Sachiniti

April 16, 2006

O.P.Nayyar…Not forgotten

Kaveetaa Kaul

We are proud to be the largest collection of O.P. Nayyar fans on the web..Welcome!

44800 views

 

opnayyar.jpg

Update: This post on O P Nayyar carries the unique distinction with the highest number of views and comments on any maestro on the web.You can listen to the podcast of my tribute in a programme dedicated to the Legendary O.P. Nayyar on PodioIndia Ep 31

 

Updated: 28th Jan07: A legend is no more.Shri O.P. Nayyar has passed away. An era has come to a close with him. None can replicate him and never will there be another Nayyar saab..May his soul rest in peace and in the knowledge that he is loved, admired, respected and will never be forgotten..

The finality of death is stark. One cannot die with the dead.. at best one can mourn for them.. Let us feel solace in the fact that he perhaps lives on in his melodies, and will continue to do so for aeons. The sadness that creeps in at such news is beyond mere words.

He suffered a cardiac arrest all of a sudden, probably still under the care of his foster family, in Thane..the destituteness of his last 12 years, when his family allegedly forsake him, a witness to the vagaries of life…sad but true.

*****************************

Who can forget the lilting, romantic numbers unforgettable renderings, which had a distinct feel, recognisable in the choice of accompaniments, the piano, sax, acoustics and then the soulful strain of melody..

*Pukarta chala hoon main.. galli galli bahaar ki..bas ek shaam zulf ki..bas ikk nigaah pyar ki

*Chain se humko kabhi aapne jeene na diya (electrifying combination of asha Bhosle and O.P)

*balma khuli hawwayein.. mehki hooyi fizaayein, dil chhahta hai mera, behekna iddhar uddhar

*Woh huns ke mile humse..hum pyar samajh baithe

*Aap yunhi agar humse milte rahe.. dekhiye ek din pyaar ho jaayega (makes you want to fall in

love all over again)

*Sawan ki ghata chhayi, yeh dekh ke dil jhooma.. lee pyar ne angdayi , deewaana hua badal. (Rafis attitude..unbeatable)

*Aap ke hassen rukh..pe aaj naya noor hai..mera dil machal gaya..toh mera kya qasoor hai

*Ishaaraon ishaaron mein dil lene wale bataa yeh hunar tune seeha kahaan se

*humdum mere maan bhi jaao kehna mere pyaar ka..

*Poochho na humme hum unke liye, kya ya nazrane laaye hai, dene ko mubarak baad unhe aankon me aansoo aayen hain”

The list is endless..I can go on and on.. singing and typing.. reliving the days of school and college competitions when many of his compositions had led me to the coveted goal.

The news that fate had dealt him a rather severe hand, chokes one with despair. Apparently, his family had forsaken him and he had to seek refuge with some kindly souls who took him in as their guest…for the last few years..as reported . The vicissitudes of life can daze even those who appear most unfazed by emotion. But the smile never left him, nor did the glow from his face. I guess this is the mettle saintliness depicts. A calm beatific demeanour, even if everything material has been lost.

My father always said “chadhte sooraj ko hi salaam hai”..Who worships the setting sun, its only the rising which is heralded.

This man a powerhouse of talent, perhaps the only Music Director of those days whose name would appear on the billboards of the films over and above the cast and crew and read something like ‘O.P.Nayyars so and so”. Today he is forgotten, unknown, to most .

In the days of yore, when his contemporaries were stalwarts who were steeped in classical training like S.D.Burman, Naushad, Jaidev, Madan Mohan, he was perhaps the only music director who could not read music and had no classical training. Imossible to believe if you hear ‘Chhota sa balma, anknhiyan neend chura le gayo” or ‘ woh hans ke mile humse’. Every nuance of the ‘harkatein’ and ‘murkiyaan’ perfectly placed. His heart spoke and he recorded music which has eventually defied time. I cannot recall any of his tunes, being unsuccessful, which is a commendable feat in itself.

His signature tune with the hoof clicks in songs like ‘Maang ke saath tumhaara‘ or ‘haule haule saajna’ from Saawan Ki ghata, was unprecedented. Use of the ‘sarangi’ was innovative ..in fact he must have been the first to embellish his songs with its soulful strains.

I remember seeing him recently on the musical show “Sa re ga ma pa” which I watch because of the high calibre of the participants, where he was accorded a standing ovation by the audience and a programme was dedicated to just his songs. His quiet dignity and poise apart from his signature white attire and hat, made him a striking picture of health and elegant calm.

Who could have imagined that after the adulation and celebration of an hour of the show, he returns to an almost monastic solitude of either a Hotel room or an adopted family !!

What is fame, then, in the final analysis. Only a fickle food on a shifting plate. A temporal recognition by those who you dont know and whose concern for you is ephemeral..If this story does not prove it, none will.

‘Fame is a vapour, popularity an accident; the only certainty is oblivion”

chal akela chal akela chal akela- tera mela peechhe chhota rahi chal akela’..is perhaps what he bids us adieu with..

Phir miloge kabhi is baat ka vaada kar lo, humse ek aur mulaqat ka vaada kar lo‘..is probably what the heart yearns to say..

instead we have to accept reality and murmur ‘ Bahut shukriya badi meherbaani’.. your songs are imcomparable and will never fail to tingle us, almost contagiously with the joy with which you have composed them!

***********************************

Sohail Rana music composer from Pakistan famed for the hauntingly melodious ghazal, one of my absolute favourites ‘ Mujhe tum nazar se gira toh rahe ho, mujhe tum kabhi bhi bhula na sakoge’...speaks emotionally of his last call to O.P Nayyar Saheb a month back..scroll down comments.

Ashwini Karandikar, his adopted daughter too has left a comment, on her life with the legend.

Ashraft through his comment has informed us of his passion for O.P.Nayyar’s music and that he has laboriously collected every single song composed by the maestro. Incredible! True passion and grit which needs to be lauded. Priceless treasure is now his !

Kaveetaa Kaul

Friends please click on the header of the video box ‘Kavees Video collection’ . It will open a page which has on its left a category ‘ O P Nayyar hits’ and lower in the Community section a contributor ‘O P Nayyar Hits(me , trying to display build another vodpod for Op ji on this page , didnt happen so inserted it as an option here )

Clicking on the category ” O.P. Nayyar Hits” will bring you to a collection of his songs, which you can listen and watch…something I do often to uplift my spirits.

 

Updated 16th Jan’09..OP Nayyar jis birthday today. Krishna Baru ji sent me a T shirt printed with OPs photograph. What better day to share it with you all.

dscn47251

dscn47232

AddThis Social Bookmark Button

44800 views

1,941 Comments »

  1. Kaveetaa,

    it is sooo sad..the industry is heartless..here today gone tomorrow.

    when i hear his songs now, I will always remember this article.

    Comment by puja — April 16, 2006 @ 3:29 pm | Reply

    • Ohhhhhhhhh the background music of violin by OP Nayar, it breaks my heart, it teached me about the defination of romantic love, I will never forget my most loving and favourite the best music composer of world, Mr OP Nayar, Can somebody please mail me or contact me in phone to let me know that, where can I purchase the background violin music of OP NAYAR in kolkata, I love and respect him like mad, his songs make me crazy to love somebody, why this great man died , we are so unlucky to born in 1970, because we missed his music in our college days, tears are falling from my eyes for his death when I am writing this mail, my email id is babai_tm@yahoo.co.in and phone number is 9163963848, 9163800244, please someone let me know where can I get his lovely romantic background music of violin, which breaks my heart and make my mood full in romance, He is the angel of romance. Rahul (kolkata)

      Comment by Rahul Banerjee — June 8, 2013 @ 12:07 pm | Reply

  2. But it is rare that he is out of the house and his family is in luxury..

    speaks a lot about the man.

    Comment by Anonymous — April 16, 2006 @ 4:23 pm | Reply

  3. God ..these songs.. I love them..I had no idea these were his!

    But then he was so much before my time.. I am only 20. Todays lot is good too.
    But his is different..clean and melodious

    Comment by Monica — April 16, 2006 @ 6:08 pm | Reply

  4. one of my absolute favourite…how many nights have i spent listening to ‘ phir wohi dil laya hoon’ and ‘ek musafir ek haseena’
    he was awesome…
    must do a post on him for sure…
    may i quote a song that he composed written by another genius
    Kaifi Azmi
    ” andhere kya ujaale kya
    na yeh apne na woh apne
    tere kaam aayenge pyaare tere armaan tere sapne
    zamana tujh pe ho barham
    na aaye rahbar mausam
    bahaarein phir bhi aati hai
    bahaarein phir bhi aayengi”

    Comment by silbil — April 17, 2006 @ 8:59 am | Reply

  5. Puja,

    why just the industry.. I think it is true of the universe in general.Nobody has time to maaintain ties ..emotions are the most useless emotion to nurture in these days of materialism..

    Anonymous.. yeah. Come to think of it. He seems to have taken on the struggle for himself. I maybe wrong but I sensed a detachment and yogic air about him. He did not the least look as if he was cursing his situation or juncture in life. Very resigned to it and witnessing it all with a calm. The smile on his face seemed to say it all.

    Monica..He was before my times too. but his music is timeless. We grew up with R.D., but I loved O.P. always. And still do. He is unmatchable and inimitable..

    Silbil,

    yes.. I loved the song you mentioned..’woh hans ke mille humse’ is also from the same film and Kaifi Azmi..The last of the mohicans..kaifi Saab.You remember ‘waqt ne kiya kya haseeen sittum’ from Kaagaz ke phool? Neither those makers. nor lyrics, nor music..Itna thehraav. Today everything has to be pulsating alive or then it is re-mixed to be so. Wonder why?

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 17, 2006 @ 11:31 am | Reply

  6. Lovely songs .. O.P.nayyar.

    Thanks kaveetaa. I think you have done hima great sevice by bringing up his story. It needed to be told. Personal live and public lives are always diverse. God does not give everybody everything. But if he is stoic about it as you have said , then he has been blessed. I just have to download more of his songs on my i-pod.

    Comment by Neha — April 17, 2006 @ 12:09 pm | Reply

  7. Thanks Neha,

    I guess the purpose of blogging is to bring out issues which merit attention. If I had turned my cheek on this one, then all the years that I have loved his tunes and loved singing them would somehow have seemed fake and hollow.

    How often is it that composers like O.P. Nayyar grace the planet? The man is almost 80 now. He needs to feel his life has been well lived.His talent well rewrded. Just doing my 2 bit.

    🙂

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 17, 2006 @ 1:49 pm | Reply

  8. nAYYAR SAHIB WAS MUSIC DIRECTOR OF MY ERA.1950-1970. Remember Dilip ji and vyjaynti mala ji film NAYA DAUR, and the song. ude jub jub zulfein teri..and old movie of GURUDUTT.mr and mrs 55. the song PREETAM AAN MILO.such was the melody now difficult to find.
    May God bless NAYYAR DA WITH LONG ,AND HEALTHY LIFE.

    Comment by rahim chundrigar — August 5, 2006 @ 5:58 am | Reply

  9. Ji rahim saab..He deserves a lot more from our generation as well. Legends such as him are hard to come by. His name is synonymous with melody and will remain so. I love that song from naya daur I think.. “maang ke saath tumhaara maine maang liya sansaar”..I was not born then I think.yet it struck a chord.. there is something timeless about his melodies.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — August 5, 2006 @ 12:30 pm | Reply

  10. a nice post about op nayyar. didnt know much about him, but what i read here was admirable!

    Comment by tarini — September 13, 2006 @ 12:43 am | Reply

  11. Thanks Tarini. He is a legend. They dont make it like ’em anymore..RD burman, Sd burman, OP Nayyar, Madan Mohan..These geniuses relied on nothing but melody..Accompaniments enhanced, maybe a sarangi here and a sitar there..but it was not as if acoustics were the pillar of the song..They need to be remembered time and again or else will be forgotten underneath the noise of re-mixes.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — September 13, 2006 @ 7:30 pm | Reply

    • Hi !

      I am on of the fan of Late O.P.Nayyar sahab, I have almost total songs of Nayyar sashab but I have few of his film’s song is not with me like Film ‘Do Ustad’ Mr. Lamboo, Mujrim.

      If u have reply me.

      Jamshed
      09820592162
      Mumbai

      Comment by Jamshed Khan — January 13, 2010 @ 3:11 pm | Reply

  12. Folks

    Here is a mesage from someone who is writing a biography on OPN called “OP NAYYAR – When Rhythm Was King”. The book is about 40% done and I have two publishers already interested.
    Apart from my love for this great man, this will also prove that music has no boundaries. I am from Pakistan.

    I have been his fan since I was 4 ( am now 54). I live in Boston but we are in regular touch. My database has even those songs which he has forgotten he has composed. We sometimes sing on the phone together. We first met in Dubai in June 1995 during OP Nayyar Nite.

    Listen to

    Thandi thandi hawa, mujhe unka pata (Asha/Geeta)

    Chal Akela tera mela peeche choota ( Mukesh)

    Aao huzoor tumko sitaron mein le chaloon ( Asha)

    Akeli Hoon Mein Piya Aa ( Asha in Sambandh)

    Phir Miloge Kabhi Is Baat ka Vaada( Asha/Rafi)

    Hoon Abhi Mein Jawaan Ae Dil ( Geeta Dutt)

    Ae Dil Ae Deewane ( Asha in Baaz 1952)

    Hear out Ja ja ja ja bewafa from Aar Paar to go with Chein se hamko kabhi, the Asha classic.

    OP Nayyar was a legend – big time.

    Cheers,

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — October 22, 2006 @ 6:48 pm | Reply

  13. Absolutely Siraj..they.. dont make legends like these any more..each song a masterpiece. All the ones u have mentioned..especialy Phir miloge kabhi. did u mean you talk to him regularly?? if so please let him know there are a host of people who love and respect him. This post gets the maximum hits..each day from those who google for him to prove that even in this age of noise from Reshamiyas it is he who is being remembered..melody outlasts all..even the sands of time.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — October 24, 2006 @ 3:52 pm | Reply

  14. op nayyar was a great music director.hats off to him.

    Comment by nishant — December 6, 2006 @ 4:24 pm | Reply

  15. O P Nayyar is a great composer and I would say he is the God’s gift to our music. It is very sad that very juniors like A R Rehman and others already been conferred with awards like “Padmashree” and O P N was ignored always. It is high time and he should be awarded with this year’s “Dada Saheb Phalke Award” for his outstanding contribution to Music world.

    Comment by G N Murty — December 9, 2006 @ 8:06 pm | Reply

  16. Great thought Mr. Murthy..he veritably deserves the ‘Dadasaheb Phalke’ award..but all said and done, irrespective of Governmental acknowledgements, his music is such that it will outive maybe even us and our generation, leave alone his own..wherefore the need for awards! This is his greatest achievement and his greatest reward a place in all music lovers’ hearts.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 12, 2006 @ 3:14 pm | Reply

  17. I have no words to express my feelings about this greatest music composer(according to me he is the best) and am a great obscessed fan of O.P. Nayyar.
    Whenever I listen to his songs it takes me back to my golden days of my child hood which I enjoy and relish.
    I pray that this great Music composer comes back once again and gives us lot of music for us to enjoy.
    May god gives him good life.

    Comment by Prabhakar — January 6, 2007 @ 11:10 am | Reply

  18. Not a single song composed by him has been plagiarised or lifted..despite other music directors even then being ‘inspired” from other melodies. He was original, unique and one of his kind..the world will ever see another O.P. Nayyar.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 6, 2007 @ 11:32 am | Reply

  19. A legend,great composer,no one can forget mr. nayyar.

    Comment by RAJNEESH — January 13, 2007 @ 8:52 pm | Reply

  20. tumasa nahi dekha… sanjeev, 28 jan 2007

    Comment by Anonymous — January 28, 2007 @ 5:14 pm | Reply

  21. How true Sanjeev..

    Tumsa nahin dekha Nayyar Saheb..

    May your soul rest in peace..

    Om

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 28, 2007 @ 5:42 pm | Reply

  22. […] Full story […]

    Pingback by Asnee: The web through my eyes » O.P.Nayyar…Not forgotten — January 28, 2007 @ 7:35 pm | Reply

  23. Aaj ki jhooti khabar-“sangeet ke sartaj OP Nayyar nahin rahe”…OP Nayyar kabhi nahin mar sakte…..jab tak duniya main sangeet hai,OP Nayyar zinda rahenge….Nayyar Sahib, please mera salaam kabul karain….Virendra Batra

    Comment by Virendra Batra — January 28, 2007 @ 10:46 pm | Reply

  24. Great Post thanks for sharing.!!

    THE BEST OF OP NAYYAR
    Aana hai to aa – Naya Daur/Rafi
    Chal akela chal akela – Sambandh/Mukesh
    Deewana hua baadal – Kashmir Ki Kali/Rafi-Asha
    Dekho bijli dole – Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon/Asha Bhosle-Usha Mangeshkar
    Dil ki awaaz bhi sun – Humsaya/Rafi
    Mera naam chin chin chu – Howrah Bridge/Geeta Dutt
    Mere neendon mein tum – Naya Andaz/Kishore-Shamshad Begum
    Savere ka suraj – Ek Baar Muskura Do/Kishore
    Tu auron ki kyoon – Ek Baar Muskara Do/Kishore
    Tu hai mera prem devata – Kalpana/Rafi-Manna Dey
    Tukde hai mere dil ke – Mere Sanam/Rafi
    Yehi woh jagah hai – Yeh Raat Phir Na Aayegi/Asha

    Comment by sur — January 29, 2007 @ 1:26 am | Reply

  25. He may be physically left us, he still in our hearts.

    Comment by VENKATAKRISHNA NALAMOTHU — January 29, 2007 @ 8:23 am | Reply

  26. His life reminds me of Pyasa’s meaningful song Is Ko hi Jeena kehta hain tho” & Nayyar’s own “Lakhon Hain Yahan Dilwale, Aur Pyar Nahi Milta” from kismat

    Comment by Karthik — January 29, 2007 @ 9:36 am | Reply

  27. This legend lives in our heart forever

    Comment by Nishant — January 29, 2007 @ 12:05 pm | Reply

  28. respected sir ,
    i will never ever forget you .you are simply incomparable.
    i have always learnt a lot from you to stay simple but still unique .
    i really feel bad that OP NAYYAR SAHAB is not with us and i didn’t get chance to meet such a wonderful human being …
    i just want to know why such a big celebrity didn’t lived with his family and why he lived such a hard life and being not with the family for last 12 years .
    shradhanjali..
    Malhotra Family

    Comment by mrs.pinki malhotra — January 29, 2007 @ 8:35 pm | Reply

  29. respected sir ,
    i will never ever forget you .you are simply incomparable.
    i have always learnt a lot from you to stay simple but still unique .
    i really feel bad that OP NAYYAR SAHAB is not with us and i didn’t get chance to meet such a wonderful human being …
    i just want to know why such a big celebrity didn’t lived with his family and why he lived such a hard life and being not with the family for last 12 years

    Comment by mrs.pinki malhotra — January 29, 2007 @ 8:39 pm | Reply

  30. O.P.Nayyar saab has left us but the indelible impress left behind in the music industry is unfathomable. OP once upon a time was synonymous with Rafi and Asha duets. What a magic he had woven! A sad and morose atmosphere used to get totally enlivened by his tunes. The lilting music and foot tapping numbers with a Punjabi flavour! Great! My favourites though are:
    Chota sa baalma…Ragini; Wo hanske mile humse..Baharen phir bhi ayengi; Jaan sake to jaan … Ustad; Surma mera nirala …Kabhi andhera kabhi ujala; Thandi hawa kali ghata..Mr.&Mrs.55; Pyaar par bas to nahin mera lekin phir bhi…Sone ki chidiya…the list is endless. OP had lived a full life on his terms. Adieu, friend, my prayer is “May your tribe increase.”

    Comment by Balan V.Iyer — January 29, 2007 @ 10:06 pm | Reply

  31. Greatest of the great. If one has to take percentage of hits vs composed, I am sure his numbers would top the list. They were either tear jerkers or foot tapping numbers in a very effective – Melodious and serene.
    His numbers “Yehi woh jagah hai, Yehi woh ghata hai hai” – Asha
    Hai Duniya usi ke, Zamana usi ka…. Barbaat hona jiski ada ho, darde dil jiski dawa ho, sataaye ga gham kya use zindagi ka / Banda parwar – RAFI
    List goes on. May his soul rest in peace !

    Comment by Harvinder — January 29, 2007 @ 11:09 pm | Reply

  32. Sohail Rana Sahab pays tributes to O.P. Nayyar Sahab below:

    After a chase of almost twenty years, I was able to get contact of O.P. Nayyar Sahab. The giant of a composer and king of rhythms as he was known all over. I had the honor of speaking with him on phone almost a month back and then there were three more phone calls that I made, the calls always lasted more then forty-five minutes.

    While I was talking to him about the memorable songs that he had composed from the film ‘Aasmaan,’ onwards, he would interrupt me and like a gentleman, like a mentor, and like a guru he would start praising me instead.

    He even hummed and sang my song, ‘Mujhay tum nazar say gira to rahay ho.’ He said that when he heard this song he had a natural desire to meet me. I felt highly elated. O.P. Nayyar Sahab gave Aasha jee, Geeta Dutt jee, Shamshad Begum and Rafi Sahab a style no other composer gave to them. His music was unique and outstanding. He was gem of a person, very loving, very caring and very outspoken.

    He actually commanded me to stay as his personal guest when I visit Bombay, which I was planning very soon. Raju is a very lovely girl who had been serving him like a daughter and took care of him twenty-four hours. This morning his soul has suddenly parted. The whole film industry, Shammi Kapoor jee, Lata jee, Aasha jee, all composers and even the Prime Minister of India has sent condolences over his sad demise.

    Tonight, I rang up Bombay and spoke with Raju. She was in tears, sobbing and crying and explaining,”Baba, what shall I do without you.” She then narrated to me how he collapsed and died on the spot. He was eighty-one years of age all right but he was not suffering from any fatal disease.

    O.P.Nayyar jee, as a music composer, according to him, died thirty-five years back. He was as a person very much living and enjoying good health. He died peacefully.

    Ah! Nayyar jee, Aap nay hamara intizaar naheen kiya. Siraj Khan, mein aur Afshan jee to Aap say milnay Aa rahay thay. Your sudden death is a blow to the whole film industry, the entire musical world, Raju, Siraj, Afshan jee and myself. You have gone away but your music will keep you alive and no one can ever forget you.

    Tumhain hum kabhi bhi bhula na sakein gey.

    May God bless your soul,dear O.P.Nayyar jee.

    Your well- wisher/your friend/your admirer

    Sohail Rana
    (Music Composer from Pakistan)

    Toronto,Canada.

    Comment by Sohail Rana — January 30, 2007 @ 8:30 am | Reply

  33. I agree with all the comments on OPN. Those of us who are 50 plus grew up listening to such legends. A void that cannot be filled up. Hindi film music suffered two quick blows – Naushad saab and OPN left us in quick sucession. How many composers have been so much mourned as OPN, even when he did not seriously compose music for the last 30 years!

    Comment by R.V.EASWAR — January 30, 2007 @ 10:18 am | Reply

  34. Yes, the legend is no more. Omkar Prasad Nayyar is not amongst us. Incidentally, it is not more than a fortnight since he celebrated his birthday. The octogenarian genius left us leaving us a repository of his compositions for us to devour.

    He started his career in an era where there was an oasis of composers who used all repertoires in giving the best, the likes of Madan Mohan, Naushan, Shankar Jaikishan, Roshan, S.D. Burman etc. It would be befitting to say that he was a genius as he never was classically trained composer. He strongly believed in his instincts and ingenuity in delivering best of compositions by carving his own niche. As clearly mentioned by the writer that during his hey-days, he was a much sought after composer despite an astronomical price of more than Rs 100,000 for a film he charged.

    From a humble beginning from the lands of Punjab, he was born in pre-independence India and reached to his pinnacle due to tenacity and assiduous faith in his work. Incidentally, he politely refused the invitation across the Wagah border, as he was very much nostalgic in visiting Pakistan. His compositions clearly epitomized his love for his land with the mixture of pure folk and western. In this era, that is marked with re-mixes and deafening sound that is termed as music, the younger generations are deprived and denied access to these kind of musicians who never compromising in its lyrics, rhythm or melody

    It was painful to read that he was away from his immediate family and categorically stated they not allowed participation in his funeral. What an end to a man, whose had to live his last moments in some others captivity and mercies, when his own have showed him the way out. Only Sharad Pawar paid his condolence and the film fraternity was missing.

    It is ironic, that we the people or the governments fail to recognize the talent of people who have contributed enormously in their respectively fields. Glowing rich tributes and awards conferred to them posthumously. On what count does this matter when the person who breathed and lived music, is unable to experience the reward of his hardcore labour even during his twilight. Only prayers remains that his soul remains in peace forever.

    Comment by Yasmin Banu — January 30, 2007 @ 1:12 pm | Reply

  35. Thanks Sur..And your selection was great.Infact I think one can hardly ever go wrong as far as his exquisite pieces of melody is concerned..universally loved and soul stirring.

    Venkatkrishna, there is no dout as to the love we hold for him in our hearts.

    Kartik..absolutely..on the dot.

    Nishant..his philanthrpy in the last decade or so, when he distributed homeopathic pills free of cost to all n sundry goes to prove that here was someone who had captured the essence of ‘living’ in the right sense of the term..truly a legend in more ways than one.

    Pinki.. I guess what is finally true is ‘ kabhi kisiko muqammal jahaan nahin milta.. kahin zameen toh kaheen aasmaaan nahin milta’.

    Balan.. ohh those strains..’pyar par bas toh nahin hain’..gives one goose pimples.. ‘chhota sa balma ‘ a classical based composition which apparently he had not been trained in. But I guess, its not just about this lifetime.. is it? He was born to be a maestro to defy time and generations. He was truly
    incomparable , unique.. men like him walk this earth but once in a away.

    Harvinder.. your list is so wonderful.. like you said , the proportion is mind boggling.. Each song hit a bulls eye. I wonder if one can get a compilation of his songs somewhere.. and make a tribute to him.. or there is the danger that the coming generation will be ebereft of his music..sadly. As indians we are deserving of knowing the talent of our Great masters, or inthis time of re-mixes and noise.. his will get lost in oblivion.. I fear that sometimes.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 30, 2007 @ 2:41 pm | Reply

  36. Sohail Rana Saheb,

    You are indeed blessed that you were able to establish contact with him. One can write paeans on him as a musician and as a human being par excellence. I had written part of this post last April, in the hope that he gets to know how truly admired, respected and remembered he is the world over and even today despite the fact , like you mentioned that he has not composed for 35 years. But if music be a ‘crie de coeur’ then its no wonder that it has left an indelible mark in our hearts.

    In the last couple of days since his demise, the need to know about this legend is so strong that this post has received over a thousand hits..this apart from the fact that ever since its posting, there have been regular hits, everyday from music lovers wanting to know more of him. This explains all and is self evident of the phenomenon that music of his kind is created almost like a prayer from the divine to fill our being with bliss.

    One can spend a lifetime savouring his songs bit by bit, and revel in the inner joy they elicit.

    I would also take this opportunity to mention Sir, that your composition is as hauntingly melodious, soul stirring.. Thank You.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 30, 2007 @ 2:53 pm | Reply

  37. Hey I read all the feelings expressed above and would like to thank all.Indeed Baba will live on.Rani/Raju, my dear sister, is very blessed that she was able to serve Baba till the end.I would like to clarify that he was happy till the end and he was never alone.The way Rani served him is commendable indeed.But he was not without family.We are his family,he was our Baba.Rani and myself are his daughters and Shailesh dada is his son.He had composed a song for me-“sach kahoon sach kahoon sach kahoon sach,My princess, I love you very very much”.He always called me his princess and I called him “King”.

    Comment by Ashwini Karandikar — January 30, 2007 @ 3:39 pm | Reply

  38. Hi Ashwini,

    You and your family and sister Raju are indeed lucky to have been blessed with the opportunity to serve The Legendary Nayyar Saheb.. We as an audience are not privy to the details of his last years, except what the media has brought to the fore. Your revelations of your sisters unswerving devotion and love for her ‘Baba’ point clearly to a previous life connection..’tera mujhse hai pehle ka naata koi, yunhi nahin dil lubhaata koi’..If anything the glow on his face, in the snap above and the calmness of his demanour are proof of the fact that he was at peace totally and that Ashwini, Rani and Shailesh are individuals who are deserved of praise and appreciation. Its often said that we invite in our life what we are internally constituted of. Our inner world is a reflection of our outer life. You all were love incarnate and therfore received his love..

    P.s.if you like you can send me a snap of you all with him. I can post it here.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 30, 2007 @ 3:58 pm | Reply

  39. From today the words like MUSIC, SANGEET, MELODY, SUR all seem a bit fade and dull to me. I have a very busy life but still spend the whole Saturday morning listening to my favourite musics in a way to pay silent tribute to all those great composers,lyricists and singers. My wife becomes very surprised and speechless when she notices tears in my eyes everytime i listen to these songs and I can’t explain her how it feels when I listen to-
    Tukde hain mere dilke*Pukarta chala hoon mein*Dilki awaz bhi sun*Aapke haasin rukhpe*Tum jo huye mere humsafar*Hain duniya usiki and many more. After my father’s death last month (he had a sudden cardiac arrest just like OP Nayyar saheb), these songs were the only corner where i could get a shelter in my own solitude. Now after Naushad saheb I’ve lost Nayyar saheb and I feel very sad that i couldn’t get a chance in this life time to see these maestroes and tell them ‘The GOD must have created me and my parents brought me up. But you are the ones who helped me to know who I truely am.’

    Comment by Abed — January 30, 2007 @ 4:05 pm | Reply

  40. Thanks for the comment Yasmin Banu. yes sad but true . The worth of an individual and his contribution is sometimes not recognised as much in his lifetime as it is posthumously. In the case of Nayyar saheb, however, I think that it was his decision to quit from active social life and the industry. Ofcourse that itself can be attributed to changing trends of music. The fact that so many years later we ae still reminiscing the golden days of his musical era, is testimony of his talent.

    People remember his compositions today, amply clear even from the comments on this post than of any other today’s music Director. Its stupendous..this achievement. He sometimes composed songs for only one film a year , intentionally. The trend presently is to rake in the moolah, quality be damned. Any wonder then that time will testify finally who will outlast all!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 30, 2007 @ 7:54 pm | Reply

  41. Strange are the ways of the movie industry. When a great personality of the past dies, people call it a great loss but in between there’s not even an iota of talk about them.The same thing happened to O.P Nayyarji. I have been a great fan of O.P Nayyar Sahab but despite a strong desire I couldn’t ever see him on any TV Channel giving an interview sharing his experiences with myriads of his fans like me. From the net I came to know about his bohemian life style. But people from the world of art are like that. The lifestyle is the manure for their artistic growth. Though it is painful for the family at times but these beings belong to the entire world, can’t be held as captive material. O.P Nayyarji was one of them perhaps. He has soothed the world with his wonderful music.Though he seems to physically no more but he will live in the minds of his fans for ever
    May his soul be at peace for ever.
    -Rajkumar Sharma

    Comment by Rajkumar Sharma — January 30, 2007 @ 8:40 pm | Reply

  42. As Music Director
    Jai Bhavani (2000)
    Zid (1994)
    Nishchaiy (1992)
    Bin Maa Ke Bachchey (1980)
    Heera Moti (1979)
    Khoon Ka Badla Khoon (1978)
    Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye (1974)
    Taxi Driver (1973)
    Aisa Bhi Hota Hai (1971)
    Killers (1969)
    Sambandh (1969)
    Dil Aur Muhabbat (1968)
    Humsaya (1968)
    Kahin Din Kahin Raat (1968)
    Kismet (1968)
    Shrimanji (1968)
    C.I.D. 909 (1967)
    Nasihat (1967)
    Akalmand (1966)
    Do Dilon Ki Dastan (1966)
    Baharen Phir Bhi Ayengi (1966)
    Love And Murder (1966)
    Mohabbat Zindagi Hai (1966)
    Sawan Ki Ghata (1966)
    Yeh Raat Phir Na Ayegi (1966)
    Mere Sanam (1965)
    Kashmir Ki Kali (1964)
    Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon (1963)
    Ek Musafir Ek Hasina (1962)
    Hong Kong (1962)
    Basant (1960)
    Jaali Note (1960)
    Kalpana (1960)
    Mitti Men Sona (1960)
    Do Ustad (1959)
    Farishta (1958)
    HOwrah Bridge (1958)
    Kabhi Andhera Kabhi Ujala (1958)
    Mr. Qatoon M.A. (1958)
    Mujrim (1958)
    Phagun (1958)
    Raagini (1958)
    Sone Ki Chidiya (1958)
    12 O\’clock (1958)
    Mai Baap (1957)
    Naya Daur (1957)
    Qaidi (1957)
    Tumsa Nahin Dekha (1957)
    Ustad (1957)
    Bade Sarkar (1957)
    Duniya Rang Rangili (1957)
    Johnny Walker (1957)
    Bhagambhag (1956)
    C.I.D. (1956)
    Choomantar (1956)
    Dhake Ki Malmal (1956)
    Hum Sab Chor Hain (1956)
    Mr. Lambu (1956)
    Naya Andaz (1956)
    Baap Re Baap (1955)
    Milap (1955)
    Miss Coca Cola (1955)
    Mr. & Mrs. 55 (1955)
    Musafirkhana (1955)
    Sabse Bada Rupaiya (1955)
    Mangu (1954)
    Mehbooba (1954)
    Aar Paar (1954)
    Baaz (1953)
    Aasman (1952)
    Cham Chhama Chham (1952)

    Comment by Ravi — January 30, 2007 @ 11:20 pm | Reply

  43. I was shocked to hear OP Nayyar has passed away – those wonderful melodies – I watched Nischay only because of the music. Yes, I agree, OP Nayyar was God’s gift to us starved for good music. His melodies will never fade away.

    On another note, I have read some posts here that mention his family lives in luxury, they have forsaken him etc. I cannot keep quiet as I have first hand witnessed the kindness and culture of the Nayyar family. As a child growing up in the same neighbourhood of the Nayyar family in Bombay, I would like to mention what I witnessed. We used to always be at the Nayyar home because his children and wife were extremely friendly, caring people and welcomed all into their home. OP Nayyar was not staying with them – he had chosen to stay with someone else. However, he made sure his family was terrified of him and his anger. Genius is eccentric. Everyone knew when he was visiting as the entire family’s personalities would undergo a change and they would be extra careful not to anger him. He left no stone unturned to humiliate his own children and very dignified wife. His wife tolerated him for the sake of the children. When they grew up – they rebelled against his ways. Eventually came a time when they could take the humiliation no more, and so his wife and children chose to continue their lives without Nayyarji. Unfortunately, we always choose to listen to those who speak out first. His family is extremely dignified and committed to philanthropy without washing dirty linen in public, which is why the general impression is that they forsake him. I just wished to put that record straight.

    That having been said, let me reiterate, Nayyar Saab was a genius and there shall never be another.

    Comment by anu sen — January 31, 2007 @ 12:22 am | Reply

    • you may be right. In life it is always a matter of compatability and how you get along with others. My friend Sultan Arshad was posted as Pakistan International Airlines regional officer in Bombay for some years in the 90s and Nayyar sahab lived their family for some years. Sultan Arshad is a great music lover and presently incharge of Music in a local TV channel. He was very friendly with all film personalities and requested Nayyar sahab to live with his family as its head.
      Perhaps people are not aware of his great quality of charity. Acc. to Arshad, OP would give anything and everything he had to someone in need.
      OP wanted to do an album with Nayyar Noor (One of Pakistan’s top ghazal singer). Arshad jokingly told OP that the album should be titled ‘FROM NAYYAR TO NAYYARA’.
      As a young child in the 50s I was always attracted to the enchanting melodies of Nayyar sahab . We all have our faults. The overall personality is what counts and on that level he was on the top bracket.God bless him.
      His family should ‘let go’ OP Nayyar now that he is no more with us.
      Muhammad Rafi
      Karachi

      Comment by Rafi — May 2, 2009 @ 12:23 pm | Reply

      • Welcome Rafi and thanks a ton for the lovely and insightful comment. It is amazing just how many lives OPn touched directly and indirectly through his genius and through his personality. Sultan Arshad must be truly a lover of music, Do request him to visit us here. We would be really eager to hear of OP ji from him.

        When hearts meet through the commonalty of a melodious bond, borders get to be redundant. So nice to hear from you. Do come often.

        Regards
        Kaveetaa

        Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — May 4, 2009 @ 7:07 pm | Reply

  44. Thank you very much Abid Ji, for sharing some of my very own views. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon him. This Shakespearean’s Quote is synonymous with our late O.P Nayyar Sahab.

    Being born as a South Indian Muslim, very much away from the active Hindi music as only Tamil was the regional language. Albeit, from my childhood days, I vividly reminiscent late night geethmala playing the soulful music. Though unable to understand the lyrics or the names of composers, the compositions embedded in my subconscious mind. As days and years passed by, when I moved to a land where Hindi / Urdu music is very much active and alive, I was very much happy integrating to the musical stores that catered to my requirements.

    Subjectively, Madan Mohan Ji,, S.D. Burman Ji, Naushad Sahab, Roshan Ji, O.P. Nayyar Sahab works with lyrics of Rajinder Krishnan, Sahir Ludhanvi, Raja Mehdi Ali, Kaifi Aazmi, the renditions of Mohd Rafi Sahab, Lata ji, Talat Mehmood Ji, Hemant Kumar Ji, were always living with me. The vicissitudes of life has a strong storyline for every individual, but the reality is we have to face them defying the odds of life. What is loneliness, why do people say that they are alone? Even in a crowd, we can feel loneliness. Probably, these great would have never understood the impact of their work, their contributions in instilment of confidence, serenity and solace in our solitude. Unfortunately, these things are inexplicable how they have made an indelible mark in our way of life.

    When I read about the great Madan Mohan Sahab despondent, as his works remained unacknowledged and gradually ended up in inebriation. He died with sorrow and anguish was intolerable to read. The road that leads to our crematory is very grave. Last year, when we lost Naushad Sahab, it was very painful, but again losing O.P. Nayyar Sahab it is excruciating.

    I like to shower my heartfelt thanks and gratitude for the people who gave happiness and sense of belonging to this humble legend. Probably, he never realized that he belonged to the world, and will always remain the property of music lovers and soul searchers who live with his works. May his work pursue as a source of inspiration to aspirations who genuinely believe in the spirit of love, giving and caring.

    Comment by Yasmin Banu — January 31, 2007 @ 1:20 pm | Reply

  45. I have grown listening to his songs.Almost all the songs have a special meaning in my life.I can relate to each one. Everytime I happen to listen to a number its as if my youth just re appears before my eyes. I cannot think of the present lot having this kind of magic over us.Its almost half a decade ago that he began his creer and yet his songs are timeless. It is extemely unfortunate that for whatever reason he had to spend his last years away from his home, even though the media has shown the new family to be affectioate, yet it could not have been without heartbreak. He had forbidden his immediate near and dear ones from not attending his funeral as all the channels have reported, and they also did not bother to attend it means that it was unfortunate..no blames but facts are facts….simply so.

    Comment by Krishnan — January 31, 2007 @ 1:25 pm | Reply

  46. well its sad to loose someone who has done so much for the whole of the asian community i always listen at least one song on the radio of op Nayyar so every day he’ll be remembered

    Comment by chhaya from e london — January 31, 2007 @ 3:56 pm | Reply

  47. hey guys.Believe me its so comforting to know that his music will live on. The present generation below 20’s are quite clueless about his music..its a pity.they live in a world of plagiarized music and have numbed themselves to accept it as a foregone conclusion. OP Saheb set a trend for others to follow. His originality one could swear by.

    Abed that was a touching post.

    Yasmin..nice response. So touching. btw It was me who had commented on your earlier post.

    chhaya..great.

    Raj kumar..I know what you mean. But true stalwarts are less addicted to worldly praise and content in their world.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 31, 2007 @ 11:23 pm | Reply

  48. I have been his greatest fan for years and we were good friends extraordinary. Once I mentioned why he never used Mukesh in his compositions and he promised to make him sing when the next opportunity arrived.This happened very soon and the result was a duet with Asha in Miss Coca Cola. He was a thorough gentleman. He talked many secrets when I was with him in Bombay.
    There will never be likes of him. His music will live for ever.

    Comment by M Parmar — January 31, 2007 @ 11:28 pm | Reply

  49. Anu sen..thanks for the information.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 1, 2007 @ 10:12 am | Reply

  50. Savera ka Sooraj Thumhare Liye hai
    Bairagya se rahe OPN, Bairagi hamahe chod kaar chale gaye.

    Comment by gajanan — February 1, 2007 @ 10:37 am | Reply

  51. Can anybody post the tribute to OPN , if any, given by Asha Bhonsle? It would be really very disrespectful if she has kept mum over the passing away of OPN, under whose baton Asha gave some of the all time great songs. Raato Ko Chori Chori Bole Mera Kangana…. this slow paced song , with interludes of the Spanish Guitar ( please correct me if am wrong) has a spell bounding effect , even now.

    Comment by gajanan — February 1, 2007 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  52. since there are so many here who admire Op nayyar perhaps there can be a forum which speaks on how does his music be kept alive. There are chances that it might soon get lost. Youngsters even today have not much heard of him. Even if they have his songs which we are so fondly rmembering have not been heard by them..how does one then keep it alive?

    Comment by Krishnan — February 1, 2007 @ 3:04 pm | Reply

  53. Prepare a web site for OP Nayyar by collecting funds and load all his songs , I mean all into it as an audio as well as video ( the song clippings from films). Interview the stars who have sung it if they are alive and then post that as an audio and video. It will take time and money , but persons who were close to him can do this and start a web trust initially, so that it can be translated into a web site , with all the songs as mentioned ( audio and video) , with all the trademark dresses of OPN as pictures and you can also load pictures down memory lane of OPN. Well, the web is there , where else can you pay a tribute , but the web, whichs transcends borders.

    Comment by gajanan — February 2, 2007 @ 7:39 am | Reply

  54. It indeed is a great loss. But I can say that I have had him in my heart and in my music library for decades. Anu Sen has thrown some wonderful light on his personal life and I am sure his children missed a loving, caring father while growing up. It is so sad and excruciating that a Genius like him who gave so much to the world in terms of music was not able to give enough love to his own blood!!!! What a waste!!!! Whether you live in the 12th Century or 21st Century, NOTHING gives you the right to be unfaithful to your spouse and family.
    No doubt that his music was uncomparable and the number after numbers he recorded in the Golden Sixties are alive even today…. My God give peace to his soul!!!

    Comment by Pankaj — February 2, 2007 @ 1:26 pm | Reply

  55. Hi Anu,
    I read your post.I would like to get in touch with you.

    To all the other fans I am really thankful for all the kind words but Baba has gone and I would like to request all to let bygones be bygones not because the pain will disappear but because we cannot do anything about it.I know baba since 1994 but what happenened before that is something that none of us will ever know and since it was his personal life, lets not get into it.I am sure that his family must also be in pain but its their decision and we must respect everyone.

    As for Ashabai not commenting etc,it is again her personal decision.We donot know what transpired between Baba and her so we should neither expect nor comment on what is right and wrong.

    Let us only remember that they made a wonderful team and have given us some beautiful music which will live on for years and years.

    Comment by Ashwini Karandikar — February 3, 2007 @ 10:00 am | Reply

  56. Pankaj
    I agree with you but it seems that all geniuses have this problem.I can understand coz I have myself been through such pain.
    I would still request that lets not get into personal lives coz Baba has gone but his family can still get hurt.
    Yes, I, his daughter am saying this and requesting you all to remember his music and leave the rest unless you can do something about it.

    Comment by Ashwini Karandikar — February 3, 2007 @ 10:06 am | Reply

  57. Op nayyar is public property.his memory is at least. he will be loved always. But why is Ashwini karandikar ordering us around??? she is very bossy… who is she? her role in his life is not our problem.She is asking us not to get into his personal life but is doing that only. Look at her last line..”yes I his daughter”..thats not personal what? and she was not his real daughter also. She is talking here only from personal relationship..She should be grateful not hoity toity.sorry if i have hurt her. But truth is truth.

    but Op nayyar cannever be forgotten I dont care about anything else.

    Comment by raja harishchandra — February 3, 2007 @ 3:02 pm | Reply

  58. You all did sing for him many times –not without a cause:

    What cause withholds you, then, not to mourn for him?

    O judgement, thou art fled to myopic heights

    And men and women have lost their reason! –Bear with me;

    My heart is with his music, there with his records,

    And I must pause till it is replayed to me

    ( This is a modified , (changed specially for Nayyar Sahab) version of Mark Anthony’s famous speech on the funeral of Julius Caesar. Just like Shakespeare’s prose , Nayyar’s spontaneous music will last forever)

    Comment by gajanan — February 3, 2007 @ 3:25 pm | Reply

  59. kaanon se utri hai dil mein..op nayyar ki mausiqui..Woh hamesha rahenge hamare dil mein, aur hindustan ki mausiqui mein.

    Comment by Irfan khan — February 3, 2007 @ 6:41 pm | Reply

  60. I kind of worshipped OP since the time I was a primary school student in third grade in NWFP ( Pakistan). It was 1957. Although I was born in a pushto speaking area with it’s own folk music, O P Nayyar’s music opened the door for me to the glories of Indian film music. Probably, UDEE JAB JAB ZULFAIN TAREE and RESHMI SHILWAR KURTA JHALI KAA were the fist ever urdu songs that converted my mind and soul to indian film music. Subsequently, there were so many wonderful songs that followed till the time of Nischaiy. I would always love each and every song of a film when music was composed by OP NAYYAR,which I didn’t know at that time. Later ,sometime in the early sixties , I realized that it were op nayyar’s tunes which would always touch my soul and spirits..While listening to the Radio , i would always be waiting for songs from O P’s compostions. After a lapse of 4 years, he came back with a bang in 1964 with Phir Wahi Dil Laya Hoon. I still remember Radio Ceylon Commercial, probably, by Ameen Siyani as saying , ” PHIR WAHEE O P NAYYAR in PHIR WAHEE DIL LAYA HOON. I became so obsessed with his music that I started collecting each and every song compsed by him throughout his carear . Luckily, I managed to collect every film song that he ever composed. And it is a treasure of my life. To achieve this I had to scan each and every market of paksitan, inculding RainBow Centre Karachi, to collect vidoes and audios of those wonderful films–music composed by O P.. In this connection I met some wonderful people who loved Indian Film music like me. Mushtaq Abdullah ( who ran a recoding company at karachi ) helped me a lot in finding some otherwise unavailable songs.
    O P Nayyar’s music is so different and unique from all other composers. It kind of travels in one’s soul—and makes one’s body to move with rythem. His tunes and use of instruments are unparallel. A true King Of Rythem. I cannot imagine any other composer of using and mixing eastern instrument, specially SARANGI with westren music in a better way than O P NAYYAR.
    O P Nayyar sahib is no more with us but he will always live in the hearts of millions till music is played and listened.. May God Bless his soul

    Comment by Ashraft — February 5, 2007 @ 1:15 pm | Reply

  61. @ Gajanan, what you suggest is a great idea..about the website. perhaps we should work on implementing it somehow. .It does seem a possibility and within reach if enough like minded can come together.

    Loved the Shakespeare inspired lines… heart felt.

    @Ashraft,This is remarkable. You actually are in possession of every single song composed by him? It needs to be applauded and highlighted. I will update this information on the post.

    Congrats for being the keeper of the treasure.. God Bless!!

    P.S…in fact this gets us one step closer to the above mentioned idea of a website as mentioned to Gajanan.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 5, 2007 @ 1:29 pm | Reply

  62. I was petrified and moved when I saw the news on NDTV about the unfortunate death of Nayyar Saheb I am an ardent fan of OPN I really wonder Y the almighty did not give a chance to me for serving him when his own blood neglected. I am employed in Muscat and last week there was a programme where M/s Asha Bhonsle had paticipated in the Muscat Festival. As OPN is totally responsible for Asha Didi career its moving that she had not mentioned a word of praise for OPN. How soon people forget the goodness of a human being, during his last days he had to take shelter in a friend’s house and died a orphan’s death. No human being will forgive Nayyar Saheb’s Children who had betrayed him. Even if he his at fault as a human being they should have forgiven him as he had brought them to this world and served him. His name will live as long as the Music World lives. May God bless his Soul.
    G Sunder Rajan
    Muscat
    5th Feb 2007 17.40 hours

    Comment by Gopal Sunder Rajan — February 5, 2007 @ 7:00 pm | Reply

  63. There are some in the film world , who have mourned OPN’s death. You should contact them
    In this web site , the names are given.
    http://www.apunkachoice.com/happenings/20070129-0.html

    One feels that Tabassum and Sonu Nigam may come forward to help you get funds to set up the web site. I am not sure , but it is a educated guess from the feelings expressed by them in the above web site. The first step is to find the cost of putting up such a web site and maintaining it. Thane is the best place for this as OPN breathed his last there and the persons who where close to him in his final years, will do it with great passion as they were the true mourners, if Shakespeare is to be invoked again.

    Then when you have all the details it becomes easier to implement. Plannning may take time, but surely , one can do this. You should not hurry thru’ it. By OPN’s next death anniversary it could be ready and posted on the web. His birth and death are both in Jan so you can do it to commemorate as when possible.

    Comment by gajanan — February 6, 2007 @ 6:36 am | Reply

  64. Thanks for the compliments!!! Ms Kaveeta Kaul. Furthermore, the necessity of a website cannot be over-emphasized.
    Thanks also to Mr Ravi for the list of OPN films.I will add two more names to that list. Shrimati 420 (Hum Ko Chore ke Kahan Jao gey )and Mangni .There is yet another OP movie released after Nischay and Zid in the 90s. I cannot remember it’s name at this moment.I have the complete list of OPN movies with me back in pakistan but not here in NY where I live now.
    PS. Can anybody tell me where is G.S Kohli ( OPN’s assistant) these days?.His wonderful scores in SHIKARI,FAULAD,CHAAR DARWESH and NAMASTEYJI in the 60s, are so fresh in my mind.
    Regards,
    Ashraft.

    Comment by Ashraft — February 6, 2007 @ 1:06 pm | Reply

  65. Respected kaveeta Kaul.
    I had opn’s phone number with me and wanted to call him but could never do it, delaying it to every next day. And now he is no more that I can call. I felt down and sad . I selected some poetry on his sad demise . These words gave me strength and courage to face the reality of life and this world where we live. I want to share these words with all those who felt sad and down with the demise of our beloved music director.He still lives in our hearts and speaks to us daily with his wonderful compositions.

    IF TOMORROW STARTS WITH ME,,,,,,,

    And I’m not there to see,
    If the sun should rise and find your eyes
    All filled with tears for me;
    I wish so much you wouldn’t cry
    The way you did today,
    While thinking of the many things,
    We didn’t get to say.
    I know how much you love me,
    As much as I love you,
    And each time that you think of me,
    I know you’ll miss me too;
    But when tomorrow starts without me,
    Please try to understand,
    That an angel came and called my name,
    And took me by the hand,
    And said my place was ready,
    In heaven far above,
    And that I’d have to leave behind
    All those I dearly love.
    But as I turned to walk away,
    A tear fell from my eye
    For all my life, I’d always thought,
    I didn’t want to die.
    I had so much to live for,
    So much left yet to do,
    It seemed almost impossible,

    That I was leaving you.
    I thought of all the yesterdays,
    The good ones and the bad,
    The thought of all the love we shared,
    And all the fun we had.
    If I could relive yesterday,
    Just even for a while,
    I’d say good-bye and kiss you
    And maybe see you smile.
    But then I fully realized,
    That this could never be,
    For emptiness and memories,
    Would take the place of me.
    And when I thought of worldly things,
    I might miss come tomorrow,
    I thought of you, and when I did,
    My heart was filled with sorrow.
    But when I walked through heaven’s gates,
    I felt so much at home.
    When God looked down and smiled at me,

    From His great golden throne,
    He said, “This is eternity,
    And all I’ve promised you.”
    Today your life on earth is past,
    But here life starts anew.
    I promise no tomorrow,
    But today will always last,
    And since each day’s the same way
    There’s no longing for the past.
    You have been so faithful,
    So trusting and so true.
    Though there were times
    You did some things
    You knew you shouldn’t do.
    But you have been forgiven
    And now at last you’re free.
    So won’t you come and take my hand
    And share my life with me?
    So when tomorrow starts without me,
    Don’t think we’re far apart,
    For every time you think of me,
    I’m right here, in your heart.
    ASHRAFT
    NY

    Comment by Ashraft — February 6, 2007 @ 1:26 pm | Reply

  66. laakho.n hai yahaa.N dila vaale, aur pyaar nahii.n milataa
    aa.Nkho.n me.n kisii kii vafaa kaa, iqaraar nahii.n milataa

    mahafil mahafil jaa dekhaa, har dil me.n samaa kar dekhaa
    har saaz pe gaa kar dekhaa
    dil ko kahii.n chain naa milaa – 2
    mai.n to duniyaa me.n pyaare akelaa hii rahaa
    laakho.n hai yahaa.N …

    is dil ko kahaa.N le jaae.n, kuchh aap agar faramaae.n
    to aap ke ham ho jaae.n
    kah do hame.n ha.nsake zaraa – 2
    ajii jo kuchh bhii dil ne tumhaare hai kahaa
    laakho.n hai yahaa.N …

    Well written . Kismat Lyrics SS Bihari
    Hai Ki nai, OP Sahab ke liye likha hai na

    Comment by gajanan — February 6, 2007 @ 2:53 pm | Reply

  67. Mr Harischandra,
    I am sorry if I have hurt your sentiments.It was never my intention.If you read the first line-I said I am thankful for the love that all are showering.I am not at all hoity-toity but I know the pain and that is why the request.My idea is that we should forget about all the painful things and only remember the good things like his music.As far as relationships go,I was not related to him by birth but he was there just as my real father is.To me, the love and affection and the scoldings that I got from Baba are very very dear.Please donot misunderstand what I am trying to say.
    Once again I am sorry if i have hurt anyone’s sentiments.

    Comment by Ashwini Karandikar — February 6, 2007 @ 6:49 pm | Reply

  68. Dear Friends

    I have finally been able to gather myself together. I have been OP Nayyar’s die-hard fan since I was 4 and I am now 55. I literally idolized him and I feel that his music has shaped my personality. A part of me died with Nayyar Saheb on Sunday, January 28th 2007.

    After reading such wonderful sentiments in these colums, there is still so much to write about that great man-a legend in his lifetime. I started writing his biography in February 2005, which is about 40% complete. He has given me the exclusive rights. Two publishers are already lined-up for the publication which is titled
    OP NAYYAR – WHEN RHYTHM WAS KING. We spoke at least once a week. I called to greet him on January 16 on his 81st birthday but we could not speak a lot that day as he had visitors. He called me back to make up for it just four days before his death at 2am Boston time and apologized to my wife saying ” Maaf karna, Yasmin bibi, mujhe waqt ka andaaza nahee raha”. I was up like a light and we spoke for about 20 minutes and sang together for another 10-12 minutes. One of our favourite songs of Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye “Ek Tou Ae Piya jis pe dil aa gaya” and another “Ae dil ae deewanay” – a Geeta Dutt gem from his oldie Baaz. Crazy stuff, right?

    We were to spend the weekend of March 3-4 together at his/Raju’s home in Thane. There were many things that he wanted to get off his chest – matters which have not yet seen the light of the press. I am still going there as per my plan, as the beggar outside his door. I speak to Raju regularly and in future will live Nayyar Saheb through her persona. She is a gem!

    Kaveeta, I will be camping at the Trident Hilton and if you or anybody in the media wants to know more about my book, I would be delighted to meet him/her.Ashwini, you too. But do contact me first on the phone, through the hotel.

    It bleeds my heart to say that all the prominent people of Bollywood who have paid such rich tributes to him in the press, did so from the comfort of their homes. Nobody was there at his home on his death and certainly none of them at his funeral and cremation. I guess this is the fabric that Bollywood is made of.

    Nayyar the person died on January 28, but Nayyar the composer had died 30 years ago. Only his music is immortal and timeless.

    Nayyar Saheb once told me that I was his second biggest fan on this planet and the the rest could fight for the first place. I am humbled. God Bless All.

    Sincerely,

    Siraj Khan
    Boston, MA, USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — February 7, 2007 @ 5:49 am | Reply

  69. Jasbad se aapne aap ko math toko
    Dil ka aaine me dekho
    aue kah do

    Yu tho lakh sangeethkar dekhe
    Paar OPN Jaisa Nahi dekha.

    Comment by gajanan — February 7, 2007 @ 5:59 am | Reply

  70. Dear Friends

    Some add-ons from the previous letters.

    GS Kohli, his capable assistant, died about 8 years ago. He was the man behind OPN’s reknowned dholak effect. He was also a talented composer but was unlucky. What a paradox that the low-budget films in which he composed music are remembered today only because of the songs and not for anything else.All flopped. Take SHIKARI ( believe it or not Ajit was the hero)
    * Tum ko pya dil diya itne naaz se (Lata/Asha)
    * Ye rangeen mehfil gulabi gulabi (Asha)
    * Chaman ke phool bhee tujh ko gulab kehte hain
    (Rafi/Lata) You have to imagine Ajit singing!

    Somebody published the list of OPN films. Please pardon me to say that it has many errors and its also incomplete. But that is fine and many of us did not even have those names.

    Take care

    Siraj Khan
    Boston, MA, USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — February 7, 2007 @ 6:08 am | Reply

  71. Listening to OP songs has always given me the high. Sad to hear he is no more.
    I am sure he will live through his music for ever.

    OP never used to compose songs for the situations. Rather he used to play the tunes in his piano and tell the director to choose what he wanted. Perhaps the genius in him gave the impression to others as being arrogant. OP lost good banners due to this and past 1965 except Joy Mukherjee no big banners backed him.

    OP used the Sarangi to great effect. When he came to the scene with a bang in the mid fifties the classical mould of Naushad and C.Ramachandra suffered. Feeling the heat the greatest of them all, Shanker-Jaikishen swiftly moved to Yahoo and Raag Jaaz to secure their place at the top.

    Today I was listenibg to Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon and as I always do, wondored how and when the tunes would have struck OP.

    Comment by Sanil — February 7, 2007 @ 12:57 pm | Reply

  72. I was going through all the comments given by OPN fans and really Nayyar saab was great composer and he was always much ahed of his time. I would like to share with all OPN fans that he has composed music for a telugu film in the year 1988-89 “Neerajanam” and there were 10 songs in the film all sung by SP Balasubramaniam, S Janaki and M S Rama Rao. All the songs became very popular and are very rich in melody. In this movie OP has composed very differently and the background score was also very nice. In that same year OP had very stiff competion from other legendary south indian composers like Ilayyaraja (with 9 films), Raj-Koti, MS Viswanadahm, K V Mahadevan etc but there also our OPN has proved that he is the king and own the best music director award (Nandi Award) from Govt. of Andhra Pradesh. I salute him for his music in telugu film because he scored such brilliant music without knowing the language. After that though he got many offers in other south indian films but he never worked again.

    G N Murty

    Comment by G N MURTY — February 7, 2007 @ 2:00 pm | Reply

  73. @ Gajanan,

    Thanks for the suggestions. I am a firm believer in destiny and in the fact that we are but instruments in the hands of the Creator. Whatever and however, the website is to take shape, will. I will be only too glad to do all in my capacity to make it see the light of day. Let us keep our fingers crossed.

    @ Ashraft Saheb,

    Please do not refer to me as ‘respected’..it embarasses me. You are much senior and most respectfully Sir , I thank you for the lovely poem you have posted.

    This post is beginning to feel like a treasure for me, a priceless one as well. To be the space for the collection of such loving tributes for Nayyar Saheb, from such loving, sincere fans, is indeed a great honor for my blog ‘Sachiniti’.

    Your query to do with Shri G.S. Kohli has been respoded to by Ashraft Saheb. What a treasure trove of knowledge this is getting to be. I had no idea about the talent of Kohli Saheb.

    Your

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 7, 2007 @ 4:38 pm | Reply

  74. Siraj Saheb,

    Your feelings can be gaged through your comment.

    Your book will be a ‘must read’ for every fan of Nayyar saheb. I am so glad that work on it had begun during his lifetime. Nothing can compensate for the loss of Nayyar Saheb. Who can possibly feel that more than you. But I am sure you must have gained invaluable information gleaned from him over the years,

    I would most certainly meet you when you visit Mumbai. Will you please get in touch with me at the email address provided in the ‘About me’ page? We can co-ordinate then. Also I will post your stay and its details here for others who may be interested in meeting up as well.

    The information on Kohli Saheb is really a revelation. The songs you have mentioned are wonderful…touching and replete with melody. It is such a pity when talent is not accorded the acknowledgement, appreciation and honor it so richly deserves. Fo me, nothing is more tragic than to think that an artist may have left the world pining for his art to have received an audience.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 7, 2007 @ 4:50 pm | Reply

  75. Nayyar sahab the GREATEST!!!!! We’ll miss him.

    I had talked to him few times and met him in 1976 when he invited me to his song recording. Wonderful guy, friendly, very active/agile, quick, swift, full of energy, talkative. I still remember him so vividly, his appearence, attire, his voice, etc.

    All his songs are wonderful, but for some of you who missed his Telugu film songs, check out the Telugu film Neerajanam on Raaga.com. Great songs – Ghallu Ghallunna, Mamathey Madhuram, Manasoka Madhukalasam, Manasoka Madhukalasam, Oohala Ooyalalo

    http://www.raaga.com/channels/telugu/movie/A0000035.html

    – Hemant

    Comment by hemant — February 7, 2007 @ 10:34 pm | Reply

  76. Can someone please tell me the last song recorded by Mohd Rafi for OP Nayyar. OP said one time after Rafi’s death, if there was no Rafi, there would be no OP Nayyar. OP nayyar and Rafi teamed to produce the best songs in the Hindi fil industry. Songs from Kashmir Ki Kali, Ek Musafir, Naya Daur, Tumsa Nahee Dekha, Phir whi Dil Laya Hoon were all super hits. This Rafi/OP will never come again.

    Comment by Asif — February 8, 2007 @ 5:26 am | Reply

  77. http://www.bollywoodsamachar.com/ShowAllNews.asp?News=Glamsham%20News
    See Jan 30 2007 news in thw above web site . This below pasted one if from the above web site. So you have Jackie Shroff and Salman Khan also as admirers. So for web site , you have some more admirers.

    “Nayyar had lined up great plans in the last few weeks before he died” – Jackie Shroff

    ——————————————————————————–
    By R.Manishaa, Bollywood Trade News Network

    The late O.P. Nayyar, who was going through an identity crisis in the last few years of his life, had lined up some grandiose plans in the last few weeks of his life, one of them being a massive show in London that was to take place in June. The show had been coordinated by actor Jackie Shroff who regularly kept in touch with the music director and inquired about his well-being. “I was introduced to him by my businessman friend, Ajay Savla, a few years ago. He treated Ajay like his grandson and the two of us would meet at least once a week over dinner. Nayyar had only a month ago given his nod for a show to be held in London, which we had tried to co-ordinate through my show organizer friend in London. It is sad that he left us before that,” Jackie recalls.

    Both Savla and Jackie recall that the show was a dream project for Nayyar. “He would have been happy to see his Asian fans endorsing his music there. He was eagerly looking forward to it,” he says. Moreover, he had also had a long telephonic conversation with Salman Khan, who was rehearsing for a show to be held later this month. “Salman had a lot of respect for him and spoke to him for a long time despite the fact that his show organizers were waiting for him. He and his family adored Nayyar-saab and his music. In fact, I and Jackie had lined up a meeting between him and Salman that was to take place at the end of this week,” Savla recalls.

    Savla who had known Nayyar as his uncle’s friend was among the two people, with whom he shared the joys and sorrows of his life, besides his adopted daughter Rani Nakhwa. According to Savla, it was Rani who adopted him as a fatherly figure and got him to shift in her house with her family. “Nayyar saab was staying as a paying guest at Thane and Rani used to run a telephone booth in Thane, from where he would make calls to producers. She requested him to move into their house and they were kind enough to even give him a separate room. They treated him like a king in their small home, looking after his needs, tastes, likes and dislikes. He had become more than a family member to them and was staying with them since the last 12 years,” he reveals.

    Savla adds that both he and Jackie were saddened by the indifference of the industry towards Nayyar, a fact which he occasionally mentioned, when he met them. “He often looked desolate and felt that some of his best friends and admirers, did not even bother to call on him,” Jackie reveals. Also, there was a point of time, according to Ajay Savla, when he had to forego his lavish style and come to terms with a simple and modest living when the payments due to him did not come. “At one point of time, he was the highest paid music director in the industry. Also, he was the only music director who commanded the entire royalty for his music and made it conditional that he would not split it with anyone. Ironically, the same companies who flourished on his music backed out of paying their royalty due to him by claiming that they were going through losses. Even the people whom he had loaned money in the industry,” Savla reveals. The biggest irony according to him was the fact that despite being one of the topmost music directors in the industry in his heydays, there was not a single Bollywood celebrity from the industry at his funeral. “There was only Anu Kapoor who made it a point to pay his respects, besides a few non-film acquaintances. More disappointing was the presence of a leading politician who used the opportunity to establish his presence in the media and simply ignored his adopted daughter.”

    Comment by gajanan — February 8, 2007 @ 9:34 am | Reply

  78. It has saddened me no end of hearing of his demise.

    It is so nice to meet so many fans gathered here in one place and get to read different stories of this legend..There is so much i did not know. This is like a one stop space for O.P. Nayyar now. I will hope that more and more information on him is left here for all to read.

    Thank you!!

    Comment by murali rg — February 8, 2007 @ 4:20 pm | Reply

  79. Fame and Lakshmi are the most chanchal – kabhi ek jagah tikti nahin. Guru Dutt showed this beautifully in Kagaz ke Phool. I am glad as a senior citizen, OP ji got some love and affection from his adopted family as I believe he paid for his actions in the later days.

    Ashwini, I understand you saw a different side of OP Nayyar as did I – each coin has two sides.

    The reason Lata and OP Nayyar never worked together (as the story goes)… When OPji was a struggling musician, Lata was already famous. She refused to work with an unknown music composer. It was Asha – her lesser known sister (at that time) who willingly sang for OPji. Later, when OP Nayyar saab became successful, Lata came to see him with a bottle of champagne. OP Nayyar took the bottle of champagne and flung it to the ground and walked off. That is said to be the reason why OP and Lata never worked together.

    As far as personal lives go – fame has a price, in most cases, it is your privacy. That is the flip side to being well known and felicitated – so it is understandable the masses are always curious about the beautiful and the talented.

    I sincerely wish some one would get all his songs together – oh what a blessing that would be!

    I still remember him in the seventies ( I was a child) but I would hide in the building stairwell to see him – he wore a cream silk kurta and turquoise lungi. Later on when I grew up, seeing the old seventies’ movies, I realised how popular the lungi was in those days. Sulakshna Pandit was with him for a photo shoot or something. He had a huge grand piano in his flat and on his birthday the flat would be covered with red roses from the Oberoi Sheraton (those days it was a part of the Sheraton chain) florist shop.

    I wonder if anyone from the film industry even bothered to send flowers, let alone, come and pay their respects to him.

    As I said, Fame & Lakshmi – very chanchal and very fickle – they run away very quickly.

    Anu Sen, Toronto

    Comment by anu sen — February 9, 2007 @ 12:58 am | Reply

    • hi,
      Its a co incidence that my wedding anniversary is 16th january.
      The last movies nusic was created,in our hotel at Secunderabdad.
      we met the whole team.
      he loved the food and hospitality.
      he called me beti
      he touched my ma in law’s feet.
      he was a ISKCON member and so were we…we had lenghty discussions.
      we would have him enjoy scotch and lavish food,and the band would play all his numbers non stop.He would feel so Alive.!!
      am glad that for some time,at least some happiness went his way.
      when he would go to mumbai…he would wish to be out of touch.

      Comment by romi mathur — October 31, 2010 @ 10:08 am | Reply

  80. One is failing to understand , how Lata mourned OPN passing away and why still there is no comment from Asha Bhonsle. Now this song from Kismet “aao huzuur tumako, sitaaro.n me.n le chaluu.N”. Nayyar Sahab tho Sitaro me baas gaye, paar Ashaji’s silence is really stupefying. Oh !! Shakeshpeare have you written anything on gratitude. Why not myself write like the Bard. Yes !!!. Here it is.

    “Oh !! Gratitude, you have adopted a deathly silence.

    This web site reminds us of his music to our ears.

    Gratitude why are you so dumb

    To make his fans go numb.
    Unleash youself , pour yourself out.

    Words, tears , emotions anything will do.

    Gratitude we are waiting for you to unwind your atitude.

    Do it fast, Magar Pyar se”

    Comment by gajanan — February 9, 2007 @ 10:57 am | Reply

  81. I have been an ardent fan of Mr. O.P.Nayyar since the day i heard his score in the film BAAZ. Thereafter I have seen every of his film. The whether flopped or ran always had excellent music. Unfortumately all those magical tracks are not available. I still remember his haunting score in the film called “Mehbooba” made by K.Amarnath productions. If any one has the album of this picture, i shall be too gald to have it. There are numerous other films whose tracks though were excellent yet are not available like of Mr. Qartoon M.A., Johny Walker, Jaali Note, Hongkong, Basant,Naya Andaz,Frishta, Ustad, Do Ustad, Kabhi Andhera Kabi Ujala etc.
    I have on my MP3 Disc about 300 of his songs which were availbe on various websites and I have downloaded them. If any one wants a copy of this disc,I shall be too glad to share it free of cost.Hats off to Nayyar Sahib.He was a GEM. His music was haunting with a unique style. He was certainly a master of rythem.My his soul rest in peace.
    C.P.Sharma

    Comment by C.P.Sharma — February 9, 2007 @ 12:52 pm | Reply

  82. Ms. Ashwini Karandikar,

    thanks for giving reply. Anyone who has read will see that I am right. You came here only to tell how much your sister worked for the Great man. After that as if you are saying ”bachcha log theek hai..shukriya.. par abhi bas karo” because ‘ main unki beti hoon”. We are all not coming here to talk to you. all are speaking here so much only for respect for O.P. nayyar ji so you dont have to thank us to take take credit. It is not right that people talk against Nayyar ji now, but it is also not right that you give orders like a madam of school. Thats all.

    It is so good to read all the other posts. So much love here for this great man. Mr. C.P. sharma you are a great man to offer free cd’s..bless you.

    Comment by raja harishchandra — February 9, 2007 @ 1:51 pm | Reply

  83. Mr. C. P. sharma, for Jali Note songs, go to youtube.com and type o p nayyar. This will give you all songs – wonderful songs with Dev sahab, Madhubala, and Helen.

    – Hemant

    Comment by hemant — February 9, 2007 @ 7:11 pm | Reply

  84. Hi Anu,
    Thanx for the reply and understanding.I understand where you are coming from.Care to be friends?

    Siraj-ji,
    Thank you.Baba had mentioned about the book.I have always wanted to write but……Please give me the contact number so that I can contact you.I really look forward to meeting you and reading your book.

    Comment by Ashwini Karandikar — February 9, 2007 @ 9:17 pm | Reply

  85. Mestro op nayyar was in bangalore to receive the rotary award on 21 Dec. In fact, in the interval I asked him to send the cassette of Love and Murder and requested hhis grand daughter Rani nakhwa. i do not know what made me to call him on 25th Jan around six in the evening and to my surptise he was on the cell phone and remembered and thanked.He was hale and hearty and spoke wel, littel he knew nor I that death was knocking at his door step. Let his soul rest in peace.Pleasemy emoational tribute to him on my mail

    Comment by moolbharati prakash — February 10, 2007 @ 3:53 pm | Reply

  86. Dear Friends

    As Kaveeta mentions, these discussions have really taken fire and we must keep throwing the charcoal in the fireplace.

    This is a multiple messenger for several wonderful people whom I have come into contact with through the courtesy of Sachiniti

    Kaveeta

    I have just two days in Mumbai i.e March 3 and 4. I will not be carrying a cell phone but please contact me through Hilton Towers – Nariman Point. I would be delighted to meet you in person with my wife Yasmin. God Bless You for this very vibrant dialogue

    Ashwini

    I will be spending a lot of time with Raju during that weekend and perhaps we can link up through her.

    Ashraft

    If you (and any others) who live in USA, lets be in contact. My cell # is 978-621-8030.

    Looks like we are on the same journey. I would love to be in contact with you and there may be a lot of things to share about that great man.

    CP Sharma

    Even if you make it sound simple, what else could the downloading be except labour of love. I would be truly indebted to you, if you could allow me to have a copy of the CD. I do not know where you are located but my address is

    Siraj Khan
    10 Atherton Road
    Hudson MA 01749 USA
    Email: Khansaheb2@aol.com

    All

    For those who may be interested, please get in touch with OP Nayyar Gaurav Granth Samiti in Andheri (West). I believe the point person is Vishwas Nerurkar.

    My travel schedule in India if anyone would like to meet and talk about the great man and his unique style of composition. Waah!

    Feb 25-28 New Delhi
    Mar 1-2 Patna
    Mar 3-4 Mumbai
    Mar 5-7 Pune
    Mar 8-10 Burhanpur
    Mar 11-12 Agra
    Mar 13-15 New Delhi

    Then off to Vietnam

    I carry my laptop so email contact will work

    Siraj Khan
    Khansaheb2@aol.com

    Comment by Siraj Khan — February 10, 2007 @ 6:06 pm | Reply

  87. Siraj Khan.
    Thanks so much . I would love to be in contact with you and share /discuss our beloved composer OP Nayyar… and his music. I shall call you soon.
    KaveetaKaul. It is just so wonderful to read and share our sentiments for the Great Man through this site.. Would it be possible to include a Photo section ( of Nayyar sahib ) , in this website.

    Comment by Ashraft — February 11, 2007 @ 11:16 am | Reply

  88. Everyday as I check the comments I am welcomed with amazement as i read through further snippets of Nayyar sahebs career.

    @Hemant..Thanks for informing us of the compositions in South Indian languages. It was such a revelation. He was so gifted that language ofcourse could hardly pose as a barrier for a man who composed from the core of his soul.

    @ Asif..That is so true. Rafi and O.P. Nayyar together with their romantic hits are as unforgettable as the ragas created by the masters of yore, and if I may add no lesser in their significance.

    @ murali..Yes this space has transformed into a veriatble homage site for Nayyar saheb. Last year when I began writing this post, I had requested Siraj saheb to inform him that is yet a huge audience and lovers of his music revelling in the melody of his compositions almost half a century after their inception. I dont know why I feel that it is his blessing which has translated into this site then being a composite place for all his fans to meet, assemble and reminiscence.

    @ Anu.. thanks for your information on Latas and Nayyar sahebs dis-connection musically and of your memories.

    @Gajanan..dekha .. ‘aap ko shaayar bana diya..Your effort in translating grief is noteworthy..thanks.

    @C.P.Sharma saheb..your offer is so kind and nobility of your soul peeps through. I would love to have a copy of his songs but only on condition that you accept atleast the cost and posting expenses..Thanks

    @moolbharati prakash saheb..you can rest in the knowledge that you got to meet and converse with the maestro..unforgettable moments I am sure.

    @ Siraj Khan Saheb..truly this wondrous gift of getting to meet here is awesome. I am looking forward to meeting with you next month when we can spend a few moments speaking and sharing our thoughts on Nayyar Saheb.There is information which might pleasantly surprise you.

    @ Ashraft Saheb..of course I will gladly include pictures of Nayyar saheb. In fact I will try and get this post as a permanenet fixture on the Home page so that the fond memories of Nayyar Saheb which we have shared here and continue to do so, remains fresh and alive as long as Sachiniti does..Thanks

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 11, 2007 @ 1:16 pm | Reply

  89. I can never become a poet.
    Without listening to OPN’s duet.

    I can write with grief.
    But gratitude is not even brief.

    Probably , you sang well.
    Now you feel, why say words which will sound like a frog in the well.

    Don’t worry I know you are writing in silence.
    and waiting for super eloquence.

    Are you meditating for words?
    Contemplating on songs which had memorable words.

    You see , gratitude , my patience is wearing
    The web is not for tearing.

    I know , you are summing up the courage.
    To join in the mourners entourage.

    Gratitude , yeh lo , aakhri labz
    In OPN’s music.

    Thumhara Chahane wala Khuda ki duniya me
    Thum ho kis duniya me.

    Comment by gajanan — February 12, 2007 @ 5:11 am | Reply

  90. Thumhara Chahane wala Khuda ki duniya me
    Thum ho kis duniya me ( this line is added by me, folks. Apologies for disturbing the wonderful lyrics) Now just analyse the first four lines in the song sung by the female voice. How relevant it is and how gratitude has forgotten these lines in that great jasbadwala lyrics. Probably gratitude has a taste for Besura, Bekhayal Gane

    tumhAre dil ko kahI.n mujhase kabhI Thes lage
    mujhe yakIn hai aisA kabhI nahI.n hogA
    mujhe vafAo.n pe apanI ba.DA bharosA hai
    tumhArA pyAr hI de jAye nA kahI.n dhokhA
    duA ye hai ke tumhArA khudA kI duniyA me.n
    mere sivA bhI koI aur ho khudA nA kare
    tumhArA chAhane vAlA …
    %

    Comment by gajanan — February 12, 2007 @ 8:18 am | Reply

  91. C.P.Sharma Ji. Thanks you so much for the generosity of offering a treasure of OP’s songs CD. I would love to have it .My address is,
    M.Ashraf
    76-15, 222nd Street,Oakland Gardens,NY,11364.
    Ashraft

    Comment by Ashraft — February 12, 2007 @ 11:58 am | Reply

  92. I have a double disk ‘Best of OP Nayyar’ album which has some of OPN’s best compositions. If anybody wants to have a copy of it I’ll be delighted to send a copy (free of charge)to any worldwide destination. Please feel free to ask for one if you need.

    By the way……could anybody kindly tell me how can I get a copy of the GREAT Mohd Rafi song ‘Main Kab Gaata Mere Swar Me, Pyar Kisika Gaata Hain…..’. It is a non-filmi song written by Anjan. I will be obliged if any of you could come out with any help.

    Comment by Abed — February 13, 2007 @ 4:29 pm | Reply

  93. The beauty of Nayyar songs was in his orchestration and the plethora of instruments he used in the composition. Nayyar would have 30 to 40 musicians in the recording studio for a single recording. There would be 4 or 5 musicians playing violin, 3 on mandolin, a couple on Spanish guitar, 2 to 3 on flute, a couple on clarinet. In addition he would have the bongos, congas, drums, tabla, dholak, keyboard, piano, harmonium, electric guitar, Hawaiian guitar, santoor, sitar, sarod, sarangi, vina, surling (a modified instrument made only for OP songs (please correct if I misspelled) and I was told that there are only two of such instruments in the world), xylophone, harp, saxophone, jal tarang, and other minor instruments such as maraca, triangle, tambourine, ghungru, wooden sticks, etc.

    Check out the song Huzoore Wala from Yeh Raat Phir Ne Aiyagi and Deko Dilbar from Pran Jaye Per Vacchan Ne Jaye. You can easily count 22 to 25 instruments used in these songs if you pay attention to the details. The combination of saxophone, clarinet, violin, guitar, piano, and mandolin is just as amazing as the switchover from the western drum/Conga based percussion to eastern tabla/dholak style from the mukdha to aantra. OP was quite detail oriented which is demonstrated in his use of the smaller and minor instruments. Check out the saxophone, guitar, and piano in the song Deko Dilbar – it’s just fantastic. I’m just too amazed with his musical genius and sometimes wonder how his brain was wired.

    – Hemant

    Comment by Hemant — February 13, 2007 @ 9:28 pm | Reply

    • BTW check out Huzoorewaala recording from the movie vs the record/tape/cd. They are sung differently. I wonder if this song was recorded twice. The difference is clearly noticeable in “Kyon na Kehde Mohabbat Khuda Hai, Ye Haqeeqat Nahi Hai to Kya Hai”

      Comment by Venkatesh — April 4, 2010 @ 2:52 am | Reply

  94. Hemantbhai, A genius works in that way.
    http://www.downmelodylane.com/opnaiyyar.html
    This is good web site . It gives a list of 71 films and a write up.

    Comment by gajanan — February 14, 2007 @ 6:31 am | Reply

  95. Hello Abed,

    Thats a great offer.. Would you like me to post your email add. to enable people to get in touch with you?

    Hi Hemant,

    Clearly you are someone connected with the music industry or atleast passionate about the finer intricacies of musical composition. I loved your comment. maybe you should dissect a few of your favourite songs by Nayyar Saheb and write of it here, so that we can enjoy your observations of the accompaniments he utilised ever so melodiously. Gosh his songs have such a way of uplifting your mood, no matter how much in the doldrums you seem to be.

    Another thing.. you Know Hemant at the time that Nayyar Saheb recorded, the song was ‘taken’ in one go..no ‘punches’ and ‘punchin in’ as is done today. So even a slight mistake by either the musician or singer and the whole exercise begins from scratch. To conduct an orchestra with such fine tuning was commendable. Today the scenario is different,

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 14, 2007 @ 11:50 am | Reply

  96. During the recording session, the musicians at the recording studio respected OP because I believe he was the force behind the system of advance payment to the musicians. The musicians loved him because he generally wrapped the song recording within the first 3 takes and within 3 hours compared to other music directors that took 7 to 8 hours. This allowed the musicians the opportunity to play for another recording on the same day so they could earn more (the musicians I believe commanded an average of about Rs150 per song recording per musician during those days in 1976 – at least that was what I know the guitarist, drummer or the conga player made (quite good in those days compared to the cost of living when gasoline may have been about Rs6 and a masala dosa Rs2, sorry but I love dosa!)

    On the day of recording, OP would be very punctual and even be at the studio earlier than the scheduled time. As a fan of his he had invited me to see his song recording in 1976. At the studio when he entered the main front door entrance on the ground floor we could feel his aura and the sensation. He walked fast and took us to the second floor where the recording studio was. After talking a bit and offering us chairs he got to his business. Several new and young musicians that had not played for him before were enthralled and mesmerized by his personality and were touching his feet for his blessings. At the studio he was quick and swift, mingled with everyone including the young musicians, and joked. He completed the song recording very quickly in the third take. After the third take he went to the microphone and announced “Pack-up,” which meant that the recording was finalized and that the musicians were free to pack-up and leave. At this point, the musicians cheered and clapped so happily as if they had never experienced a song recording finalized within the first three takes. Many young and older musicians including the chorus singers were getting his blessings by touching his feet. OP was very friendly with everybody in the studio and had the persona and the appeal that clearly made him the center of attraction.

    Robin Chatterjee, the sound recordist in charge of the studio, I recall (having heard in those days), had received intimidation from Lata and Asha about boycotting the studio if they recorded Nayyar’s song. But Robin was firm with his beliefs that everybody had the right to use the studio as long as it was paid for. Robin, as I remember during the recording, was a very cool guy and worked with OP in finalizing the song recording.

    O P was humble and accessible to his fans. He was sociable and young at heart. I regret not seeing him lately when I was in Bombay in July 2005 due to the heavy rains that lashed the city. Today, OP is not with us, but his songs and music will always be with us forever.
    May god bless you Mr Nayyar.

    – Hemant

    Comment by Hemant — February 14, 2007 @ 10:42 pm | Reply

  97. Hi Kav

    My e-mail address is abed9631@yahoo.com. You can pass it around to anybody who’d like to contact me.

    By the way-I’m still looking for info about that Rafi song I mentioned in last post.

    Comment by Abed — February 14, 2007 @ 10:44 pm | Reply

  98. In one of my many telephone discussions with the great man, he mentioned that the skeleton behind most of his songs was very basic – that it ran on four pieces (tukras) eg

    – Huzoorwala, jo ho ijazat, to hum ye saray, jahan se kehden

    – Sawan ki ghata chayee, ye dekh ke dil jhooma
    li pyar ne angrai, deewana hua badal

    – balma khuli hawa mein, mehki hui fiza mein
    dil chahta hai mera, behekna idhar udhar

    – meri zindagi mein apni, chahat ka rang bhardo
    meri jaan tumpe sadqay, ehsaan itna kardo

    and one can go on and on.

    What really happened was that with this simple the song became catchy, hummable and committed to memory effortlessly and you didn’t even know that it happened. Even his situational songs have been immortal.

    Take probably the least heard song of Kismet

    One Two Three Baby Ya ya Ya, Ya Ya Ya (Asha/MK)

    You just have to hear it once and bingo you will never ever forget the tune. Guaranteed!

    Now hear out the lyrics of this unheard of gem

    “Zara cherr do aisa naghma koi, ke sari fiza gungunanay lagay,

    Jo dil ab tak ulfat se anjaan hai, wafa ke taranay sunanay lagay” ( same 4 tukras)

    His style, his signature beat, will always be there. Quality was never compromised.

    He even recorded a song outdoors to get the right effect. Any guesses here?? Hint: Its a duet.

    He has written an amazing number of songs ( specially the mukhras/asthai)himself but let the lyricist take the credit. He once mentioned to me ” How could I ask anyone to write “Kabhi Aar Kabhi Paar Laga Teeray nazar”?

    On his looks, I believe Madhubala had asked him seriously many times that he should think of becoming a hero. Don’t know how far that it true, but he had given me a very romantic picture of the two where he is looking at the camera and she is looking at him.

    Before I leave you all, here’s another bummer. For one of his films CID 909, he charged more than the hero(Feroz Khan) and the heroine together. He had told the producer this film has no meat in it and you will get the money back only because of the songs. Guarnteed! And we got in that deal

    – Yaar badshaah, yaar dilruba
    – Dharka to hoga dil zaroor
    – Nadee ka kinara ho
    – Tera nikhra nikhra chehra

    and many others. The film was a moderate success and the director was grateful to OPN.

    It will all be there in his biography.

    Best,

    Siraj Khan
    Boston, USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — February 15, 2007 @ 5:20 am | Reply

  99. Hemant bhai. the info you have given about Robin Chatterji , must be true, for there is not even a hawa ka zokha from gratitude. Time they say is great healer. Kambakt, even death cannot change the atitude of gratitude. Who requires platitudes, when we have multitudes of fans and well wishers on the web site for OPN.

    Comment by gajanan — February 15, 2007 @ 9:47 am | Reply

  100. I was a great fan of Nayyar Saheb. Every important juncture of my life had a song which interpreted it so well. I have a huge collection of his numbers. But after coming here I feel as if a family is getting developed.Joined with his tunes and melodies. Its really a lot of information I am getting here..How can Nayyar saheb ever die now! It is true he will always live beyond the physical plane.

    Comment by krishnan — February 15, 2007 @ 1:05 pm | Reply

  101. I cannot begin to explain how wonderful my mornings feel when I sit in front of my computer, hands cupped under my chin, a smile playing, coffee long gone cold, and read through the wonderful comments posted here. I can as if transport myself into Nayyar sahebs world so vividly. Thanks so much .

    @ Hemant..you mentioned in the previous post about the plethora of instruments used by Nayyar saheb. How did he then manage to synchronise them all in just 2-3 takes? Were there extensive rehearsals prior to that? Or was it just that the musical score for each was written and handed over. I am really curious to know. And you have been truly lucky to have actually attended one of his recordings and seen the genius at work!

    ‘Huzoore-e-wala’ remains a favourite and the instruments embellish the song wonderfully. I have never heard of the ‘surling’..but will want to find out more on it now.

    Ofcourse one can imagine the mesmerising quality of his demeanour. In fact I had met him at a premiere, and can recall clearly his ever smiling countenance, regal air and aura of confidence he carried off so well..inimitable actually. And yes.. he was the highest paid and often the recipient of angry and jealous remarks as well from envious colleagues.

    I also have heard of the ‘boycott call’..but Talent finds its patronisers and audience. It is like the rays of the sun, which will peep through at the smallest gap amidst dark clouds, with its brilliance intact..I guess the much like the ‘Om’ and ‘Prakash’ of his name.

    Please tell us more,

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 15, 2007 @ 1:40 pm | Reply

  102. @ Abed..Thanks . I guess your e mail’s there now for all to see and those interested will get in touch with you.

    Also your query on Rafi sahebs song..I have asked a few knowledgable ones and its posted here as well.. hopefully soon the answer will come through. This space is converting into a Wiki for Nayyar Saheb and it thrills me no end.

    @ Siraj Saheb..as usual the tidbits from you are so invigorating.

    About the four ‘tukras’ is fascinating. I find myself in spare moments dissecting it thus on all his songs.

    However I am intrigued. Was this the ‘meter’ which was given to the lyricists or did he break up the lyrics thus? What one gets to hear is that in order to grant complete creative independence to the lyricist he made them write first and then composed subsequently.

    A song out doors? Now thats NEW..and a first even today I
    think..Remarkable..Guesses? I am foxed frankly. Because logically the recording quality should have sounded different.And I cannot recall any. Ofcourse I am no authority either..but was it ” Maang ke saath Tumhaara” from Naya Daur? I am dying to know now.

    He used to write the ‘asthai’ as well.. Hmmm..I guess since he composed with a certain Rhythm then words which would fit best had to be his creation automatically and set off the lyricist on the path.

    The photograph of Madhubala and Nayyar Saheb.. I’m sure you will include that in your bio..It would be really interesting.

    Were those CID Songs? They were truly memorable. And of course its not difficult to believe that he would charge more than the lead pair! After all today all we recollect are the songs from that film. Who can deliver such guarantees today with as much confidence! And the bill boards I’m sure read ‘O.P. Nayyars-CID 909″.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 15, 2007 @ 2:34 pm | Reply

  103. Dear Kaveeta

    Here is a quickie to answer some of your questions:

    The duet I referred to is unique and historical in more ways than one.

    Thandi Thandi Hawa, mujhe unka pata,
    Laaj aye sakhi kaise, kyon mein bata

    ( chaar tukras again)

    Its a Geeta/Asha number from Johnny Walker(1957)
    a film which dealt with the problem of drinking.

    That was the only Geeta/Asha track recorded by OPN. Historically, that was also the turning point when Geeta got phased out from his recordings, due to her own personal problems, and Asha was firmly installed as Choice #1. What goes to Geeta’s credit though is that, despite swimming against the current, she delivered big time whenever she got the chance. Soon after Thandi Thandi Hawa, OP recorded all the songs of Howrah Bridge with Asha, and Geeta had to do with just one solo but with Mera Naam Chin Chin Choo she not only delivered but paled all the other hits of the movie, including Yeh Kya kar dala tu ne, dil tera ho gaya, Ayye Mehrbaan etc.

    He did not experiment with lyricists. Those who worked with him e.g Jan Nisar Akhtar (Javed Akhtar’s father),Majrooh, SH Behari, et al knew OPN’s meters and format. There are many songs of his which were “cleen sheet’ – pure lyrics given to him for which he composed. However, probably an equal number were those where he gave the “mukhras” and some key words as pointers (like you said) to set them off on a path. Being a poet himself helped him tremendously and that is why the quality of lyrics were never compromised.

    One of the things that amazed me no end about him was that he was unable to speak, read or write in Hindi. It was always Urdu, English or Punjabi. I found his English to be immaculate and his Urdu classy.

    If anybody is visiting Dubai, do have a dinner at Asha’s (the classy/upscale restaurant owned and managed by Asha Bhosle with her recipes) where a naan is Rs 150. The sound system there is superb and, not surprisingly, they play her hits non-stop. You can also request. I have heard some incredible and rare OPN tracks there. Asha is there 4 or 6 times a year.

    More later for our mulaqaat.

    Siraj Khan
    Boston USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — February 16, 2007 @ 4:57 am | Reply

  104. Thanks for including my comment. I feel Love and Murder songs still best of his composition. Yeh Jeevan kitne bar mele oh sajana tera pyaar mele and Taxi Driver Kha kar tu ne paan and many more are the composition. I would be thank full if any of you are able to inform me where and how to get the casette of the aforesaid

    Comment by moolbharati prakash — February 16, 2007 @ 11:01 am | Reply

  105. piyaa piyaa piyaa..
    piyaa piyaa piyaa meraa jiyaa pukaare
    (ham bhi chalenge sainyaa sang tumhaare) -2
    chori chori chori
    chori chori chori kaahe hamen pukaare
    What song ? What vibrance? Kishore Kumar Ganguly & Asha at their best , with genius of OPN.
    (main piyaa tori chhaayaa, main sang sang DolooN
    tu jaaye jahaaN sainyaa, main saath tere ho looN) -2
    ye rut man bhaati ye din madmaate (This line is simply great). Even after 52 yrs it is an elevating song. One doubts if any new songs will last as long as this song.

    Comment by gajanan — February 16, 2007 @ 11:13 am | Reply

  106. Siraj Saheb,

    Your description of Nayyar Saheb reminded me so much of my late father.. He wrote and spoke impeccable English and Urdu as well. In fact he was a poet , by hobby, who shared very many social moments with nayyar saheb. Jagjit Singh too has sung my fathers compositions..like

    ‘Meri ajab hai zindagi kisise se kya gilla karoon

    Tanhai rooth jaaye toh, mere khuda main kya karoon”

    Or..

    “deewaaron dar pe naqsh banane ka hai junoon

    khud tujhko aaj tujhse churaane ka hai junoon”

    The one ‘shair he often quoted which keeps me going is

    ” Tundiye bade mukhalif se na ghabra aye auqaab

    Yeh to chalti hai tujhe ooncha udaane ke liye”

    I have snaps of Papas with Nayyar saheb, which I will show you when we meet.

    In fact you can read more of this here.
    https://sachiniti.wordpress.com/2006/02/05/an-uncommon-love-story/

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 16, 2007 @ 2:41 pm | Reply

  107. Moolbharati Ji,

    Your comment is being read by many.. in case someone has the aforesaid they will definitely bring it to our notice. On my end i will speak to as many as possible.

    Regards

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 16, 2007 @ 8:44 pm | Reply

  108. Can someone please tell me the last song recorded by Rafi for OP Nayyar? I truely believe that in any OP Nayyar movie, the songs sung by Mohd Rafi were far greater hits than sung by other singers. Look at CID, Naya Daur, Tumusa Nehee Dekha, Ek Musafir Ek Hasina, Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon, Mere Sanam, and many others. That is why Rafi was the male singer in 90% of his songs throughout his career. There was a reason. Together these two made great songs.

    Comment by Asif — February 16, 2007 @ 9:44 pm | Reply

  109. Kaveeta, The actual recording for the 3 or 4 takes would take no more than 15 to 20 minutes. But the 3 or 4 hour session included the distribution of the written musical score to each artist including the singers, preparation and practice by each artist, sound system requirements and adjustments, explanation of the requirements to each artist, mingling, finalizing, packing/unpacking, etc.

    Nayyar’s recording were quicker than other music directors because he did not believe in many retakes that would result in diminishing returns. You may notice that in the song Piya Piya Piya mera jiya pukara Asha had made an error when Kishore Kumar was to continue the second antara. However, Nayyar finalized the song with the error.

    You bring a good point though about the rehearsal, Kaveeta. I didn’t recall any rehearsal taking place though. I’m not sure how Nayyar operated outside the studio, but I can tell you how LP worked (and there may be some parallels here). Laxmikant would have a sitting session at his home in Juhu every evening where the key musicians met (Laxmiji would be on harmonium/mandoin with his klan – assistant music directors, guitarist, dholak, conga, sometimes the lyricist, etc.) The inception of tunes and the percussion and accompaniment would start during these sessions which were later shared with the producer for their buy-in. The assistants managed the written musical score for the artists.

    OP used many renowned artists such as Hariprasad for flute among other flutist, Shiv Kummar for Santoor, Hazara Singh for electric Hawaiin guitar, etc. These musicians are/were professionals and had previous experience with OP and were quick to understand his requirements.

    Comment by Hemant — February 17, 2007 @ 1:59 am | Reply

  110. i would be interested in paying money to someone who has a complete collection of OP sahib’s songs. His music was melodious, haunting, mesmerizing, enchanting and plain thrilling. his music is immortal.

    Comment by Jatinder Vohra — February 17, 2007 @ 10:38 am | Reply

  111. Came here through PodioIndia. Nicely written stuff, and so many knowledgeable comments here – I should have come to this blog a lot earlier.

    I am a die hard OP fan myself and was sad to hear the news of his demise. I wrote some on OP myself – last year (OP, RD and AR), and a short tribute few weeks ago after the news.

    Wanted to ask Siraj if he is planning to complete the bio with help from OP’s friends and well wishers now. Siraj, let us know when your work is complete.

    Comment by silkboard — February 18, 2007 @ 1:00 am | Reply

  112. The last songs of Rafi/OP (solo) were recorded for Bin Maa Ke Bachchey in 1979. None of them were real hits though. Heera Moti (1979 as well)had duets. Again no great shakes there.

    I thought that OPN’s last flickers of real brilliance were seen in Nishchaiy (1992).

    Kisee Haseen Yaar Ki Talaash Hai (Amit Kumar/Kavita)’s duet in the Pukarta Chala hoon Mein mould, is a treat.

    Dekho Dekho Tum, Ho Gaya Mein Gum kitni Haseen raat Hai (Amit/Kavita) is another great one with the usual OP magic flowing through. Actually this Salman/Karishma starrer is a pretty decent movie to watch, with an excellent background score. Vinod Khanna looks cool.

    Qamar Jalalabadi and Noor Dewasi, the lyricists/poets, were with him right upto the end of his film composing days.

    In fact, for those who have not heard it, get hold of “The Loves Of Runa Laila” – a private album where OPN and Runa Laila form Bangladesh experimented and have weaved together some great tracks with Noor Dewasi’s lyrics.

    * Meri Jaan Mein Tujh pe Fida, De Saza Chahe jitni mujhe

    * Allah Re Is Dil Ne Kya Cheez pasand ki hai

    * Meri dilbar haseena ( reactivated from the archives. Originally formatted for Rafi)

    *Aaja Piya Bahon Mein

    bear OP’s signatures with your eyes closed. These can be easily taken in any film of today and turn into megahits.

    Kaveeta Kaul, those wonderful lines have taken me into a different directions. Its now more evident to me where you get your “roohani ghiza” from. Please allow me the privilege of getting to know more of your father’s kalaam.

    And to end this message on poetry. There are many who may not be aware that it was OP Nayyar who actually wrote those beautiful lyrics for “Preetam Aan Milo” and composed this gem as a teenager. His intent was to sing it himself but he realized that his voice was not deep enough for it and an in came C.H. Atma and the rest, as they say, is history. Later, much later, OP re-recorded this song in Geeta Dutts’s soulful voice for Mr & Mrs 55. I read somewhere that this was one of Guru Dutt’s all time favourites.

    Best,

    Siraj Khan
    Boston, MA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — February 18, 2007 @ 2:34 am | Reply

  113. In this web site many have poured their heart out for OPN. Mahesh Bhatt’s tribute that OPN shaped the voice of Asha Bhonsle was an acknowledgment , with an open mind. Now , SK had written that , there is an restaurtant in Dubai and Asha B visits there many times. So lets change the latitude for gratitude. Samajh gaye na Guru!!!!. Jara Deep think kar lo.

    Comment by gajanan — February 19, 2007 @ 7:58 am | Reply

  114. Why not hold a function for OPN in Dubai sometime this year in “Yehi woh zagah hai” restaurant and collect funds for OPN’s super duper web site and of course hand it over to the ones who cared for him in Thane.

    Comment by gajanan — February 20, 2007 @ 8:30 am | Reply

  115. Hi Hemant,

    Oh Yes.. I recall well that ‘mistake’ by Asha in ‘piya piya ..she began on her ..aa aa before kishore repeated his line..It was such a valid example you brought in and one which only few really noticed..Kinda establishes bondedness.

    Over the years recording procedures have changed so drastically, things have gotten so much more convenient, with ‘punching’ and tracks et al that it befuddles one all the more on the almost ‘amazing feat’ kinda quality of those days.

    I have attended quite a few recordings lately , as well as say a decade ago and some much earlier..and the graph of technological wizcraftry is something. Although whether or not it has added to the melody of musical scores is highly debatable..Why would we be eulogising stalwarts such as Nayyar Saheb today, decades later if not for that sole reason.. their unadulterated genius!

    When you mention the masters of santoor and guitar and sarod and sarangi.. it feels so nostalgic today when the Keyboard is that single “Masterji” with its robotic attribute, which has replaced the energy of those who had perhaps dedicated their lives to the honing of a single skill to do with the instrument of their choice. If composite energy is a factor that determines the success, failure or even plainly the journey of a song, what is lacking today then is the varied contributions of different souls, each gifting a melody his particular brand of ingenuity.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 20, 2007 @ 10:20 am | Reply

  116. @ Asif..Siraj Saheb has responded to your query on Rafis last song with Nayyar ji.

    @ silkboard..koi baat nahin..der aaye durust aaye..aaye to sahi. I guess this space on Nayyar Saheb will attract all his fans like say ‘parwana to shama’.

    @Siraj Saheb,

    With each post of yours here on Sachiniti, the curiosity for your book increases. One will happily give it centrestage on its publication so that the announcement will afford his admirers to get a ‘up close and personal view’ of O.P. Nayyar.. his life, his times and his genius.

    Thanks so much for your kind words on my fathers poetry. We are in the process of sifting through his collections, and getting them printed. It might really astound you as to the deep thought, and ‘hunar’ of Papas craft as well as his vast knowledge of the language of Urdu , the correctness of the ‘wazan’ of his lines. He oft expressed great regret if somebody misquoted Ghalib or faiz or the other greats.. He recited them all verbatim…AAhh.. ‘Kahaan gaye woh log?” Dont make people like them anymore.

    Comment by kaveetaakau — February 20, 2007 @ 10:32 am | Reply

  117. @ Gajanan..It is a great idea..also provide ideas on execution..If one comes to think of it, with the number of supporters increasing every day here, one could formulate some kind of plan.

    Immediately what I would like to do is post a podcast or something on this site of his songs..either on this post or running on the site.. Can someone advise me on how to go about it> I can be quite technically challenged.

    It would be lovely to have a song playing like ”deewwaana hua pagal’., or ”aap yunhi agar’..on the site..

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 20, 2007 @ 10:58 am | Reply

  118. In an interview to Amin Sayani OP said that lyrics of the song PRITAM AAN MILO sung by C H ATMA was his own and not by his wife Saroj mohini NayyarHe had named his wife to HMV to get extra Rs 10/-for this lyric.For this OP got Rs 20/[10 for music direction+ 10 for lyrics]He told Amin Sayani that if he said that Lyrics was his he would not have been paid that Rs 10.Singer CH atma got 10/-for singing this song.This is based on kalyani raga and is tuned melodiously by the great master.

    Comment by gkiyer — February 21, 2007 @ 9:51 pm | Reply

  119. Thank you so much Siraj Sahib for the information on Rafi’s last song for OP Nayyar. It is too bad that at end of his carrer, he was mostly given low budget films, and the songs did not have the old magic.May be he did not have the same number of instruments left. Any comments?

    Comment by Asif — February 22, 2007 @ 12:13 am | Reply

  120. Kaveetaa kaul, this website has become so exciting to read and share our thoughts. Write-ups by Siraj sahib and Gajanan sahib have been very fascinating.I cannot wait to see and read the forthcoming book by Siraj sahib. May God give him the strength to complete the book the soonest.

    Kaveetaa,you have been like a soul in the body of this website for reaching to most of us. keep it up !!!
    It is so true Great men shine when they are no more with us. This is so true for Nayyar Sahib.I could never imagine there would be so many others beside me who loved his music so much. He and his works will live for all times to come.
    Ashraft

    Comment by Ashraft — February 23, 2007 @ 12:47 pm | Reply

  121. BABUJI (OP NAYYAR SAHEB),

    BORN AS AN AVATAR OF MUSIC PASSED ON AS AN AVATAR REJOICE THAT HE HAS TOUCHED OUR LIVES FOREVER
    HIS STATEMENT THAT HIS MUSIC WAS CREATED IN THE PRESNCE OF GOD AND HIS OWN DEPTHS STANDS
    AS THE ONLY TRUTH THAT IS THERE APART FROM HIS IMMORTAL MUSIC

    Comment by uma shankar vajpeyi — February 24, 2007 @ 2:35 am | Reply

  122. Thanks so much for that tid bit Mr. Iyer..Its so good to feel in touch with all of you who have such detailed and interesting information on the life of Nayyar saheb and ‘those’times, which seem so far away..almost unreal..Rs 10..for a song.

    My father Mr. Chandar Oberoi too used to often speak of it. He and Mr. Nayyar are from the same place in Pakistan called Chakwal..hence their friendship was almost akin to brotherly love. My father is no more, hence I could not really fill in any gaps. But as a poet who took it up as a hobby he and Nayyar saheb shared memories.. I remember the parties at our house with all these talented people coming often..like Kishore Kumar, B.R. Chopra, Ashok Kumar, Majrooh Sultanpuri, Sahir Ludhianvi, ..so many of them..It used to be Mushaira time with music and shairi..galore.Although my father never touched alcohol,he readily served it for a few..In fact everybody often teased Papa that how could he be a poet if he did not consume ‘madira’.. but my father never relented. You can read more of him here.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 24, 2007 @ 9:02 am | Reply

  123. Ashraft saheb,

    Your kind words mean a lot.. I often have tears on reading or writing here..Time is great University.It gives you a lot but when it takes away a loved one you are allowed to be left with nothing but memories and are forced to salute Time. Going back and reliving life through Nayyar sahebs compositions is the thread which binds us to that part of life which is gone but not dead..its palpably alive and throbbingly fresh ..one hopes to keep it this way.

    It is not me, Sir, but all of you who are the kind, loving souls of this space..your contribution and energy keeps it going from strength to strength.. just as perhaps how Nayyar saheb would have liked it to be..

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 24, 2007 @ 9:12 am | Reply

  124. Nearly four weeks have passed since our friend O.P. Nayyar has left his earthly home. I never met him in person. However, when the news on his demise reached me, I felt as though I lost one of my family members. I am still in pain.

    However, I am available to join hands with other fans and contribute in any way to keep OP’s name and memories alive.

    I am looking for a song sung by Asha. It goes some thing like ” O Gori sharam au na, hum sai kahato jara, baath kya kya hoi, raat kaise kathi”. If any one of you have this song, please let me know.

    I look forward to participating more in sharing information and songs of O.P.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — February 25, 2007 @ 8:25 am | Reply

  125. I am thrilled to see so many fans of O.P.Nayyar posting their eulogies on his songs. I too am a Die-hard fan of OP, immersed
    in my youth in the flood of his most ceative and distinctive outpourings from his baton.
    I too want to share my nostalgic feelings and pay my tributes to that rythm king who is no more.
    I write down here many of those feelings which come flooding down memory lane.
    Pl. allow me to stress one point to his great credit. No other composer gave so many wonderful songs in so many low rated films as OP , that too without Lata. Every song of his was unique in one way or other and let us not apply the usual yardsticks of popularity, Binaka awards etc to his songs.
    Many writers before me have already mentioned the merits of many well-known songs. while fully agreeing with all those opinions, i would like to deviate slightly and bring to notice many other less known songs, less often talked
    about by fans of later generation.
    Let me begin with his very early films. “Ai dil hai deewane” from Baaz by Geetha. He was already giving Geetha a new style of singing which was to make her very popular. How many twists and turns he made her go through!! And the Talat piece “Mujhe dekho hasrat”, a haunting melody from the same film.
    Then let me recall the 4 great songs of the obscure Mangu. ” Man more
    gaa” was in a class by itself, very enticing song laced with accordion music. “Dol mere man pyarse”and exhillerating piece of composition and singing by any standard. Shamshad has alwyas a happy tone. Hear it in “Jara pyar karle babu”nicely blended with piano and saxophone musical intrerludes. and lastly from that same film a sweet melodious duet “Bol pardeisia”

    Let me not forget to mention one song from Qaidi which is very rarely heard. It goes something like this…. “Taana naadir naa tana tatani…. Be dard preet nahin jaani” by Asha and Usha (I dont have this song and will be indebted to any one who can send). A wonderul claasical No. from one who doesnt know saregama. The same film has “Kuch to aisi baat kar jaalim” by
    Asha, with deceptive pathos attracts us to hear it again and again.
    I would like to mention a few others, before i close this already too long post. Melodious Suraiya no.”Soyee hai kahaan” from Mr. Lambu, “Jhuka jhuka hai” By Mukhesh and Geetha from Miss coca cola, “Gamm nahin kar mushkura”, the exhillerating piece from choomantar(among other great songs of that film), “Thodasa dil lagaake de…tarara rara rampam” By shamshad and Rafi from Musafirkhana, real mood elevator, really made us jump and dance in the theatre, that sober melody from Akalmand, “Khoobsoorat saathi”. Well, there are many many more… , i can talk for hours at a stretch extolling the greatness of each of those. More because, i had the benefit of the first impact in my youth, as Nayyar gave his most innovative creations in
    those films with stars like sheikh mukthar, Bhagvan, Johny walker etc.
    If any one is interested to share his liking for OP with others kindred spirit, i will be willing to chat on yahoo or eamil
    me at: cumrao@yahoo.com
    Just one word Kavitaji and Hemantji: while going thro your posts, i came across the “mistake” in Piya piya piya in baapre baap. In the film, it was cleverly shown as mistake by chand usmani, who started to sing prmaturely, and Kishore shuts her up with his hand on her mouth.

    Comment by curao — February 25, 2007 @ 7:50 pm | Reply

  126. I am ready to be corrected, if there are any mistakes in my comment of Feb. 25th or words in the songs. Pl. attribute them to my old age (67) and to my lack of knowledge of Hindi.
    In the list of Nayyar’s films posted by someone. the film Milap was included. Milap. as far as I can remeber, had N.Dutta as composer.
    In another post, i read that “Thandi thandi hawa”, as the only Asha-Geetha duet under OP. Again as far as my memory goes there are at least 2 more songs: “Jhuki Jhuki nazar” in the same film Johny walker and another song from Mr.Quartoon M.A. I forgot the first line of this song but the 2nd line was:”Tum kitna beautifulhai kitna wonderful”. Any one is free to point out if iam wrong.
    curao

    Comment by curao — February 26, 2007 @ 6:06 pm | Reply

  127. Curaoji
    We are really proud of your contribution. You must help in getting all the songs to be put in the web site fr OPNji. it should be the mother of all web sites as far as film music is concerned. There are many personalities in the Indian heritage who have not had training in their field of excellence, for example Kavi Kalidas, who was not considered by anybody as of even average intelligence. But look what Kalidas wrote. Incomparable poetry in Sanskrit. Prabhu ki Lila is something one cannot fathom. OPN was such a man, living upto to the great quote of Swami Vivekananda , that every soul is potentially divine. Woh kya kehte hai ” Ubhar aana Chahiye talent , which is what OPNji did. He must have faced a lot of trouble for this for sure. It would be interesting to know from someone, the resistance , he faced from the trained ones and the established ones. I have no idea of that. Someone should write on this. OPNji could be an inspiration for many who seek a career in music.

    Comment by gajanan — February 27, 2007 @ 5:12 am | Reply

  128. I am a regular viewer of this site and if this is so useful and interesting then how much the website on OPNji which is to be developed ? Here I am mentioning another film which was the last release of OPNji not “ZID” in 1994 as mentioned somewhere. There is a film called “Mangni” which was released in the year 1995-96. The film was the production of “Lalitashree combines” of south India. I do not remember exactly how many songs are there but may be 6 to 7 and all are sung by veteran singers of south SP Balasubramanyam and S Janaki. All the songs are penned by Qamar Jalalabadi which are very rich in melody and OPNji scored the music very differently. For last 10 years I am trying to get the DVD/CD of film only for songs and background music. Can enybody having the songs ? Or anybody can help me to get the same ?

    with regards,

    G N Murty
    Rajahmundry, Andhra Pradesh
    India

    Comment by G N MURTY — February 27, 2007 @ 10:33 am | Reply

  129. Its amazing ..the wealth of information there is available here on Nayyar Saheb ..it only goes to prove that talent finds its connoisseurs, across barriers, even of generations.

    Krishna Baru welcome..We look forward to your views. The song you have mentioned and the query relating to it, will be answered sooner or later.. the ‘gyaanis ‘ visiting here are unique and knowledgable.

    Curao ji,

    Your contribution , like Gajanan has mentioned is unique.. You are so much senior than us and therefore have provided us with more than we could have gathered on our own. Welcome Sir, and thank you.

    Gajanan,

    You have with your touching comments and insights, love for Nayyar sahib and closeness to his soul, become an invaluable part of this post..Cannot thank you enough.

    @ G.N. Murthy..one needs blessings and good wishes for the endeavour. Thanks for your kind words.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 28, 2007 @ 6:00 pm | Reply

  130. Dear Kaveeta

    Writing from New Delhi.

    Please call me at Hilton Towers early Sat March 3 morning and then we could schedule a time to meet in the evening.

    Thanks

    Siraj

    Comment by Siraj Khan — February 28, 2007 @ 9:00 pm | Reply

  131. G N Murty Ji. Yes, Mangi, was 0PN’s last film. One of the song of this movie is my all-time favourite. Murtyji ,if you read my post here in Sachiniti ( number 64), I had mentioned about Mangni.There is yet another film that was released in the ninetees, other than Nishchy and Zid. I have all the songs of Mangni and also of the other movie (that I am forgetting the name), back in Pakistan. I am not in my home country ,right now. However, I will contact my son back home if he can seach my cds and send it across so I can send it to you .

    Comment by Ashraft — March 1, 2007 @ 6:45 am | Reply

  132. Dear Siraj Saheb,

    Will surely do so.

    Regards

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 1, 2007 @ 9:03 am | Reply

  133. Dear Ashrafat Sir,

    I have no words, but thank you very much for your kind reply and assurance to send the copy of CD to me.

    with regards,

    G N Murty
    Rajahmundry
    Andhra Pradesh

    Comment by G N MURTY — March 1, 2007 @ 3:45 pm | Reply

  134. Dear Kaveeta Kaul

    Mestro Nayyar gave an interview on 15th Dec, at banglore. He spoke lot of things about his personal relationship with Asha. I think it is usefull to Siraj who is writing his biography. I would like to share this piece of information with the fans and whoever is interested they can contact me. Perhaps this is the last interview which he has given to the press.
    psm_try@yahoo.co.in

    Comment by Mool Bharati Prakash — March 1, 2007 @ 7:07 pm | Reply

  135. Thank you Gajaananji and Kaveetaji for your apreciation of my little coments on OPN songs.
    I will do whatever i can do to contribute to the website you are planning. However iam not a coputer expert.
    Yes, I really take great plesure in recalling his films and songs apreciating the nuances in music , intonation, picturization etc.. Most of his songs have indelible association with events in my own life: like when i heard that song , where, when realtive to my academic activites, which theatre etc. That is what makes OPN so dear and special to me. Somehow, such feelings of
    elation and nostalgia are not aroused when i hear the songs of other great composers, Though they have also made that period 1950-70, about which we can say “when music was king” . Then after all it was OPN who brought music to the forefront to evaluate films in those days.
    I would take this occassion to mention 2 songs of his and invite comments of other fans.
    “Yahan hum vaham tum”, by Geetha and Rafi in shrimati 420, especially the music part in the beginning and interludes. Was it violin?
    The 2nd is “Kabhi andhera Kabhi ujala” title song ny Asha. Perhaps the most soulful song ever composed by him. Its very unusual song for him. And compare that with “Na jaao saiyyan” in Saheb bibi. I find both very similar except in the slight diffrences in intonation and twists of Geetha’s tone in contrast to Asha’a.
    curao

    Comment by curao — March 1, 2007 @ 7:26 pm | Reply

  136. Most music directors (MDs) of the past had mastery in one or more musical instruments.
    Laxmikant had mastery in mandolin, Pyarelal in violin, RD in mouth organ. Nayyar’s mastery was in harmonium and piano. I’ve heard that he had personally played harmonium in a few of his own compositions (cannot confirm though) such as Leke pehla pehla pyar (CID), Kajra mohabat wala (Kismet), Bekanar ki chundri od ke (Pran jaye per wachan na jaye), etc.

    Piano was one of Nayyar’s favorite instruments and he had used it in many of his compositions including his last films (Nischay/Zid, 92/94). Most MDs have considered piano as extinct since long. Nayyar was quite knowledgeable in piano and has created some wonderful compositions with piano accompaniment.

    Take for instance the song “Jo diya tha tum ne mujko” sung by Mahendra Kapoor and Hemant Kummar in the film Sambandh. The song starts with a simple musical piece in piano – an Arpeggio in E flat below the middle C (I didn’t know this until my daughter pointed it to me). This is a two octave Arpeggio that is repeated a few times in the beginning. The piano piece is not complicated but what’s interesting is that that the whole composition is based on the notes of the E flat Arpeggio. Nayyar has wonderfully used Mahendra Kapoor starting at E flat above the middle C with “jis baug may mai janma khela” and then beginning with the mukhada “Jo diya tha tum ne mujko” on E flat below the middle C. Notice the other instruments wonderfully used in this song – violin, surling, dholak #31 and #43, tabla, flute, etc.

    Comment by Hemant — March 2, 2007 @ 4:35 am | Reply

  137. I am also a die-hard fan of OP .

    I grew up hearing and singing Malayalam songs. It was way back in 1971 that I happened to see his film “Mere Sanam” from a cinema theatre in Mysore. I noticed that all the songs (Pukarta chala hoon main; Humdam mere maan bhi jao; Huve hai thum pe aashiqe; Roka kayi bar meine dil ki umang ko; Jaayiye aap kahan jayenge; Tukde hai mere dil ki, etc) of the film, which had been released about four or five years ago and which was being screened again, were extremely melodious. From that day I started listening to Hindi film songs in radio programmes, in order to acquaint myself with the works of various Hindi film music composers. Within a short period I found that more than 90% of the film songs for which OP composed music were true melodies and thus began my admiration for OP ! On one occasion, some of my Malayalee friends, who came to meet me at my residence in Bangalore in 1974/1975, expressed surprise over my selection of OP as my favorite Music Director. I was wondering what to do when one of them asked me if I could accompany him and his other friends and spend some time at his flat. I readily agreed and there, at my friend’s flat, I found a film journal in Malayalam. While glancing through the journal, to my utter surprise, I came across a news captioned : “ O.P.Nayyar, who is known as the Emperor of Hindi film music, escaped from a motor accident” – referring to an accident involving the car in which OP and Asha Bhosle were returning after recording a song for the film “Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye”. Just the description of OP as the ‘Emperor of Hindi film music’ was sufficient for me to convince my friends about the superiority of OP’s music.

    I do not have words to adequately express my sorrow on his passing away. It is, however, some consolation to know that there are innumerable persons who grieve over his sad demise.

    Apart from Runa Laina, OP had composed music for two other ghazal singers separately, viz. Ashok Khosla and Peenaz Masani. One has to hear these cassettes to appreciate how well he succeeded in giving his famous ‘OP touch’ to each song/ghazal sung by these two artistes. In fact, it would be a good idea to list OP’s songs by various singers because that would enable us to know that there is not a singer who has not done his or her best for each song sung under OP’s baton.

    Asha Bhosle has sung several classical songs also under OP’s music direction. In fact, Raju Bharatan has listed some of them in a cover story on Asha Bhosle, captioned “50 years of playback singing”, published in a complimentary supplement with the “Screen” magazine, called ‘Screen Channel’, dated June 2, 1995.

    I take this opportunity to convey my regards and best wishes to Kaveeta ji, all OP fans and all those who are trying to perpetuate his memory.

    Keloth Macheendran,
    ( e-mail ID )
    “Surabhi”, Angadithazha,Badagara-673105,
    Kozhikode district, Kerala

    Comment by Keloth Macheendran — March 2, 2007 @ 10:59 pm | Reply

  138. Hi Anu Sen,

    Your reminiscences about O P Nayyar are really beautiful…

    Do post some more of your memories (as a child) about him. We would simply love to hear more about him (during those days) and his family.

    Also, I would like to offer my condolences to his biological family. Your post really shed some light on their personalities, which is very refreshing, especially in view of all the judgemental assumptions.

    Comment by Muks — March 3, 2007 @ 4:53 pm | Reply

  139. Keloth Macheendran,

    hamadam mere, maan bhii jaao
    kahanaa mere pyaar kaa
    are halkaa-halkaa, surkh labo.n pe
    ra.ng to hai iqaraar kaa – 2
    are hamadam mere

    hoy
    pyaar muhobbat kii havaa, pahale chalatI hai
    phir ik laT inakaar kii, rukh pe DhalatI hai – 2
    ye sach hai kam se kam, tuu ai mere sanam
    laTe.n chehare se sarakaao, tamannaa aa.Nkhe malatI hai
    haay, hamadam mere

    haay
    tumase mil-mil ke sabaa, duniyaa mahakaaye
    bAdal ne chorii kiye, A.Nchal ke sa.ng – 2
    ye sach hai kam se kam, tuu ai mere sanam
    churaa luu.n mai.n bhii do jalave, meraa aramaan bhii rah jaaye
    haay, hamadam mere

    These lines below are great specially after phir ek Lat inkaar ki , what singing by Rafi and matching music by OPN. We had a group when we were young , after exams we used to play this song and dance. Stress gayab.

    {{{hoy
    pyaar muhobbat kii havaa, pahale chalatI hai
    phir ik laT inakaar kii, rukh pe DhalatI hai – 2
    ye sach hai kam se kam, tuu ai mere sanam
    laTe.n chehare se sarakaao, tamannaa aa.Nkhe malatI hai}}}

    Comment by gajanan — March 6, 2007 @ 4:17 am | Reply

  140. @ Mool Bharati Ji,

    I will write to you shortly and then maybe we can publish your last interview with Nayyar saheb on Sachiniti.. I am sure there are a good number of us here interested in knowing his views and thoughts, at this stage of his life..Thanks

    @ Curao ji,

    I cannot seem to recall the song you are referring to from Kabhi andhera…such a pity.. I would have liked to compare it with ‘na jaayon saiiyan’..another great composition liltingly rendered by Geeta Dutt.

    @ Hemant,

    Your posts as usual always a delight. The mention of arpeggio ..I am sure he had no inkling of the technical aspects of his compositions.. He composed as if blessed by the Gods to create and ascribe to music a new connotation…amazing.

    The piano was such a trademark..unmistakably Op nayyar.. In fact Rd Burman too has used it occasionally as a majoor accompaniment..One which I can recall off hand is the asthayee of ‘pyaar deewaana hota hai mastana hot hai”..from Kati Patang.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 6, 2007 @ 2:05 pm | Reply

  141. @ Keeloth Machhendran..

    Welcome ..Yes we are quite a motley crowd here at Sachiniti sharing a unique bond, developed and stengthened through our admiration and respect for O.P.Nayyar.

    The songs from Mere Sanam, which you have mentioned are among my favourites..Its amazing, today there may be a song or two which you like in a film, but with Nayyar Saheb, as in the case of Mere sanam, all of them were stupendous in their popularity and in their compositions. I think besides him there was S.D. Burman and Pancham da, who also gave us music which rarely seemed to miss the mark..as also Naushad saheb, Khayyam, Jaidev..to name a few other stalwarts.

    One had heard of a new singer Dilraj Kaur from Punjab, who had adapted herself to the mellifluous characterisation Of Asha bais voice, and who Op saheb had included in quite a number of his later compositions, post his split with Asha Bhonsale. Dilraj too I think had unmistakable talent .

    I have not heard of Peenaaz Massaani and Op sahebs album..it must truly have been a worth while hear. Incidentally Peenaaz has also sung a number of ghazals penned by my late father.

    Regards

    Kaveetaa kaul

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 6, 2007 @ 2:17 pm | Reply

  142. Friends,

    Siraj Khan was in Mumbai recently, and we met up . It was nice to chat, exchange information and get to recognise each others passion for music and the high regard for the maestro. He informed me of his meeting with Nayyar sahebs near and dear ones at Thane,and the fond memories they shared. His book will contain all of this and much more I presume. It is always so delightful to meet up with those who across all boundaries come together in a space merely because of a shared passion..the net has been a unique achievement of this century which has brought the world closer in more ways than one..Its this and such instances which make me feel gratified that I embarked on my blogging journey..

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 6, 2007 @ 2:30 pm | Reply

  143. Kaveetaji,
    I can send you that title song of Kabhi andhera kabhi ujala. but how i dont know I can send in yahoo as an attachment.
    I too admire na jaao saiyyan and geetha’s rendering of it. And i am not casting aspersions on Hemant kumar for copying it either. May be both of them used same raga. However, one has to hear carefully to recognise the similarity in the basic structure of the songs.
    No wonder you dont recall that song of Kabhi andhera…. . I t is very rarely heard since the time of controversial release of that flop film.
    curao

    Comment by curao — March 6, 2007 @ 9:58 pm | Reply

  144. Thanks to all of you for sharing all kinds of information on O.P. I left India in 1971 for U.S. and have had very limited access to the news in respect to O.P. A few years back, I could not find much material but so much information is now available on my favourite music director. It gives me so much pleasure to read all this mail.

    I am willing to pay to add to my collection.

    May be I can meet some of you in my next trip to India.

    With warm regards,

    Krishna Baru

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 7, 2007 @ 8:22 am | Reply

  145. The way OPNji made Mahendra Kapoor sing was something nobody could have achieved. MK was always a singer associated with a loud voice, which was used by Manoj Kumar very well for patriotic songs. But for OPN MK sang ” Baharein Phir Bhi Aaayegi and Thumara Chahane wala Khuda ki Duniya me. Cannot fathom MK could sing so well. Regarding music directors , then and now, Kaveeta ji , there is a lot of difference. Music dominates words , and probably Lucknow, say UP, has been replaced by other cities in lyric writing. There is a lot of rusticness and synthetic stuff in the lyrics compared to the softness of the yesteryears. For example Tere Ghar ke Samne ” Dil ka Bhanwar Kare Pukar …” What lyrics and the softness it emanates. SD Burman was a master of ceremonies in this. He used Rafi very well. Guide ke gane is a testimony to this. Burman Sr used even Kishore very well for his softies. Gham aaj Shayir hai….; In fact when I was in a function overseas , for an concert when ” Phoole ke Rang se” was sung on the stage , the whole audience started singing the song. Such was the power of their music and lyrics that it made one stop and think. OPN had high regard for SD Burman. I have read this somewhere. If somebody can point the reference it would be good. Lyrics are the most important aspect of a song to last long. The song by John Lennon ” Imagine” is still among the top five , because it has very powerful words , that you stop and think and say ” Duniya me kyo itna Jang hai”. Once I had gone to an Udipi restaurant. A very senior person, wanted extra sambhar for his dosa and requested the waiter to bring one cup. The cup was there , but the man was angry and was murmuring to me ” Yeh Sambhar tho aaj kaal ka Hindi picture ka lyrics jaisa hai” I was, sitting opposite to him, asked him ” Kyo ji Kya hua”.
    “Arre Pura Paani hai , No dhal at all.
    Dhal yeh song ka lyrics jaisa hai.
    Without Dhal Sambhar me kya maza, just like water , brother, like modern Hindi film lyrics”

    So, bring back the dhal into Hindi film songs.

    Comment by gajanan — March 7, 2007 @ 8:40 am | Reply

  146. Dear Gajananji,

    I fully agree with your opinion that both OP and SD were able to harness the singers’ voices and deliver very soft and melodious numbers. Even before SD discovered Kishore, it was OP who used Kishore extensively. Turning to MK’s association with O.P., please do not forget the two numbers from the movie “Kahin Din Kahin Raat”. I have the old 78 RPM record that has these two songs. In my opinion, the best song of MK for OP was “Mera Pyar whoi hi ki, mar kar be thum ko” from Yeh Raat Phir Na Ayegi.

    Krishna Baru

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 7, 2007 @ 10:17 am | Reply

  147. While talking of Kishore and OP. let us not forget the memorable duet from Naya Andaaz, “Meri needone me tum” with , of all female singers, Shamshad. it is a perennial favourite of mine, used to often broadcasted by radio ceylon in one program or other. one of the sweetest ever by OP.

    Comment by curao — March 7, 2007 @ 7:08 pm | Reply

  148. curao ji,

    this song you have mentioned is also my favourite.Shamshad begum was not a singer i liked very much but just like mahendra kapoor it is op ji who made such melody that even they voices sounded so good.

    Comment by raja harishchandra — March 7, 2007 @ 7:54 pm | Reply

  149. Surma Mera Nirala by Kishore Kumar, film Kabhi Andhera Kabhi Ujala, Music by OPN, Lyrics Majrooh. Here OPN has turned Kishore’s eccentricity into greatness.

    Comment by gajanan — March 8, 2007 @ 5:04 am | Reply

  150. tumhAre husn kI tArIf AInA bhI kare
    to mai.n tumhArI qasam hai ke to.D dU.N usako
    by SS Bihari, MK sings this lyrics very well in KDKR. What Kambakt Ishq can do , break mirrors and what level of attachment expressed in words , music and the jasbad is ka-mal in these two lines. MK has sung it very well under OPN. Yeh hai sambhar ka dhal

    Comment by gajanan — March 8, 2007 @ 5:12 am | Reply

  151. Can someone clarify on this point?There was an early film in OPN’s carreer, perhaps before Aar paar, for which OP and Roshan gave music together. Was it Mehbooba?

    Comment by curao — March 11, 2007 @ 7:51 pm | Reply

  152. Harischhndraji,
    I am glad that you too like that song from Naya anddaz. But, as far as Shamshad is concerned, Let us give her due credit. She sang such memorable songs for OP; like, Kabhi aar paar, Booz mera kya naamre, Reshmi salwaar(with Asha), Jara pyar karle babu(from Mangu). She too contributed to the richness of hindi film music in that golden era. Many songs sung by her for Naushad and C.Ramchandra were great hits in those days before 1950. Bachpan ke din of Deedar, Mohobbat karne waalon ne and Oh dilwaalon dilka lagana, both from Patanga are some examples. She has a natural mirthful jolly tone which suits very well for Qawalis. well, any way we all have different tastes and one cant really explain why a particular song appeals appeals to one.

    Comment by curao — March 11, 2007 @ 8:38 pm | Reply

  153. I am a late comer to this blog. I realize that my collection of O.P.’s compositions is not very significant compared with others. Can we set up a centralized association or library and fans would register and list their personal information and their collection of songs? We can take it one step further by having periodical newsletters.

    We will leave the exchange to be worked out between the individuals. The individuals can mutually agree on how they would like to share individual collections and if any monetary consideration would be involved.

    I am willing to share my personal information such as, postal address, phone number, and e-mail to encourage the free flow of information and strengthen rapport among the fans and friends of our beloved music maestro. The best tribute we can pay to O.P. would be to develop and maintain strong communication and foster strong bond among ourselves. We want to keep fond memories of O.P. and his contributions alive for present and future generations.

    I look forward to hearing comments from all of you.

    Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 11, 2007 @ 9:35 pm | Reply

  154. Curao and Harishchandra ji,

    I fully concur with both of you that Shamsad Begum was super in the Naya Andaaz duet with Kishore. Another lilting duet composed by O.P. utilizing Shamsad’s voice was from Howrah Bridge (Rafi being the other voice). The lyrics of this song goes something like this ” Main jan gai thuja sajna, math chod more baya”.

    I hope the idea of having a fan club and may be a web site dedicated solely to O.P. would find favour with all fans. Siraj and Kavita ji have already put in substantial effort and can lead us.

    Thnanks for your time.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 12, 2007 @ 9:37 am | Reply

  155. Hi Gajanan,

    Oh Yes..the falling standards of lyrics has been a sore point. Its reflective of the pop culture and need to simplify things for easy assinmilation..In the good ole days it wasnt just the lyrics but stories of films which had substance, poignancy and meaning. In fact a majority of serials made today are ‘lifts’ from the story lines of old films, recycled with glitz , modenised an presented.. re-hashed creativity..plagiarism is a norm more than an exception today.

    Raja Mehdi ali khan, Majrooh, Sahir Ludhianvi, Kaifi azmi, Shailendra and his simplicity…How can one forget the alluding to death renedered do simply in ‘sajan re jhooth mat bolo khuda ke paas jaana hai, na haathi hai na ghoda hai wahan paidal hi jaana hai’..the particular use of words since it was a rustic bullock cart owner singing it.. This was the extent to which detail was respected.

    And the anecdote of sambar was hillarious as also true.

    Hi Krishna,

    I have never really been a great fan of Mk’s style of singing especially when most of it had to do with robust vocal chords. But the song you mentioned is an example of how melody can transform or rather make acceptable any tenor of voice.. ‘mera pyar wooh hai ki’ was lovely.

    We need to keep the effort going to keep alive his memory and his songs. I have made this post a permanent feature on my home page, just so that the mention of O.P.Nayyar is always in continuum on Sachiniti. I am in the process of creating a compilation of his songs which are my personal favourites and post them here on a song widget, mp3.. Any thing else , you all recommend I will be only too willing to comply with.

    Regards

    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 12, 2007 @ 10:21 am | Reply

  156. Hello, krishna baruji, Kaveethaji, and other fans of OP,
    I fully and most gladly welcome the idea mooted by you all, that we should make every effort to enable exchange of OP’s songs, so that our collections can be nmore complete than they are now. I have nearly 350 songs, all in mp3. i too am willing to be fully open for email adress etc. I only request that someone explain to me if there is another way of exchanging apart from email, if ther is one. My email address is. any one is welcome to mail me, and i can send the song(s) they want. and of course i expect that my requests too will be acceeded to. Fuirther, We can even chat in yahoo if people have time and interest for rapid exchange of opinions. I dont suffer from lack of time , as I am a retired person, with lots of unquenched thirst for OP’s songs
    I have all the songs of the Telugu film “Neerajanam”, perhaps his last film ever. Most of the songs were hits in telugu and were much acclaimed by music pundits too. I can send them to any one who is interested.
    I dont have any songs from last films in Hindi, Nischay and Zid. I would apreciate very much if any one can send them to me.
    Among the old films, i miss many songs from Johny wlker’s films: Johny walker, Mai baap and Mr quartoon M.A. And does any have the solo version by Asha of “Raat bharka hai mehmaan andhera” of sone ki chidia and “jaan saketo” by Rafi in Ustaad? I do have still many gaps in my collction, which I hope to fill up with the help of other fans. I am only too willing to share my songs with others.
    Thanks to all of you

    Comment by curao — March 13, 2007 @ 12:39 pm | Reply

  157. Lyrics can never be written in fast paced manner. It has to be reflective. For instance ” Yeh Mahalo, Yeh Banawat Ki Duniya, Yeh Duniya agar mil bhi jaye tho Kya hai” made even Pandit Nehru think as well as “Yeh Mere Watan ke Logo ” made Pandit Nehru shed tears. The present day lyrics of Hindi films is written in a hurried manner. This is one of the reasons why AR Rahman , though a good music director whose songs will not hold water , because of substandard words in his songs. Just making loud noises will not do.
    This is very good lyrics
    OPN’s music. Ek Baar Muskaro Do

    muze naa milee jo wo khushee toone paayee
    aye dost mubaarak ho tuze pyaar kee shahanaaee
    duaan mere dil kee daaman mein naa samaaye
    tuze pyaar mile itanaa jeewan mein naa samaaye.

    A movie which which will eternally remain in the hearts of moviegoers for music and lyrics is ” The Guide” SD Burman & Shailendra have combined so well in this. Wah !! . When I hear these songs , abhi bhi , goosebumps aati hai.

    Without good lyrics , the present day music directors , will have to cover up for shoody lyrics by their phuntastic instruments and it will take them many autumns , summers , winters and monsoons ( an integral part of Indian psyche) to reach the standards of good combinations which SD Burman and OP Nayyar had.

    Comment by gajanan — March 15, 2007 @ 8:47 am | Reply

  158. Absolutely right Gajananji. Good lyrics is very important for any long standing song and that is the reason why the music of our very own O P Nayyar ji, Shankar Jaikishan ji , Naushad Saab, Madan Mohan ji, SD Burman ji, RD Burman ji, Roshan Sahab, C Ramachandra ji are still in our hearts and we forgot the music of Nadeem Shravan , Anu Mallick, AR Rahaman etc very soon.

    I would like to mention about a unreleased film of OPN ji, ” Jaane Meheboob” (1987-88) and if you listen to the six songs of this film definitely you will enjoy. All the songs are very very rich in melody and all the songs are with very good lyrics by Noor Devasi. Why I am mentioning this because all the songs were recorded during the period 1987-88 when our hindi film music was undergoing at its worst period and very cheap disco type of music was around at that time. Evergreen OPNji never cared for that trend and scored lovely romantic songs which are rendered by Mahendra Kapoor and Anuradha Poudwal. I am very fortunate to get a cassette of this unreleased film “Jaane Meheboob” starring Raj babbar and Poonam Dhillon from kolkata. I don’t know how to upload the songs in the website and if anybody helps me I can do this for all fans and music lovers.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — March 15, 2007 @ 10:10 am | Reply

  159. Murty Garu or Murty ji,

    (For those who do not speak Telugu, the word Garu is equivalent of ji).

    I am glad to hear that you have a cassette of Jaane Mehboob songs. During one of my visits to India, my sister mentioned it to me that OP and Anuradha Poudwal teamed up to produce some melodious songs. I inquired music stores in Hyderabad but I had no luck in locating these songs.

    As very few of us have the songs of the movie “Jaane Mehboob”, please make several copies of the cassette and keep them safe. I myself would like to have one for my collection.

    If any one would like to correspond with me,my e-mail: krbaru@hotmail.com

    I am originally from Hyderabad though I currently live with my family in Bloomington, Illinois (U.S.). I will try to see if I can locate a few fans of O.P. in my adopted land and bring them into our fold.

    With warm regards.

    Krishna Baru

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 15, 2007 @ 11:26 am | Reply

  160. Murti Ji, I’m so excited to hear about this unreleased movie “Jaane Mehaboob” that I can’t wait to get hold of the songs. Please, please upload them somewhere on the web soon so we all can hear the songs. You d’Man!!

    Curao, I’ve pasted the link to the songs of Nischay for you. In case if the link doesn’t work, then go to Raaga.com and search the Movie Index: http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/H000769.html

    Finally, I have to say that it’s always wonderful to read your comments Gajanan! You write with passion and include examples of song lyrics, etc. Brilliant!!

    Nayyar sahab was genius. I only recently heard his songs from the film Nerajanam (Tulegu) and am already hooked to it. More amazing is that my 12-year old is also hooked to the songs.

    Comment by Hemant — March 15, 2007 @ 9:16 pm | Reply

  161. Hemant, thanks for the compliments. You need not have a large number of films as a music director or large number of songs as a lyric writer. One example is OPN and the other is Hemant Kumar. Bees Saal Baad ” Bekaraar Karte hua” , even after Sau Saal Baad it will be on everybody’s lips. Hemant Kumar’s ” Na Thum Hamahe Jano” from Baat Ek Raat Ki esp the lines

    “ye mausam ye raat chup hai, ye ho.nTho.n kii baat chup hai
    khaamoshii sunaane lagii, hai daastaa.n ) – (2)
    nazar ban gaI hai, dil kii zubaa.n
    na tum … Hemantda sings it so well , that melancholy, this is called quality. MSultanpuri by saying Khamoshi Sunane Lagi has made people think, while singing. The point I wnat to drive is, OPN had about 75 films ( the number may be plus or minus), Hemantda had very few films as music director and he sang very few film songs , but some of them are immortal like the ones of OPN. Quality always truimphs over quantity.

    Comment by gajanan — March 16, 2007 @ 1:54 pm | Reply

  162. Curao,
    On rhapsody.com you can listen to 25 songs free, but after that you have to pay to listen.
    Attached is the link to the web site that provides the song Raat Bhar ka hai mehmaan andhara.

    http://www.rhapsody.com/opnayyar2/sonekichidiya

    Comment by Hemnat — March 17, 2007 @ 1:43 am | Reply

  163. Murti Garu,
    I am living not far feom you, in vijayawada. Iam a retired person, so, I have time.
    I too am eager to collect the songs of Jaane mehboob, tried but could not succeed. It is more difficult In AP to get old hindi songs.
    I will gladly guide you to upload songs and if you already do not know, how to convret songs from audio cassettes to mp3 form.
    The fist step before you can upload is to transfer the songs from casstte to computer. The raw songs(WAV format), as they are transferred ussally take too much space(30 to 35 MB). You can convert them to mp3 at the same time as tansfering from cassettes to 1/11 of that space i.e., about 3 to 3.5 mB. this way you can store more songs in your computer. After that you can upload them or burn on to a CD or DVD.
    If you are keen, to do that and want any more info , pl. email me at cumrao@yahoo.com.
    curao

    Comment by curao — March 17, 2007 @ 7:37 pm | Reply

  164. Gajananji,
    It was a wonderful comment you left on “Na tum hume jaano” and Hemant singing. The moment i hear the name of Hemant, I recall so many of his duets with various female singers, ranging from Sandhya mukherjee to Geetha to Lata. I dont find proper words to dwcribe them: Exquisitely sweet, Heavenly blissful, beyond words, Out of this world.
    I would like to mention some of such duets for my own pleasure in recalling them.: Yeh hansta hua from Ek Jhalak, Na yeh chand hoga from Shart, Tum aur hum from Fashion, Jaag darde ishq jaag from Anarkali, Gumsum sa yeh jahaan from shrimatiji, Ai sama unse kehjaraa from alibaba 40 thieves, Bahaaronse poochon from Fashion, Mushkrati hui chandni from Albeli, Tumhe chupkese from a film i forgot, Tumhe yaad hoga from Satta bazaar, neendna mujhko aaya from Post box 999, Halki chalki from Tangewale, and pehaps one of the best duets ever, Yeh raat yeh chandini phir kahaa….from Jaal and many more. I my self have about 60 duets.
    Hemant, Talat and to some extent Mukhesh seem to have that particular gifts while singing such sweet duets.
    The only set of songs that draw mw away from OPN are these. And my only regret about OPN is that he does not have many such duets.
    curao

    Comment by curao — March 17, 2007 @ 8:54 pm | Reply

  165. Hemantji,
    Thank you very much for the links you sent for Nischay songs and The Soneki chidiya song. You are so considerate to understand my hunger for OP’s songs.
    On first hearing, I found the Nischay songs lilting , but with a of whiff of his 1960 songs. I am sure i would like them on hearing a few times.
    Unfortunately, I could not hear Raat bharka hai from Rapsody, Because I am not in USA. It gave an error message that only US based people can access them.
    I think that both Rapsody and Raaga are only for hearing and do not allow downloading. Right?

    Comment by curao — March 18, 2007 @ 11:25 am | Reply

  166. Hello friends,

    I managed to locate a few songs on the video format from Op jis repertoire..It been loaded on the video collection you see on the top right of this page.. I began by downloading the videos of his songs, so please click on ‘view all’..Its such a pity that I could not find some more videos…efforts are on.. Maybe soon.

    Meanwhile I am in the process of trying to upload a player with his songs on this post..

    Loved the comments..and learnt something new each time..cannot thank you all enough.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 19, 2007 @ 11:24 am | Reply

  167. Kaveetaji,
    The videos of OPN are wonderfuld and thank you.
    I too have a good number of Video songs of his. pehaps 50 to 60. But I never tried to upload a video so far.
    Is it soemthing like i run the DVD in the DVD ROM, and copy them to my Desktop first and then upload them to Videopod. OR, can I directly upload from DVD itself from the ROM? Iam also not yet registered in Videopod.I think i have to register first and then upload. Am I right?

    Comment by curao — March 20, 2007 @ 7:14 pm | Reply

  168. You are right Curao ji.
    The songs on both Raaga and Rapsody are for listning only and cannot be downloaded electronically. As per Rapsody, I don’t know if it’s meant only for the US audiance.

    Comment by Hemant — March 20, 2007 @ 7:52 pm | Reply

  169. Still no statement from Gratitude. Chalo hum jara Ka-lam ko iste-mal karte hai.

    “aao huzuur tumko, sitaaro.n me.n le chaluu.N …
    ” OPN hai Sitaro.n.me , paar Zameen paar chamakta hua Sitara , kyo Khamosh hai”
    “Kaun Kahata hai, Khamoshi Sunane de-ge”
    Dil agar sach kahe , tho Zubaan bhi bol pade
    Woh jo sitara aasman paar hai, usi ki liye
    hum aage nikal pade , aur zamana peeche raha gaya”

    Comment by gajanan — March 21, 2007 @ 5:30 am | Reply

  170. The last lines in the previous Ka-lam baazi
    is from OPN music. The song is
    ” Aaaj koyi……. Hum aage nikal pade , peeche zamana raha gaya, Hai …” It is sung by AB. I forget the film . A wonderful song

    Comment by gajanan — March 21, 2007 @ 6:49 am | Reply

  171. Gajanan ji, the song you mentioned is from film “Sawan ki Ghata”

    G N Murty
    Rajahmundry

    Comment by G N MURTY — March 21, 2007 @ 10:08 am | Reply

  172. Cu Rao ji,

    The method I know is register, download and upload on videopod.. It would be great if you could share them..perhaps put them in a category of Op Nayyar songs and then we can all see them.

    Gajanan,

    The song you are referring to is

    ‘Aaj koi pyaar se dil ki baatein keh gaya..hai

    Main to aage badh gayee peechhe zamaana reh gaya’..right?

    its from ‘Saawan Ki ghata’ the same movie which has ‘Haule haule’ and ‘Zulfon ko hatade chehre se thoda sa ujaala hone de’

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 21, 2007 @ 10:12 am | Reply

  173. Friends,
    I will be grateful if any one enlightens me on these songs: I believe they are OP’s, but I do not know from which films. Also correct me if some of them are not OPN’s.
    1. Badee mushkilse by MK
    2.Dhir tu mai raat jawan by Geetha
    3. Dilki girah khol by Asha
    4. dilki hui Ghataye by Rafi-Asha
    5.Pyarme khokar bangaye hum…… din tara tararam by Rafi
    6. Itni jaldi kya hai by Asha
    7. Jaan Gaye chori by Asha
    8. Jaane jigar thoba idhar by Geetha
    9. Jaane tamanna kya kar daala by MK and Asha
    10. Jaraa si baat ka huzoor by Asha
    11.Khuda huzoorko meri by Usha(or Asha?)
    12.Poochona yaar kya hua by Rafi_Asha
    13.Roka hai zamaanene by Asha
    14.Ajaare…Aaja aaja…. Teree talsh mein by Asha
    15. ohh.. Tumko piya dil diya by Usha
    16.Woh hasrateke mile hamse hum pyar samazh baithe by Asha
    This difficulty mainly arises because I was out of touch with music for nearly 25 yrs, and I am not able to recall at my old age of 68 now. They are in my library , but with this incomplete info.
    Also forgive me if there are any spelling mistakes.
    I welcome any one who can shed light on on one or more of these songs and help me complete my tagging.
    Thank you.

    Comment by curao — March 21, 2007 @ 6:20 pm | Reply

  174. Kaveeetaji,
    i will try to do As you suggested. I will have to first learn the ropes of handling DVDs.
    Ofcourse I will be only too happy to share if I succeed, just to perpetrate the cult of our OPN, if not for anything else.

    Comment by curao — March 21, 2007 @ 6:24 pm | Reply

  175. Curaoji,

    I can answer some of your questions.

    9. The duet by MK and Asha is from CID 909
    11. This sung by Asha and Usha is from the movie Sawan Ki Ghata
    16. This solo by Asha is from Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi
    10. I too have it in a casette but I don’t know the name of the movie.
    All these three are O.P. creations.

    Number 12 is composed by R D Burman. from the movie Hum Kisise Kum Naheen.

    I am sure you will get the remaining songs tagged with assistance from others.

    Any one reading my e-mails welcome to contact me at krbaru@hotmail.com.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 22, 2007 @ 7:05 am | Reply

  176. Curao Sahib, I agree with you about Hemant Kumar,s wonderful duets with other females singers…I would add to this list four more duets from the same period (50s). I am sure you would love it.
    1) Tumse Door Chale—–film, Pyar Ki Rahen (1959),music—-Kanu Ghosh
    2) Yeh Jhoomte Nazare—film, Nai Rahen (1959), music—-Ravi.
    3) Yaad Kiya Dil Ne—–film, Patita (1953), music—-Shankar-Jaikishan
    4) Lahron Pe Laher——film, Chhabili (1960), music—-Snehal Bhatkar.
    Ashraft.

    Comment by Ashraft — March 22, 2007 @ 8:36 am | Reply

  177. Thank you. Murty Garu and Kaveeta Ji.

    Any songs by Hemant Kumar for OPN?

    Raag Kalyan was used by OPN for Savera ka Suraj (EBMD) and many other songs. But AB’s ” Nigha Milane ko Ji Chahta hai for Roshan in Dil hi to Hai takes you to another world. Yeh bhi Raag Kalyan hai. I am trying to see the most popular Raag OPN used in his songs. Somebody can put in this site the song and the Raagas OPN used for the song.

    Comment by gajanan — March 22, 2007 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  178. Last line in previous post , please read , “for his songs”

    Comment by gajanan — March 22, 2007 @ 10:55 am | Reply

  179. Gajananji, Hemant Kumar sang for OPN in the film SAMBANDH (1969).

    G N MURTY,Rajahmundry

    Comment by G N MURTY — March 22, 2007 @ 12:26 pm | Reply

  180. Curaoji,
    #1 is from Humsaya – great great song – I love this song. MK’s done a wonderful job.

    #3 is from Raat aur Din (Shankar Jaikishen). It’s sung by AB and Manna Day. SJ has made a few OP like tunes such as this. Another OP like tune was created by Madan Mohan with the song “Shokh Nazer Ki Bijilian” from the film “Woh Kaun Thi.” Also MM made a song “Ja Ja re ja re ja re” in the late 50s with Asha Bhosle which was a very very OP tune.

    #15 is from Shikari. It has G.S. Kohli’s music who was OP’s assistant. This is a fantastic song. I have the 45 speed record of this movie. GS made good songs and he used Lata too. His other hits were “Chaman ke phool bhi thum ko gulab,” and “Agar main poocho jawab dooge.”

    Comment by Hemant — March 22, 2007 @ 7:55 pm | Reply

  181. Ever heard the song by Sudha Malhotra

    ‘tum mujhe bhool bhi jaao to yeh haq hai tumko

    meri baat aur hai maine toh mohabbat ki hai’

    It was the finest sung by the sudha and she received all her accolades post this song. I think it was penned by Sahir. I remember meeting the composer aeons ago.. I dont recollect his name. He was a wonderful, mild mannnered Punjabi gentleman.

    Ashraft ji I simply love ..laheron Pe laher Ulfat hai jawaan.. Gosh what a mood it creates..serene, romantic, ..wonderful.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 23, 2007 @ 11:52 am | Reply

  182. Gajananji,

    Thanks for giving the lyrics of the song “Hamadam mere, maan bhii jaao” from the film “Mere Sanam” at Sl. No. 139 of the blog. I have the song book of Mere Sanam in Devnagiri script. It is among some 300 and odd Hindi film song books which I have collected over a period of two decades, though some of them have got damaged during my transfers to various places !

    Kaveeta ji,

    Thanks for your words of welcome at Sl. No. 141. I am very happy to note the encouraging response to your blog.

    As for your query at Sl. No. 181 about the Music Director who composed the song sung by Sudha Malhotra ji, was it by Hans Raj Behl ji ?

    I am surprised to know that you have not heard Penaaz Masaani’s album with OP so far, even though she has sung a number of ghazals penned by your beloved father. The audio cassette of this album, brought out by Music India (4227 955) in 1988 with the title “O.P. NAYYAR’S haunting melodies in TU HI MERA DIL TU HI MERI JAAN – Penaaz Masani” contains the following songs/ghazals:-

    Side-1

    1. Dekh Mohabbat K Dastoor, penned by Nasir Kazmi
    2. Raat Jab Khilke Muskurati Hai, by Nasir Kazmi and Noor Devasi
    3. Jaane Do, by Noor Devasi
    4. Ye Bhi Kya Shaam-e-Mulaqat Aayee, by Nasir Kazmi

    Side-2

    1. Dilber Dil Bhi Ajeeb Hota Hai, by Noor Devasi
    2. Kise Dekhen Kahan, by Nasir Kazmi
    3. Dil Ke Shikari, by Noor Devasi
    4. Kaun Is Raah Se Guzarta Hai, by Nasir Kazmi

    I now wonder whether you have heard the audio cassette containing Ashok Khosla’s ghazals ! This cassette, which was also brought out by Music India (4227 947) in 1988 with the title “The living legend O.P. NAYYAR presents Magic of Ashok Khosla” , contain the following ghazals/songs:-

    Side 1

    1. Bulaunga Na Milunga, by Nasir Kazmi
    2. Teri Sason Ki Mehek, by Noor Devasi
    3. Musallsal Bekali, by Nasir Kazmi
    4. Din Dhala Raat Phir Aa Gayee, by Nasir Kazmi
    (This particular song is worth listening. May I request our friend Hemant ji to offer his comments on this song ?)

    Side 2

    1. Aap Badle Hai Hum Nahin Badle, by Noor Devasi
    2. Jo Kehana Paya, by Nasir Kazmi
    3. Naye Kapde Badalkar, by Nasir Kazmi
    4. Ik Lafaze Mohabbat Ka, by Jigar Muradabadi.

    On the evening of December 17, 1984, while I was shopping at a busy market in Sector 17B in Chandigarh, I happened to hear a beautiful song “Allah Re Is Dil Ne Kya Chees Pasand Ki Hai”, by Runa Laila, which I immediately recognised as an OP composition ! I searched for the place from where the song was coming and found that it was being played by a cassette hawker with a number of people gathered around him enjoing it. I asked for the cassette and I was extremely happy to find that the cassette contained as many as 10 beautiful ghazals/songs composed by OP. I lost no time in purchasing it, much to the disappointment of those who were enjoying it there ! This cassette, captioned “THE LOVES OF RUNA LAILA”, brought out by Super Cassettes Industries (P) Ltd., Delhi-Bombay under T-series (SNMC 0291), contains the following songs/ghazals composed by OP, Nisazr Basmi and Rahman Rajan :-

    Side A

    1. O Mera Babu Chhail Chhabila, composed by OPNayyar
    2. Damadam Mast Qalandar (traditional music : Nisar Basmi)
    3. Ghungroo Toot Gaye (Music: Maqbool Sabri, Lyrics : Qateel Shifai)
    4. Meri Jaan Mein Tujpe Fidah (Lyrics by Madhuri Joglekar and music by OP Nayyar)
    4. Aaj Chahe Houth, by Noor Devasi/OP Nayyar
    5. Wadiyan Wadiyan, by Noor Devasi/OP Nayyar
    6. Aaja Piya Bahon Mein, by Nadhuri Joglekar/OP Nayyar

    Side B
    1. Kat Te Hain Din Kaise Re, by Bimla Khaitan/OP Nayyar
    2. Allah Re Is Dil Ne Kya Chees Pasand Ki Hai, by Noor Devasi/OP Nayyar
    3. Dil Ki Halat Ko Koi Kya Jane, by Noor Devasi/OP Nayyar
    4. Kahe Do Is Raat Se, by Noor Devasi/OP Nayyar
    5. Sajna O Sajna, by Ali Shehzad/Rahman Rajan
    6. Meri Dilbar Haseena, by Madhuri Joglekar/OP Nayyar

    Comment by Keloth Macheendran — March 25, 2007 @ 5:37 am | Reply

  183. the composer of the song “tum mujhe bhool bhi jaao” is sudha malhotra, the singer herself as music-director of the film didi (n. dutta) was indisposed and sudha was asked by the composer or sahir?… to do the music part.

    Comment by arun bajaj — March 25, 2007 @ 5:00 pm | Reply

  184. Oh yes.. Arun.. D.D. as in Din Dayal..is that right? Did Sudha actually compose the music? Amazing..

    Keloth,

    Yes,I confess I have not so far heard the albums you have listed.. In fact the private song collection of Nayyar saheb is what I have missed out on. But I will be really interested in listening to his non filmi compositions.. and your comment is going to be of great help there when I go shopping 🙂

    I had no idea that ‘mera babu chhail chhabila’ was composed by him. Runa laila lent to it her distinct style but the compostion and beat too was so different from Op jis usual . Its really a revelation.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 25, 2007 @ 10:54 pm | Reply

  185. Kaveetaaji.
    Refer to your post 184,and also to post 182 by Keloth Macheendran
    The song “O Mera Babu Chhail Chhabila” by Runa Laila was not composed by O P Nayyar. It is a song from a pakistani film “Mann ki jeet” released in 1972, music composed by M.Ashraf and sung by Runa laila. O p Nayyar made an Album with singer Runa Laila and alongwith his own compositions, also included a few of Runa Laila’s famous songs. Kaaveetaji, you were so right when you said that this composition was so unlike O P’s.
    Ashraft

    Comment by Ashraft — March 26, 2007 @ 9:42 am | Reply

  186. watch my programme shooted at december of music masti aur dhoom in DD-1 National channel every wednesday 10 to 11.oo p.m.me and my partner ruddhi abhyankar (she and her father both true fans of OP Nayyar) suddenly got the chance of OP Nayyar episode theme in semi-final. I am rudhi were partners you can watch on DD-1 National channel. Most probably in coming 4 weeks our episode of Tribute to OP Nayyar will be telecasted. I think we were very fortunate to be in that episode and winner of that episode.

    Comment by m c mahadevan — March 26, 2007 @ 11:09 pm | Reply

  187. Dear friends,

    Fans of O.P. living abroad may not be able to watch the telecast of the Tribute to O.P. mentioned by Mr. Mahadevan. I am hoping that this episode would be recorded and made available on YouTube so that fans around the globe may watch it.

    May I request some of you to tape the episode and make copies available to those who miss the telecast. Thanks

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 28, 2007 @ 9:16 am | Reply

  188. Dear All,

    The programme “Tribute to O P Nayyar” mentioned by Mr Mahadevan will be aired on next wednesday i.e., 4th April 2007 on Doordarshan, National Channel – DD1.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — March 29, 2007 @ 3:07 pm | Reply

  189. Dear Murtyji,

    Thanks for sharing the scheduled time of the telecast of the programme “Tribute to O.P.”.

    I hope all fans of O.P. who have access to DD1 would watch it. It would be interesting to hear comments and reactions after the programme is aired. Thanks again.

    Krishna Baru, Bloomington, IL., U.S.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 30, 2007 @ 9:24 am | Reply

  190. Dear All,

    In all probability may miss the programme on 4th..since it happens to be my birthday so a family n friends get together is on the anvil.

    I am sure Mr. Mahadevan will be recording it and would be truly wonderful if he could make a podcast of it.. I will be only too glad to post it here.

    Dear Ashraft,

    Thanks for the wonderful comment you have left at my post on ‘an uncommon love story’..I have put in a response there as well. And Oh yes.. so it was not Op ji after all ..mera babu chhail chhabila..No wonder. It is a nice folksy, boisterous number but definitely did not have a single instrument, tone or melody that immediately is unmistakably Nayyar saheb.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 30, 2007 @ 12:52 pm | Reply

  191. Kaveetaji,
    I left a post for you on “An uncommon love story”. Thanks.

    Comment by Ashraft — March 30, 2007 @ 11:59 pm | Reply

  192. Yes Ashraft ji ..have responded there.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — April 1, 2007 @ 12:04 pm | Reply

  193. there are lots of o p nayyar gems which are out of listener’s mind. i am trying to recollect some….

    1 apna to zamane mein bus itna fasana hai kishore naya andaz
    2 jhoote zamane bhar ke rafi-nirmala bhagam-bhag
    3 zara si baat ka huzoor ne fasana ker diya asha musafirkhana
    4 bahon ko jara lehara dein manna-asha kabhie andhera kabhie ujala
    5 bol pardesiya ye tune kya kiya asha mangu
    6 jadugar sanwariya asha dhake ki malmal
    7 o madam nancy you are my fancy rafi-asha basant
    8 aaj suhani raat re shamshad-rafi-kishore kabhie andhera …….

    listen to these songs then you will get the real flavour of op nayyar

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 1, 2007 @ 2:06 pm | Reply

  194. there are lots of o p nayyar gems which are out of listener’s mind. i am trying to recollect some….

    1 apna to zamane mein bus itna fasana hai — kishore — naya andaz
    2 jhoote zamane bhar ke — rafi-nirmala — bhagam-bhag
    3 zara si baat ka huzoor ne fasana ker diya — asha — musafirkhana
    4 bahon ko jara lehara dein — manna-asha– kabhie andhera kabhie ujala
    5 bol pardesiya ye tune kya kiya — asha — mangu
    6 jadugar sanwariya — asha — dhake ki malmal
    7 o madam nancy you are my fancy — rafi-asha — basant
    8 aaj suhani raat re — shamshad-rafi-kishore — kabhie andhera…. .’……..

    listen to these songs then you will get the real flavour of op nayyar

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 1, 2007 @ 2:20 pm | Reply

  195. Kaveeta ji,

    All the details furnished by me at Sl. No. 182 of this blog, including the information that OP composed the music for the song ‘Mera babu chhail chhabila’ , are as per the information given on the audio cassette “THE LOVES OF RUNA LAINA”. I am thankful to Ashraft ji for setting the record straight. In fact, apart from mentioning that the music for this song is by OP Nayyar, it has also been mentioned alongside that this song is from the film “Har Jeet”! I agree with your statement that though Runa Laila lent to it her distinct style, the composition/beat is so different from OP’

    Ashraft ji,

    Thanks for giving the correct information at Sl. No.185 of the blog.

    Comment by Keloth Macheendran — April 1, 2007 @ 3:47 pm | Reply

  196. Thank you Ashraftji,
    for your post of 22nd March. I am glad you agree with me on Hemant’s duets with various female singers. Yes, I have all those songs which you mentioned and many more which I have assiduously collected from so many sources. I have more than 60 duets of his.
    I would like to add afew more just to enable the friends here recall them.
    1. Gagan jhan jhana raha with Lata in Nastik. May not be exactly sweet , but still a memorable song
    2. Yeh shoke sitare with asha in Hamara watan
    3. chale hum kahan with Geetha in Police
    4. Dilki umage hai jawan with Geetha in Munimji
    5. Tumhe chupkese with Lata, I dont know from which film, what a song!!!!
    6. sanware chalone aaye with Lata in ek hi raasta
    7. Yeh mehfil sitaronse with Lata in Ek Jhalak
    8. Kehrahi hai jindagi with Geetha in Jalti Nishan
    and of course, Nain to nain with Lata in Jhanak Jhanak Payal baje.
    i just gave another list of his great duets.
    But one enigma remains in my mind. I, personally dont think Hemant was a great singer.(I request his fans to fogive me for this personal opinion of mine). Then how could he give such exqisitely sweet songs? Is the sweetness in the compositions, or in combining with the female singers? Perhaps he is the only male singer with more great duets than great solos.
    Just compare with Talat and Mukhesh. Both are greater singers and both have many sweet duets too. There is really no surprise in their giving such duets, given the fact that they have a large no. of great solos too.
    This question was always in my mind since those days. I would welcome comments or criticisms on this.

    Comment by curao — April 2, 2007 @ 1:41 pm | Reply

  197. curao,

    I recognise some of the duets..nain to nain was great.

    As far as Hemant Kumar goes it was the quality of his voice, the peace with which he sang. The compositions too complemented his singing. He knew his drawbacks and strengths and accordingly made music to suit his style. He has to be appreciated for being unique. ..similarly Mukesh. Not a great singer but memorable songs.

    Comment by krishnan — April 3, 2007 @ 5:56 pm | Reply

  198. Arunji,
    I am very happy at the mention some of OPN’s great but less frequently recalled songs. I too was trying to do the same thing. After all this blog is entitled ” O.P.Nayyar, you are not forgotten” Let us live upto that assurance given to the soul that passed away, by stressing the specialities of some of such songs.
    Iam particularly glad at your reminiscing on: Zara si baat, Baahonko jara, bol pardesia(one of my great favourites in those days , but could not get it again into my library) and Jaadugar sanwaria. Baahonko jara(perhaps the only Mannadey’s song for OP?) particularly appeals to me for its off beat tune and great musical interlude bet stanzas.
    May I add a few more songs to be recalled and to be reappreciated?
    1. ai dil hai deewaane by Geetha in Baaz. A very soul stirring song wondefully rendered by Golden Geetha
    2. Hojo hukm to mehrbaan by Asha in Hong kong. I request his fans to hear it once again and marvel at the tone used by Asha intentionally nasal tilt and the Hawaiian beat of the drum music and the tune itself.
    3. Ho baat jis seki dhadke priya by Geetha (or Asha?) for fast paced harmonium music and similar nasal tone as in 2 above.
    4.Chore lutere daaku by Geetha in Ustad for its suspenseful music and guitar music. I t is an all time favorite of mine. It really created a big stir when it first came in Binaka Geethmala entering straight away at no. 9 , then 10 and 11 and then faded away too soon. May be because the film was an utter failure
    5. Raat sard sard hai by Rafi-Asha in Jaali note. One of the sweet songs of OP
    6. Mai Mai Quartoon by Rafi-Asha-Shamshad in Mr. quartoon M.A.
    7. Mai hun Mr johny by Rafi in Mai baap, if one is not biased against Rock’n rolls and Johny walker. We used to like the Hindi Rock’n rolls very much in those days when we were young and did not lose our liking at least because of nostalgia

    Comment by curao — April 3, 2007 @ 7:21 pm | Reply

  199. Krishna baruji and Hemant ji,
    i thank you both very much for the Details given by you for tagging the songs listed by me. i am really surprised that SJ somewhat imitated OPN in raat aur din song then.
    Does any of you happen to know if the song ” Karle karle pyar wai wai yaar…” by Geetha is OPN’s? and the film? It is tagged in my Library as from “Baazigar”. Was ther such old film at all? with music by OPN?. I know there was Baazi with SDB and Baaz with OPN.

    Comment by curao — April 3, 2007 @ 7:39 pm | Reply

  200. Kaveeta ji,

    Wish you a Very Happy Birthday and many happy returns of the day !

    Comment by Keloth Macheendran — April 4, 2007 @ 12:45 pm | Reply

  201. Kaveeta ji,

    How are you doing? Let me join your friends and family in wishing you a Happy Birthday. I hope you and your family are doing something special today. Enjoy.

    Many happy returns of the day.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 4, 2007 @ 5:09 pm | Reply

  202. the question you asked krishna,i am giving you the answer. “karle karle pyar wai wai pyar” is from old ‘bazigar’ . this song is penned by prem dhawan and it’s music-director is chitragupta. incidentally if you want op nayyar’s song mentioned by me i’ll be delighted to share with you.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 4, 2007 @ 6:27 pm | Reply

  203. many many happy returns of the day kaveetaji.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 4, 2007 @ 7:55 pm | Reply

  204. Arunji Thank you very much for the info on the song”Karle karle pyar”.
    AND I THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR THE OFFER YOU MADE TO SEND ME THE SONG.
    i DONT HAVE THE FOLLOWING SONGS, FROM THE LIST YOU GAAVE UNDER NO 194.
    1.Bol pardesia- I simply adore this song. Even if you dont have the other two songs mentioned below, please please send me this. I will be so indebted to you.
    2.Jhoote zamane from Bhagam bhag? This is first time iam hearing this title from Bhagam bhag. I am thinking I have all the songs of that film, as I recorded them from the film itself. pl send this also if you can.
    3. oh madam nancy you are my fancy of Basant. This is also a surprise for me. Like in 2 above i seem to be wrong again in thinking that I have all the songs of Basant.
    My email addr is >cumrao@yahoo.com

    Comment by curao — April 4, 2007 @ 8:11 pm | Reply

  205. mr. curao,
    you are right in pointing my mistakes…..jhute zamane bhar ke …is from film ‘musafirkhana’. and the song aaj suhani raat re…is from naya andaaz.o madam nancy is from basant and it is a fantastic song created by the great master.there are some more in my collection…man more ga jhoom ke from mangu, antam fantam chod de babu from hum sab chor hain, and the songs of do ustaad such as humpe dil aaya to bolo kya karoge and tere dil ka makaan saiyyan bada aalishan. if you are living in mumbai then it will be very convinient for me to give you the cassette.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 5, 2007 @ 10:37 am | Reply

  206. Dear Keloth, Krisna baru ji and Murthy ji,

    Thank you ever so much for your warm wishes. Yes, we had a pleasant family get together. So thats one more year marked off the calendar..as also a stern reminder that the sands of time are slipping away, continually, slowly but surely. So must remember to live each moment in the present and to the fullest..

    ‘aage bhi jaane na tu..peeche bhi jaane na tu..jo bhi hai bas yehi ek pal hai’

    Regards

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — April 5, 2007 @ 11:26 am | Reply

  207. Arunji,
    Thank you very much for your offer, but unfortunately iam not living in mumbai.I am in vijayawada.
    Actually , I did not think of pointing out any mistakes. I thought I might have forgotten, because of age, you know.
    Zhute hai zammane, bol pardesia, and Oh madam Nancy: These 3 i definitely want. But, how can I get them? If you dont have them in your PC in a compressed format, you can not send them as email attachments. Another way is to send a cassette recorded for me, these 3 along with some other songs, which I dont have.
    I have all my songs in my PC in mp3 format. So, I can pick up any song and send to you or any one who wants it.
    so, I suggest that we explore what songs each of us dont have.
    Be assured that that I will pay for the cassette and any postal/courier expenses, if not for your trouble. I can send the songs without any expenses, so, there is no problem for me.
    Iam listing below, some of my most wanted songs missing from library, for starters. You seem to be very knowledgeable and must be having them.
    In addition to the 3 songs above,
    1. Bol mere man pyaar se from Mangu- I have this, but in very bad quality. You are the only person i came across who liked the Mangu songs and have them too. This particular song was a very great hit in our state in those days-one of the most exhillerating songs ever by OPN.
    2. Aja Jaraa aja jaraa meree by Geetha as solo from Ek Jhalak. I have the duet with Hemant of the same title.
    3. Jaate ho to jaao kal jaooge kahan by Geetha in Milap(N.Dutta). This too was a great hit. I dont know why people forgot it.
    4. All songs of film johny walker except thandi thandi hawa, which I have.
    5. All songs of Mr quartoon M.A. except Mai mai quartoon, especially that Asha-Geetha duet, ………tum kitna beautiful hai tum kitna wonderful. I forgot the beginning words.
    6. Jaan saketo from Ustad by Rafi
    7.Jhoomke aaya hun mai bandhu rus sine England by Rafi-Asha in Basant. I have this , but only a part.
    8. Saathi haath badhana-This was a 2 sided song in the gramophone record. I only got that part which begins with “Saathi hath badhana sathire”. If I remeber well the 2nd part begins with”Saathi hath rehana saathire”. It is the 2nd part I want.
    Well, it is long list already. I do have a large no of songs of all music direcotors, not a great exhaustive collection but considerable. Mostly 1945-1975. I think i have most of CR,Naushad. Iknow still many are missing. But iam finding it very difficult to get them here in Andhra.
    I am very happy for your having the songs of Mangu and liking them. There are 4 tremendously good songs in that, we used to call the Mangu quartet.
    One titbit here: At about the time of Tumsa nahin Dekha, Asha bhosle said that her best song ever was “Man more gaa” of Mangu. Of course these singers keep on changing their best songs.
    Just let me know what songs are missing at your side. If i have them i will send them. Better send me an email to my addr:>cumrao@yahoo.com

    Comment by curao — April 5, 2007 @ 7:09 pm | Reply

  208. Hemantji,
    It is interesting your mentioning SJ had some Nayyar like songs. I admire SJ for their great contribution to Hindi music, perhaps the greatest. But, OPN is special to me.
    I like to point out one particular song of each.
    Pl. compare Antam phantam of Humsub chor hain by Asha, with tera teeronki teer by Lata in Shararat. I wont say that The later song was a copy of the first, but definitely the idea was the same. a long vocal line by the singer followed by the guitar music with the same twists and turns. Still both are great songs and I give equal marks.

    Comment by curao — April 5, 2007 @ 7:28 pm | Reply

  209. The difference between SJ and OPN is in use of violins. SJ were champions in using many violinists to play music, whereas OPN had a knack of telling it or spreading it over many instruments. Sometimes the Spanish Guitar did the talking for OPN, whereas SJ relied a lot on violin. The song Dil ke Jaroko me Tujhko Bitakar in Brahmachari had violins accompanying Rafi, whereas in OPN’s ” Banda Parivar , Tham lo jigaar , you have less orchestrazation , but effective use of instruments. Metaphorically , one can say that SJ’s used his instruments like sailing a boat on high seas , with waves lashing on the sides, ( Note the start of Dil ke Jaroke me… Its truly great, your expectations are high , adrenalin high, and lo behold Rafi comes in majestically ” Dil ke jaroke me Tujko bitaakar) whereas OPN used his instruments like sailing a boat where waves touch the boat in soft mode like the Spanish Guitar in ” Pukarta Chala Hu me” ( this is also great as it soothes your nerves). Both styles are good , one expecting type, and also you get the expected gift (SJ) and the other as if you have received a great gift without any great expectations (OPN)

    Comment by gajanan — April 10, 2007 @ 11:38 am | Reply

  210. I really enjoyed your view on s-j and op. apart from violin s-j also used accordion , mandolin and piano very effectively whereas op relied much on sarangi, sitar,jaltarang apart from violin and guitar. good reading Gajanan.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 10, 2007 @ 12:52 pm | Reply

  211. Dear Gajananji,

    You were very kind to SJ in describing their music and orchestra. If I have to put it bluntly, I would say SJ were very rough with the instruments and were making a hell of noise. SJ had melodious tunes but they couldn’t handle the instruments especially, violin. You may recollect some one referred to SJ as “Band Masters”.

    On the other hand, O.P. paid equal attention to both tunes and use of instruments. His use of violin was super. Another music director that gave soft, pleasant,and melodious music was S.D. Burman.

    This is strictly my opinion. Thanks for listening to me.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 11, 2007 @ 6:54 am | Reply

  212. Hello All,

    The programme “Tribute to O.P.” was scheduled to be aired on DD on April 4th. I am wondering if the programme was televised and how did it go. I am anxiously waiting to hear your comments. I hope to see it some day if the programme was taped. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 11, 2007 @ 8:34 am | Reply

  213. Ramayya Vastavayya-Shree 420 , This song of S-J was outstanding. One great asset for SJ was his association with RK’s. RK had Shailendra , Hasrat Jaipuri ( he has songs with OPN) whom I consider the numero ono among lyricists (Shailendra)

    The Guide (1968). SD Burman with all lyrics by Shailendra is still on the top of my charts. Rahmans , Anu Maliks and many may come , but Guide is out of the world. OPN was a big fan of SD Burman. I have read it somewhere.

    “Piya those Naina Lage Re” from Guide in Teen Taal and Rupaka Taal was mind blowing. I stop working when I hear this song.

    I do not have any details of Shailendra’s association with OPN , but if they had collaborated as Shailendra did with SJ and SD , then OPN with such a great talent to use minimal effects of instruments, but very effective , would have created really great lyrical music. Any idea how many songs Shailendra wrote for OPN?

    Comment by gajanan — April 11, 2007 @ 10:30 am | Reply

  214. Read for the first time in my life that s-j were very rough with the instruments. I can only pray for such souls.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 12, 2007 @ 9:42 am | Reply

  215. “Tribute to OP” was aired yesterday 11th April 07 at 10pm in DD National and the programme was very nice. The programme was originally scheduled to be telcast on 4th but due to cricket match it was postponed.

    Congratulations to Mr Mahadevan, the winner.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 12, 2007 @ 11:40 am | Reply

  216. English is a very funny language, bec words do not exactly describe the functions well. Rough is not the right word. It may be denote that , they will not be able to play the instruments again as playing rough would decrease the life of the instrument. In fact , deewala nikal jaata ta SJ ka instrumentalst’s ka.

    One could say SJ were always on very higher octave with the instruments, probably to pounce out emotions as much as possible. You must have watched Shammi shake his head , body and even his soul ( dikta nahi hai, but lagta hai) for the Brahamachari song. Now if you see OPN ‘s Kashmir Ki Kali, Shammi does the same thing for ” Yeh Chand sa roshan…Tarif karu” , but in a rubber band bending movement in the boat. This he does with ease, whereas in the Brahmchari song he is is abs. serious. of course this is not the right comparative
    song. Then take ” Aaaj Kaal tere mere pyaar ke charche ” and KKali song as mentioned above. One feels that both OPN and SJ have emoted in equal quantities. The Guitar in KKali and the saxophone in Brahmachari. To be contin….

    Comment by gajanan — April 12, 2007 @ 12:37 pm | Reply

  217. If you want to be very serious before an exam , then SJ’s tunes are the perfect choice. Mood create karo exam ka. Then when you want to just leave home, you will meet a lot friends who may sometimes psyche you with ” Woh Pada kya” . Yeh question , yeh topic” etyadi , etyadi. Then better listen to OPN’s stress releasing songs, so that you can handle your competitors well on the way , with a “Hai, with a smile” and then when you sit on the examination table switch yourself to SJ, with a la Shammi’s serious face, so that you recollect all you have studied. This is just a metaphorical comparsion. Ekdhum serious math le lena yeh advice. Indian cricket team jaisa modelling on TV and modelling on playing field jaisa bhajiya mix performance na ho jaye.

    Comment by gajanan — April 13, 2007 @ 8:47 am | Reply

  218. Ha..Ha Gajanan that was hillarious.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — April 13, 2007 @ 9:33 am | Reply

  219. Every music-director has his own style. SD’s music has strong shades of bengali
    folk, Naushad’s has it’s root in traditional gharanas, OP has a strong punjabi flavour but S-J,s music has Pan-India flavour, modern and cosmopolitan in the true sense. This is the reason for their universal appeal.

    After ‘Barsaat’ film music was never the same again. Their orchestration is more rich in style and content. example 1. sab kuch seekha humne 2.sunte they naam hum(Aah) 3. ghar aaya mera pardesi 4. aaja sanam madhur chandani mein hum 5. baat baat mein rootho na (Seema) 5. Awaara hoon …. there are many more. The opening music was brilliant, music between the ‘antraa’s was never forced and above all they never left the ‘antraa’s naked. There was always some background musical support for the vocals.

    Lastly i can only say the musical journey of S-J FROM Barsaat to Teesri kasam had very few parallels and even if there was one, they truimphed by the sheer majesty of their superior orchestration, melody and rhyrhm.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 13, 2007 @ 4:47 pm | Reply

  220. I enjoyed reading mail from Arjun and Gajanan. I would like to thank Murtyji for the update on Tribute To O.P. Can we talk more about this? Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 13, 2007 @ 4:57 pm | Reply

  221. Arun Ji,

    that was a good observation. i agree when you say that “Lastly i can only say the musical journey of S-J FROM Barsaat to Teesri kasam had very few parallels and even if there was one, they truimphed by the sheer majesty of their superior orchestration, melody and rhyrhm.”
    their style was so easily recognisable and they made a mark. Its wrong to compare and put down any of these greats.

    Comment by krishnan — April 14, 2007 @ 10:29 am | Reply

  222. Teesri Kasam , SJ were outstanding, the Bhojpuri innocence of Manna Dey very apt to Raj Kapoor’s character in the film. Lyrics of Shailendra and Hasrat who wrote ” Sajanava Bairi” were masterpieces ( Shailendra and Hasrat Jaipuri both wrote this song). I may be wrong, Shailendra produced this movie, me thinks so. That is the reason I declare Shailendra as No 1 in lyrics. Well as Krishnan has written , each have their own style. But a big difference now and then is the lyrics aspect. Hindi film MD will have to do something to search for good lyricists, otherwise, interval ka jarrorat nahi hoga 15 mins ka , bus 5 songs , 3 mins ka , the viewer can decide kaab kya karna hai. Popcorn se lekhe
    ….

    Comment by gajanan — April 14, 2007 @ 11:59 am | Reply

  223. I told you!
    Your analogy and discription is just amazing, Gajanan. I enjoy your write-up – very imaginative and hillarious. The exams and the Indian team performance – hahahahah. Too Good!!

    I must say that SJ is on my top 5/6 list of favorite MDs with OP, SJ, LP, Kalyanji Ananji, RD, Madan Mohan (not necessarily in order).

    I’m changing gears here. LP were assistants to SJ and KA at one point before they became MD. Therefore, you’ll see some similarities or influence in their style, the use of instruments, etc (especially in the music from the 60s).

    Comment by Hemant — April 15, 2007 @ 4:52 am | Reply

  224. I Thank Gajananji for his enlightening anlysis on instruments used by SJ and OP. It is very useful for people like me who know nothing about instruments, especially what instruments were used by various MDs.
    I partly agree with Krishna baruji in comparing OP and SJ on instruntal music in their songs in so far as OP paid equal attention to both instrumentals and vocals. I wont go so far as to say that SJ were rough with instruments. They were not in my opinion.
    However, one difference was observed by me between Op and all other big MDs. OP generally used a lot of instrumental music in the beginnings and between stanzas. Most of that musicals were very good and memorable. all others including SJ used less. I can cite many examples.Of course there are exceptions on either side. But it is not the exceptions, but what I observed in most of the songs, without any knoledge in instruments. I am trying to piece together some of the so many musical bits of OP and compare the number of bits with those of others.
    In those days, it was generally said by experts that C.Ramchandra more versatile in instruments.

    Comment by curao — April 15, 2007 @ 12:35 pm | Reply

  225. I happen to have in my PC A Lata-Amin Sayani interview. I forgot where and when I downloaded it. But it was much before his sad demise. It is 2 hrs long including songs. I never happened to hear it, somewhat thrown into a corner.
    Many boarders here may already have it and this may not be news to them. I assumed that she must have told about her songs and paid tributes to her usual favourites, anil Biswas, SJ,SDB, Naushad etc.
    Just today I clicked it somewqhere in the middle suddenly heard her mentioning OP’s name. She gave handsome praise and said that he was a trend setter and brought into limelight Punjabi flavour and ruled the music world for 12 to 15 years. When asked to pick up a song, she gave “Yeh reshmi Julphonka andhera”.
    I was plesantly surprised at her praise, especially because she never sang for him.
    So, As OP once said somtime ago there was no quarrel between them, it must be true.
    I have this in 128kbps. So, it is quite big. If any one wants this, I can send this. May be, i have to break it into smaller bits and may have to reduce the bit rate to 16kbps or so.

    Comment by curao — April 15, 2007 @ 12:53 pm | Reply

  226. C. Ramachandra or Chitalkaar (I hope I am right) had a knack of writing having lyrics written in limerick mode, for example

    meri jaan meri jaan sunday ke sunday aana meri jaan meri jaan sunday ke sunday… the next line —- it is Ande ke Ande — Please complete

    Another song was sung by SBegum and Chitalkaar.

    Hello,Hindustan Ka Dehradun
    Hello,Maein Rangoon Se Bol Raha Hoon
    Maein Apni Biwi RenukaDevi Se Baat Karna Chaahata Hoon
    Haan Haan

    Mere Piyaa, Ho Mere Piyaa Gaye Rangoon
    Kiya Hai Vahaan Se Telephoon
    Tumhari Yaad Sataati Hai Jiya Mein Aag Lagaati Hai
    Mere Piya Gaye Rangoon Kiya Hai Vahaan Se Telephoon
    Tumhari Yaad Sataati Hai Jiya Mein Aag Lagaati Hai

    Ham Chhod Ke Hindustan Bahut Pachhtaye
    Hui Bhool Jo Tumko Saath Na Lekar Aaye
    Ham Burma Ki Galiyon Maein Aur Tum Ho Dehradun
    Tumhari Yaad Sataati Hai Jiya Mein Aag Lagaati Hai

    Meri Bhookh Pyaas Bhi Kho Gayi Gham Ke Maare
    Maein Adhmui Si Ho Gai Gham Ke Maare
    Tum Bin Saajan, Janvari Farvari Ban Gaye Mayi Aur June
    Tumhari Yaad Sataati Hai Jiya Mein Aag Lagaati Hai

    Aji Tumse Bichhadke Ho Gaye Ham Sanyasi
    Kha Lete Hain Jo Mil Jaaye Rukhi Sukhi Baasi
    Aji Lungi Baandh Ke Karen Guzaara Bhool Gaye Patloon
    Tumhari Yaad Sataati Hai Jiya Mein Aag Lagaati Hai (This part by Chitalkaar is an unforgetable experience. Wah , Wah that lowering of voice effectively, kya baat hai).

    In fact his Albela songs were a annual day function ritual in college. Chitalkaar and the dance steps by Bhagwan Dada are forerunners to Big B’s style of dancing and many in Bollywood today. Woh rukh rukh ke dance karna, esp the steps sometimes in one place was a great innovation of Chitaalkaar and Bhagwan Dada. Now this style is original and the style of dancing to OPN’s tunes , with gay abandon is also original. This is badly needed today to reduce the cacophony in music.

    Comment by gajanan — April 16, 2007 @ 8:38 am | Reply

  227. You are very right Gajananji, Chitalkar is C.Ramachndra. Full name chitlkar Ramachandra.
    The song ……..Sunday ke Sunday.. Paris Dikhaun.. London ghumaun…. murgise ande ande. Is very famous. He was reputed to have used the maximum No. of instruments for that orchestra.
    The song you mentioned, Hello, MAin rangoonse bol rahan hun… is from Patanga, perhaps one of his most famous films, along with Anarkali, Albela and Azad.
    One tit bit here in connection with Anarkali. An Opinion poll was conducted in England to pick up the best film in different categories, somet time after Jhank Jhanak Payal baje. We were all expecting Nagin would be chosen for the best music. But were surprised to find it was Anarkali and Vyjayantimala in Nagin for the best Actress. Shaheed for the best film. We later came to undertand why Anarkali should be higher, and still consider that as best musical ever 12 gems of songs.
    BTW, Patanga has many really sizzling songs. Sometime after his death, Filmfare ran an article on him titled “When C.Ramchandra strode like a giant”. He was,like OP aftre him, a great experimenter and innovator. was the first to mix western with Indian music. credited as the most knowledgeable amongst all MDs.
    When you say dances for his songs, one of the first such was, even before Albela. was the Sargam song, With African type drum beats: Oh raat milanki, dil hain pyasa… bampasa… bam pasa. This used to be favorite for dances in entertainment halls.

    Comment by curao — April 16, 2007 @ 7:52 pm | Reply

  228. Curao ji aapne tho Bhule Bisre Geet ki yaad dilakaar, dilkhush kaar diya. Kaha Gaye Woh Log.

    Comment by gajanan — April 17, 2007 @ 9:00 am | Reply

  229. Curao ji, thank you very much for this nice article on C Ramachandra, really he was a great composer. It is very pity that today everybody giving credit to Lata Mangeshkar for the song “Ae Mere Watan Ke Logon” which moved tears in the eyes of Pt Nehru, but the real hero of this song is C Ramachandra Ji who composed the music for this and late pradeepji who penned this song. Gajananji ne thik kaha , “kahan gaye woh log” the real seven wonders of our Indian cinema, 1. Naushad 2. Shankar Jaikishan 3. S D Burman 4. O P Nayyar 5. C Ramachandra 6. Madan Mohan 7. Roshan and we also can add the name of RD.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 17, 2007 @ 1:44 pm | Reply

  230. Gajananji and Murtyji,
    When both of you say, “Kahan gaye woh Log”; for old people like me, it is also kahan gaye won din and Bachpan ke din bulana dena. Yes all are gone, those people and those days, even in my own life. My eyes water, remebering them. Oh ,to all those people that are gone Mera salaam leja.
    Murtyji, I limit to five, the greatest MDs of all time. My order for greatness is: SJ,OP, Naushad, SDB and CR., With all due respect and credit to all others who contributed to create that golden age of Hindi film music. Roshan, Madan mohan, Hemant, Ghulam mohd, Anil biswas….etc. As the famous Telugu saying by the great Thyagaraja goes, so many greats, Namaskarams to all. Many less known people also chipped in, like Snehal Bhatkar, Dattaram, Chitragupta, Ravi, Bulo C.Rani, Ghulam haider, Husnlal bhagtram, Khaiyyam etc. not in any particular order.

    Comment by curao — April 17, 2007 @ 5:50 pm | Reply

  231. Curaoji,

    The team of Lakshmikanth Pyraelal was missing from your comments. Is it because they belong to a newer generation?

    Another one not receiving a mention was Salil Chowdary (I am not sure I am spelling correctly). His compositions in Madhumati were just fantastic.

    I have 2 sisters and no brothers. One sister’s favorite MD is SDB and the other adores SJ.

    By the by, can you recollect if CR was ever recognized with the Film Fare award?

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 18, 2007 @ 6:50 am | Reply

  232. Yes , Blind aping of the West has led to these problems. We used to have a Professor in our Eng College, who used to say ” We copy all the bad things of West first and not the good things”. The work culture of West is the good thing to copy and not the other things. India is undergoing a change in all aspects , but if e give up our culture we are doomed. All the MD Curaoji you have mentioned had our culture in their back of mind. OPN had Punjabi rural folk , SD had Bengali sangeet . SJ , LP, KA had Central India , North India, Gujarat ( Saraswatichandra songs). The present crop of MD have imitated the West’s silly music and not its serious ( Beethoven, Mozart and even Sound of Music style music). 20,000 Watts of music is in fashion. Is me kya milta hai. Ear drums gone, complete Baira ( deaf) hota hai aadmi.

    Lage Raho Curaoji

    Comment by gajanan — April 18, 2007 @ 7:21 am | Reply

  233. Krishna Ji,

    C Ramachandra was never received Film Fare award. I am having the following information which I don’t claim 100% correct and if anybody having accurate figures they can correct me.

    Name of the composer No of FF award
    Shankar Jaikishan 9
    Laxmikanth Pyarelal 7
    RD Burman 3
    SD Burman 2
    OP Nayyar 1
    Roshan 2
    Madan Mohan & Jaidev 1
    Naushad 1
    Kalyanji Anandji 1
    Salil Choudhury 1

    I have given the list of old composers only.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 18, 2007 @ 10:28 am | Reply

  234. The greatest puzzle is why Guide did not receive filmfare award , but someother film did . Suraj am I right that year?

    Comment by gajanan — April 18, 2007 @ 12:49 pm | Reply

  235. Now the conversation has turned to c. Ramchandra (popularly known as Anna Saheb) in the industry, let me place some facts before you.There are lots of similarities between OP Nayyar and C.Ramchandra …….
    1. Both were tall and handsome.
    2. Both had king-size ego.
    3. Both had a rich life style
    4. They both knew their job.
    5.Both were at once jazzy and classy.
    6.Generally both never tuned the song till the lyrics were supplied to them
    7. Both were fast in tuning and recording the songs.
    8. Both were under the magic spell of their leading singers.
    9. Both had a major fall out when their buddies left them
    1 both are the species of another world.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 18, 2007 @ 1:39 pm | Reply

  236. Please read my last post (235)from point no.8 onwards as under:

    9. Both had a major fall out with their buddies.
    10.Career of both sinked after that.
    11.Both believed in astrology.
    12. Both used Mukesh rarely
    13. Both were the species of another world.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 18, 2007 @ 3:26 pm | Reply

  237. Excellent comparision Arunji.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 18, 2007 @ 3:44 pm | Reply

  238. As I left India in 1971, I was not fully aware of things that happened subsequently in the Hindi moviedom. Often I wonder between S and J, who was the real brain as after one passed away, the other hung in only for a few years. Since my interests do not encompass SJ, I cannot even recollect who was the first one (S or J) to go. Later even RK chose to abandon the SJ band wagon and went with LP.

    The fact that SD was not awarded for his work in “Guide” shows that all film moguls were blindly favouring SJ. Defintely, SJ were overrated. In spite of being out of picture for a few years and in spite of the fact that big guys were not supporting him, O.P. staged a marvellous come back with Ek Musafir Ek Hasina. He deserved more awards.

    Are we doing anything about creating a web site totally dedicated to O.P.? I am willing to contribute financially.

    Pasand apna apna, Kayal apna apna.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 18, 2007 @ 4:43 pm | Reply

  239. people are not concerned whether you left india in 1971 0r 1947, at least you should know about the basics of hindi film music.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 18, 2007 @ 9:11 pm | Reply

  240. It looks some folks are so immersed in praying that they do not read letters completely. I never said I don’t know the basics of hindi film music. What all i am saying is that I don’t care for SJ’s brand of music.

    I still maintain SJ were overrated and they did not care to or could not use the instruments effectively. Also pay attention to my last sentence of the previous letter which reads Pasand Apna Apna, Kayal Apna Apna.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 18, 2007 @ 10:21 pm | Reply

  241. One of the advantages which SJ had wss the great lyricists in their music.

    1. “Jiya beqaraar hai” and “Barsaat mein humse mile tum”
    2 Chori Chori
    3 Dil Apna Aur Preet Parai ( Ajeeb Dastaan Hai ye…Great song)
    4 – Anari ( Kisi ki Muskurrahto pe ho nissar)
    5 – Professor ( Very good songs)
    6 – Mera Naam Joker ( Jane Kahe Gaye woh din
    in Raag Shivaranjini, You can sing this overseas and remember to do something for your motherland).
    7. Jab Pyar Kisi Se Hota Hai.
    8. Sangam ( Dost Dost Na Raha)
    9. O Basanti”, “Jis desh men ganga behti hai” and “Aa ab lout chalen”. plus the “Beganna Shaadi me Abdulla Deewana. In case you are left out from a near and dear ones wedding , just sing ” Beganna Shaadi me Abdulla Deewana”
    In fact whole Mumbai can sing as majority will be left out from 20 th April 2007 star studded wedding in Juhu, even though they have paid thru their nose for their movies.

    O Basanti is superbly sung and lyrics fundu hai.
    10. Aaab Kaha Jaye Hum Manna Dey Ujala Shailendra. The way Mannada sings this song , you really feel for it. Kudos to Manna Dey
    11 Sur Na Saje . Manna Dey – Shailendra

    The list is quite long. SJ were quite emotional in their music. The point is that they had the best lyricists to write for them. One example which comes to mind is the lyrics of John Lennon’s song ” Imagine” Very simple and very effective. Whether you are in Jhumritalya ( provided you know Angrezi) or in USA or in Russia , the lyrics are outstanding and it will remain on the top five forever.

    SJ had this advantage. About Guide not getting filmfare award . Lobbies play an important role in all awards, whether it is Nobel Prize , Oscar Award ( Crowe of Beautiful Mind missed out to DWashington, this was sheer lobbying). SDB’s music in Guide will remain immortal so long as you have no hearing problems. Credit also goes to Vijay Anand , who had mastery in picturising songs. The cycle song in tere mere Sapne esp the lyrics ” Paas agar Madhur Madhur , Jaise Rajniganda” Wah , Dev Saab ka subtle and dignified romance
    The list can go on but I will end with ” Ajeeb Dastaan hai , Kaha Shuru aur Kaha Katam, Yeh Manzilen” . Krishna Banu , Dekha agar lyrics acha ho tho, MD’s ko life easy ho jata and I can end this article with the opening lines of DAPP.

    Comment by gajanan — April 19, 2007 @ 7:03 am | Reply

  242. Murty Ji,

    Thanks for sharing information on Film Fare Awards.

    Recently we watched the new movie Bhagam Bhag. The movie was funny but the music was just horrible in sharp contrast with the old movie which had good music (by OP).

    Some time back you talked about a movie “Jaane Mehaboob”. I hope you will share a copy of this cassette with me. In my next trip to India, I hope to meet you and others. I do not have songs of old movies such as, Mr and Mrs. Cartoon M.A., Quaidi, Johnny Walker, Mangu etc. I hope to find some one who has those songs and who is willing to share.

    Yesterday, I spoke to another die-hard fan of O.P. This gentleman lives in St. Louis. It seems he was visiting Bombay in 1996 and was in that city for a couple of days. He contacted O.P. by phone and asked if O.P. would have time to meet him. It seems O.P. told him “just come over”. This gentleman was with O.P. for almost two hours. They conversed and O.P. gave him an autograph. It seems O.P. told him he has quit posing for photos with visitors.

    Did you get a chance to tape Tribute to O.P.?

    Lastly, I would like to thank you for showing understanding, consideration and spirit of accomodation in your e-mails. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 19, 2007 @ 7:16 am | Reply

  243. Good Morning Gajanan Ji,

    Thanks for putting together a long and detailed letter on the importance of lyrics in the success of songs. However, no body is attempting to answer my question. Why did the film makers gradually shun SJ after one of them died.

    As I mentioned I left India in 1971 and in those days there was no internet and communications were very poor. Can you believe a call to India cost me $3 per minute in 1972 where as now it is about 7 cents a minute.

    I respect for you and others who seem to be cherishing SJ’s musical scores. Some how I have no burning desire to listen to their compositions where as if you mention O.P. and SD (in that order), I would love to listen their works.

    Please accept my sincere thanks for the illuminating and delightful letters you are sending us.

    Have a nice day.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 19, 2007 @ 7:39 am | Reply

  244. After Laxmikant died in 1998, Pyarelal stopped making music and retired from the limelight Lines from
    http://ia.rediff.com/movies/2007/feb/05pyarelal.htm.

    Aabhi ka interview hai. So you must ask Pyarelalji your question, Krishna Baru. There must be something , some emotional bond as SJ’s music itself. Or as the famous song goes from Dosti LP ‘s music ” Rahi Manva Dukh ki Chinta kyo Satati Hai, Dukh tho Aapna saathi hai” must have hit Pyarelal as well as Shankar of SJ. Pyarelal, will be the best person to answer this question, since most of the writers in this section must be connoiseurs of music and lyrics and not MD’s themselves. There is brilliant proverb in Sanskrit ” It is not good to talk about the medicine, but experience it” Agar ek patient ke saamne Dawa ka bottle hi dikhate jayo, tho kya phayda , hai ki nai, dawa administer karna chahiye. Pooch lo Pyarelalji se.

    Comment by gajanan — April 19, 2007 @ 8:00 am | Reply

  245. I guess now that I cannot meet O.P. in my next trip, I will try to meet with Pyarelalji.

    My father liked a song which went some thing like this “Chaman mae rahikae veerana, mera dil koka ja tha hi”. Probably the singer was Shamsad Begum. Does any one know this song? Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 19, 2007 @ 8:21 am | Reply

  246. Krishna Ji,

    I converted the Jaane Meheboob cassette into MP3 cd and today only i have sent all the song files to you and Curaoji by email. I am trying to upload the same in internet. After successful uploading i will inform everybody.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 19, 2007 @ 9:59 am | Reply

  247. tHANK YOU MURTY GARU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TROUBLE.
    Iam first thanking you after seeing your message here. I am yet to see mail and download the songs.

    Comment by curao — April 19, 2007 @ 5:30 pm | Reply

  248. Yes, Krishna baruji, Chaman mein rehake veerana is by Shamshad, a very good song of Deedar and of course music by Naushad. Deedar was so famous for his wonderful songs, the most immortal song being Bachpanke din by Shamshad and Lata.

    Comment by curao — April 19, 2007 @ 5:35 pm | Reply

  249. Krishan Baruji,
    I wish to refer to your posts earlier in this. I did not refer to LP or even RDB, simply because my exposure to them was very little. Like you, I also stopped following hindi film music then because iwas busy in my carreer. So, it wont be proper for me to comment. also, I wanted to limit myself to the period, 1945-1975 mostly. Yes, salil chowdhury Was an unintentional omission. My criterion for selection for the top 5 was simply this: Who has the most No. of pleasing to me? not whether they are popular or not. SJ and OP top the list and others follow. But OP is special to me.
    I completely agree with you on Bhagam bhag of OP. If any one can dig old FilmFares, you will find the review of Bhagambhag, where its music was praised as much as Nagin!!!I remeber The reviewer used almost the same eulogies.
    And i fully agree with you about lobbying and manipulation in awards. Especially, Ek musfir not getting the best music award and Professor getting it. Though I am not against SJ as such, My own personal opinion is that ek musafir is far superior to Professor. I rate even Anpadh Over Professor.

    Comment by curao — April 19, 2007 @ 6:00 pm | Reply

  250. Through your post 241, you have tried to give some primary lessons to those who don’t know anything about hindi film music. Apart from the songs that you have mentioned (all are very beautifully composed songs) let me ask these so-called music lovers if they have heard the music of Patrani, Seema, Mayurpankh, Basant bahar, Shikast, Nagina, Aashiq, Kathputli, karorepati…..the list is endless. And there response would be…..”is naam se bhi koi picture aayee thi kya?” Many composers such as K-A and L-P without much sucess tried to emulate them…in fact the whole music of ‘Chaliya’ was based on S-J style and you see the result yourself. So strong was their influence that Late Laxmikant used to dress like
    Jaikishan. The trouble with this world is that who don’t know are cocksure and the intelligent people full of doubt. But we should never underestimate the power of such people because they are very large in numbers.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 19, 2007 @ 6:56 pm | Reply

  251. Krishnaji,
    I believe Jaikishan played a central role in churning out tunes and maintaining/developing rapport with the producers. Shankar composed many hit too but he did lot of background music. Several trends changed in the early 70s that put SJ on the back burner even before Jaikishan died.

    – New crop of actors replaced the older actors that danced to SJ tunes – Shammi Kapoor, Raj Kapoor, Rajendra Kumar, etc. were replaced by Rajesh Khanna, Amitabh, Sanjeev Kummar, Dharmendra, etc. singing tunes of the newer MDs

    – Newer crop of MDs was the preferred choice of the producers – Although RD started in 1963, he started making impact only after Teesri Manzil in 1967/68. Aradhna had SDs composition, but RD recorded most of the songs for Shakti Samanta. Thereafter RD was Shakti Samanta’s choice. Interestingly Shakti Samanta had OP in Howrah Bridge, Kashmir ki kali, Sawan ki Ghata. LP was SJ’s protégé who kept up with the trends – they were slowing creeping up with hits in the late 60s such as Aaye din bahar ke, Aaya sawan jhoom ke, Pyar kiye ja, Dosti, Mere humdam mere dost, Humjoli, Jine ki rah, Farz, etc. KA also gave many hits. Rajesh Roshen (LP’s assistant) entered the scene too.

    – Kishore Kumar replaced Rafi as the choice of the Producers – newer actors were singing Kishore Kumar. SJ made few Kishore Kumar songs – Andaz (zindagi Ek Safar), Dil Daulat Aur Duniya, Aakhon Aakhon Mae, Kal Aaj aur Kal, etc. – but it didn’t do much at the box office. Producers lined up with LP, RD, KA, and Rajesh Roshen. When RK approached LP for Bobby, LP refused to accept the movie insisting that they were SJ’s protégé and that they were not comfortable. It was only after RK approached Mukesh and asked him to persuade LP that they accepted the movie.

    – New trend in Films – Aradhna, Kati Patang, Johnny Mera Naam, Do Raste, Dushman, Hare Ram Hare Krishna, Sachha Jutha, Bobby, Sholey, Zanjeer, Safar, Yadon Ki Baraat, etc. Johnny Mera Naam and Mera Naam Jokar were released around the same time but MNJ flopped miserably while JMN was a mega hit.

    It’s interesting that the newer MDs were replaced by yet newer MDs such as Anand Milind, Anu Malik, Nadeem Shravan, etc. So the cycle goes on. LP did manage to survive for a long time though competing with Nadeem Sharavan, etc.

    Comment by Hemat — April 20, 2007 @ 2:57 am | Reply

  252. Arunji. Some have their icons like we have personal gods in Hindu Religion. It’s pure Bhakti Yoga. I had friend from TN. He used to like a particular hero and his brother another hero. Dono me itni tu tu mai mai hoti ti, ki ek din dono, mara mari me uthar pade. We had to bring neighbours and there was so much shor gul due to this in the neighbourhood , baap re baap.

    If they do not like some MD, Ki Phrakh padta hai duniya ko. Saab sunne wale hi hai agar music achha hai. In fact when I had gone on overseas tour to Sri Lanka, lo behold , there was a group singing the tune of Ramayya Vasta Vayya. In fact one gentleman wanted me to give the original meaning of lyrics of the Hindi song. I remembered one line which is so touching in that song , I write it here. ” Us desh me, pardesh me , sone chandi ke liye bikh the hai dil. Is gaon me , dard ki chao me , pyar pyar hi kahta hai har ek dil” The gentleman when he heard the meaning started weeping , he hugged me. Then he immediately started singing the same tune in his language and wanted me to join. All members ( 6 of us) joined in to dance. The man and his friends told me that this tune is like an anthem for them and we all feel happy to sing this tune when we celebrate an occasion. I feel one should not get perturbed over this.

    OPN is OPN , SJ is SJ , SD is SD …..

    Comment by gajanan — April 20, 2007 @ 8:36 am | Reply

  253. Gajananji,

    I totally agree with you that everyone is entitled to nurse his own choice. IF Someone like Himesh Reshamiyya, well, that’s his problem but why to write such rubbish that S-J were rough with the instruments and were making hell of the noise and someone calling them bandmasters? I want to know from that gentleman who is that “someone?” What you write or hemant writes or for that matter Ashraft writes, one may not agree with you all but you all give some evidence to support your arguements. That’s fine. No hard feelings. You all are entitled to your views….one may agree one may not agree “lekin agar koi hawa mein hi talwaar laharaeya to uska jawab to dena padega.”

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 20, 2007 @ 10:50 am | Reply

  254. I understand your feelings. Arunji . This is the age when some minds have little little WMD( Weapons of Mass Delusion).
    Defintely Raaja Ki Ayegi Baarat and O Basanti ( Jish desh me ….) is not Bandmaster category. Note the capital B

    Comment by gajanan — April 20, 2007 @ 11:16 am | Reply

  255. Why only raja ki aayegi baarat and o basanti…. what about these(APART FROM R.K.)….
    LATA
    1.Mere sapnon mein aana re…………….Rajhath
    2.Tune haaye mere zakhme-jigar ko chhoo liya……Nagina
    3. Lagakar dil parashan hai……….Naya ghar
    4.Jhoome jhoome dil mera………….Poonam
    5.Kahe jhoom-jhoom raat ye suhaani…love-marriage
    6.Humse na poochho koi pyaar kya hai…Kali ghata
    7.Rasil balma…….Chori Chori
    8. Manre tu hi bataa kya gaoon….Humrahi
    9.Ja ja re ja baalamwa………Basant Bahaar
    10.Bol ri kathputli dori…….Kathputli

    and i will go on and on and on. In one of your post you have mentioned the song of Dil Apna Aur Preet Parai. There was one another song it this picture…… “andaaz mera mastaana”…..and four different ‘laggis’ were played on the line “Mera dil kahan hai”whenever it gets repeated
    in the song. Ask DATTARAM he would give you more information on it.

    ANDAAZ MERA MASTANA……S-J seem to say in every beat of their songs.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 20, 2007 @ 12:25 pm | Reply

  256. I am not at liberty to name who referred to SJ as BANDMASTERS because that person is not alive to defend himself. At one stage, two MDs exchanged verbal volleys. SJ called him as some one who lifts Western music. In reply, the other MD coined SJ as Band Masters. I can list songs where the use of instruments have been rough but I am not interested in going any further. CASE IS CLOSED.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 20, 2007 @ 4:56 pm | Reply

  257. Cu Rao Ji,

    Thanks for your note on Deedar. In memory of my father, I will add Deedar Songs to my hunt list.

    Did you get any reply on your request on Naya Dur song Saathi haath badhana.
    I am sure after the release of Naya Daur’s remake in color, CDs may be available with complete sound track. I have the LP and I will be very happy to share the songs.

    Please let me know if any thing is being done in memory of O.P. Most probably, some action has to originate from Mumbai.

    Thanks to all of you.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 20, 2007 @ 6:26 pm | Reply

  258. Hi Hemant Ji,

    Your wrote an excellent letter on the changes that happened in the Hindi Film music.

    I will stay in touch with you through personal e-mail. Thanks again. Have a great weekend.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 20, 2007 @ 6:54 pm | Reply

  259. Krishan baruji,
    no, I did not get any response for my request for the 2nd part of Saathi hath badhana (Sathi hath rehana sathire).
    you said that you will be hunting for Deedar songs. I have 9 songs of Deedar. If you want any from them i will be happy to send.

    Comment by curao — April 22, 2007 @ 10:11 am | Reply

  260. Arunji,
    though you said that you can go on and on abt SJ’s great Latas, I still like to mention 2 story songs which captivated my heart.
    1. Mohobbat ki daastan aaj suno yeh mohobbatki daastan suno-Mayur pankh
    2. Suno chotisi ki gudiyan ki lambi kahani from Seema
    Who bothers abt instruments when Lata sings like that? There is no need for any instruments. Yes we can go on and on.
    The first from Mayurpankh particularly in front of Taj mahal. In fact, all songs of Mayur pankh were great. I rate it on par with chori chori.
    Undoubtedly, SJ enjoyed and benefited from many advantages, definitely notundeservedly. Great singing by Lata, Mukhesh and patronage from Great producers.

    Comment by curao — April 22, 2007 @ 10:24 am | Reply

  261. Kaveetaji,
    Iam referring to Your post in 181 here. abt the song “Tum mujhe bhool bhi jaao” by Sudha. I have that song , but by Sudha and Mukhesh . no? From film Didi , music by Sudha malhotra herself? No?
    pl. dont hesitate to correct me if I am wrong

    Comment by curao — April 22, 2007 @ 10:58 am | Reply

  262. Arunji, Iam sorry i missed your reply to Kaveetaji abt Tum mujhe bhool bhi by sudha. any way I am glad iam correct also. Thinking that noone replied to that, i replied again.
    curao

    Comment by curao — April 22, 2007 @ 11:24 am | Reply

  263. mr.curao,
    you are 100 percent correct …..these are gem of the songs and both are set in ‘bhairavi’—–S-J’s favourite raag. other songs of lata based on bhairavi are…..barsaat mein humse mile tum sajan, jiya beqaraar hai, mujhe kisise pyaar ho gaya, mein piya teri tu maane ya na maane(basant bahar), kisi ne apna bana ke mujhoo (patita), tujhe aur kya doon mein dil ke siwa(aai milan ki bela), are tu kahan kho gaya balam matwara(singapore), dil apna aur preet paraai…..and so on. one must understand that singers have to follow the instructions of music-director. they are the creators ….. singers have to just follow their instructions. theirs tunes are so melodious that lata seems to be extra-sweet in their compositions. the maestro must have been under a divine spell when creating the music.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 22, 2007 @ 11:26 am | Reply

  264. Dear Friends,
    Iam desperately searching for some songs for many years without success.
    1. Jaateho to jaoo kar jaooge kahan by Geetha from Milap
    2. Nainon ko mushkurake le by Rafi-Shamshad from Musafirkhana
    and the songs from Johny Walker. I have only “thandi thandi hawan” from that film. I will be greatly indebted to any one who can send me these songs. My email addr. is>cumrao@yahoo.com

    Comment by curao — April 22, 2007 @ 11:40 am | Reply

  265. some of raag based tune created by late o.p. nayyar(we all know that he had not received any training in classical music)…..this is what we call ‘inborn’ quality…..without knowing any raga he created such masterpieces….

    1.piya piya na laage mora jiya piloo
    2. mein soya ankhiyan meeche piloo
    3.aap yunhi agar humse milte rahe kedar
    4.humko tumhaare ishq ne kya kya bana diya kedar
    5.jaaiye aap kahan jaaengein piloo
    6.mein pyaar ka raahi hoon kirwaani
    7.pukaarta chala hoon mein kirwaani
    8.gareeb jaan ke humko na tum bhairavi
    9.kahin aar kahin paar laaga teere nazar piloo
    10.man mora baanwaraa tilang
    11.chhota sa baalma tilang
    12.raat bhar ka hai mehmaan andhera jogiya
    13.tu hi mera prem devta lalit
    14.chal akela chal akela chal akela bhairavi
    sun

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 22, 2007 @ 12:28 pm | Reply

  266. Some body else has said Bandmaster. That happens due to professional jealousy. I remember. Pradeep Kumar had some of the best songs. But they used to sing as if they were doing mass drill. Aaaye Bahar Gham Kile, Inteezar ki. An excellent song , but the hero was doing mass drill. This was a comment by a journalist. I do not remember the name , but this was yrs back. But the masses did not feel that way. They just went for the songs.

    Comment by gajanan — April 23, 2007 @ 3:52 am | Reply

  267. Gajananji,

    what to say of individuals, these great singers like lata and asha themselves are biased in their views. For lata there is only one Madan Mohan and her brother hrydainath (we all know the contribution of Hrydainath in film music) and for Asha there is always RDB as if no other music-director existed on this earth. But genuine listner’s are not fools. They have been listening these
    old songs for years ” AUR UNKO CHHILLKE KO ANAAJ SE ALAG KARNA AATA HAI”. I am in no-way underestimating the contribution of MM and RDB. But bu discarding Husnlal-Bhagatram, Shankar-Jaikishan, Naushaad, SD Burman, OP Nayyar what point they are going to prove?

    This new generation from “lallu to panju” is praising RDB. why? Because their icons are praising them. I ask this new breed of listners have they heard the music of 50’s and 60’s? The blame entirely goes on HMV. There is only handful of music available….no Husnlal-Bhagatram,
    no SN Tripathy, no Hemant Kumar, no N.Dutta, no Hansraj Behl, no Anil Biswaas,
    no Usha Khanna…….even very few works of s-j, sd and op are there. You may like someone more than others but you have certainly no right to neglect them
    or belittle them “Ek sher yaad aa rahaa hai…..

    YE JO INSAAN KI FITRAT MEIN TARAFDARI HAI
    YE KAATIL HAI, SHARMNAAK HAI, BEEMARI HAI

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 23, 2007 @ 9:34 am | Reply

  268. Arun , what you say is right. Hemant Kumar had a voice which could lift you.

    yaa dil kii suno duniyaavaalo.n
    yaa mujhako abhii chup rahane do
    mai.n Gam ko khushii kaise kah duu.N
    jo kahate hai.n unako kahane do

    Film : Anupama, Music Hemant Kumar. Infact the last line by Kaifi Azmi is apt for your piece of write up. One thing I cannot understand is why Ashaji is so quiet about her gratitude towards OPN. Everybody has differences of opinion on many issues , but one cannot forget a MD who tuned your voice. If Ashaji reminisces about OPN , even one good line, you see the record companies and even many influential individuals will speed up the web site for OPN. We only hope this happens and web site for OPN will come asap.
    About Madan Mohan , he was also class , and he had ghazal style for his songs , which caught the listener , who had an appetite for an intellectual diet. This Anpadh song , which Lataji has sung extremely well is testimony to Madanji’s greatness. Again Raja Mehdi Ali Khans lyrics a la Shailendra does the magic.

    aapakii nazaro.n ne samajhaa, pyaar ke kaabil mujhe….

    I will continue …..

    Comment by gajanan — April 23, 2007 @ 11:48 am | Reply

  269. OP Nayyar once said if there was no Mohd Rafi, there ould not be an OP Nayyar. I feel that it was Rafi who sang the maximum number of songs for OP nayyar, and that it was RAFI not Asha who was responsible for his great success, as evidenced by OP Nayyar’quote above. Mohd Rafi songs from Kashmir Ki Kali, Tumsa Nahee Dekha, Naya Daur Daur, EK Musafir Ek Hasina, and other films were super hits. These songs are gems and will never ever become stale as the songs of today’s films do.

    Comment by Asif — April 24, 2007 @ 2:17 am | Reply

  270. Yes Rafi was responsible for so many MD’s success. He has sung from Dulari ” Suhani Raat Dal Chuki (Naushad) to ” Aasman se aaya Farishta (Evening in Paris). Rafi played a stellar role for OPN, Is me koyi doubt nahi hai.

    But the point is that Asha’s voice was tuned in by OPN, which is the crux of present arguement for gratitude.

    Comment by gajanan — April 24, 2007 @ 6:21 am | Reply

  271. My dear,

    don’t be so callous towards Asha. Music-directiors do say these things when they are overwhelmed by any singer during recording. Rafi sang very emotionally under op, there is no doubt about it but Asha never sang so beautifully and with such grace ,elan and verve before or after the 0PN period. Few examples….

    1. Bekasi hud se jab gujar jaaye
    2. Chhota sa bbalma
    3. yehi wo jagah hai yehi wo fizaaein
    4. Barso re bairi badarwa barso re
    5. Piya piya na laage mora jiya
    6.Ye hai raishmi zulfon ka andhera
    7.Jaayye aap kahan jaayeinge
    8.Raaton ko chori-chori
    9.Aao huzoor tumko sitaare mein
    10.Koi keh de keh de keh de zamaane se jaake
    11.Jadoogar saanwariya kaisi taan sunaai tune
    12.Bol pardesiyaa ye tune kya kiya
    13.Thodi der aur baithho chale hi to jaaoge
    14.Tum na aaye ghata gham ki chhane lagi……

    Listen these songs after taking a sip or two and you will be transported to another world.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 24, 2007 @ 11:37 am | Reply

  272. Aao huzoor tumko sitaare mein
    Huzoor tho sitaron mein hai sitara baankar, paar dharti ka sitara has been very quiet.

    You are very right about Ashaji and OPN’s songs. Arun.

    This line sung by Kishore in Piya Piya song from Baap re Baap is really high funda of OPN . Kishore even in that pace rukh rukh ke words pronounce karta hai. 1955 ka song hai ye. Kya recording hai, even at that time. Hats of to OPN.

    ye rut man bhaati ye din madmaate
    o dekho gori ham tum chale hain hanste gaate

    Comment by gajanan — April 24, 2007 @ 12:47 pm | Reply

  273. Gajanan,

    In music industry singers use composers as ladders. When composers are at their peak they hover around them and in bad times they refuses to recognise them. This is the way of the world. Lata and Asha is no exception to this. What Lata did to Husnlal-bhagatram and Shanker-Jaikishan Asha did to OP Nayyar.

    The song you referred ” Aapki nazaron ne samjha pyar ke kaabil hamen” is like a kohinoor diamond that Madan Mohan created. After hearing this song Great Naushad told to MM…..” mera sara music le lo aur ye gaana mujhe de do”. “Is tarah ke log the, full of humility”. ” ab aise logon ko khuda ne banaana chhod diya hai”.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 24, 2007 @ 1:44 pm | Reply

  274. In respect to comments on Lata that she is keeping mum about her association with SJ, I heard that SJ and Lata developed rift some time before Mera Naam Joker songs were recorded. As a result, SJ did not use Lata for MNJ. Can any one of you confirm this story?

    Have a nice day.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 25, 2007 @ 7:04 am | Reply

  275. Gajanan,

    Through your post you have made two thought provoking points that Asha’s voice was tuned in by OPN and why she is so quiet about her gratitude towards OPN…. It is only because both Lata and Asha have displayed shameful ingratitude to their original mentors. When a wet-behind-the-ears Lata crooned for “Mahal” and made her presence felt , it was ‘Barsaat’ which took her to dizzy heights. Followed ‘AWAARA’,’SHRI 420′,’Chori-Chori,’Patita’, and many other S-J marvels and soon enough Lata left everyone including Shamshad, Suraiya and Geeta. Lata was groomed by S-J and Rajkapoor and some of the most melliflous songs in the Lata reportiere are product of this association. From “Ab raat guzarne wali hai” to “O basanti pawan paagal” Lata couldn’t have done better.

    And at the other end OPN was grooming Asha. Teaching her to take those “murkis”, blend the mischievous with the coquettish and training her in breath
    control. The only records of Asha that were sold between 1956 to 1964 invariably had the compositions of OPN; otherwise no music director ever took her in the lead voice. But look at the post RD Asha of today; she pretends as if no one by the name of OP Nayyar ever existed.

    Same goes for her elder sister Latabai.In a bid to promote her brother Hridaynath and some of the lesser music directors she donned the mantle of a godmother and in all her concerts, interviews,interfaces she would never refer to Shankar-Jaikishan. As if S-J needed the promotion from an ungrateful wench. Her voice started cracking but she would not leave the mike till she ran hoarse ; and the uncritical crowds would give standing ovation,concert after concert and like the fool in King Lear she would perceive the sychophancy as appreciation. Eventually, the myth was broken; she realised much to her dismay that good times do not last for ever. But till she held sway, she saw to it that no credit ever went to S-J.

    These are great artistes with small hearts. But to be a complete artist, you have to be a good human being as well. Look at Rajkapoor, Ashok kumar, Dilip Kumar……all legends in their lifetime but they all were
    wonderful human beings. Raj Kapoor bowed before Kedar Sharma till the very end. Even when Nargis split up with him, not one word against her in print or otherwise. And today we have the likes of Amitabh Bachchan who settles personal scores on the wedding of his son. This is because like Lata and Asha, Amitabh also is a great atist but someone with a small heart.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 25, 2007 @ 2:39 pm | Reply

  276. Thw whole atitude in India is changing be it cine field and in many other fields. About Raj Kapoor , you have written rightly. His openness and concern for his studio workers is worth writing a script for a movie. I do not know who can act like Raj Kapoor. Someone from the Kapoor family. Many Indians including me , think that any achievement by an individual is his or her achievement and nobody ever supported them or made them into what they are today. I have seen this in many areas of work. It is very sad to see this happen in the land of Guru-Shishya Parampara. Wrong imports from western culture has led to this.

    Comment by gajanan — April 26, 2007 @ 6:56 am | Reply

  277. Mr Arun Bajaj’s comments on the ungrateful behaviour of Lata and Asha towards their musical mentors is absolutely correct. Lata tried to run down “main kya karoon raam mujhe buddha mil gaya” after the record sold like hot cakes in 1964 and she got a fat sum in royalty. Then she fought with Raj Kapoor, Shankar and then Mohd Rafi because none of them pandered to the queen bee like attitude of hers. Even today she tries to act and behave like a prima donna. She opposes construction of a flyover because that would affect her voice. Can anyone be more selfish and even more ridiculous ?

    Comment by vinod agrawal — April 27, 2007 @ 3:59 pm | Reply

  278. In a concert at Chicago, Illinois held years ago (middle of 1970s), Kishore and Lata entertained the crowd. However, what we noticed was that though Kishore was standing by the side of Lata, he was not in line with her and was a few steps behind her. Throughout the concert, Kishore treated Lata as a queen and he was her subject. Every one in the cine field allowed Lata to control and dominate. I bet Lata due to her popularity and control techniques did not allow other singers such as, Suman Kalyanpur and Sudha Malhotra to come up. It is well known even a fatherly figure like SD had problems with Lata. I don’t think Lata had any respect for any one. Afterall, it is her voice that is selling the records as she believed. Here, we have to keep in mind two things.

    Firstly, hats off to my O.P. who withstood pressure from leading cine producers and directors at the cost of his career and refused to work with Lata. Here, the story was that Lata did not show up for OP’s recording and he was upset about being kept waiting. I read somewhere that Lata indicated that she was running behind with numerous recordings and she was too scared to explain her inability to record that day for O.P. In interviews, O.P. subsequently,indicated that he felt Lata’s voice was not suitable for his type of music so he did not attempt to use her voice. For Naya Daur, O.P. risked losing the contract after he turned down numerous requests from the producer to have Lata sing songs for the movie.

    Secondly, we have to be happy that Lata did not interfere with the development of Asha’s talent by O.P. and SD (and to lesser extent by Ravi).

    After O.P. broke off with Asha, both sisters (Asha and Lata) were openly putting pressure on the studios management and musicians from working with O.P.

    I believe O.P. was emotionally drained (because of Asha nd his family issues)and he could not keep his mind and heart in music so he eventually pulled down the curtain on his career.

    Let us be patient for a few more years, Asha will be history.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 27, 2007 @ 4:52 pm | Reply

  279. I guess I need to explain by what I meant by “Let us be patient for a few more years, Asha will be history”. What I implied is that she cannot sing for ever and cannot be in lime light for ever.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 28, 2007 @ 5:37 am | Reply

  280. I appreciate Mr Krishna Baru’s comments on the chameleonic stance of the Mangeshkar sisters which not only impacted O P Nayyar’s turbulent career but also of numerous other talented playback singers whom the Czarina got thrown out. Sai Paranjype alone had the guts to expose the true character of Lata in SAAZ but the movie was almost boycotted by the big daddies of the industry. After that none dared to rock the boat. Almost the same syndrome is now being played out in the case of Amitabh Bachchan who has managed to terrorise the entire Industry with his political and business connections. Amitabh is no longer a draw at the box-office: his recent Family, Kyo ho gaya na, Viruddh, Eklavya, Nishabd all have miserably flopped. Not satisfied with being a mere actor, when he threatens to sing with his off-key voice, the connoisseurs almost begin to faint but there is no stopping him. And such is the vicious mechanism of Marketing that in the music shops, O P Nayyar’s music may not be available but Amitabh’s songs are.

    The progressive decline in the quality of music, lyrics, playback singing and also in the movie content has happened because today’s movie moghuls are pandering to the “NRI home-sickness market” and not portraying the real India which manifests itself in mofussil towns, villages and the local bazaars. When you watch Sri 420 or Jagte Raho or Boot Polish or Do Bigha Zamin, you see the India of the 1950s.Do we get to see today’s India in today’s cinema ? Is there any involvement with any kind of social issues ? How great music can be born on trivialities ? You need a theme and a film like a Pyaasa and a Awara so that great music can be composed. I have yet to come across a Bandini, Sujata, Madhumati, Anari or Guide in the last several years. Not even a Anand which again had excellent music. I firmly believe that you need great films to inspire music directors to give great music. The poppy bubblegum type of music has no shelf life.

    Comment by vinod agrawal — April 28, 2007 @ 4:54 pm | Reply

  281. Very true Vinod ji.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 28, 2007 @ 5:05 pm | Reply

  282. Vinodji you are 100% correct.

    Comment by gajanan — April 29, 2007 @ 7:02 am | Reply

  283. Yes, Vinodji,
    The opinions expressed by you more tellingly in Para 2 ae absolutely true. Even though Murtyji and Gajananji expressed their complete concurrence with you, I am not hesitating to add mine, as it expresses so effectively our own views on contemporary music and values in general.
    I just put one question to the young of today: We fondly remember songs, films, performances of artists nearly 50 years ago. Do you think it likely that what are supposed to be hits of today by ARR etc. will be remebered so fondly, let alone 50 years, even 5 years from now?
    Instant success of transitory, titilating effects wont last long, if values and quality are lacking. Can any one think of making films like Jaagte raho, Do Ankhen.., Jaagrithi etc. now?
    Our own elders, I very well remember, did not think about the music of 50s to 70s as we are thinking of present day music.

    Comment by curao — April 29, 2007 @ 9:26 am | Reply

  284. I like to add a few tit bits, for no other purpose than passing on info.
    1. In a recent on-line poll conducted by Indian screen,the still living singers, lyricists, MDs, producers(total 20 in no.), including Asha and Lata were asked to pick 20 best songs of all time. The results were truly surprising if not altogether ridiculous.
    They picked up 3 songs from Guide, total 5 of SDB, 3 of MM, just one each from Ghulam mohd, Husnlal-bhagatram, Naushad, Hridayanath, Hemant, etc. What really stunned many people was the fact that there was not a single song from CR, OP,SJ,LP,RDB.
    To the fans of Guide-SDB, i only say this. They are undoubtedly very good, But do they deserve to exclude all the great creations of the excluded stalwarts?
    2. Every one knows that Lata once said that Aayega anewala of Mahal was her best ever. But much later she changed that and said that 2 songs of Black Cat were her best. Mai thumhi thumhise and chale aao chale aao.
    3. The only little acknowledgemnt Asha ever gave to OP was some time after Tumsa nahin dekha. She said her best ever and most difficult(upto that time) song was Man More gaa of Mangu!
    These are instances to show that they are not really serious but say whatever that comes to their mind at that time. Of course, I am not saying that the songs mentioned are not great. They really are. But, asked another time they would have told differently.

    Comment by curao — April 29, 2007 @ 9:50 am | Reply

  285. Krishna baruji,
    You said that SJ were over-rated in your post no 240. Though i place SJ at the top, I think there is at least two instances of over-rating.
    1. The first was Chori chori against C.I.D.in filmfare awards. By no. of votes, the order of films was C.I.D., Chori chori and Azad. We, OP fans, were expecting C.I.D. would win. But the final award, as decided by a panel, went to chori chori. Really, no regrets over that. Its really a toss-up between the two. I can not definitely say that SJ were favoured. But, why should the panel be there at all for final decision? why not let it go as per votes?
    2. The 2nd instance was one which i totally disagree (not that it matters ) was the case of Professor winning. What we were expecting were Ek Musafir ek Hasina. The songs were so refreshing, all songs were excellent, where OP sounded a little different and refined and mature.
    I do think, OP not taking Lata definitely played a role in his being under rated through his carreer, as most people were loyal to Lata.

    Comment by curao — April 29, 2007 @ 10:21 am | Reply

  286. Arunji,
    Let me show my apreciation of your praise for Aapki nazaron ne sanzha of Anpadh here, so others too can do so. Yes, you said Kohinoor very aptly. a devine song. It is not just a feather in MMs cap, but a jewel in his crown.
    Pl see my previous post and one much earlier. This song alone is worth half the weight of Professor, which won the Filmfare award that year. This and the other songs of Anpadh should have won over Professor, if not Ek Musafir Ek Hasina of OP.
    Many people do not agree with my view, I know. But dont under-estimate my admiration for SJ, Arunji.They were the greatest, but……

    Comment by curao — April 29, 2007 @ 10:35 am | Reply

  287. Friends, pl. forgive me for posting so many. I have such a passion for Hindi old songs in general and OP in particular, that i cant restrain my-self from posting my heart out at my old age of 68. I cant get any of my childhood OP-fans to share with, as they left following songs.
    Krishna Baruji, thank you for calling “my OP”. Iam also of the same category, who can boldly say “my OP too”. OP-mad you can say.

    Comment by curao — April 29, 2007 @ 10:44 am | Reply

  288. Curao Ji,

    It appears as though you have some thing for every body in your letters. Though, I seem to differ rather sharply at times from others, I love reading letters from all of you. I have to acknowledge all of you are well informed and well versed with ragas and music. So please keep writing as I log at least twice a day to visit this site.

    As you have pointed out, O.P. paid a very steep price for distancing himself from Lata and other moguls of the cine industry. Even Guru Dutt chose to pass up Nayyar and rely on SD. After his rebirth as MD in Ek Musafir Ek Hasina, O.P. had to work with second rate heroes (Joy Mukherji, Bisawasjeet, Manoj Kumar, Deb Mukerji). Only exceptions were Kashmiri Ki Kali and Baharen Phir Bi Ayengi.

    Inspite of all obstacles, O.P. thrived and earned a place in the annals of history.

    It appears Lata and Asha were antagonized by SJ and OP, respectively to such an extent that Lata does not want to talk about SJ and Asha continues to ignore OP. We truly do not know the human dynamics of these situations. Lata made up for the pitfalls of her younger sister by paying tribute to OP.
    Let us continue to play the songs and enjoy them without worrying about the M sisters and what they are saying and not saying publicly.

    Another point I want to share with all of you is that in addition to my sister, my wife enjoys some of SJ’s musical creations. I stay quiet when she plays SJ songs.

    One of the movies not figuring much in our conversations is Ek Bar Mooskura Do. Just curious to hear opinions from all of you. Please mention which songs were hits. I was a student in U.S. when this movie was released and I had to wait for a few months to hear the songs of this movie. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 29, 2007 @ 9:24 pm | Reply

  289. 1 Chehre Se Zara Aanchal – Mukesh & Asha
    Chodo ge Na-na ….. Ek Baar Muskaro Do

    2 Ek Bar Mooskura Do (Ek Bar Mooskura Do)
    Asha Bhosle, Kishore Kumar

    3. Roop Tera Aisa Darpan Me Na Samaye (Ek Bar Mooskura Do) Kishore Kumar

    4. Kitne Atal Thay Tere Irade (Ek Bar Mooskura Do) Asha Bhosle, Kishore Kumar

    5. Savere Ka Suraj (Ek Bar Mooskura Do)
    Kishore Kumar

    6. Zamane Ki Ankhon Ne Dekha Hai Yard (Ek Bar Mooskura Do) Mohd. Rafi

    7. Kitne Atal Thay Tere Irade… (Ek Bar Mooskura Do) Kishore Kumar ( Kishore sings alone)

    8. Ye Dil Lekar Nazrana (Ek Bar Mooskura Do)
    Asha Bhosle, Mukesh

    In this movie Kishore sings with great passion and and he truly lived up to his reputation during that Aradhana , Kati Patang days ( Oh!! Yeh Jo Mohabbat hai— Yeh unka hai ….What way Kishore has sung this song , Hai Funda, Of course music here by RD). IN EBMD , OPN has proved what a self taught genius he was. Song no 3 & 5. Roop tera aaisa and Savera ka Sooraj is set in classical style, esp Savera ka Sooraj. Why shout slogans for the useless politicians of the world. Just say Pyar se. ” Jab tak Sooraj Chand rahega , OPN ka music Amar rahege” When I listen to these songs, I get destressed and I am ready to work with renewed enthu.

    Comment by gajanan — April 30, 2007 @ 5:10 am | Reply

  290. SD Burman used kishore kumar’s voice very effectively as Shankar-Jaikishan used mukesh. S-J also used kishore kumar in some of their films but many music-lovers are not aware of that…..some of the obscure s-j-kishore kumar gems are….

    1.o meri maina…….kishore-rafi………..karorepati
    2.o ladke badhte badhte….kishore-lata……karorepati
    3.aaja raat beety jaaye….kishore-lata begunaah
    4.aaj na jaane paagal manwa…kishore…… begunaah
    5. rangoli sajaao re……..kishore……… rangoli
    6. chhoti si ye duniya…… kishore………rangoli
    7.tune mera dil liya……..kishore-geeta….sharaarat
    8.milte hi nazar aap mere….kishore…….. new delhi
    9.arre bhai nikal ke aa ghar se….kishore…new delhi

    you may find “hum matwaale naujwaan” from sharaarat and “nakhrewaali” from new delhi after a hard search but songs of begunaah and karorepati are difficult to get.

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 30, 2007 @ 1:01 pm | Reply

  291. I concur with Mr Curao’s views as to how frequently the Mangeshkar sisters change their favourite maestros depending on who their current sycophants are. Both Lata and Asha are great artists but are extremely vain and petty-minded. Lata in particular has fought with O P Nayyar, Shankar Jaikishan, C Ramchandra, Raj Kapoor, Mohd Rafi, Suman Kalyanpur, and even with journalists like Raju Bharatan and Vishwas Nerurkar. She only wants fawning sycophants around and the latest find is a guy called Subhash Jha who compulsively writes more about himself than the music he feigns to review. This is the kind of cultural bandwagon which Mangeshkar sisters have introduced and legitimised in Bollywood. And now this abominable bandwagon has a new entrant called Amitabh Bachchan who by behaving insensitively and almost like royalty , (during the Abhishek wedding), has eminently qualified to become a member of this solipsistic Mangeshkar club. See the contrasts ! Amitabh’s father enjoyed the company of intellectuals and poets, the son has Amar Singh and Anil Ambani to cross-fertilise; Dr Bachchan was a rationalist with a scientific temper of mind, the son prostrates before all the temples in India with wife in tow, the father was against rituals and obscurantism, the son gets her daughter-in-law married to a tree or (was it two trees ?). Lata and Asha have petty minds, and for right or wrong it belongs to them but this gentleman does not seem to have a mind at all. I shudder to think that such a person is reckoned as our icon.

    Comment by vinod agrawal — April 30, 2007 @ 2:11 pm | Reply

  292. Gajanan Ji and all others,

    Thanks for your comments on EBMD. When I read a review of this movie in the Illustrated Weekly of India (almost three months after the issue was published) in a small college library in Minnesota, I was surprised and happy to read that O.P. diversified by using Kishore and Mukesh. May be Mukerjis influenced O.P. Some where O.P. mentioned that he has such high respect for Mukerjis that he would work for them for free.

    I have songs of New Delhi and Shararat and I am willing to share them. My niece told me that Rafi’s song in Shararat “Ajeeb Dastan Hi Theri Jindagi, Kabi .. ” was based on a western song. Is this true?

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 30, 2007 @ 4:44 pm | Reply

  293. mr. curao,

    i appreciate your view on MM….he was a class composer . i myself have a fairly large collection of his songs. but apart from adaalat, woh kaun thi, mera saaya, jahaan-aara and heer-ranjha …..latabai often repeats song of these films time and again in her concerts, following songs are in no way inferior in terms of quality…
    1.tu pyaar kare ya thhukraaye
    2. bairan neend na aaye
    3.sajana lagan teri sonein na de
    4. chaiin nahin aaye
    5. hum pyaar mein jalanewaalon ko
    6.chhod mujhe na jaana
    8.mere piya se koi jaa ke keh de
    9.qadar jaane na ho qadar jaane na
    10.dard ki ai raat guzar ja

    he also had a knack of creating funny songs with spontaneity…..

    bach gaye hum dono phaste-phaste, ai haseeno naazneeno, ek thha abdul rehmaan aur ek thhi abdul rehmaniya, sikander ne porus se ki thhi ladaai, dekhta chala gaya mein zindagi ki raah mein, bada hi cid hai wo neeli chhatri wala…..

    those were the good old days of hindi film songs

    Comment by arun bajaj — April 30, 2007 @ 6:15 pm | Reply

  294. Arunji, Yes, MM had many great songs to his credit
    I like to mention a few more nuggets of MM.
    1.Beraham Aasamaan by Talat from Bahana
    2.Woh jo milte hain kabhi-Lata-akeli mat jaiyyo
    3.Tujhe kya sunaoon-Rafi-Aakhri dao
    4.Humse na dilko-Madan mohan(?)_shamshad-Aankhen
    5. Teri nigahon mein-Talat_Lata-Bahana, another of those enchanting songs, I often mention.
    6.hum bulate rahen and humse aaya nagaya, both from Dekh kabira roya
    I did not include him among the great 5(SJ-OP-Naushad-SDB-CR) as the total NO. of such excellent songs is less. who should be mentioned after them? MM or anil biswas or Hemant kumar? I could not decide and confined to 5 only.
    BTW, Do you have a hit song from Chandan by kishore? I even forgot the words also, though I remember there was a hit.

    Comment by curao — April 30, 2007 @ 7:13 pm | Reply

  295. Gajananji,
    I fully agree with you on Kishore-OP combination. Baapre baap(Whcih really launched kishore in “audels”. dont forget Raagini in which Kishore was made by Op into such a versatile singer. Bhagam Bhag was another feather in OP-kishore. And Akalmand with such a sweet duet in “khoob surat saathi”.

    Comment by curao — April 30, 2007 @ 7:24 pm | Reply

  296. Krishna baruji,
    You are right. My general policy is not to offend any one and commend comments if I agree with. since i have now no prejudice against any one, i generally agree with the praise showered on Many MDs and songs.
    The second is i try to avoid disputing, even if i disagree with the opinions expressed. 2 reasons. We can not really prove anything and convince others. And tastes differ and opinions of merit etc. are really qualitative.

    Comment by curao — April 30, 2007 @ 7:37 pm | Reply

  297. I have my doubts about Rafi’s song in Shararat. In Mumbai, for this song Ajab Dastaan meri Zindagi, the verse which Rafi begins after the initial lines is called by many music lovers as ” Rafi kya awaaz kichta hai” The second verse is memorable singing by Rafi. May the start could have been a western tune. But later I do not think the Indianness which Rafi exhibits in that song could be western tune. I still have my doubts. Then there is another memorable song by Rafi in Rustom Sohrab. Mohhabbat Zinda Rahti hai, Mohabbat Maar nahi Sakhthi… Then Chali Chali aaa , the way Rafi sings this , only Rafi can sing like this. The Jasbad of Rafi is outstanding and mind you this was for Premnath and not some great hero. That is the way Rafi saab was. The movie ” Dosti” Rafi carried it on his shoulders. Dosti songs are popular in many countries. Rahi Manva Dukh ki Chinta kyo Saata ti hai.. Teri Dosti mera Pyaar.

    Comment by gajanan — May 1, 2007 @ 4:32 am | Reply

  298. gajanan,

    sharaarat song is very much indian….there is nothing western in it: any tom dick and harry can say that. whenever rafi raises his voice to a higher octave the song blossoms,the song you mentioned ‘mohabbat zinda rehati hai mohabbat mer nahin sakti from chengenz khan(not rustom-sohraab) is a perfect example of it. dil ka na karna aitbaar koi (halaaku) ….in this song also rafi raises his voice at the end of each stanza and the result is mind-boggling. hear the alaap of ramayya vastavayya at the end of the song and it enhances the beauty of the song ten-fold. s-j knew how to use rafi…the feel he gives to the song is just amazing….his singing can even thrill a corpse.

    Comment by arun bajaj — May 1, 2007 @ 11:51 am | Reply

  299. OP Nayyar was the absolute best in exploiting Rafi’s talent. The song “Aap Kay Haseen Rukh par” from “Bahereian phir bhi Aaenge” and “Humko Tumhare Ishq Ne” from Ek Musafir Ek Hasina are a couple examples of how Rafi goes from high to low in each “untra” and gives a marvellous rendering in the songs. People like Rafi and OP Nayyar are born once in a generation.

    Asif

    Comment by Asif — May 1, 2007 @ 10:58 pm | Reply

  300. GIN KI KYA TAREEF KAROON HE IS NOW HISTORY AND WILL REMAIN ALIVE IN THE HEARTS OF MUSIC LOVER AND ABOVE ALL HE WAS ATAEE
    9

    9

    Comment by NAWABSHAUKAT — May 1, 2007 @ 11:44 pm | Reply

  301. Rafi in lower octave.

    1. Dil ka Bawar kare Pukar in Tere Ghar ke Samne.
    2. Din Dhal Jayee in Guide
    3. Suhani Raat Dhal Chuki – Dulari
    4. Mai Zindagi ka Saath Nibhata Chala Gaya- Hum Dono.
    5. Kahin Bekayyal— Teen Deviyan
    6. Tere Mere Sapne – Guide
    7. Kabhi Khud pe Kabhi haalath pe in Hum dono
    and many more. There may be some by OPN also on the lower octave.

    Some of the lower octave ones of Rafi are haunting and if the lyrics are good. You need not ask for anything else. Just listen and forget your worries. The Hum Dono songs are perfect examples of this.

    Comment by gajanan — May 2, 2007 @ 4:54 am | Reply

  302. Hi Vinod..your comments are interesting. There is so much that goes on behind the scenes that a fair assessment is sometimes almost impossible..and unexpectedly unexpected as your observations lucidly exemplify.

    Hi gajanan,

    “Kahin bekhayal hokar’…is it lower octave? I felt it was a rather difficult note to sustain.. though that is no big deal for a genius like rafi but especially since this is such a romantic and soft number..maybe that is why it gives the feel of a lower octave..

    In fact the video I have posted above in the vodpod..’Jaag dil-e-deewaana ruth jaagi vasle yaar ki’.. is also an example of lower octave.. I simply adore that song… it seems to fill your semses with the aroma of the hill station it is shot at.. the sense of an early evening.. misty rendezvous… what talent… composition and rendering.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 2, 2007 @ 12:50 pm | Reply

  303. Hi Kaveeta Ji,

    I just heard the song you had mentioned. The tune is very catchy. As I was listening, I could detect some similarity with SD and SJ’s creations of yesteryears. Further search in Google shows that the MD for the movie Oonche Log was RD. Is this correct?

    OP must have truly believed in Rafi as he chose to stay away from Mukesh, Manna Dey, and other male singers for an extended period of time. OP and Rafi combined to give us melodies that last a life time.. Tukde Hain Mere Dil Ke and Pukarta Chala Hoon Main from Mere Sanam; all Rafi solos from Ek Musafir Ek Hasina, Kashmir Ki Kali, and Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon.

    Undoubetdly, Rafi was the best male singer and all MDs were aware of his flexbility in singing diferent notes. Rafi’s songs from Kala Bazzar and Guide
    are gems. Credit here goes to Burman dada.

    All MDs have produced melodies with Rafi but for me, OP is special and Number 1.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 2, 2007 @ 4:41 pm | Reply

  304. kahii.n bekhayaal hokar, yuu.N hii chhuu liyaa kisii ne – 2
    ka_ii khvaab dekh Daale, yahaa.n merI bekhudii ne kahii.n bekhayaal hokar

    mere dil mai.n kaun hai tU, ki huA jahaa.n andheraa
    vahii.n sau diye jalaaye, tere rukh kii chA.NdanI ne
    ka_ii khvaab, ka_ii khvaab dekh Daale yahaa.n merI bekhudii ne
    kahii.n bekhayaal hokar

    kabhI us parii kA hai kuchh, kabhI is hasii.n kii mahafil
    mujhe darabadar phiraayaa, mere dil kii saadagii ne
    ka_ii khvaab, ka_ii khvaab dekh Daale yahaa.n merI bekhudii ne
    kahii.n bekhayaal hokar

    hai bhalaa saa naam usakaa, mai.n abhii se kyA bataauu.n
    kiyaa bekaraar ha.Nsakar, mujhe ek aadamii ne
    ka_ii khvaab, ka_ii khvaab dekh Daale yahaa.n merI bekhudii ne
    kahii.n bekhayaal hokar

    are mujhape naaz vaalo.n, ye nayaazamandiyaa.n kyo.n
    hai yahii karam tumhaaraa, to mujhe nA doge jiine
    ka_ii khvaab, ka_ii khvaab dekh Daale yahaa.n merI bekhudii ne
    kahii.n bekhayaal hokar
    %

    One great aspect of this lyrics written by Majrooh is that , one has to be a romantic like Dev Saab ( Dev Anand had something in his romance, very polished) and Rafi came up with
    a voice , which suited the lyrics. He was haunting in this song. Another song where he sings for Dev Anand is in Jewel Thief ” Dil Pukare.. Aa re Aa re.

    rafii: dil pukaare, aare aare aare – 2
    abhii naa jaa mere sAthI
    dil pukaare, aare aare aare
    lataa: o… abhii nA jaa mere sAthI
    dono: dil pukaare aare aare aare

    rafii: baraso.n biite dil pe kaabuu paate
    ham to haare tum hii kuchh samajhaate
    lataa: samajhaatii mai.n tumako laakho.n aramaa.n
    kho jaate hai.n lab tak aate aate
    rafii: o… puuchho nA kitanii, baate.n pa.Dii hai.n
    dil me.n hamaare
    dil pukaare, aare aare aare
    lataa: o… abhii nA jaa mere sAthI
    dono: dil pukaare aare aare aare

    lataa: paake tumako hai kaisii matavaalii
    aa.Nkhe.n merI bin kaajal ke kaalii
    rafii: jIvan apanA mai.n bhI ra.ngiin kar luu.N
    mil jaaye jo in hoTho.n kii laalii
    lataa: o… jo bhI hai apanA, laayii huu.N sab kuchh
    paas tumhaare
    dil pukaare, aare aare aare
    rafii: o… abhii nA jaa mere sAthI
    dono: dil pukaare aare aare aare

    rafii: mahakaa mahakaa A.Nchal halke halke
    rah jAtI ho kyo.n palko.n se malake
    lataa: jaise suuraj ban kar aaye ho tum
    chal doge phir din ke Dhalate Dhalate
    rafii: o… aaj kaho to mo.D duu.n ba.Dhake
    vaqt ke dhaare
    dil pukaare, aare aare aare
    lataa: o… abhii nA jaa mere sAthI
    dono: dil pukaare aare aare aare
    abhii nA jaa mere sAthI
    dil pukaare aare aare aare…
    %

    In this song Rafi comes out in flying colors. esp the line where he sings ” O… Puche no kitni. The way he does ” O…… . Great singing.

    So for Kahin Bekhyaal you could say graceful mellow voice of Rafi. When you hear this song , kitna bhi budape ( old age) me ho , you will have a great feeling of the days of your youth.

    Comment by gajanan — May 3, 2007 @ 5:23 am | Reply

  305. Dev Anand had something in his romance. Whatever people may say of Dev Anand , he is still healthy , fit and still romantic at the age of 82. So , sing again my friends
    ” Kahin Bekhaayak hu me
    meri umar kitne bhi ho,
    aab bhi mai mohabbat ke gane gaa sakhata hu kyo ki Kahin Bekhyaal hu me”.

    Comment by gajanan — May 3, 2007 @ 9:21 am | Reply

  306. ” Kahin Bekhaayal hu me
    meri umar kitne bhi ho,
    Read K as l please. The whole antara will change if it is ‘k’ . Apologies to all and great lyric lovers.

    Comment by gajanan — May 3, 2007 @ 12:35 pm | Reply

  307. As far as I can remember, chitragupta was MD of Oonche log, unless there is another version with same title. I have just one song from that”Jaag dil E deewana” by Rafi.

    Comment by curao — May 3, 2007 @ 7:07 pm | Reply

  308. Krishan baruji,
    You are very nice to offer to share the songs of Shararat. I have been searching for one song in that by Lata “Dekho babu cher ka maja”. If you have that, pl send me. My email addr: cumrao@yahoo.com.
    Thank you

    Comment by curao — May 3, 2007 @ 7:12 pm | Reply

  309. http://www.musicworldofindia.com/
    This is good web site. Many good songs are there. I was very happy to hear Rafi’s good songs and some Kishore K ‘s classics like ” Khawab ho thum ya Koyi Haqeqat … in Teen Deviyan. Note the opening lines of this song.

    Click on the MD or singers you want and click on the box in the above web page. Keep your speakers ready and tour ear phones plugged in your ears. Enjoy and shamil ho jao mehfil me.
    Good luck

    Comment by gajanan — May 4, 2007 @ 4:47 am | Reply

  310. Gajanan ji,

    Thanks a million for sharing the link. It’s a great gift to all music lovers.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 4, 2007 @ 7:40 am | Reply

  311. Curaoji,

    You are correct the MD of the movie Oonche Log was Chitragupta, another talented music director who was not rewarded equitably and recognized. It appears in 1985 another movie with the same title (RD as MD) was released per information in Google.

    Kaveeta Ji might be able to throw more light on this issue.

    Let me verify that I have the Shararat song you are asking for. I will send you an e-mail. My e-mail is krbaru@hotmail.com

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 4, 2007 @ 7:49 am | Reply

  312. G N Murtyji,

    You have been very quiet for a while. We are waiting to hear from you.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 4, 2007 @ 7:51 am | Reply

  313. Nigahe Milana ko ji Chahata Hai …. I am just listening to this song from Dil Hi to Hai sung by Asha , written by Sahir and great music by Roshan. Saathyo yeh gana sune from the wbe page in my earlier posting 309.

    Comment by gajanan — May 4, 2007 @ 8:25 am | Reply

  314. Na To Karavan Ki Talash Hai…. Rafi in the end is simply superb…. In the post 309 web site Asha songs section this song is there. Arunji.

    Comment by gajanan — May 4, 2007 @ 8:46 am | Reply

  315. Thank you very much Krishnaji. Actually I am daily visiting this site atleast 4 to 5 times only to read the beautiful messages/letters posted by Gajananji, Arunji, Curaoji, Hemantji and yourself. I am getting good knowledge on music, lyrics from these posts. I sincerely thank each one of you for writing such wonderful things.

    People like me who belongs to RDB/LP/ARR generation but always likes the music of OPN/SJ/SDB/MM or Naushad gets lots of inputs or knowlede on real film music of Golden Era.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — May 4, 2007 @ 3:36 pm | Reply

  316. Gajanan,
    Roshan has composed very good qawaalis in films as you have mentioned. All the qawaalis of barsaat ki raat are good. nigaahen milaane ko jee cahata hai…..another good one from the composer and one that is out of public memory is chaandi ka badan sone ki nazar from tajmahal, again written by sahir. The ‘asli’ Roshan is long forgotten by the Indians…..our film industry only thrives on mediocrity.

    someone has mentioned another good song….. jaag dile-deewaana rut jaagi from oonche log….the song is as fresh as morning breeze. The composer Chitragupta was never really fated to reach the top……not even afer AVM’s Bhabhi which has such an array of good tunes. Both the composers were polite like their tunes. Therefore, they were easily sidelined.

    Comment by arun bajaj — May 5, 2007 @ 12:37 pm | Reply

  317. Curaoji and all of other filmi music dosts,

    I have the song of Shararat that you are looking for. I sent you an e-mail. Let us figure out how to get all Shararat songs to you and any one else who wishes to have them.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 5, 2007 @ 11:57 pm | Reply

  318. Arunji,
    While on Chitragupta, His only other hit film was Kali topi lal rumal after Bhabhi. There is one memorable Rafi song in Hatimtai “Parwar jigare aalam”.
    There was another great film for songs, Alibaba chalis chor. But, the MDs were Chitragupta and someone else, whom I forgot. Can any one recall the 2nd one?
    I just have one great song from that “ai saba unse keha jaraa” by Talat-Lata.
    And then there were a few “Jumbo” films made by Wadia. Jumbo comes to town and such other titles. There were many good songs in them. Chitra was heroine in them. We used joke about them as Chitra-Chitragupta.Unfortunately, I could not procure any of them.
    The reason Chitragupta made a greater impact in Andhra was that almost all these films were either dubbed or remade in Telugu.

    Comment by curao — May 6, 2007 @ 10:10 am | Reply

  319. Dear Mr. Curao,

    Chiragupta was assistant to music-director S. N. Tripathy in Ali Baba Challis Chor. After that he started composing independently. He really made many great songs but lady luck was not on his side and he was marginalised in favour of big names. See a short list to judge for yourself….(apart from the songs and movies we discussed):

    1. Teri duniya se door chale hoke majboor………….Zabak
    2. Tadapaooge, tadapaalo, hum tadap tadap ke bhi……Barkha
    3. Tera jaadoo na chalega o sapere………………..Guest House
    4. Rang dil ki dhadkan bhi laayi to hogi………….Patang
    5. Ye duniya patang nit badle ye rang……………..Patang
    6. Jiska joota usee ka sar ………………………Guest house
    7. Mujhe apni sharan mein le lo raam………………Tulsidaas
    8. Jaao rasiya hato jaao rasiya…………………..Kal Hamaara Hai
    9. Muft hue badnaam kisi se hai dil ko lagake………Baraat
    10.Muskuraao ke ji nahin lagta……………………Kangan
    11.Deewaane hum deewaane tum……………………..Bezubaan

    ……..a heady cocktail from this genius.

    Comment by arun bajaj — May 6, 2007 @ 12:34 pm | Reply

  320. Does any body have songs from Akalmand? I’m desperately looking for it. I had a record many years ago but can’t find it.
    Following were some of the songs:
    – Khubsurat Saathi – Kishore/Asha
    – Sach Kahu Sach Kahu, I love you very much – Rafi/Asha
    – Do Akalmand hue fikramand – Rafi/Kishore
    – Balama Sajana – Asha and some female singer
    – Other – Rafi song – Ab hatt Nange
    Thanks.

    Comment by Hemant — May 7, 2007 @ 8:55 am | Reply

  321. 1 daga daga vai vai vai daga daga vai vai vai
    ho gayi tumse ulfat Kaali Topi Laal Rumal
    – Chitragupta

    2. male: Aulad film Mehmood and Aruna Irani sing this song written by Majrooh sung by Manna dey. This song is good to sing to an NRI.
    ( jodi hamari jamega kaise jani)-2
    hum to hai angreji tum ladki hindustani
    female:
    (tumko bhi mushkil mujhe bhi pareshani)-2
    baat mano saiyan ban jao hindustani
    male:
    jodi hamari

    male:
    (angreji mulak mein kitna romance hai
    baahar ka chokari kitna advance hai)-2
    female:
    (dekhe bina kabhi koi ite pyaar se
    mukhde pe laaj ka aancharva daar ke )
    khilti hai ghunghat mein jawaani
    male:
    (jodi hamari jamega kaise jani)-2
    female:
    baat mano saiyan ban jao hindustani
    male:
    jodi hamari

    male:
    (bahoon mein tham ke do ghanta roz mein
    tumko shikhlayega ulfat ka poz mein)-2
    female:
    daiya re nain ka kajra na choot jaye
    jhankoro na piya jhumka na toot jaye
    ro degi dekho tumhare dil ki rani
    tumko bhi mushkil mujhe bhi pareshani-2
    male:
    hum to hai angreji tum ladki hindustani
    jodi hamari

    male:
    lau mein kaat doon lambi lambi yeh lat lau
    tumko to hir se banana hai juliet -2
    female:
    yun na pagal bano dekho re balma
    chila ke shor mein kar dungi jalima
    zulfen ghata ki na dungi mein diwani
    male:
    jodi hamari jamega kaise jani-2
    hum to hai angreji tum ladki hindustani
    female:
    tumko bhi mushkil mujhe bhi pareshani
    baat mano saiyan ban jao hindustani
    male:
    jodi hamari
    There are many good ones by Chitragupta.

    Comment by gajanan — May 7, 2007 @ 8:56 am | Reply

  322. Arun Bajaj ji,Curao ji,Krishan Baru Ji,Gajananji,
    Daily postings on this website from all of you and our other our participents have just been so interesting. It is more fascinating because we grew up with all those wonderful songs of the 50s and early 60s. For me, songs from the period 1955 to 1962 are just so special….. I think this was a golden era of indian film music. Unfortunately most of the songs of this period are not available in a good condition. The thing that amazes me the most is the fact that even the second-line composers of this period have been able to produced such great music that can be compared with the best . Just try to think and recollect the wonderful songs by composers other than the more distinguished OP, SJ, Madan Mohan, Naushads, Salil, SD/RD,C Ramchandar, Hemant, Khayam, Kalyanji Anandji, Ravi and so on. Their contribution to the golden era of indian film music is no less than any one else and can be compared with the best….Try to remember men like…………..
    IQBAL QURESHI….. Love In Shimla, Banarsi Tug, Bindya, Umar Qaid, Nai Umar Ki Nai Fasal, Qawali Ki Raat and Cha,Cha,Cha.
    N DATTA…………Chandra Kanta,Ham Panchhi Ek Daal Ke,Saadhana, Black Cat, Dhool Ka Phool, Didi, Dharam Putar, ( to may knowlege ,N Datta gave music in no less than 55 movies, but his best music belongs to the
    1950s)
    DATTA RAM……….Parvarish,Zindagi Aur Khwab,Qaidi No.911,First Love,Santaan,Ab Dilli Door Nahin,Kaala Admi
    CHITRA-GUPTA…….Guest House, Barkha,Kali Topi Lal Roomal,Kal Hamara Hai,Kangan, Nya Sansar, Baraat, Chand Mere Aaja, Maa Baap, Nache Nagan Baje Been, Patang, Opera House, Zabak, Burma Road, Main Chup Rahoon Gee, Bhabi, Ganga ki Lehrain, Oanche Log,
    There are still other second line composers who gave us such wonderful songs like,
    S,MOHINDER…..Shirin Farhad
    KANU GhOSH……Pyar Ki Raahen
    SARDAR MALIK….Saranga, Aab-i Hayat
    USHA KHANA……Dil Deke Dekho, Hum Hindostani,Aao Pyar Karen,
    Of course ,there were others who were front liners and as great as any , but they didn’t have as many films due to other reasons, like…
    Vasent Desai, S N Tripati, Jaidev, Ghulam Haider, Ghulam Mohammad, Sajjad Hussain, Anil Biswas, Hasnlal Bagat Ram.
    What a great treasure of songs these wonderful people have given us. We are really blessed.
    Would also love to have some comments here from KaveetaJi,

    Comment by Ashraft — May 7, 2007 @ 10:52 am | Reply

  323. Hello friends

    While the last few comments were very informative but I truly feel that here we should be talking of substance related directly or at least indirectly of OP Nayyar, and not be doing comparative analyses of other composers. There are many other blogs to do that.

    So let me make an attempt to steer the flow back to where it should be.

    In #128 and elsewhere there were some comments about some of OPn’s last movies.

    MANGNI was not his last film, but one of last ones. It was released in 1992, a production of Saiprabha Creations, Mumbai. Believe it or not, it had Antakshari-fame Pallavi Joshi as heroine. The film has 9 songs – all gems, penned by Qamar Jalalabadi (who has written songs for OPN even back in the 50s).

    Now here is an interesting fact. Every song of MANGNI is a Hindi reproduction of the songs of NEERAJANAM (the Telegu film) produced a few years earlier. It is this film which has been produced by Lalithasri Combines, Hyderabad (not MANGNI). The producers of MANGNI were so fascinated by NEERAJANAM’s songs ( there was some sort of a link) that it was decided that MANGNI will have the Hindi version. In my opinion, NEERAJANAM’s songs reflect the true OPN. Imagine that every song is in Telegu and yet you can swear that every track bears the maestro’s signature, even if you do not understand one word of it.

    #93 Hemant. Here is something more on Dekho Are Dilbar. This is the only time a stupid fool like me received a compliment from the great man – something which later led to the thought of writing his biography on his unique style. In one of our many long telecons, I told him once many years ago, that I feel that some “surs” were made only for him as only he uses them and he laughed (I meant it and this was no flattery). As we spoke, I told him ” Nayyar Saheb, I may sound like a fool but since we share so many things, please allow me to tell you that “Chen se humko kabhee” is a gem but is not my favourite song from PRPVNJ. Its “Dekho Aray Dilbar”. He interrupted me and said” Bus. Ab mujhe pata chala ke aap waqayee meri rooh, mere sangeet ko sahee samajne walay hein”. He said that one simply cannot hear that song without tapping your feet and singing along with it. ” Chein se humho” was a rehash of Geeta’s “Ja Ja Ja Ja Bewafa”. Asha always wanted OP to do an immortal classic which would overwhelm Geeta’s goldie oldie. Sadly, it turned out to be the last song in her voice recorded by the great man. The paradox is that while a lot of behind-the-scene politics came into play to have that song removed from the film Pran Jaye……after Rekha had apprently done a super job at picturization….the song actually received a Filmfare Award.
    OP Nayyar was still there to collect it. Asha B was a no-show and they never came under a same roof again.

    You have just read a few lines from my book.

    Siraj Khan
    Boston MA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — May 7, 2007 @ 10:55 am | Reply

  324. Siraj,
    I concur with you on the song Dekho are Dilbar – it’s a master piece. The western instruments after the mukadha and the switchover to eastern instruments in the antara is just mind-blowing. And the antara is so capturing. It’s my favorite too from that movie.

    Another great OP song (did not become as popular but was just fantastic) was from the movie Taxi Driver (1973). The song Jinhen Ho Pyar Sanam by Asha. Listen to the harmonium, flute, and mandolin before the antara and the complete tune – again mind-blowing. The other song in that movie “Pyar Karte Ho Yaar” by Krishna Kalle was also very good. Btw I’m looking for these songs if anybody has it.

    Siraj, do you have the songs from Mangni that you’ve mentioned? I would like to hear them.

    Siraj based on your conversation with him can you please shed some light about the last 2 to 5 years of OP’s life apart from homeopathy – his attitude, interests, etc. And did he ever have his own top favorites?

    Comment by Hemant — May 7, 2007 @ 11:39 am | Reply

  325. Siraj Saheb, you are absolutely right, the telugu film “Neerajanam” music is excellent and the music can be rated among the top 5 compositions during the period 1980-90. Since I understand the telugu language I can very well say that OPji has given equal importance to LYRICS without knowing the telugu language and he has utilized the best lyricists of telugu film industry like Dr C Narayana Reddy (Gyanpith award winner), Late Acharya Atreya who is like a Sahir of south indian films and Late M S Rama Rao who was a pandit and highly knowledgeable person.

    Each song of “Neerajanam” is a gem and at the same time very well rendered by non other than Mr S P Balasubraminiam and S Janaki. But again the film is very bad with no story , no star cast nothing. Like many OPji’s films it also flopped at BOX office and I still remember in every theater the film could be shown for hardly 2 weeks and that to only on the strength of OPji’s music. The background and title score of the movie was also outstanding.

    After this OPji signed two more movies in telugu like ” Andala putallo Bhagyanagaram ” means History of Hyderabad and ” Premayatra” starring leading actress Sridevi during the period 1990-94. OPji recorded few songs but no body knows what happened to these two films and songs.

    There are some other films which OPji signed during 1983-89 period like 1. Mukaddar ki baat 2. Subhanallah and one more film I couldn’t recollect the name but Mr Rajesh Khanna and Mr Rajbabbar came for film mahoorat shot and OPji recorded songs for all these movies which were rendered by Anuradha Paudwal, Kavita Krishnamurty, Shabbir Kumar, Md.Aziz and Mahendra Kapoor (collected from “Screen” ) but again non of these films were released.

    Hemantji : I am having all the songs of “Akalmand” and will upload the songs very soon the way I did for “Jaane Meheboob” few days back.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — May 7, 2007 @ 12:10 pm | Reply

  326. Hello friends,

    As Siraj Saheb pointed out we have deviated from our primary mission of discussing OP’s life time accomplishments and how to keep the flame burning following his demise. It will be a good idea to have blogs dedicated to separately to each MD so that folks would have opportunity to share ideas and songs about that MD.

    After a long time, I am very happy to hear from Ashraft and Siraj. Lets us be friends though our likes and dislikes may vary and use this space to keep OP’s name alive. OP had to struggle against so many odds stacked against him, one of them being so many films were not released though he composed music and recorded songs and the other his marvellous music was combined with movies that had poor stories and second rate actresses and actors.

    OP’s Life Story is truly amazing that he made a name for himself though in his second leg he had virtually no support from the big guys. I am still regretting that I could not meet him in person.

    Thanks to Murtyji for uploading Akalmand songs. Will I be able to access them?

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 7, 2007 @ 4:31 pm | Reply

  327. Siraj Saheb.. Welcome back..How was the last leg of your trip post our meeting?

    Ashraft saheb.. where have you been ? missed you.

    Krishna Ji..I have been reading interestedly of the immense information and passion most of our regulars have towards Indian music and other M.D.’s. Even prior to this I was thinking of writing another blog to do with music and songs from the past that have shaped my life and which will include the legends. So this post can be dedicated to Nayyar saheb and his songs.. while the next can be one which encompasses some or as many as we all feel like wrting about. After all it is a matter of bonding together..the excuse and the raison d’etre is music..So keep it coming friends.. Life is a song to be sung with ones heart and from its depths..

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 7, 2007 @ 5:17 pm | Reply

  328. Kaveetji…. Thanks so much for remembering. I have been reading the posts on the site regularly but couldn’t post myself due to busy life and hectic schedule here in the USA.
    Krishna Baruji…. Thanks . We shall be sharing our views in rememberance of that great man who gave us a treasure of such sweet and delightful music.
    Siraj Sahib…..It is so much fascinating to read about your personal chats with the great man. I cannot really wait to read more about this and see your forthcoming book. I had the ph:no. of the great man and wanted to call him but being a procrastinator myself,I kept delaying it and he left us. I am going to repent it for the rest of my life,though.
    Music of MANGNI is ,of course ,so beautiful. In fact, he got Andhra Pradesh state government award for best music director of the year for Telugu version– Neerajanam. The only other award that he got was for Naya Daur as best music director of the year 1957. I personally believe he deserverd many more Filmfare Awards for his other great musical films too, such as…..
    CID…1956.
    Tumsa Nahin Dekha or Howrah Bridge(1958)
    Sone Ki Chidiya(1959)
    Kalpana(1960)
    Ek Musafir Ek Hasina(1962)
    Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon(1963)
    Kashmir Ki Kali(1964)
    Mere Sanam(1965)
    Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi(1966)
    We all know that OP Nayyar has been an upright man all his life. I am sure he never believed in politics and manipulation of media, which is why he lost so many Best Music awards despite a consistent record and a phenomenal array of chart buster songs and scores, specailly in the later part of 50s and first part of the 60s. His forte revolved around a sweet and simple melody with a modern touch given to a folk base with rythem.. He was unique and the only one.THE KING OF RYTHEM. There have been many composers before him and so many others would follow him BUT there would never be another O P Nayyar.His niche will remain his own for all times to come.
    I wish he had more of his songs written by Sahir Ludhiyanvi.
    MUJ SE PEHLE KITNE SHA-ER AYE AUR AAKAR CHALE GAEY
    WO BEE EK PAL KA QISA THEY , MEIN BEE EK PAL KA QISA HOON
    KAL TUM SE JUDA HOJAOON GA,GO AAJ TUMARA HISA HOON.
    PAL DO PAL MERRI HASTI HAY, PAL DO PAL MERI JAWANI HEY.

    Comment by Ashraft — May 8, 2007 @ 9:57 am | Reply

  329. From

    http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070201&fname=opnayyar&sid=2&pn=2

    OPN’s views . click on the web site above and below.

    On S.D. Burman: ” The way S.D. composed for Jinhein Naaz Hain Hind Par is pure genius.”

    On Geeta Dutt: ” Geeta Dutt had the most original voice in film music.”

    On the best singer of the lot: “Shamshad Begum had the best voice. It was what you could truly call khanakti aawaz. She was right in believing I downplayed her in order to promote Asha.”

    http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fname=opnayyar&fodname=20070201&sid=1

    The story that OP’s earlier favourites, Shamshad Begum and Geeta Dutt, were ignored by him when Asha started singing for him, always upset me. I am a huge fan of Geeta Dutt and I asked OP why he had dropped Geeta when she desperately needed money. She had even called him up and asked him why he was not using her voice any longer. OP replied, “Asha had made it clear that she would be “everything” in my life and I was so besotted by her that I just dropped everyone else. I do know that Geeta needed work badly but I was in the grip of this relationship and I didn’t respond to her.”

    So much sacrifices OPN did for…. and one does not understand , what namak this songstress ate. Dubai , ek restaurant , London me ek restaurant… Arre …. saab Indian Khane me namak is bound to be there, so atleast when she sees namak ka dibba… kuch tho aasar hona chahiye.

    Wah re Kalyug, Kya Samay aagya. Not even worth the salt.

    Comment by gajanan — May 8, 2007 @ 10:19 am | Reply

  330. Gajananji,
    you will find a kindred spirit in me as a great fan of Geetha and shamshad. (pl. see some of my earlier posts here)The only times I wept on the death of cine artists was when Geetha , guru and OP died. i used to refer to her my Golden Geetha. I too wrote to OP in those days, why he was not aking Geetha any more. of course, he gave a different reply then, saying that asha’s voice suits better for his songs.
    What a courageous man OP was? When Naushad, and CR already stopped taking Shamshad, he gave many wonderful songs to her brough her again into limelight. Pl. recall that in one of his best films, C.I.D., he gave max weightage to her, more than Asha, Geetha.

    Comment by curao — May 8, 2007 @ 7:58 pm | Reply

  331. Ashraftji,
    For decades, i have not been able to decide on which is best film of OP. You gave a list of contenders and worthy films. wont you like to add Aar paar, hum sub chor hain, Yeh raat phir….

    Comment by curao — May 8, 2007 @ 8:02 pm | Reply

  332. Every person has a weeakness or two. Asha appears to have exploited OP’s weakness or sympathy and emotionally tied him up. Defintely, she was the cuprit behind OP’s inability to use Geeta Dutt. Geeta did have marital problems which discouraged SD from relying on her.

    How about taking out advertisements in Indian newspapers aimed at Asha? We have to use indirect language with a tinge of a religious touch (quote or a passage from a holy book).

    Either we have to step up a PR war on Asha or just ignore her. Any ideas?

    Any action directed against the unfaithful or actions dedicated to OP’s memory have to emanate from Mumbai.

    My suggestion would be to ignore Asha and concentrate on creation of an online library of OP. It will be nice if we could create one stop place for all of his songs. I don’t know how practical it could be. In addition to links to his songs, this library can have material on his life and his varied interests besides music.

    Another suggestion would be to create a music scholarship in OP’s name.

    We have to involve OP’s family members and seek their views and participation because they knew him well and would be aware of his feelings on all issues that concerned him directly.

    I am willing to support financially any moves in OP’s memory.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 8, 2007 @ 8:43 pm | Reply

  333. One feels that there is no need to stoop so low as to make a halla-gulla of this “Gratitude aspect”. Yeh , public hai , yeh saab jaanti hai. yeh public hai.

    One thing which comes out is the way OPN has taken all this in his stride and switched over to being a homeopath, which explains the resilience in him and the principles he stood for.

    One personality which comes to mind is Guru Dutt, for whom OPN gave some memorable music. But Guru Dutt had melancolic persona , for which he passed away young. Kagaz Ke phool , Sahib Bibi aur Ghulam reflected his personality. I need not elaborate further. All may be knowing all the facts.

    OPN on the other hand was tough and he lived his life in full, even with set backs and mud being thrown at him. Why not a movie on him, with songs to match his personality. In case he has not given permission for this , forget it. It would be a very good movie, with his own appreciation of Burmanda’s song being rewritten towards the end as ” Jinhe Naaz hai OPN paar, woh kaha hai”

    Comment by gajanan — May 9, 2007 @ 4:53 am | Reply

  334. Curao ji…….. If you ask me , I cannot decide which of op’s film was the best; because I love every song that he has composed. The list of his films that i had given in my earlier post were those which swept the charts in those days and were on the lips of every person who listened to Indian film music and deserved Filmfare Awards. Yes, music of Aar Paar was great,specially “A Lo Mein Hari Pia” and so was “Hum Sab Chore Hein”. But again ,his other films like DO Ustaad, Mujrim, Kalpana, 12-O,Clock, Raagni,Mrs and Mrs 55,Musafir Khana,Phaagan,Sone Ki Chidya,Basant,Kalpana and Mit Mein Sona, were all master piece. If I have to make a choice to select his best film, there will be a tie between,,,
    Naya Daur , Tumsa Nahin Dekha, Howrah Bridge, CID and Kashir Ki Kali. What are your views??????????? And it is impossible for me to select one of these and leave others… Can you do that, Curao Ji???

    Comment by Ashraft — May 10, 2007 @ 9:15 am | Reply

  335. Ashraftji,
    Allow me first to express my happiness that I found an equally “OP-Crazy” person like me, in you
    In selecting the best film, i tried to follow some criteria like this:
    Give marks on a scale of ten to each song. and get the total marks for the film. This, didnt work because Tumsa nahin, C.I.D. ETc.have only 6 songs. Their max total can only be 60! Easily surpassed by films like aarpaar, Hums sub chor, ek Musafir…etc., which get at least 80 marks, as I consider the min. I can give for any song in those films is 8. Then, i tried the scale of 100. Even then, let us say, we give 100 marks to Yeh bombay and Leke pehla in C.I.D. Let us compare with Aar paar: Yeh lon mein, Babuji dhire , Hun abhi mai , Kabhi Aar kabhi paar, must be given at least 90 each. the others 80 each. The same problem arises. It ends up with >800. Then I gave up.
    From the point of sheer appeal, memorability, and freshness,Variety, new style or not……etc., taking all of them into consideration, I decided on the following as joint bests:
    Aarpaar, C.I.D., Tumsa nahin, humsub chor ,Ek musafir, Naya Daur, Mera saaya, Yeh raat phir. all equally best. LOL. I did not find so much difficulty with other MDs, except SJ again.

    Comment by curao — May 10, 2007 @ 7:44 pm | Reply

  336. Krishanaji,
    The best is to ignore the whole complex problem of Gratitude. What about the sad end of the great Guru dutt family?
    Did that lady ever acknowledge her indebtedness to Guru and N.T.Rama Rao who made her heroine first and introduced her to Guru. We all know how Guru Dutt was treated. Let us leave them to their own fate.
    OP was on record that Asha did actually pressurise him not to take Geetha. He said he was helpless, despite his inclinations.
    Poor poor Geetha died heart broken, may not be solely because she did not get singing assignments. They would have given at least some solace to her in her last years in this cruel world.
    About a web site for Op and a Library of songs and other material, I am all for it. Let us show to all How much special OP is.

    Comment by curao — May 10, 2007 @ 7:57 pm | Reply

  337. Curaoji, It is so nice to share the thoughts on OPN with you and all other. Before coming to this website I had never known there were so many others who loved OPN exactly the same way I did..
    Recollect his song from MITTI MEIN MAIN SONA…. Poocho Na Hamein Hum Unke Liye Kia Kia Nazrane Laey Hain and also “Hum Ko Chore Ke Kahan Jao Ge” from Shrimati420 and Such Bata Tu Hum Pe Fida” from Sone Ki Chidiya.
    Dear Friends
    As far my knowlege goes , O P Nayyar has never been an assistant to any music director at the start of his career. I am right???
    O P NAYYAR,s FAVOURIT 10 SONGS

    OPN picked his 10 best songs in Fimfare magazine edition of JANUARY 1-15,1987, Here is the list,
    1) Pyar Par Bas To Nahin……..Talat/Sone Ki Chidiya
    1)Aana Hai To Aa…………….RafiNaya Daur.
    3)Dil Ki Aawaz Be Sun………..Rafi/Hamsaya.
    4)Aap ke Haseen Rukh…………Rafi/Baharein Phir Be Aayegain.
    5)Garib Jan ke Hum Ko………..Rafi-Geeta/Choomantar.
    6)Aanchal Mein Saja Lo……….Rafi/Phir Wohi Dil Laya HOON.
    7)Diwana HUa Badal…………..Rafi-Asha/Kashmir Ki Kali.
    8)Chain se Hum Ko Kabhe………AshaPran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye.
    9)Raaton Ko Chori Chori………Asha/Mohabbat Zindagi Hai.
    10)Diya To Jila Sab Raat Balam..C.Atma/Dhaake Ki Malmal

    Comment by Ashraft — May 11, 2007 @ 11:46 am | Reply

  338. Curaoji,
    Refer your Post 335. I do not thing film Mara Saaya, was OPN,s film . It was Madan Mohan,s. Op’s film was Hamsaya.

    Comment by Ashraft — May 11, 2007 @ 11:51 am | Reply

  339. The comments/debates/discussions on O.P. Nayyar’s contributions for the enrichment of Hindi film music have been interesting, illuminating and educative, but let us not digress when we have so many other unexplored areas to discuss, such as the lyricists with whom OP combined, the comedy songs he composed for Johny Walker, Mehmood, etc, the heroes and heroines of his movies, and so on.

    In my humble opinion, which may not be endorsed by all OP fans, OP is the best Hindi film music director of all times, followed by Shanker Jaikishen and S.D. Burman. I would have placed SJ at the top, but I gave weight to the fact that they are two persons working together and they had the advantage of having Lata ji, Mukesh and several others to sing for them, thereby giving more variety for their songs and more pro-Lata producers approaching them. Same is the case with S.D. Burman.

    During the ‘Golden Era’ of Hindi film music, each and every music director contributed his/her mite for the enrichment of music. To cite an example, even a lesser known music director like Lakshi Ram composed a very good song, ‘thoo shauk kali, mai mast pawan….’ for the film “Mai Suhagan Hoom”.

    G.N. Murty garu,

    The name of the film, which you could not mention in paragraph four of your post at 325 is “Shakhsiyat”; it was launched in December, 1991.

    I find that there are a lot of OP fans in Andhra Pradesh, but sadly I do not have so many compatriots here in Kerala ! I heard that OP had composed music for a Malayalam movie also but the film could not be completed.

    Kaveeta ji,

    It would be a good idea to give wide newspaper publicity to your blog on OP Nayyar in order to elicit the views of several other OP fans.

    Regards,

    Keloth Macheendran

    Comment by Keloth Macheendran — May 11, 2007 @ 11:59 am | Reply

  340. Thank you very much Macheenranji for giving the film’s name.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — May 11, 2007 @ 3:13 pm | Reply

  341. It was most unfortunate that Asha Bhonsle exhibited too much of her ego (Cf. Filmfare awards incident, in which she wanted all the credits for her rise for herself, without giving the due to those who were instrumental for enabling her to ascend to her peak of filmi fame) and drove away OP Nayyar from her glorious film career, thus taking on to the path of descent with other music composers. Nayyar took the senseless rebuff easy but chose to resign himself to homeopathy. He was truly a man of great musical sensibility with a simple human heart and the unique knack of doing pride to himself and Asha with his highly creative and stirring music, most of them based on Punjabi folk and the quintessence of modified classical music in a manner palatable to both the cogniscenti and the lay listening public. Many of his creations for films such as Phir Wohi, Kashmir ki Kaliyan, Ek Musifir Ek Haseena, Pran na Jane Par Bhi Vachan Na Jaye the last failure of a film with at least one immortal song,to cite a few, were unequalled in creative imagination. Of course he declined with the perversion of quality of film music in India, which was no reflection on OPN. May his great soul rest in peace!

    Comment by M Balakrishnan — May 11, 2007 @ 4:23 pm | Reply

  342. Ashraftji,
    Ofcourse, I neither meant Mera ssaya nor Hum saaya. I had mere sanam in mind, when my fingers indvertantly typed mera saaya.

    Comment by curao — May 11, 2007 @ 6:34 pm | Reply

  343. Murtyji,
    Any chance of loading those Akalmand songs soon.
    Thanks.

    Comment by Hemant — May 11, 2007 @ 9:45 pm | Reply

  344. Murtyji,

    Please load the songs of Akalmand at your convenience. I can wait.

    I would like to share songs that I have on a video tape. Any ideas on how I can do this?

    Appreciate assistance from any one. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 11, 2007 @ 10:30 pm | Reply

  345. Dear Hemantji, Krishnaji

    I will upload the songs as soon as possible, may be within 7~10 days.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — May 12, 2007 @ 9:10 am | Reply

  346. Friends,

    Perhaps this is as good a time as any to talk about how amazed i always am when i hear music-directors hold forth on their BEST 10 OR 20. Invariably, the selection comprises of the songs, less traveled, with intricate musical structures and preferably based on some Indian classical “raag”. This, I suspect, music-directors do on purpose, to impart respectability to their selections. The mistake lies in a belief which is somewhat widespread that simple, catchy and popular tunes should not be reckoned as the best work of any artist.

    OPN, overnight, got perceived as the musical wizard not because of laboured tunes like “Chain se humko kabhie” but due to “O leke pehla pehla pyaar”, “Ek pardesi mera dil le gaya”, “Kabhie aar kabhie paar”, “Sar per topi
    laal gaal pe”, “Ude jab jab zulfein teri” and similarly formatted numbers which had folksy flavour, catchy rhythm and foot-tapping beats. These are the kind of songs with which a man-in-the-street can relate to. These are immensely hummable songs: you could whistle them while having a shower or when you are dressing up or doing household chores and these tunes are so infectious that others also take the cue and begin lip-syncing.

    Film music is meant for masses. It is not the glory of musical concerts where maestros sit for hours to show the range of their vocal chords. This was very well understood and realized by no less a person than Raj Kapoor who orchestrated all his music directors in such a manner that they shed their sophistry amd musical pedantry and came down to earth, to vibe with the lowest common denominator. And thus were born songs like “Barsaat mein tak dhina dhin”, “Awaara hoon”, “Mera joota hai japani”, “Ghar aaya mera pardesi”, “Pyaar hua iqrqqr hua….”. These simple songs can be easily reproduced on harmonium and banjo to the maddening beat of a dholak; thus charging the entire atmosphere in a few seconds.

    On the contrary the songs deliberately selected by MD’s are those laboured tunes which have whimpered their way out with their tails between their two legs, in the first week of release itself. No amount of spit and polish is going to put shine on them because while being good musical creations, they lack the connection with the common man. And the common man is not a musical pundit….he is a farmer, an urchin, a rickshaw driver, a student, a mill worker, a shopkeeper but these are the ones who give sustenance to a film song and who have the power and capacity to turn an ordinary OP Nayyar and Shankar-Jaikishan into what they have become today.

    Comment by arun bajaj — May 12, 2007 @ 12:03 pm | Reply

  347. I am in consonance with the thought that some songs are made for the benfit of the masses and appeal to all Universally.. Though there is no apparent harm done there.. art has after all to reach a wide audience.

    that is the bane of creativity.. all creativity. Sometimes mediocrity becomes the key to success while genius dies unsung. So the trick lies in corrupting your art to help assimilation..gold mein bhi millavat karni padhti hai. The puritans would die a thousand deaths before they did this .. and this is what happens they sometimes just die out.. sad but true.

    I wonder sometimes what is true art? That which gets acknowledged by an uninformed mass? Or that which is truly savoured by a knowledgable few.

    But I do not agree with your last statement. O.P. and S.J. were by no stretch of imagination ‘ordinary’..neither were they below par by any standards.. Thats unfair.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 12, 2007 @ 1:06 pm | Reply

  348. Keloth Macheedran ji,

    This blog is being widely viewed on the blogosphere as is apparent from the number of hits. As far as print media goes, soon somebody or the other will find it and talk of it. I am hesitant about broadcasting my blog upfront. Its not my nature.. NDTV had contacted me earlier and had taken an interview..I am shy of approaching the media.

    What statistics tell me is that people read much more than they comment..and that is fine. As long as the message of our love for O.P. nayyar and other music Directors comes across plainly, we are on solid ground.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 12, 2007 @ 1:36 pm | Reply

  349. After reading Kaveetaa ji’s and Arun Bjajs comments about how M.D’s may compromise for the sake of popularising their art or making it more acceptable i was wondering if anyone knows or has read which were O.P. nayyars favorite compositions.. his own as well as others.

    Comment by Krishnan — May 13, 2007 @ 12:03 am | Reply

  350. If friends do not mind and brush this away as irrelevant or mere figment of imagination, i would like to relate one actual incident that happened to me.
    I an my son with families were dining in “Venetian”, A Hotel-Casino in Las vegas, under an unbelievable artificial sky, in artificial twilight. An orchestra was playing and a few dancers in traditional Italian dresses were dancing to the instrumental tune. Suddenly , my son asked me ” Daddy , hear the tune being played- Is it not one of your favourite Hindi songs?” I too immediately realized it is so. After the piece was played out, i went to the Orchestrator and asked him how he got an Indian tune. He was equally surprised and told me that, it was not Indian, but an old Italian folk music of 40s in the venice region.
    The song was “Pyar hua Yeh karar hua….(Shree 420)-(Full mukhda)”that immortal song, So Indian(to me). The antaras of the Hindi song were not there of course.
    Firstly, I dont want to detract any thing from the greatness of the song, one of the finest duets in Hindi, or SJ’s creative power. It only shows the universality of music and that it has no language and regional barriers.

    Comment by curao — May 13, 2007 @ 10:47 am | Reply

  351. Arunji,
    How wonderfully you write English! you really mastereed the art of writing English. You must try to write big articles on topics of your liking. It is not that every one can write like that. Though I have the vocabulary, i really cant imagine writing the way you wrote the post in
    “laboured tunes which have whimpered their way out with their tails between their two legs, in the first week of release itself. No amount of spit and polish is going to put shine on them” LOL wonderful.
    Murtyji,
    shall I save you some trouble and send the Akalmand songs to Krishnaji and Hemantji? hoping that you will have no objection, i am sendint them

    Comment by curao — May 13, 2007 @ 10:57 am | Reply

  352. Krishnanji, For OPN’s own 10 favourits, as per Filmfare (Jan 1-15,1987 ), please go to my post # 337.

    Comment by Ashraft — May 13, 2007 @ 7:24 pm | Reply

  353. What happened to OPN ‘s hat and his fabled dress? Must be with his adopted family. Why not paint OPN with the his fabled dress and hat and auction the paintings to some rich fellows and use the money for some memorial or the proposed web page to OPN.

    Comment by gajanan — May 14, 2007 @ 4:06 am | Reply

  354. Ashraft ji, the songs picked by O.P. are tremendous…’AAnchal me saja lena kaliyaan’ is utterly romantic. ‘Raaton ko chori chori’ is such an unmistakably classical composition, replete with murkiyan and harkatein. Impossible to believe that it came form one who has never formally been trained in ragas. The other songs have been mentioned on this post from time to time including my post.So his choice is close to ours as well..Some melodies I have not been able to recognise…

    Gajanan ji,

    Siraj had mentioned that the ‘hat’ is with the adopted family. Further up in the comments section I had invited Ashwini Karandikar to share her life and some snaps with us at Sachiniti since this is an ongoing space where his admirers cannot seem to get enough of eulogising this great personality. But there was no response.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 14, 2007 @ 9:23 am | Reply

  355. Thank you Curaoji for sending “Akalmand” songs to Krishnaji and Hemantji.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — May 14, 2007 @ 10:37 am | Reply

  356. Atleast paint OP ‘s picture with the hat on and acution it off to Salman Khan and there are some good admirers in the film industry. The money which you get from this, you can build a super -duper web page…. Yes…. I am waiting to hear… Saar Paar topi Lal aur …..in full blast from the to be created web page only.

    Comment by gajanan — May 15, 2007 @ 6:46 am | Reply

  357. Thank you asraft ji. I would also like to know who are the M.D.s of op jis times and before him by which he was inspired..did he ever speak of his favourite compositions by other composers?

    Comment by Krishnan — May 16, 2007 @ 12:06 pm | Reply

  358. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I read a comment made by Asha Bhosle about the early success in her career where she simply ignored OPN’s credit in shaping her voice and tried to downgrade his contribution in giving a major break in her music career. I’m copying an excerpt from that article to show you what she really said…[[They (OPN and Asha)split on August 5, 1972. It is not clear what made them part their ways. On being asked the reason for their parting, O P Nayyar once said, “I know astrology very well. I knew that one day I had to part with her. Something also happened, that upset me, so I left her.” Nevertheless, he also said “…now that I am seventy-six, I can say that the most important person in my life was Asha Bhosle. She was the best person I ever met.”

    The parting of Asha Bhosle and O.P. Nayyar was bitter, and probably therefore she has hesitated to give Nayyar his due. While talking about O.P. Nayyar in an interview with The Times of India, she once remarked – “Whichever composer gave me work, it was because my voice was suited to his music at that point. No one musician did me any favor by asking me to sing for him.” She gives the credit for her first big break to B. R. Chopra, the producer of Naya Daur.]]

    Believe me, while reading this part of the article I felt so ashamed of myself to accept that I’m here breathing in such a world where a hypocrite and ungrateful person like Asha Bhosle is still living and, more painfully saying, singing. I still can’t believe how could she say what she said!!!! She was so mean minded that she didn’t even mention OPN’s name and dared to offend OPN indirectly. I however felt very proud as an OPN fan when OPN, on the other hand, showed a great respect to this singer and hailed her as the best person he ever met. What a graciousness!!

    If anybody else hasn’t mentioned yet, I’m giving here a link to another great article on OPN by another avid OPN lover Dr. Narasinha Kamath. It’s a great tribute to the maestro. I really didn’t know OPN was so smartly shrewd as he said himself :” I used to make a tune in five minutes; it never took me more than that. But I would always tell the filmmaker to come back after 15 or 20 days so that it wouldn’t look that simple”.
    Link- http://dr-narasinha-kamath.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/02/latest-on-opnayyar.htm

    Comment by Abed — May 16, 2007 @ 3:30 pm | Reply

  359. First of all I must congratulate Kaveetaa kaul for this post and the rest of the commenters who have displayed so much love, affection caring and concern for O.P. Nayyar. So many lovers of his music in such a versatile gathering that it touches your heart.

    I am confessing to writing under an alias. Its not my true identity. I must share with you all what i feel about Asha Bhonsle and what I know about her. Since you all have at some point or the other expressed so much regret on the fact that she has not bothered to give one statement of grief at the news of his death. Let me tell you that there is no greater ‘user’ and ‘manipulator’ in the industry than these two sisters. I do not wish to sound malicious. But had there not been any talk of Asha here I would have not bothered to spoil the lovely atmosphere here.

    Asha has lived by using and abusing people. Her talent is there its for the world to see, but her temperament leaves much to be desired. There is even doubt as to the relationships with various others besides OP and RD, even to this day. let me not prolong it further. Just found it difficult to control myself on reading the comments here and felt I had to say something since I knew her on close quarters. Sometimes it is a curse to see closely what people are. Its better to live in a fools paradise with stories of glamour satisfying you. But when you go behind the scenes and see the truth of their life you feel like discarding even their memory.

    Talent and real person often are two different things. this can hold true of most celebrities… even today.. stars music directors, singers, they are a filthy lot..believe me. Asha believes in living for today..raat gayee baat gayee. Success means everything to her . She must be the center of attraction of people she is involved with.. age is no bar..anybody will do.. what more can i say? Samajh jaao.

    Comment by Anjaana — May 16, 2007 @ 4:00 pm | Reply

  360. Hi friends I have added ‘Bahut shukriya badi meherbani’ on my vodpod.. please view on the side bar top right of page.. Sadly, despite trying continuously I am not able to find O P.jis songs on you tube and google etc.. But all the same, please listen to the melody and bask in its romanticism.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 16, 2007 @ 5:26 pm | Reply

  361. Hi Friends,

    I noticed that YouTube has trimmed its video collection of OP from 40+ to a mere 12.

    YouTube had 5 songs of Ek Musafir Ek Hasina. I am wondering what has caused YouTube to downsize the video collection on OP. I am truly disheartened at this reduced availability.

    Kaveetaaji, please accept our sincere thanks for the effort and time you are putting in running and updating this site.

    I hope OP’s family members (both biological and adopted) participate and share with us their insights on OP. We are not seeking any material possessions left behind by OP such as, his hat or silk shirts. We are only requesting them to share things and experiences that would add richness to our discussion on OP and his life.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 16, 2007 @ 7:33 pm | Reply

  362. Thank you so much Krishna ji. Interacting with all of you reading your comments keeps my enthusiasm on its nadir as well.

    Yes I have noticed that the songs, even the ones which I had previously uploaded have been removed by the source. It is not you tube which is responsible for this Krishna ji.

    And yes, like I mentioned earlier, all we would have liked from the adopted family or others are a wealth of memories which if they so desired they could have shared with us. Maybe snaps, anecdotes,a slice of life. But if they have chosen to desist then we have to accept their decision. In fact there is no other site, with such a vast collection of OPjis fans, on the net.Joy when shared is doubled and grief halved. But I guess we will make do on our own.. we have done Ok this far. This space is almost like a one stop encyclopaedia on Nayyar sahebs career and filmography.

    I am endeavouring to upload a collection of songs as well. Click on this post and you will be greeted with a devastating composition which will enthrall you. Coming right up..soon 🙂

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 16, 2007 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

  363. Hi Anjaanaji,

    You analysis of Asha’s psyche is very interesting. It appears Asha B had a very rough and troubled personal life though she was legally married twice. I don’t think she is at peace with herself. Let her run around the world in search of Happiness.

    The latest desire of Asha is to sing with Sachin T. I hope Sachin is wise enough and does not get involved with this old and fat lady. Less we talk about the M sisters, it will better for all of us.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 16, 2007 @ 8:12 pm | Reply

  364. As I had written earlier , only a Shakesperaean style cinema will be fit for the female Brutusini. Somebody with good imagination should write a good script on OPN and khol deena chahiye , yeh banawat ki duniya wale kho.

    Comment by gajanan — May 17, 2007 @ 8:10 am | Reply

  365. Did Op mention anything about Madan Mohan, Lp, Sj, Naushad? They are also some who were his contemporaries.also SD burman.. What did he think o f them? I think Op would have been an admirer of Madan Mohan…the man was a genius too.

    Comment by Krishnan — May 18, 2007 @ 12:06 pm | Reply

  366. Krishnan , here is the reference for you.

    http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070201&fname=opnayyar&sid=2&pn=2

    OPN’s views . click on the web site above and below are some excerpts from the above web site

    On S.D. Burman: ” The way S.D. composed for Jinhein Naaz Hain Hind Par is pure genius.”

    On Geeta Dutt: ” Geeta Dutt had the most original voice in film music.”

    On the best singer of the lot: “Shamshad Begum had the best voice. It was what you could truly call khanakti aawaz. She was right in believing I downplayed her in order to promote Asha.”

    Comment by gajanan — May 18, 2007 @ 12:54 pm | Reply

  367. http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070201&fname=opnayyar&sid=2&pn=2

    OPN’s views . click on the web site above and below are excerpts from the above site.

    On S.D. Burman: ” The way S.D. composed for Jinhein Naaz Hain Hind Par is pure genius.”

    On Geeta Dutt: ” Geeta Dutt had the most original voice in film music.”

    On the best singer of the lot: “Shamshad Begum had the best voice. It was what you could truly call khanakti aawaz. She was right in believing I downplayed her in order to promote Asha.”

    Comment by gajanan — May 18, 2007 @ 12:55 pm | Reply

  368. http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070201&fname=opnayyar&sid=2&pn=2

    OPN’s views . click on the web site above and below.

    On S.D. Burman: ” The way S.D. composed for Jinhein Naaz Hain Hind Par is pure genius.”

    On Geeta Dutt: ” Geeta Dutt had the most original voice in film music.”

    On the best singer of the lot: “Shamshad Begum had the best voice. It was what you could truly call khanakti aawaz. She was right in believing I downplayed her in order to promote Asha.”

    Comment by gajanan — May 18, 2007 @ 12:57 pm | Reply

  369. Gajanan thanks for the links I think I have read these comments earlier on this page.
    Shamshad begum had a flat and unemotional voice devoid of any expression. I wonder why Op Ji fascinated with it. Geeta dutt too had a unique voice but not the best even at that time. She suited a particular category.
    Any references to other m>D. or contemporaries besides the reference to SD? I am curious to know what he thought of compositions which had gone on to becoming a craze at his time..his contemporaries.

    Comment by Krishnan — May 18, 2007 @ 2:02 pm | Reply

  370. Krishnan, Shamshad begums voice was one which left you moved because of its clarity and perfect notes. Op’s compositions were easy on the ear but difficult to sing. So a singer of her talent could well blend into his songs and bring out the frshness of the tones almost to perfection. Nothing can be more deleghtful to a Music Director than to hear his creations in a divine voice. In the manner he trained Asha Bhonsle he could have accorded the same attention to Shamshad. But that was not to happen.

    It is indeed a pleasure to read the wide variety of comments and thoughts expressed on this inimitable musician par excellence. Thank you

    Comment by D Ghosh — May 20, 2007 @ 10:24 am | Reply

  371. Hi Kaveeta,
    I am sorry but I have been out of touch for some personal reasons.Tell me what can I share with you?I just like to read what everyone thinks of Baba.Mera toh yeh haal hai-aaj bhi-ki many times i pick up the phone wanting to hear baba’s voice and then I realise that its no longer possible.I will try and share some photographs that I have when he used to be the judge for Sa Re Ga Ma Pa.

    Comment by Ashwini Karandikar — May 20, 2007 @ 1:22 pm | Reply

  372. Kaveetaji,
    I just learnt how to split a DVD of video songs into individual songs. I also registered with vodpod, and also wordpress separately. But, still I could not understand how to integrate those two, and see that the uploaded videos come onto the blog. the title of the blog i had to create is:cumrao’s video collection.
    Also the quality deteriorates to some extent, when I split the original and rip to my PC.
    Any suggestions from you are welcome.
    Thanks for posting ” Bahut shukriya” of ek musafir ek hasina. A song of superlative quality, which has few equals even in the whole universe of old Hindi film songs. Nayyar’s wizardry at its best, in the tempo, tenor, pace, modulation of the voices.

    Comment by cumrao — May 20, 2007 @ 2:10 pm | Reply

  373. Kaveetaji,
    After some further effort, I could find the way to add 2 video songs to your video collection. Iam still experimenting. If this succeeds, our friends in sachiniti can find all videos, in the same site without logging-in separately for my video collection.
    I hope you dont mind my taking this liberty of intrusion.

    Comment by cumrao — May 20, 2007 @ 7:33 pm | Reply

  374. Hi Ashwini,
    What we would perhaps like to see are vignettes from Op ji’s life through snaps.. perhaps stills of how he spent his days in the last few years and some snaps when he was young and so dapper.
    I know exactly what you mean when you express the loss of not being able to get on the phone and speak to your ‘Baba’. I lost my father a few years ago. He was someone who was much like O P ji ..both were from Lahore and knew each other well. I too have met O P ji as a little kid.
    As for personal problems..Papa often used to say..
    Ya to deewaana hasse ya Tu (almighty) jisse taufeeq de,
    varna iss duniya mein rehkar muskura sakta hai kaun”

    of course this was only in his sombre moments.. otherwise he stressed on the need to incorporate the philosophy..
    Khuda aur Nakhuda (oarsman) mill kar dubo de kashti, yeh to mumkin hai,
    Meri vajahe tabahi sirf toofan ho nahin sakti”

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 21, 2007 @ 12:53 pm | Reply

  375. Cumraoji,

    I have included another song in the vodpod.. the utterly romantic”aaap yunhi agar humse milte rahe’.

    Pyaar kiya to darna kya is naushad saabs composition.. I am creating a separate category in the vodpod for O P jis songs and will include whatever we find on the web there.

    I am in the process of loading on the mp3 player with most of Op Ji hits ..with the help of my friend Devilsworkshop who is a wiz at this… we are experiencing some minor glitches, which should be rectified soon.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 21, 2007 @ 1:14 pm | Reply

  376. Kaveetaji,

    Thanks for including another gem from Ek Musafir Ek Hasina. Another superb romantic duet from this movie which was rarely heard on radio, either Radio Ceylon or Vividh Baharati was ” Thumi mohabat hi hum se mana. bhato iska kusur kya hi”. If I remember well another duet ” Main pyar ka rahi hoon” was not included in the film, though it was another marvelous musical creation.

    If God were to restrict me to choose me to only movie songs of OP compositions, I would find it to be mentally gruelling but in the end I will have to choose Ek Musafir Ek Hasina.

    Thanks again for taking the lead in running this venture. I am sure all OP fans appreciate the one-stop place you are trying to build.

    I have video cassettes of Howrah Bridge, Baap Rae Baap, Ek Musafir Ek Hasina, Kismet, and Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon. I can get them converted to the format that is suitable for playing in India if you have a use for them. Please let me know. Thanks again.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 21, 2007 @ 6:43 pm | Reply

  377. Krishnaji,
    I also once in one of my posts expressed my conclusion also that ek musafir …. is one of the top contenders for the best OP film, if we have to chose amongst the films with all songs excellent(nothing less!). The others for me are Hum sub chor hain, Tumsa nahin…, Aarpaar, C.I.D., Naya Daur, Mere Sanam. One can extend the list further as there are so many films with all excellent songs.

    Comment by cumrao — May 21, 2007 @ 8:08 pm | Reply

  378. Krishna ji..Thanks for the warm words. Its the enthusiasm and passion of the commenters that acts as fuel coupled with the deference one has towards a maestro of the caliber of Nayyar saheb. If one sometimes goes through the comments and imbibes the wealth of information and love as is apparent there it is truly boggling. Similar to flowers attracting bees, the honey within his compositions has as if mesmerised generations of listeners who have therefore thronged here..
    About your video cassettes Krishna ji, if you make an account with youtube or google videos ( its fairly simple) and folllow instructions to up load the songs, then my vodpod will locate them and I can publish it here.
    “Ek musafir Ek Hasina “.. ab kya kahen.. is like Ek Nayyarji Lakhon Deewaane”
    Cumrao ji,
    It is truly a daunting task to ‘choose’.. finally its a matter of mood I guess. At which juncture of your life which melody appeals the most and Nayyar saheb has a repertoire to his credit.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 23, 2007 @ 1:04 pm | Reply

  379. I have been reading here for a few months. I have not heard all the songs mentioned here because I am 27. But I have heard the hits and I love them…..like deewaana hua pagal and others. I have a request to make to Kaveeta ji. Can we have another thread also for music dirctors like R.D.? he is a genius who needs to be honored too.. Dont you all think?

    Comment by Indrani Deb — May 23, 2007 @ 7:36 pm | Reply

  380. Thank you Kaveethaji,
    for posting Aap yuhi Agar. The songs of Ek musafir still act like elixir at my old age. You are very right in saying that our likings are influenced by many factors like our moods, stage and age in life etc.
    BTW, I did upload two video songs in vodpod and sent them to your vodp[od ac. under he name “Kavees video collection”. I first uploaded them to “cumrao’s video collection”. I wonder why you did not receive them.

    Comment by cumrao — May 23, 2007 @ 8:14 pm | Reply

  381. Indrani Debji,
    Yes RD has to be honoured in a separate web site. You must start it like Kaveethji has done. Let this be exclusively for OPN as Siraj Saab has said. OPN was a pioneer in his own right and the way he strode in industry without any back up speaks volumes of his calibre. RD and SD his father are great in their own right and they can be combined in a single web page separately.

    Comment by gajanan — May 24, 2007 @ 6:17 am | Reply

  382. Hi Indrani and Gajanan ji

    On R.D. Burmans birthday I had created a special thread as a tribute to him which has also been widely read. Please read here..and feel free to comment.

    https://sachiniti.wordpress.com/2006/06/28/for-rd-burmanon-his-birthday/

    In fact I would like to request my friends here as well to check it out. Talent and genius should always be applauded, memories re kindled and works of art in any field deserve to be kept alive as do their creators. Let us make the effort to honor another maestro who has dedicatedly aspired to contribute to the field of music, almost his entire life and provided scintillating melodies that has spanned generations as well. Its only fair ..It mirrors our own sensitivity and response to one of the most divine gifts of Mother Saraswati.. Music.

    Cumrao ji..I am glad you like ‘aap yunhi agar’.. I am surprised that it has received only 6 hits so far while Kajra re has 240 hits.It cannot be..maybe the viewer ticker is not working as has happened all these days with all the videos..

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 24, 2007 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  383. Thank you so much for the link Kaveetaa ji..you write so well. I am so glad that you have written a post on R.D…Big Boss. I have left a comment there for you. Each generation provides a genius.. for us it was R.D.

    Comment by Indrani Deb — May 24, 2007 @ 1:35 pm | Reply

  384. Thank you friends for the hearty welcome that you have given me. I was very nervous that i might offend with my comment and others may raise objection. But ‘saanch ko aanch nahin’.

    everyone pays for their misbehaviours. none can escape that.. So A.B. will have to some day pay also. It is a coincidence that there is now a comment on R.D. Burman the great great musician who too was married to A.B. Did you know that he was living alone for many years previous to his death due to differences with her. he had only Rs. 2500 in his bank account when he died. Only one film was on the floor..”Love Story 42′. the world had given up on his talent then. And today all worship him. All M.D.s and their compositions are inspired from him.

    Kaveetaa ji i read your link to your tribute to this great man.. It was so nicely written.. fun and pain and grief all at the same time. A.B. now goes on to behave as if she was in love with the man.she is only exploiting his popularity..God Bless such manipulators!

    Comment by Anjaana — May 24, 2007 @ 2:01 pm | Reply

  385. Kaveetaa..Thanks for this post.

    I had seen a widget of O.P. Nayyar songs in the side bar yesterday. Its not there today..what happened?

    Comment by Jatin Lall — May 24, 2007 @ 6:11 pm | Reply

  386. Hi Jatin,

    Yes I have been trying to post his songs but its not that simple. A friend of mine devilsworkshop had sent me an embed with a flash player.. but apparently wordpress does not support flash players only Google and you tube etc. therefore the widget did not work and I had to remove it. The process is on..

    Perceptive eh?

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — May 24, 2007 @ 6:16 pm | Reply

  387. w

    Comment by hitesh prajapat — May 25, 2007 @ 12:50 pm | Reply

  388. couldnt quite get what hitesh prajapat meant by that single ‘w’.Was it to be a ‘wow’ or a ‘wait’ 🙂

    Comment by anon — May 25, 2007 @ 1:27 pm | Reply

  389. O.P. Nayyar’s style was so unique. Nobody could imitate him. Sometimes they imitated his rhythm and use of dholak but that is not what he was only. The main thing is his melody and combining that with rhythm is difficult. I cannot remember any one copying him.Or maybe they could not. I am a great fan of his songs. It changes my mood completely if I listen to him. The only other who I feel has this quality is Jagjit Singh in ghazals. Nobody to match him. he has lasted while all others have faded.

    Comment by niloufer — May 25, 2007 @ 1:57 pm | Reply

  390. Niloufer ji ,

    there was a film called “andaz apna apna’ by Raj Kumar satoshi with aamir salaman in the lead . The M.D. of the film Tushar Bhatia has tried to re create the magic of Op ji.. If you remember the song with horse beats from that film.. “Ae lo A lo ji sanam hum aa gaye aap ka dil leke’ It was a complete copy of songs like ‘banda parvar tham lo jigar ban ke pyar phir aaya hoon….Phit wohi dil laaya hoon’ of Op Ji’s.

    Comment by Krishnan — May 28, 2007 @ 10:55 am | Reply

  391. Nilouferji,
    Welcome to the group of ardent OP fans. He was truly inimitable, unique. Whenver i hear a set of songs by diffrent MDs in shuffle mode, The moment an OP’s song comes up , my mood is elevated immediately. Never was there a composer, who had such distinctive stile and made every song of his, even in obscure films with third rate star cast and utter flops memorable. something special in every song. An example is C.I.D.909. Every song is utterly delightful, but what a flop film!

    Comment by cumrao — May 31, 2007 @ 5:52 pm | Reply

  392. Kaveetaji,
    Thanky ou very much for posting that really haunting romace of Aap yuhi Agar….I often mentioned in my posts here that for many reasons “Ek Musafir….”, stands out among OP’s later films.
    As I said earlier, Iam trying to post videos of OP’s and some other songs thro’ vodpod.
    They are going into vodpod alright, under the head of “cumrao’s video collection”. but, I am unable to add them to Sachniti, and I am unable to add them to your “Kavee’s video collection”, so that viewers here can access all videos in one place. But I failed in this attempt.
    Any one interested can log-in/sign-up in vodpod and search for cumrao”s video collection. I already posted about 6 or 7 songs. Adding more every day.

    Comment by cumrao — May 31, 2007 @ 6:14 pm | Reply

  393. Hello cumrao ji,

    Yes I know its really tricky. I tried going to your collection as well..but could not locate it.

    Can you spell out the address in detail e.g.you have mentioned cumrao”s video collection. Should it be cumrao’s ?

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 1, 2007 @ 12:27 am | Reply

  394. My all time gr8 fav Music Director..!!! I love his music..!!

    Comment by sun — June 1, 2007 @ 12:01 pm | Reply

  395. Oh , I am sorry Kaveetaji, my mistake by oversight. It is cumrao’s as you rightly guessed. Perhaps, That is why You are not able to go to my videos. I was able to go to yours. I tried to add 2 videos to yours(Kavee’s video collection). Your site in vodpod kept on saying that they are awaiting administyrative approval. Perhaps you also can see that In Kavee’s video collection.
    It shows 2 members , one is my self. and on the yellow header, you will see the titles of my songs as ” awaiting approval and will be published soon” Whose approval? your’s or Vodpod’s?
    Right now I am trying Pando, which can send upto file sizes of 1GB.
    My proposal to you is, if you agree, we can have something like O.P. Nayyar’s Videos, where all our friends can add video, audio and films.
    I badly need feed-back if what I proposed above will work or not. It will work, if everyone regd with vodpod is able to add his contribution.
    I think I never thanked you enough for starting Sachiniti, where we all could exchange nostalgic memories of that golden era, particularly those of that Sangeeth ka jaadugar,OPN.

    Comment by cumrao — June 1, 2007 @ 7:37 pm | Reply

  396. I like to say a few words on Geetha and Shmashad.
    Someone said that Shamshad’s voice was flat without any emotionality. I beg to differ strongly. She had voice of a diffrent kind, Which in her day attracted millions, and ruled the music world along with Nurjehan, before Lata and Asha came along. Everyone knows, That in her early songs, Lata tried to imitate shamshad’s style of singing, which did not suit her.
    Emotionality, different tenors,timbres, modulation, variety etc. , what all you want in a singer, Shamshad had. Recall songs like:Kaise baje dil and Khabr kya from Chandini raat, The songs of Mother India, the songs of Aag, Mohobbat karnewalonka of Ankhen, Chod babulka ghar of Babul, Kabhi aar kabhi paar, Kahi pe nigahen, booz mera kya, Leke pehla pehla(after all OP was not a fool to give one of his best compositions to her), Bachpan ke din with Lata in Deedar, Jab nain mile laralu from Jaadoo, the songs of mela, Nagma and best of all the songs of Patanga, etc., etc.,
    Nurjehan, Shamshad, Suraiya were eclipsed, not because they were inferior, but because tastes have changed and new MDs came along.
    Then Geetha: My most favourite singer. The golden Geetha. I dont want to prolong this post by mentioning her best songs which were too numerous. Her repertoire is muchmore wide. As you said, she had a unique voice too but not at all confined to a narrow range of particular type of songs.
    If one has to pick up the 100 best songs of all time by music fans of all ages , I am sure there will be good no. songs of all these singers, and not merely Lata and Asha.
    Oh yes, I agree that Lata and Asha were the best of all time, but, without prejudice to others.

    Comment by cumrao — June 1, 2007 @ 9:25 pm | Reply

  397. Friends, I have added a separate category called O. P. Nayyars hits to my vodpod, on your right at the top of the page..in Kavees video collection.

    To get there -> click on the header ‘ Kavees Video Collection’.. the page that opens up on the left is a category-> O.P. nayyars hits -> click and it will open up to the videos .

    Below that in the Community section too there is a member ‘Op Nayyars hits’ which is mine.. a collection of his songs..
    I am trying to get as many as I can..right now there are 7 Please add in as many of his as you like…Enjoy

    Cumrao ji,

    It is a good idea. In fact the last hour or so I was trying to upload a separate Video box for only OPjis songs, but I guess since there is already one video box , the embed for another was getting stripped. So I have created the category in the existing vodpod itself. Its simple and accessible.

    I found the two songs that you have sent. One is ‘boojh mera kya naam re’ and the other was ‘pyaar kiya to darna kya’.. Are these op jis numbers? I am quite confused. If they are then I will add them on that category immediately.. also feel free to add any other songs of oP jis you might chance upon..Thanks.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 2, 2007 @ 6:32 pm | Reply

  398. Kaveetaa ji,
    its good that you created a separate category for Nayyars’s videos. Thank you. I too did the same but named it as Nayyar’s Nuggets. Any way the pupose is the same.
    When I sent those 2 songs for inclusion in your video collection, there was no separate category for Nayyar. Also, I was just doing on trial basis in the beginning.
    Therefore, i did one color video of “Jab pyaar kiya to” from Mughal E azam and B/W of “booz mera kya naamre” from C.I.D. You can add the latter in Nayyar category and The other in your general category.
    I do have nearly 70 songs of Nayyar in video form. All of them may not be hits. And Overall I have nearly 500 to 600 Vintage songs in video.
    Candidly speaking, i am getting frustrated because of various reasons. No one seems to be so much interested in the video versions except you and I . The uploading is slow and sometimes fails in vodpod. It says “failure in transcoding”. And in my Tata Broadband package, there is a limit for uploading/downloading. If I am sure of others’ keenness to see, I would gladly undergo the addtional expense.
    BTW, Is there any way, of achieving the same end of file sharing without actually uploading?
    Pl. forgive me for pouring all my troubles before you. No one else is giving me any feedback. Perhaps most of the people here have thse already?

    Comment by cumrao — June 3, 2007 @ 12:28 pm | Reply

  399. cumrao ji,

    firstly thanks for the effort and interest you and Kaveetaa Kaul ji are taking to include O P Ji’s songs here. I would like to put my views across. Maybe the reason why readers are not making known their views is not because they are not interested but because maybe they dont have enough knowledge on the subject. I have seen all the songs and have enjoyed it thoroughly.

    thanks and warm regards to all here. I visit here everyday and my day is not complete without reading here any new comments.

    G.V.Iyer

    Comment by G.V.Iyer — June 3, 2007 @ 12:53 pm | Reply

  400. Thanks iyer ji for your encouraging words. If people like you show interest, it will spur us on to a greater effort to share our views and content on the great OPN

    Comment by cumrao — June 3, 2007 @ 5:29 pm | Reply

  401. Enjoy
    Tareef karu kya uski Kashmir ki Kali

    Hey Duniya Uski do TV version

    yu tho humne laakhs hanse dekhi hai Tumsa ND

    Comment by gajanan — June 4, 2007 @ 7:10 am | Reply

  402. cumraoji and gajanan ji I have included the songs sent/suggested by you in the vod pod..I simply loved them.. ‘Hai duniya ussi ki was so fantastic.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 4, 2007 @ 10:32 am | Reply

  403. Jara right me Dekho ji
    Nishana Choot na jaye.

    I have seen the right side . Yes Kaveetji the videos are there. Anyway a reemphasis.

    Comment by gajanan — June 4, 2007 @ 12:40 pm | Reply

  404. Ha ha Gajanan ji..Fikar not ..Nishana nahin chootega.. Our readers here will look far and hard for a glimpse of O P Jis songs..

    In any case I had explained it in # 397 and have also included it in the main post itself..so that when these comments go higher up and perhaps may be missed, then the post has details as well.

    Cumrao ji,

    I can understand your angst. Yes uploading can be time consuming as well as broadband width consuming. Let me assure you that readers do care.. like iyer ji commented, most may not be computer savvy to enlist solutions. dont worry we are doing Ok..your songs are right up there. Dont go by number of views..its often faulty and fails to update.. Thanks.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 4, 2007 @ 12:57 pm | Reply

  405. Thanks thanks thanks for the lovely songs. They made my day. Mera mood badal gaya. I just wish I could go on listening. I heard All from the op nayyar category.
    I wish we could get more and more..Thank you Kaveetaa ji again and everyone else.

    Comment by niloufer — June 4, 2007 @ 1:23 pm | Reply

  406. OPN, unlike Naushad and Dilip Kumar, always maintained a dignified silence and never run down his rivals. It is on record that Naushad accused Asha Bhosle of “bazaaru-pan” in her voice. Dilip Kumar initially said that there is odour of “daal-bhaat” in the ghati marahastrian accent of Lata Mangeshkar. Very recently an ape called Himesh Reshmiya said that Mukesh had a nasal voice. Thank God, OP never succumbed to such cheap remarks though he could have spilled the beans on Asha in a most uncharitable manner. However,for the sake of record it must be clarified that the first Bhangra number in Hindi films was introduced not by OPN but by Salil Chaudhary in Jagte Raho. The lusty Bhangra ” Koi na bhai koi na” rendered by Balbir and Rafi set to the lyrics of Prem Dhavan and picturised on a group of Sardars with Raj Kapoor as a bewildered bystander was the first and till now the best Bhangra song to appear in any Hindi film.

    Another vastly under-rated duet of OP is from Howrah Bridge : Main jaan gayee tohe sainyaa, ab chhod bhi mori bainya. The full-throated voice of Rafi counter-balanced with the sharp octave of Shamshad, punctuated with superb beats of dholak, and served in the casserole of OP’s trademark maddening rhythm, is a listener’s delight. Once this song is played, the feet start tapping, fingers begin drumming on the table-top and the entire being starts swaying to rhythm.

    I would also rate “Chal akela chal akela” as one of the best numbers of Mukesh.

    Comment by vinod agrawal — June 5, 2007 @ 3:55 pm | Reply

  407. Mr. Vinod,
    Of all the OP numbers, i would accord the pride of place to Mukesh’s “chal akela, chal akela” in terms of sonority of voice, soundness of orchestration and the felicity of tonal expression with which the tune has been crafted. OP excels with his interlude pieces which encompass sudden sweep of myraid violins rising to crescendo, and then get woven with soft sounds of flute and piccolo-pieces and then the entire orchestra suddenly surrendering to one dominant bass instrument, is an amazing piece of musical craftsmanship. Mukesh’s voice has been modulated by OP in such a manner as if the primitive man is calling from his cave with all the challenge and defiance he can muster in his clarion call to a slumbering mankind. The throwing of the gaunlet to “do it alone”, to extricate yourself from the “mela” of insensitive relatives and friends and to respond to the vast unknown horizons which lie ahead with a mix of grief and joy is the motif of this composition.

    The song in it’s rendition and style touches some hidden chord in the listener’s being; setting joy bells ringing and springs of hope welling up in his heart. And that precisely is what the function of a good song should be.

    OP knew his instruments like we know our fingers. The function of a musical instrument is to enhance the dominant mood of the song. Something which the voice cannot do, is more effectively performed by the instrument. So whether it is Rais Khan’s sitar in “jaaiye aap kanha jayenge” or Van Shipley’s guitar in “pukarta chala hoon main”, the instrument in both the cases have heightened the mood very poignantly. It is nobody’s case that other music-directors didn’t have this skill but it was just that with OPN, this quality came across very palpably.

    The Mangeshkar sisters caused untold harm to this musical genius during his life-time. Today’s ” nan-khatai” bandmasters who go by the name of music-directors have behaved like chastened schoolboys before the duo,—-yessing, bowing and scraping their way into what they fondly imagined to be the prime donna’s personal favour. But what has been the end result of this rank sycophancy? Not one worthwhile composition in the last many years from any of these clowns and as far as Lata is concerned, her voice has become a terrible screeeeech! No amount of Saraswati Vandana in a white saree with traditional bindi is going to gloss over that basic deficiency.

    Comment by arun bajaj — June 5, 2007 @ 5:03 pm | Reply

  408. Dear Cum Rao and Kaveeta ji,

    I have accessed a few of the videos that both of you have recently added to this site. On behalf of all OP fans, I would like to thank both of you for your time and efforts. As I have been tied up with some project work, you have not heard from me for a while. Nevertheless, I am logging on every night before going to bed and keeping myself up to date on the postings to this site.

    Thanks again.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — June 6, 2007 @ 7:53 am | Reply

  409. Dear Vinodji,

    I am in complete agreement with you about the duet Main Jaan Gaaye Toje Saya from Howrah Bridge. There is another duet by Rafi and Shamsad (Mohabat ka haat jawani ka pala, subhana alla babu subhana alla)in this movie. Both are so melodious that you can keep listening to them for ever without getting tired.

    I have the video cassette of Howrah Bridge. May be one day I can add the songs to this site.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — June 6, 2007 @ 8:08 am | Reply

  410. Krishnaji,
    “Mohobbat ka haath Jawani ka palla” is my fovourite song too. It is better composed orchestrated, Bringing out the best from the joyous tone of Shamshad. specially, when she says jawani ka palla, we feel like getting up and dance.

    Comment by cumrao — June 6, 2007 @ 7:23 pm | Reply

  411. Arunji,
    you gave a really thoroughly analysed eulogy on Chal akela. your analysis prompted me hear it a few times consecutively. A really really wonderful song. OPN was said to have not much liking of Mukhesh, and he was himself surprised at Chal akela becoming such a great hit.
    I just want to add a little bit to such a wonderful analysis. The chorus bits in that song. I feel they made the song more perfect, an added embelishment, by creating a contrast and transition between Mukhesh voice and the musical interludes. OP, as you rightly said, did not compos it, he carefully ” crafted” it with an exactitude, as if he used some unknown meters to measure their effects.
    Pl. Vinod and you recall one of the earliest creations with Mukhesh-Geetha, ” “Jhuka jhuka hai nigahon” of Miss Coca Cola. There also, he could wonderfully combine the voices of the singers who are not usually associated with each other:Mukhesh and Geetha. With just small bits of simple musical interludes. Immersed in the beauty of their singing and harmonizing with each other, you will hardly notice them.
    both these are such simple tunes, but yet made into treasures to be cherished forever by OP. A perfect control of the modulation of the voices is a speciality of these two songs.
    There are very few such songs by Mukhesh: The nearest I can recall is “Ai pyase dil bezubaan”-shararat-SJ.
    There are very very few chorus pieces as sweet as in Chal akela. I think of two like that: The chorus in “Mera salaam leja”-Uran Khatola-Naushad, and “Mai gareebonka dil”-Abe hayat-Sardar Mallik.

    Comment by cumrao — June 6, 2007 @ 7:58 pm | Reply

  412. Bhagam Bhag songs
    http://www.mp3hungama.com/music/index.php?action=album&id=969

    Comment by gajanan — June 7, 2007 @ 4:10 am | Reply

  413. Arunji and others,
    “Ai pyase dil bezubaan”, mentioned by me in my post above, is ofocurse from “Begunah”, and not from Shararat as mistakenly written by me

    Comment by cumrao — June 7, 2007 @ 6:14 am | Reply

  414. Nan-Khatai Bandmasters have all Pani Kaam Wali Chai like lyric writers. Why write in so much haste , jaisa ki dus bees ka fast local to CGate pakdna hai.

    There is no thinking involved in lyric writing. Sometimes I feel they must be outsourcing lyric writing to some chota mota Hindi school teacher or some fellow who is come to Mumbai is search of a living and is selling Gola-Sherbet outside school gates. You never know , it could be even a temporary job to take lyric writing or a parttime job in addition to hawking some churan-bhelpuri outside the school gates.

    The words used in these lyrics makes you think like this.

    Will we ever get a Shailedra/ Sahir/ Majrooh anymore ya baas outsourced Pani Kum Wali Gana soon lo…..

    Comment by gajanan — June 7, 2007 @ 7:31 am | Reply

  415. I just posted here one audio, Ajab hamari hai zindagani, Kabhi andhera Kabhi ujala. I hope OPN Fans will aprreciate the pathos and haunting melody of the song. OPN could create such sad songs also is a wonder. Though rare, there are a few such songs which proved he was 2nd to none in that class of songs also if he wanted.
    Also enjoy the lively and vibrant Jara haule haule challo

    Comment by cumrao — June 7, 2007 @ 7:59 pm | Reply

  416. Cumrao ji,

    thanks for posting the audio. I would suggest that you edit the title and add ‘audio only’ so that viewers may not misunderstand …since this was primarily a video box. And ofcourse I love ‘haule haule saajna”

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 7, 2007 @ 8:16 pm | Reply

  417. Kaveetaaji,
    Yes, I would tag audio explicitly in future.
    Can you suggest me a free software, by which, i can extract individual songs from a DVD? I tried many free versions, but, they are all inadequate in some respect or other.

    morevoer, They all leave their name or website in water mark on the video. and one more thing: Is it legally OK if I post these videos from prerecorded DVDs purchased in the market? or would I be infringing on copyrights?
    I had some problems with the ripper i used so far. It is only ripping audio now, without video. I am trying 2 or 3 others.

    Comment by cumrao — June 8, 2007 @ 9:49 pm | Reply

  418. Cumrao ji,

    If they leave their name or watermark it should not be objectionable..Its only fair. Also maybe this way the copyright issue gets to be redundant. although I am not absolutely clear if there is one.

    Perhaps you can extract and store on a cd or on your computer and then upload on to youtube, google, Myspace, daily motion..

    As for the audio on Kavees video. all you have to do is add ‘audio’ to the title itself, which you can do even to this audio presently. Go to manage -> edit-> and then change the title accordingly if you like.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 9, 2007 @ 11:25 am | Reply

  419. i met nayyar saab first at his residence at SHARDA, A ROAD, CHURCHGATE in January 1988, then same year on 21st August at hotel Hackman’s Mussoorie…he left his home forever on 30th April 1989…lived in Virar for two years in early 90’s…again i met him at Room no.1, Juhu Hotel, Mumbai in April 1996…and finally at Naupada, Thane on 10th December 2005 where he was living with Nakhua family as paying guest…it is very unfortunate that media and people say that he was abondened by his family but the truth is something else…anyway he was a great music creator, i was, am & will always be an admirer of his creations…i saw the gradual changes in his thinking n behaviour…sach me waqt insaan ko kya se kya bana deta hai…but my strong belief is that only we are responsible for whatever happens with us…i took along the audio cd (all 7 songs) of his shelved film ‘dil tere hawaale’ to present to him but it was badly disappointing to see his very very cold reaction towards the CD…in fact he had distanced himself from music in his later days…i request everybody NOT to see his family members (his wife smt saroj mohini nayyar, son and 3 daughters)in B & W though i’ve never met them (except once when i met one of his daughters for a few seconds)…jo kuchh hum sunte aaye hain wo kewal ardhsatya hai…SHISHIR KRISHNA SHARMA (JOURNALIST, FILM HISTORIAN & RECORD COLLECTOR)

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 9, 2007 @ 11:28 pm | Reply

  420. reg: comment (no.320) by hemant…
    hi hemant…i have this LP Record(Akalmand) …other rare nos. (LP’s) of Nayyar Sahab i have are Howrah bridge, chhoomantar, Ragini, Hongkong, Baharein Phir bhi aayengi, heera moti, bin maa ke bachchey, khoon ka badla khoon, pran jaye par vachan na jaaye,muqaddar ki baat (incomplete), 2 SP’s with all 4 songs of aisa bhi hota hai, EP’s of CID-909, mitti me sona/jaali note, dil aur mohabbat, Audio CD’s of baap re baap, sone ki chidiya,naya andaz, mai baap, hum sub chor hain, kalpana, do ustad, mohabbat zindagi hai, shrimaanji, 12’o clock, do dilon ki dastaan, taxi driver, jaane mehboob (shelved), dil tere hawaale (shelved) and the only NON-HINDI (Telugu) film neerajanam…apart from these i hv nayyar sahab’s the magic of Ashok Khosla (audio cassette), double album (LP’s) loves of Runa Laila and VCD of Nasihat…and also all other NOT rare category LP’s (CID, Naya Daur, Kashmir ki kali, ek musafir…, Phir wohi dil…, mere sanam, humsaya, kismet, Phagun, aarpaar, sambandh, ek baar muskura do, nishchay, zid etc.) i’m eagerly searching for the LP’s of CID-909, dil aur mohabbat,the killers, kahin din kahin raat…agar kisi ke paas ho to iss gharib ko daan kar dein, aajeewan RINI rahunga….ACD bana kar denge to bhi calega…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 10, 2007 @ 8:49 am | Reply

    • I have some of the songs you are looking for (CID-909, dil aur mohabbat,the killers, kahin din kahin raat). Please email me.

      Comment by VS — March 25, 2009 @ 10:31 pm | Reply

  421. Kaveetaaji,
    Yes, thank you. I already did what you suggested for audio.
    And, i think you are right about copyright also. I have all my video songs on DVDs. I am extracting/ripping/splitting or whatever you call the process from the DV disc to my PC through some software or other. It is about this software, I asked you about.If something free and reliable one is available. So far, I tried not less than 20, and I found everyone of them has some limitations. May be the one which gave my already uploaded songs is the best one even with water mark. If it is not too expensive for me, then, I will buy it and get the license.
    I hope people dont mind that water mark, as you can still enjoy the picture.
    so, actually, I am uploading from my Hard disc, what has already been ripped out of the original DVD.
    Pl. reassure me I am not vexing you too much with my doubts and questions, in this learning phase.
    Thank you once again.

    Comment by cumrao — June 10, 2007 @ 10:25 am | Reply

  422. Warm welcome to you Shishir ji,

    der aaye par durust aaye’

    Your comments were interesting and informative to say the least. Since you seem to have been closely associated with OP ji your insight into his life will definitely be more authentic than what is available to us or rather made available to us.
    If you read my post, I had quoted the source of this news in Mid Day, which appeared last year. One wishes that more efforts are made by the media to authenticise their reportings. but its like asking for the moon.

    A few commenters previously, like Anu etc have spoken of what your averments are as well. I must confess though that I and a few others who have mailed me, have not quite understood what you meant by this ” i request everybody NOT to see his family members (his wife smt saroj mohini nayyar, son and 3 daughters)in B & W “..Would you care to clarify

    We as his ardent admirers have ethically, morally concerned ourselves with his music, ever since his sad demise. A genius ought to be revered for his work, which is an embodiment of his soul. The peripherals are and should be left for the fringes. One hoes and prays fervently that he may be peaceful forever as also his family..

    Your knowledge is invaluable and you will find so many gems who comment here also well versed in OPjis
    compositions..

    Regards
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 10, 2007 @ 2:57 pm | Reply

  423. Cumrao ji,

    I will be only too glad to assist you in whatever manner I possibly can.. so please be rest assured 🙂

    There is a programme known as ‘Nero’ which is most suited for your needs, if what I have gleaned is right..Its a software which can be downloaded easily. Have you tried at download.com?

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 10, 2007 @ 3:04 pm | Reply

  424. kaveetaji, till a few days back my 6 years old P3 computer was just a typewriter and a radio for me (as being a journalist i write on it & have one of the drives full of around 2500 old hindi songs)…but thanx to my teenaged son who compelled me to get a 24 hrs NET connection which opened a new world to me…. as far as nayyar sahab is concerned, no doubt he was a great composer but simultaneously he was a human being also who had many weaknesses. i am in constant touch with composer Jaidev Kumar who recently composed music for Manmohan Singh’s Punjabi film and is closely related to nayyar family (OPN was his mausaji). after his demise, media projected his family as ‘villain’ who had ousted him from the posh flat but nobody knows that nayyar sahab wanted to sell that flat (worth in crores) and move away leaving behind his family on road. pati aur baap banna hi sub kuchh nahi hai, pati aur baap ka farz bhi poora karna chahiye…anyway he lost the court case…with and for whom he was playing this game is another story but the fact is, ‘that fellow’ also ditched him after he lost the case…it’s true that ‘chadhte sooraj ko sub salaam karte hain’…but another truth is ‘kaamyaabi insaan ko bhale-bure me farq karna bhula deti hai’….isliye unn logon ko to apna bana kar rakhna chahiye jinhein sooraj dhalne ke baad apna kaha ja sake…unfortunately nayyar sahab failed to do so…now i would like to tell the readers that i have met and interviewed almost all the artistes of B&W era, be it Nadira, Bina Rai, Manju, Kalyanibai, Shyama, Promila, Kumkum, Tuntun or Snehal Bhatkar, Vanmala, Shamshad Begum (pl type Shishir Sharma columnist in google), sardar malik, Ravi, Sudha malhotra, Mubaraq begum, Sharda, mahipal, suman kalyanpur etc.etc….do you know Munavvar Sultana and Datta Dawjekar are still alive n i’v met n intrvwd them? guess who they are…rest in next mail…bye…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 10, 2007 @ 6:39 pm | Reply

  425. Shishir ji,

    welcome, welcome, welcome. I really enjoyed reading your posts. As Kaveeta ji has said ‘der aaye durust aaye’ and also thanks to your son for introducing you to the net. We would have not have had the opportunity to meet you here. Please consider Sachiniti like your home, like most of us do.Please keep writing here often..Thanks.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 10, 2007 @ 6:52 pm | Reply

  426. hi krishnan ji…am really enjoying this new world…being a part of film world n a film historian i hv closely seen the darkness behind the glitterings…hv bn witness to the frustrations of retired n long forgotten artistes…am associated as freelancer with sahara group, hv traced n intrvwd many such artistes in my columns ‘kya bhooloon kya yaad karoon’ n ‘log’ published in weekly sahara samay (hindi), traced out Shamshad begumji who had mistakenly been declared dead by media on 10th August 1998 but is still alive n is in mumbai only (front page news Dainik jagran dtd 12.10.04 n Asian Age dtd 13.10.04)…hv covered many studios e.g. b’bay talkies, filmistan, filmalaya, wadia movietone, basant pictures, rajkamal, ranjit etc)…wo zamana hi kuchh aur raha hoga… though i was born when cinema was getting coloured yet i’v a passion for B&W era…i would be happy to share my experiences with ‘schiniti’ family…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 10, 2007 @ 7:23 pm | Reply

  427. Shishir saheb,

    Please do share with us anything you feel like. It would be really good. Shamshad ji..how is she and where is she?.

    Comment by niloufer — June 10, 2007 @ 10:57 pm | Reply

  428. hi niloufer…shamshadji is in mumbai only living a content life…is residing in a posh locality at Powai Andheri (East) with her daughter and son in law Lt.Col.(Retd.) and a granddaughter…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 10, 2007 @ 11:13 pm | Reply

  429. on 29th of May two legends of hindi n marathi cinema departed from us…Vanmala n Snehal Bhatkar…Vanmala started her career with Marathi film LAPANDHAV (1940). Then she played main lead RUKHSANA in Sohrab Modi’s Sikandar(1941) opposite Prithviraj Kapoor…she did 22 hindi n 10 marathi films…her last film was the FIRST PRESIDENT AWARD winner Shyamchi aayi (1953,in which she played the title role n was also the co-producer of that film) n then she took ‘sanyaas’ and started living in Mathura…. Music Dir.Snehal Bhatkar started his career with Rukmini swayamvar (hindi/1946)under the sangeetkar-jodi named vasudev-sudhir(his actual name was vasudev bhatkar n sudhir was the ‘jyoti kalash chhalke’ famed sudhir fadke) but that proved to be the first n last film of this duo…then snehal did Kidar Sharma’s neelkamal (1947) independently with the name B.Vasudev…coincidently Raj Kapoor n Madhubala also started their resp. careers in main lead with Neel Kamal only n Snehal also gave playback for Raj in this film…Mukesh also sang 3 duets (one with hamida bano, 2 with zohrabai ambalewali) in this film BUT not for Raj but for another artiste Pesi Patel…snehal may be a lesser known M.D. but can we ever forget his ‘lehron pe leher ulfat hai jawan’, ‘ai mere humsafar rok apni nazar (sung by Nutan)’, ‘sochta hoon mai ye kya kiya maine’, ‘wo dekho dekho dekh raha hai papiha’ n above all ‘kabhi tanhaaiyon me yun hamari yaad aayegi’????…I once again ask my friends if anybody knows who is DATTA DAWJEKAR….?

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 11, 2007 @ 8:31 am | Reply

  430. Shishir ji, the ‘bhav geet’ category that these two Snehal Bhatkar and Sudhir Phadke epitomised has so been soothing to many a music lovers ears.’Jyoti kalash chalke’ remains a favourite..and so does ‘leheron pe leher’It is sad that these two then limited themselves to Marathi films..or maybe were compelled to do so.

    Datta dawjekar was a music director who was accomplished ..I read of it somewhere. Correct me please.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 11, 2007 @ 11:02 am | Reply

  431. lata’s first film as plaback singer was ‘aap ki sewa mein (1947)’…the very first song she recorded was a thumri ‘paa lagoon kar jori re shyam na khelo mo se hori’, penned by late mahipal (navrang fame) who was not only an actor but also a very good poet…this song was picturised on Rohini Bhate n the music director was Datta Dawjekar. in other words v cn say that today’s lata was introduced to the hindi cinema OR given first chance by DD only who gave music in 2 more hindi films (adalat/1948 n golkunda ka qaidi/1954)…anuradha poudwal was also introduced by DD n the film was a marathi one, ‘yashoda (1974)’n the song was ‘ghumla hridayi ninaad ha’…we r fortunate that 90 years old DD is still in good health n is residing in 4 bunglows area….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 11, 2007 @ 12:33 pm | Reply

  432. Shishir Sharma ji,

    Your information is first hand and most valuable. It will be very interesting to know how these legends cope with not being in the limelight anymore after having spent an illustrious life. Do share gems from your experience. It will make great reading and a lesson in ‘life’ and its ups and downs.

    Most eagerly awaiting your posts.

    Comment by Nitin Bahl — June 11, 2007 @ 12:45 pm | Reply

  433. hi nitinji…during last 4 years i’v met n intrvwd almost all such artistes (except manorama n shakila who r not ready to gv any intrvw) and got 2 pix with each of them clicked for my record…(for Bina Rai n Ameeta’s intrvws u cn log on to ‘jagran.com’ n then click ‘yaadein’in the left side column)…though i’ll keep on sharing my experiences with sachiniti fellows yet for detailed articles pl wait for my book ‘packup ke baad’ which is supposed to come in market by mid 2008…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 11, 2007 @ 1:05 pm | Reply

    • Can anybody give me information on yesteryear actress Shakila…I believe she was one of the most gorgeous actresses to grace the Indian Film Industry…but she disappeared after her last film…what is she doing nowadays?

      Comment by Bibhash — March 30, 2009 @ 10:58 pm | Reply

  434. Kaveetaaji,
    Thank you for your willingness to help.
    Nero doesnt serve my purpose, as it is used for recording on Various CDs and DV discs, from your PC, or other sources. I do have Full versions of Nero, and Roxio, which came to me from OEM. No problem with them. But they can only “burn” on to discs the content , be it documents, audios or videos.
    My requirement is to “cut”/split/chop, all meaning the same, a particular video file, containing many songs or a movie,and extract individual songs from the file. We want such individual songs for posting in vodpod or Sachiniti. no?

    I havnt yet found a suitable free software so far. still searching.

    Comment by cumrao — June 11, 2007 @ 7:04 pm | Reply

  435. More on Howrah Bridge

    My friends in #406/409/410. One cannot possibly complete any discussion on the musical score of Howrah Bridge without comments on the flowing Asha number “Ye Kya Kar Dala Tu Ne…” which is a listener’s delight. Actually,out of the 8 songs on the sound track, this is perhaps one song in that OP trademark beat and the inimitable orchestration. Interestingly, the lyrics of this song are penned by Hasrat Jaipuri, a rarity for OP, as Hasrat was otherwise a key element of the S-J camp.

    Some of the other films whose music is top notch but surprisingly not heard much and not written about either is 12 ‘O’ CLOCK for one. Another 7 gems there including the last song recorded by OP in Geeta’s voice, the duet with Rafi – Tum jo huay mere hamsafar rastey badal gaye. (OP mentioned to me that when Rafi picked up Geeta from her home for the recording, he realized that she was high. Yet thay made it to the recording studios somehow and it goes to the credit of Geeta that the song was recorded on the first take. She had memorized each word and did not have to look at the written text, despite the condition she was in. However, by then OP had decided that he was done with Geeta – a regret he harboured until his death. I also rate Kaheen Din Kaheen Raat very high. Mahendra Kapoor has sung very heartily for OP in this movie. But perhaps OP’s most under-rated film must be Love & Murder, which has some incredible songs. And oh, Naseehat…. Ankhonse ishaara kar ke hamein… Kabhi hamari mohabbat ka imtehaan na lo… mujh ko deewana na kar… Teri ankhon ne in ankhon se jo baat kahee….. Where does one stop? OP’s music continues to be like a waterfall (aabshaar) timeless.

    OK folks… now here are some news items.

    Quietly but surely an OP Nayyar Foundation has taken shape as a legal entity, based in Mumbai. Part of OPN continuing royalties from SaReGaMa will flow into it per his will. OPNF will provide financial assistance to struggling musicians. It will also have a place to house OPN’s memorabilia (and believe me there is more than the topee) in his personal possessions.

    Please do check out Lokvani.com. Next weekend, I have organized an event called WHEN RHYTHM WAS KING (the title of my biography) in Boston in memory of the great man. If anyone lives in the USA, I would like to invite you to experience what we are hoping to be, an unforgettable evening. If anyone sends me an email at Khansaheb2@aol.com, I will be happy to even let you have a peek at the list of songs which the local singers are planning to perform.
    ( Ashraf —- you were supposed to be contacting me)

    Kaveeta – aap ne apne saath is safar mein bohat se humsafar bana liye hein. Ye karvaan kahan ruke ga yeh to ilm naheen, magar safar pur lutf hota jaa raha hai. Yunhi saath saath chalen sada. Kabhi khatm apna safar na ho.

    Take care

    Siraj Khan
    Khansaheb2@aol.com
    Boston, USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 12, 2007 @ 7:51 am | Reply

  436. Shishir ji, that is indeed news that Datta jawdekar introduced lata Mangeshkar. I have also heard that Lata had composed music for films under the name of Anandbhan..is that right?

    Cumrao ji,

    Yes I get what you mean. as far as my knowledge goes, the eaiest way would be to download the songs individually from nero and store it , by copy pasting , on the hardware ( my computer) and then getting the url post it on youtube etc.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 12, 2007 @ 12:57 pm | Reply

  437. Siraj Ji,

    The story behind “tum jo huye mere humsafar” and Geeta dutts ‘condition’ is saddening and amazing at once. What talent and then just downhill..I love the romanticism of that number. Geeta dutt perhaps had to pay the price for pining for her loved one to death..love is a strange entity. It makes you or mars you. Such versatility and yet so forlorn. A womans heart can bear a thousand brunts but cannot overcome pain of rejection I suppose.We all come into this world with our own unique tales to enact, tragedies are a zillion!!

    Many felicitations for your concert and best wishes for its thundering success. Do share with all of us here the mood of that evening and the magic it created. I can well envision the ‘aabshhaar’ of Op jis tunes cascading into the hearts of the audience and ‘ruah ruah kaanp uthega’ presumably, with the haunting melodies evoking a flood of emotions! Kaash.. I could be there..I hope all the readers here from Boston will avail of this great opportunity.

    Rahi baat iss karavan ki Sira ji to Majrooh ji ke aashaar yaad aa gaye

    “”Main akela hi chala tha janibe-e-manzil magar

    Log sath aate gaye aur karavan banta gaya”

    Jub humsafar itne lajawaab hain to karavan bhi manzil bhi utni hi hasen hogi. Aap jaise connoisseurs and all the commenters here have filled my days with joy and anticipation , which I look forward to everyday.Through this O P ji’s memory will be alive forever..bass yunhi saath sath chalte rahen..Amen

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 12, 2007 @ 1:22 pm | Reply

  438. Actually Siraj saab you can web cast at Lokvani.com. If time matches we can watch it globally or otherwise you can post it at LOkvani.com. If you intend to do this , then wah wah to you from all of us, before web casting. Good luck and best wishes

    About the Geeta Dutt story, one can say that sometimes gusse me aadmi kya nahi kaar patha hai.

    Some become tough by failures.
    Some broken hearted.
    the latter is numerous
    the former is rare

    I have read this quote somewhere.

    Comment by gajanan — June 12, 2007 @ 2:11 pm | Reply

  439. kaveetaji, lata was hardly 14 when she acted in marathi film ‘pahili mangalagaur’…then in ‘badi maa (hindi)…during those days she also composed some marathi film songs at bhalji pendharkar’s kolhapur based ‘jayaprabha studio’….but under the name ‘anandghan’ (NOT anandbhan)….many years later there were talks of her composing music for Rishikesh Mukerji’s ‘anand’ but things didn’t work out…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 12, 2007 @ 6:16 pm | Reply

  440. Shishir ji ..was Lata only 14 when she composed music? I researched on the net and found it not so. Anandghan she became when she was already a renowned singer..Shri O P Nayyar had enquired after hearing her songs as to ‘who is Anandghan?’

    Please read this link
    http://www.hamaraforums.com/lofiversion/index.php/t14432.html

    So she was not that young at the time.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 12, 2007 @ 7:27 pm | Reply

  441. I am quoting the relevant text in Lata jis words ‘

    “After the movie was done, C. Ramchandra, O.P. Nayyar etc had come to Kolhapur to attend my sister’s wedding ceremony. C. Ramchandra asked me, “Lata, tell me one thing, who is this musician ‘Anandaghan’?” I replied, “May be someone, I do not know.” He then said, “Do not speak a lie, okay.” I said, “Why don’t you ask Datta Davjekar. He would tell you” I tried to avoid. But he kept on asking me. He said , “On listening to those compositions, I feel that someone who understands music well has done that work. It is not possible for any common person.” I said, “May be the person understands music. May be Bhalji Pendharkar knows about him.” Saying this, I slipped away from there.

    After ‘Mohityanchi manjula’, I gave music for ‘Maratha tituka melavava’, but still my name was a secret. But after the release of ‘Saadhi manasa’, this secret came out. That movie was awarded around 8 state government awards. Director, story, music etc. The song ‘Airanichya deva tula’ got the song award. I accepted it. Then the award for music was declared, but I kept sitting. But someone had told the announcers that I myself had given the music. And the announcer requested that I should accept the award, but still I kept sitting. Then they announced that Latabai should come on to the stage, and Anandaghan was none other than Lata. Then I went and received the award. ……. I gave music for Bhalji Pendharkar’s ‘Tambdi maati’. That was my last music direction. I never had the interest in giving music to songs, but still once I had thought that myself and Hridaynath should together give music together, similar to Shankar-Jaikishan, I thought we could give it as ‘Lata-Hridaynath’. But Hridaynath would not have liked it, so I just dropped the idea…. But I had felt that way.”

    If Asha bhonsle was getting married.. how old was Lata? And she said she wanted Hridayanaths help.. so he too was older.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 12, 2007 @ 7:31 pm | Reply

  442. Some more information kaveetaaji..yes you were right.. this is the cd of Lata jis songs.

    “Sakaal papers trust and hmv-saregama brought out whole collection of lata mangeshkar’s (anandghan) songs two years ago.
    the cd is named as ” lata mangeshkar-the composer”

    Comment by Krishnan — June 12, 2007 @ 7:38 pm | Reply

  443. krishnanji, what i said is,lata was hardly 14 when she acted in pahili mangalagaur…i don’t say she composed….in 1947 at the age of 18
    she started her career in playback…here i give a quote from ‘sands of time’ Oct’92, compiled n translated by preeti shah n niranjan iyengar n based on harish bhimani’s biography of lata, ‘saat suron ke saath’ – ‘i
    used to once compose music under an alias ‘anandghan’. it happened quite accidentally. when the selected composer didn’t report bhalji pendharkar panicked and came running to me. i impulsively said ‘what’s so difficult about composing music? i’ll do it! and thus i was drawn into it…’ here i wud like to add that bhalji’s studio had been burnt n shut and being an RSS worker he was sent to jail after Gandhi’s assessination in 1948(as per Sulochnaji who started her career at jayaprabha studio only)….secondly i don’t remember if lata (anandghan) had composed for any hindi movie…jahan tak sawaal hai marathi films ka to unke baare me meri jaankaari masha-allah hai…anyway i’ll try to findout the facts n the list of her films as composer…pl do correct me if u get any such information…thnx…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 12, 2007 @ 8:16 pm | Reply

  444. i’ll be obliged if anybody sends the list of films with music composed by anandghan (i.e.lata) alongwith years of release…information placed on NET can’t be called reliable as the list of films by Mr.O.P.Nayyar shows ‘jai bhawani'(2000) as his last film whereas the music of this film was composed by Priyesh Vakil…similarly Naushad’s filmography contains nagma, baradari, char chand, darwaza etc. all the films with music by NASHAD (not Naushad) on net…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 12, 2007 @ 10:54 pm | Reply

  445. Siraj Sahib.
    Refer your post # 435. It is so heartening to hear about “OP Nayyar Foundation”. It is wonderful to know that you are arranging an event in Boston ,”WHEN RHYTHM WAS KING”. I wish I can take some time out to be there on that evening; I am not sure though. I tried to call you on your cell just now but couldn’t get your number, the bell kept ringing though. I will try to call you again, later. I am going to reach you through your email as well.
    Kaveetaji.
    Sachiniti, has become such an interesting phenomenon to learn so many new things about OPN an others. It is a MUST-READ before going to bed. We are now addicted to Sachiniti, lol.

    Comment by Ashraft — June 13, 2007 @ 12:37 am | Reply

  446. ashraft saab,

    aapki zarra nawaazi hai..
    yeh dilwaalon ki mehfil hai,jisse dilwaale hi parakh sakte hain.

    Regards
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 13, 2007 @ 11:44 am | Reply

  447. Shishir ji,

    The link I have provided in #440 is a direct quote of Lata mangeshkar…so we can be quite sure of its authenticity. Also the cd of her songs is available. though let me make it clear here like Arun Bajaj and Vinod aggarwal i am not anymore a great fan of her voice or her nature from what one gets to hear.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 13, 2007 @ 12:36 pm | Reply

  448. Siraj saab,

    I agree with gajanan. Is there some way that you can post clippings on youtube? kaveetaaji can post it here on the vodpod for us the. this way we can all have a glimpse. please take the trouble ..i know it may be difficult..

    Comment by niloufer — June 13, 2007 @ 12:48 pm | Reply

  449. For the fans of OPN, Geetha and Guru Dutt, I have posted 2 gems of songs from the old Film Baaz starring Guru Dutt and Geetha bali. I hope I am not wrong in thinking that it was Guru duttproductions first venture. Pl correct me if I am wrong.

    Comment by cumrao — June 13, 2007 @ 7:52 pm | Reply

  450. Oh, I am terribly sorry. The male voice in “Mujhe dekho hasrat” is Talat’s, not Rafi’s

    Comment by cumrao — June 13, 2007 @ 7:57 pm | Reply

  451. CumraoJi.
    Songs of the movie “BAAZ” posted by you are so nice to hear. I would appreciate if you can add another song from the same film …”Zara samne Aa”…. by Geeta. I love this song

    Comment by Ashraft — June 15, 2007 @ 7:42 am | Reply

  452. ever heard ‘tere hum o sanam too jahan mai wahan…sooraj too zarra mai too kahan mai kahan’ (Rafi, Lata)? cn anybody pl tell me which film is this? i hv thi duet in an MP3 cd but without mention of the film, Music dir. n lyricist?

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 15, 2007 @ 12:33 pm | Reply

  453. ever heard ‘tere hum o sanam too jahan mai wahan…sooraj too zarra mai too kahan mai kahan’ (Rafi, Lata)? cn anybody pl tell me which film is this? i hv thi duet in an MP3 cd but without mention of the film, Music dir. n lyricist…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 15, 2007 @ 12:34 pm | Reply

  454. Shishir ji, I have not heard of this song..must be really a rare number.

    I was wanting to Know what has happened to Jaidev another music composer who had immense talent. His songs from reshma aur shera like ‘piya tum ho sagar main pyaasi nadi hoon’ and ‘tu chanda main chaandni’..they are so soothing and melodious.

    Comment by niloufer — June 15, 2007 @ 6:23 pm | Reply

  455. nilouferji, jaidevji died long back in mid 80’s…as he was unmarried n no other relative of his is tracable, i could not write about him…but i’ll definitely tell you more after confirming the facts i know about him…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 15, 2007 @ 6:41 pm | Reply

  456. gajananji, thank u v much for introducing us to ‘bhagambhag site'(vide cmmnt no. 412)…as u know i’m ‘late lateef’, am going thru the posts slowly n steadily…i’v downloaded all these rare songs n got a cd burned for my collection…i’v failed to get (complete s.track of) nayyar sahab’s these films -aasmaan, baaz, chham chhama chham, mangu, mehbooba, miss coca cola, musafirkhana, sabse bada rupaiya, dhake ki malmal, mr.lambu, smt.420, bade sarkar, duniya rang rangili, johny walker, qaidi, ustad, farishta, kabhi andhera kabhi ujala, mr.cartoon m.a., mujrim, basant, jaali note, mitti me sona, love n murder, cid909, nasihat, dil aur mohabbat, kahin din kahin raat,the killers, mangni…though i’v one or two songs of most of these films…pl do inform the sites, if any, from whr i could download these s.tracks as i did ‘bhagambhag'(though one song, asha’s ‘ye duniya faani hai’ is missing in this site)….i’ll be obliged gajananji…thanks…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 16, 2007 @ 10:45 am | Reply

  457. Shishirji,

    Regarding your query about “Tere hum o sanam”……this song is composed by “laayak baap of bigda hua beta……you know whom…Sardar malick. Suman is with rafi and the name of the film is “Bachpan”. There is another solo of Rafi in this film….”Mujhe tumse mohabbat hai magar main keh nahin sakta”…both are quality compositions.

    Comment by arun bajaj — June 16, 2007 @ 11:19 am | Reply

  458. thnx arunji…ek zamaane se iss sawaal ke jawaab ki khoj me tha…agar aap malik sahab ka naam na bhi bataate to bhi ‘laayak baap of bigda hua beta’ apne aap me sub keh deta…ha…ha…ha…bazigar o bazigar (kaun hai jo sapno me aya)…ai mere humsafar ai meri jaane jaan (khoobsoorat hasina jaane jaan jaane man) aur aur bhi bahut kuchh…malik sahab ki tadap aur bechargi bahut kareeb se dekhe hain maine…kis tarah unke career ko paleeta lagaya gaya…do diggajon ki ladai me pis gaye they bechare…unke saath bhi wohi hua (saranga jaisi hit ke baad) jo 1973 ke baad nayyar sahab ke saath hua tha…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 16, 2007 @ 11:52 am | Reply

  459. mujhe tumse mohabbat hai magar main keh nahin sakta
    magar main kya karoon bolen bina bhi reh nahin sakta

    Beautiful..so melodious. I didnt know it was sardar malik..Such timeless compositions.Even the songs of ‘saranga’ like you mentioned Shishir ji, were lovely.. especially the title song. I wonder why he failed to get his share of fame after that. Aaj kal ke composers in ke joote laayak bhi nahin.

    Comment by niloufer — June 16, 2007 @ 11:58 am | Reply

  460. Anu malik is nowhere close to his father but i think his songs in Umrao jaan and phir teri kahani Yaad ayee were good.

    Comment by niloufer — June 16, 2007 @ 12:08 pm | Reply

  461. Thank you ashraftji for yr apreciation of the 2 Baaz songs, which , in my opinion are the best in the film. but, I have all the songs of Baaz songs in video. I have the song which you asked for and will post it today.

    Comment by cumrao — June 16, 2007 @ 12:51 pm | Reply

  462. nilouferji,
    not only ‘saranga’,u must hv also hrd malik sahab’s ‘mai gareebon ka dil hun watan ki zubaan (aab-e-hayat), ai ghame dil kya karoon (thokar), chal diya kaarvaan (laila majnu/co-MD ghulam mohd.), chanda se pyare rajdulare (aulaad), bahaaron se poochho (mera ghar mere bachche…60’s me unke naam se recording studios milna band ho gaya tha which was the only n worst setback to his career…n the reason?…(though he didn’t tell me anything clearly as according to him this would adversely affect his son’s career)…once he was recording a song with ‘the greatest lady singer of the universe’…lyricist was the ‘blunt’ sahir sahab…when singer asked him to change one word of the song, sahir said ‘likhna parhna parhe-likhon ka kaam hai…’ (words may be different but this was what he meant)…hurt, she instantly left the recording room…though she kept on working with sahir sahab afterwards, yet ‘gusse ki gaaz giri malik sahab par ki sahir ki baat par wo khamosh kyon rahey’…this is what i’v come to know from many seniors of industry….as far as anu is concerned, he is a very good ‘nakalchi’ and the biggest fan of SJ’s compositions…as far as his original compositions are concerned, i think he uses his father’s unused creations…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 16, 2007 @ 12:56 pm | Reply

  463. Sardar Mallik: apart from Saranga, I have a few more gems of his. Mai gareebonka dil of Abe hayat, Chalta rahe yeh-Lata-chor baazaar, Tere darpe aaya hun by Talat from the same.
    While recalling for the nostalgia pl dont forget Sajjad Hussain of Sangdil fame. dilme samaagaye by lata and talat and Darshan pyasi by Geetha from that film are timeless tunes. I want to confirm from my knowledgeable friends here if Rustom sohraab has also Sajjad Hussain’s music? Hulchul and Saiyyaan are also his I think.

    Comment by cumrao — June 16, 2007 @ 1:05 pm | Reply

  464. ji cumraoji…Rustom Sohrab (1963) was sajjad’s (ye kaisi ajab dastaan ho gayi hai/suraiya, aye dilruba nazren mila/lata)… apart from sajjad, hulchul(1951)had one more MD(mohd.shafi)n saiyan (1951) was again sajjad’s solo…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 16, 2007 @ 1:20 pm | Reply

  465. Speaking of father son legacies, I began questioning myself and found so few. There is S.D. Burman the great and his equally legendary son R.D. There is Roshan and Rajesh Roshan who is not of the same standard as his father, much like Anu and sardar malik. Apart from these I cant think of any more..any ideas?

    Comment by Krishnan — June 16, 2007 @ 3:48 pm | Reply

  466. Thank you Shishirji for the info.

    Comment by cumrao — June 16, 2007 @ 7:07 pm | Reply

  467. Ae Dil ae Deewane is one of my favourite songs and having seen it for the first time on the video, it sounds and feels even better. Both the Geetas ( Geeta Bali and Geeta Dutt) have blended their amazing talents. Thanks for posting it here

    Siraj

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 16, 2007 @ 7:57 pm | Reply

  468. krishnanji, here are some more (not only father-son but others also)…

    chitragupt – anand-milind (sons)

    Pt.Amarnath’s – husnlal-bhagatram (bros)

    jamaal sen – dilip sen sameer sen (brother-son)

    kalyanji – viju shah (son)

    khemchand prakash – basant prakash (bro)

    khemchand prakash – triveniji (of triveni-bhawani duo) (daughter’s son)

    pyarelal – ganesh (bro)

    pyarelal – naresh sharma (bro)

    naresh sharma – mithun sharma (son)

    shrawan – sanjeev darshan (sons)

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 16, 2007 @ 8:02 pm | Reply

  469. Kavita ,
    I live in Delhi and am one of the greatest fan of O P Nayyar. I am planning to organise a O P Nayyar nite in January the month of his birth and death.
    I will be happy if all his fans could join me in making this event a success.
    I have a good collection of songs and would like to have as a part of my collection all that he ever created.In case you have some of his rare numbers please post them on the site.

    Sangeeta Saxena

    Comment by Sangeeta Saxena — June 16, 2007 @ 8:43 pm | Reply

  470. Sangeetaji,
    I have also been suggesting that we post here songs requested by OPN fans. I have a good collection incl some rares, but not at all exhaustive. I love to get the songs I dont have.
    I request Kaveethaji to let sachniti be a all-in-one source of OPN material and his great creations, subdivided into categories.
    I also request all our friends who have a regard for Nayyar, to pl. post into Sachniti, by uploading songs to vodpod and add to O.P.Nayyar’s audio.
    If any one has songs of Johny Walker film, I reqest them to post. I just could get only one song “Thandi thandi hawa”. All songs of that film are great favourites to me.

    Comment by cumrao — June 17, 2007 @ 8:50 am | Reply

  471. Shishirji, your knowledge is really very laudable. I have too little knowledge to add to your list.
    But the name of Basant Prakash revived in me a memory of something. Is not the song “AAjane wafa” by Geetha in Filmistan’s Anarkali, composed by Basant Prakash? That single song in the film, though all others were by C.Ramchandra. I still wonder why Ramchandra did so.

    Comment by cumrao — June 17, 2007 @ 9:01 am | Reply

  472. Nilouferji,
    As I said in my post no. 470, We can all post video or audio songs in sachniti, if Kaveethaaji permits. She has shown the way, and thanks to her, I succeded in posting both audio and video, as you can see.
    Posting here is not the main difficulty.
    One of the problem with many people is that they have most of their audios in cassettes. Most of the working people do not have time to select a particular song, digitize(to mp3 or wav or other formats) and transfer it to PC,(which is necessary before you can post it).
    Believe me it took me nearly 3 yrs and countless no. of hrs to do that for about 9000 songs(of many genres). Ofcourse, i too could not spend the whole day on this work, as i have many activities, though retired.

    Comment by cumrao — June 17, 2007 @ 9:36 am | Reply

  473. ji cumraoji…anarkali’s only song composed by basant prakash was ‘aa jane wafa…’. according to naushad sahab, this film was first offered to him but he denied because he had already signed mughle azam on the same subject… other ‘filmistan’s’ films basant prakash did were ‘badnaan (balraj sahni, shyama/rlsd on 30.05.52), ‘shrimatiji (nasir khan, shyama/shyama’s 1st film signed in main lead,rlsd on 07.08.52/other MD’s of this film were jimmi n s.mohinder)n ‘hum kahan ja rahe hain’ (prakash, nina/rlsd in 1966)…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 17, 2007 @ 11:09 am | Reply

  474. Shishirji,

    I want to mention two timeless compositions of Sardar Malick…..one is from ‘CHOR-BAZAR’apart from ‘Chalta rahe ye carvan’…..’Hui ye hamse naadani teri mehfil mein aa baithe’ sung by the ‘greatest lady singer of the universe’and the other from ‘Mera ghar mere bachhe’…..’Wohi udi-udi ghatayein hain ek tum nahin ho to kuch nahin’ sung by MUKESH. And for mr. cumrao (POST 470) I have to say that heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard are sweeter…..”sab gaane agar aap sun lengein to phir sunnane mein koi kashish nahin reh jaayegi.”

    Comment by arun bajaj — June 17, 2007 @ 11:28 am | Reply

  475. arunji…there could be another milestone in malik sahab’s name…for vinod desai’s film ‘nag-nandini’ he recorded a song ‘chandan sa badan chehra gulaab’ in mukesh’s voice (lyrics by anjaan) but the film was never made… but the same ‘tune’ came in matket and became a big hit but his name was nowhere now. he fought for his rights but the concerned ‘associations’ did nothing in his favour as, according to him, he was a ‘chhota mausekaar’ already fighting against the odds n badluck… n that big hit was ‘chandan sa badan chanchal chitwan’ from the film ‘saraswatichandra’…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 17, 2007 @ 11:57 am | Reply

  476. ‘Chandan sa badan’ from saraswati chandra..that was a plagiarised version? Disturbing. The MD was Laxmi pyare..right?

    Comment by Krishnan — June 17, 2007 @ 12:03 pm | Reply

  477. no…it was Kalyanji Anandji….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 17, 2007 @ 12:06 pm | Reply

  478. he bhagwaan, kahan phansa diya iss 24 hrs. net ne…na nahaane ka hosh na khaane ka…buss computer ke saamne baithe raho iss ummeed me ki ab koi post ayee…ye nasha to uss se bhi bura hai jisne dj aqeel ko dubai me atka diya tha…koi ‘nashamukti kendra’ ka pata batayega pleeeeeeease?

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 17, 2007 @ 12:59 pm | Reply

  479. Kalyanjis son Viju Shah gave some memorable songs in Gupt.. but after that has disappeared. Why is it that sons have rarely carried on the proud legacy of their fathers? except for Rd and to some extent Anu malik and Anand Milind.. the others have not been able to do much. They lack the killer instinct..the need to prove something.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 17, 2007 @ 1:02 pm | Reply

  480. Lol shishir ji.. sahi kaha aapne.. Yeh nasha peechcha nahin chhodta..But it provides you a world like kishore kumar sang..’Jahaan gham bhi na ho aansoi bhi na ho bas pyar hi pyar pale.. ikk aise gagan ke tale’..Thanks to sachiniti..hamara toh din zyaada yehin kat ta hai…LOl

    Comment by Krishnan — June 17, 2007 @ 1:06 pm | Reply

  481. right u r krishnanji…often v hear, ‘har aadmi ke andar ek bachcha hota hai’, so hw cn i b an exeption? here v r always indulged in serious talks…i personally feel, after certain intervals v must try to break the monotony to maintain the warmth n energy…n what i did is the best way for me to do so, though some may find it awkward…anyway, there is a saying in hindi, ‘vat-vriksha ke neeche paudha nahin panapta’ (vegetation can’t survive beneath the banyan tree)…same with these MD’s…i think father’s personality n aura, people’s expectations n children’s carefree lifestyle (since everything is easily available to them) are the main reasons why they lag behind…n nw here is a news…many insiders hv told me that o.p.nayyar sahab’s family living a ‘so called luxurious life’ sells homemade cakes for survival n none of his children (though all 4 in their late 40’s n 50’s) are still unmarried…all my attempts to meet them n confirm this hv gone futile… anyway, mai bhi haar nahin manoonga….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 17, 2007 @ 2:24 pm | Reply

  482. comment 481…cut-paste ki gadbad…pl read the line reg nayyar sahab’s family as… aii his children are unmarried OR none of his children is married…thnx

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 17, 2007 @ 2:28 pm | Reply

  483. Shishir ji, your andar ka bachcha is the same as ours. It is right, we dont have to be serious all the time. Kuch khatta kuch meetha hona chahiye. We should be able to talk of anything concerning music and our experiences with it. And about the ‘nasha’ i think all of us here are facing this addiction. my family is so used to seeing me hours before the computer that when I dont my children ask me ‘ aaj strike hai kya site pae’? LOl

    It will be so nice if you could get us information on OPjis family.So sad to hear their struggle. They must speak of their side also. I think in order to maintain a dignity they dont want to. Up to them.

    Comment by niloufer — June 17, 2007 @ 3:31 pm | Reply

  484. nilouferji…ur cmmnt no.454 reg jaidevji… as i said earlier he was a bachelor and none of his relatives is tracable…i spoke to many seniors of film fraternity….according to them jaidevji lived in a rented accomodation n his last days wete full of struggle as the land lady had ousted him…u mentioned ‘reshma aur shera’…here are some more gems…raat bhi hai kuchh bheegi bheegi (mujhe jeene do)/ dil jawan hai arzoo jawan (samandari daku)/ ye dil aur unki nigaahon ke saaye (prem parvat)/ peetal ki mori gaagri (do boond paani)/ aapki yaad aati rahi (gaman)/ all songs of gharonda, dooriyan, hum dono n aalaap aur aur bhi bahut se….he started his career as a child artist in ‘wadia movietone’s – veer bharat, waaman avtaar, kaala gulaab (all 1934), hunterwali (1935)n miss frontiermail (1936)…in music joined ali akbar khan as asstt. in chetan anand’s aandhiyaan (1952) n humsafar (1953) n then joined S D Burman in taxi driver (1954)…became MD in chetan anand’s ‘joru ka bhai (1955)…his family was originally from ludhiana (punjab)…he was born in nairobi (kenya) on 03.08.18 n died in m’bai on 06.01.87….mere khyaal se itna kaafi hai…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 17, 2007 @ 5:39 pm | Reply

  485. mr. curao,

    regarding OPN’S selection of his ten favourite songs …..what do you think of it? Don’t you think his selection of “aana hai to aa” from Naya Daur could have been more appropriately substituted by another song say “ude jab jab zulfein teri or “saathi haath badhana” , the style which he had created for himself and for which he was known for? It is really amazing that not a single tune from films like ‘phagun’, cid, ‘tumsa nahin dekha’, ‘ek musafir ek haseena’ have been included in his list……i can’t believe this.

    Lata had chosen her ten best songs four decades ago and one could see how pathetic she was in her selection…..not a single creation by Husnlal-Bhagatram, Shankar-Jaikishan, C. Ramchandra, Anil Biswas, SD Burman…not even Vasant Desai, SN Tripathi, Chitragupta and Kalyanji-Anandji. Actually for that matter singers do not have the required competence to judge the quality of the tune because they are merely the instrument in the hands of music-directors who are the real creators. One cannot say the same thing about music-directors but so far OPN is concerned, (with all due respect to him) i don’t think he has justified himself in picking up his ten best tunes.

    Comment by arun bajaj — June 17, 2007 @ 7:13 pm | Reply

  486. Hi Sangeeta,

    Must congratulate you on your decision to commemorate Nayyar ji. If you go through the comments her you will discover a treasure trove of invaluable information which will prove greatly advantageous to you. We are concerned and involved in posting as many songs as possible, the logistics however are challenging.

    Shishir ji,
    Ab nashe se rihaaee hum khud paa nahin sakte
    aur hosh me rehne ki dawa aapko dilla nahin sakte 🙂

    Cumrao ji,

    At the risk of reiteration dear friend, please post as and when you so desire. This site is as much yours and other friends here, as mine. Please let me know what other category you would like to incorporate on the vodpod..I shall do the same.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 17, 2007 @ 8:03 pm | Reply

  487. arunji it’s really v v difficult to select a few ‘the best’ when each n every song is a gem…still looking at the standard of lyrics n music arrangement, my personal choice is…

    1. haath aaya hai jab se (dil aur mohabbat)

    2. raaton ko chori chori (mohabbat zindagi hai)

    3. roka kai baar maine (mere sanam)

    4. nadi ka kinara ho (CID 909)

    5. ye machalta samaa (do dilon ki dastaan)

    6. mai pyaar ka raahi hoon (ek musafir…)

    7. ye dil lekar nazrana (ek baar muskura do)

    8. aaj koi pyaar se (saawan ki ghata)

    9. huzoore wala (ye raat phir na aayegi)

    10.ek too hai piya (pran jaye par…)

    n the reason is, 60’s onwards he started using different instruments n those too differently… otherwise in 50’s wohi mandolin, wohi clarinet n wohi flute…gine-chune instruments, sabhi dhunein ek jaisi lagti theen…(koi poochhe ya na poochhe maine to apni pasand bata di)

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 17, 2007 @ 9:29 pm | Reply

  488. Folks,

    Last night’s event “On a musical journey with OP NAYYAR” held to pay tribute to the great man and his music, held in Boston Masscusetts, USA was a blast –
    a great effort considering it was all local talent.

    Also check out http://www.lokvani.com

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 18, 2007 @ 1:15 am | Reply

  489. Siraj Ji,
    On the link at Lokvani there is an interview with you. But I did not find anything about your programme.

    Shishir ji ..your list is interesting..I dont think most of these were mentioned here before. But as for being his best.. I dont know.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 18, 2007 @ 11:35 am | Reply

  490. krishnan ji…this is my personal choice n others may differ but hw cn one choose cartain ‘the best’ among all ‘the bests’? vaise op’s many other numbers are also my favourite…

    1. bekasi had se jab (kalpana)
    2. udhar tum haseen ho (mr. n mrs.55)
    3. zulf lehrayi to (khoon ka badla khoon)
    4. ghallu ghallu na (neerajanam)
    5. mai miloongi tujhko (jaane mehboob)
    6. dil jhoom rahe masti me (bin maa ke bachche)
    7. honth hain tere (heera moti)
    8. seene me agar dil hai (muqaddar ki baat)
    9. ho jo hukum to meharbaan (hongkong)
    10.o meri gori gori jaan (aisa bhi hota hai)
    ……….n so on

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 18, 2007 @ 12:08 pm | Reply

  491. Shishir ji, since I found your list ‘zara hat ke’ permit me to make a list of my favourites from yours.

    1) raaton ko chori chori

    2) roka kai baar

    3) ek tu hai piya

    4) udhar tum haseen ho

    5) huzoore wala

    6) aaj koi pyaar se

    there are some which I have not been able to recognise.. so sorry. But yes to choose from such a collection is not easy.
    There was a film called ‘ Dulhan ek raat ki’ which had some memorable songs.. “ek haseen shaam ko dil mera kho gaya’//Rafi. Was that madan mohan or op?

    Comment by Krishnan — June 18, 2007 @ 3:06 pm | Reply

  492. Shishir Ji,

    Can you plese upload the songs of “Mukaddar ki baat” ? Till then please give some information on songs of this film “Mukaddar ki baat” like ,
    1. Year of release/recording
    2. Singers
    3. Lirics by :

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — June 18, 2007 @ 4:25 pm | Reply

  493. Thank you so much Shishir ji for giving me details on Jaidev ji. It is so sad to hear that he is no more. I have a whole collection of his songs and listen to them often. That song from Dooriyan’ Zindagi Zindagi mere ghar aana’ songs from Gaman , are wonderful.Those days the MD’s were inspired from classical music and other influences which were melodious. That is why almost all of them were so talented and gave memorable tunes. Today some are good but mostly lift from here and there and keen on giving hits. and making money anyhow. sometimes i wonder whether they are wrong or not. Like you said Jaidev ji died almost homeless and a pauper.If you cannot even get a decent living then what good this talent?

    Comment by niloufer — June 18, 2007 @ 6:29 pm | Reply

  494. krishnan ji…pl see my cmmnt no.420…i’v many rare numbers of OPN n most of my favourites come from these films only…(ab jaise highest played on radio is ‘hey neele gagan ke tale’ jise sun sun kar atleast mai to pak chuka hoon…(m.kapoor ka ‘hey….’ to aisa lagta hai ki wo kisi par attack karne ja rahe hon)…so whenever i want to listen ‘ravi’ i prefer ‘dil hi dil me le liya dil’from the film aaj ki awaaz)…same with OPN…i like his (or any other MD’s) ‘kam bajne waale’ songs…n i think inka rare hona hi is the reason jo aap inse waqif nahin hain…
    ‘dulhan ek raat ki’ was madan mohan…apart from ‘ek haseen sham ko’…this had 7 more songs…’kai din se jee hai bekal…’, ‘kisi ka kuchh kho gaya hai…’, ‘aapne apna banaya meharbani aapki…’, ‘maine rang li aaj chunariya…’, ‘o rajaji…’, ‘sapno me agar mere…’ n kabhi ayee haqeeqat… (n this film was shot at my hometown, dehradoon n i was just 4 that time)

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 18, 2007 @ 8:06 pm | Reply

  495. murty sahab…if u go thru cmmnt no. 424 u’ll cm to know how frndly l am with my cmptr…really i know nothing about it…still i’ll try to load the songs lekin pehle to seekhna padega….i hv an LP of ‘muqaddar ki baat’…this film was never released…LP (no.2392 424) was rlsd by MIL in 1983…lyrics by bimla khetan, indivar n noor ahmed noor/ total songs 8 – gori gori o gore jalim – m.kapoor/ kya ye mumkin hai – m.k., pushpa pagdhare/ piya tera pyar mai to – p.p./ hare krishna – m.k., p.p./ seene me agar dil hai – m.k./ sone me sugandh milayi gayi – m.k., p.p./ kaisi ye taaron bhari – p.p./ mere pyar ka faisla – m.k….murti sahab i’ll definitely try to learn hw to load the songs…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 18, 2007 @ 8:23 pm | Reply

  496. u r right niloferji…indian classical music is the soul of melody…50’s n 60’s is called the ‘golden era of film music’ only bkoz IC was the base of almost all the songs born during that period…as far as jaidevji is concerned i personally feel that he preferred folk than IC…(nadi naare na jao shyaam/ tu chanda mai chandni/ ye neer kahan se barse/ peetal ki mori gaagri n so on…though in alaap he used IC)…same with naushad sahab…if v c will find he also used north indian folk more than ic…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 18, 2007 @ 10:09 pm | Reply

  497. Thank you very much Shishirji for the information. Do you have any information on the following films of OPN ji which were never released ?

    1. Shakshiyat
    2. Subhanallah
    3. Dil tere hawale

    with regards,

    G N Murty , Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — June 19, 2007 @ 10:16 am | Reply

  498. raaton ko chori chori…. bole mera

    Will there be a composition like this anymore?

    The soft music and the way OPN tuned in Asha’s voice, esp the Bhojpuri word ” Manva ke Bate” makes one say ” Thohar Man kyo patthar sa hoi gawa, Ashaji”

    Comment by gajanan — June 19, 2007 @ 10:38 am | Reply

  499. ji murty sahab….op’s only 5 films fall under ‘shelved/unreleased’ category…

    1. dil tere hawaale (7 songs/ originally titled
    ‘chaand si mehbooba’/audio not released/prod.jairami reddy)

    2. ek gunaah aur sahi (2 songs/audio not released/prod-dir r.k.nayyar)

    3. jawani ki raat (2 songs/audio not released/prod.s.h.bihari)

    4. jaane mehboob (10 songs n verses/originally titled ‘subhan allah’/audio rlsd by music bank cassettes mfg.co./prod.b.r.patel, dir.shah alam)

    5. muqaddar ki baat (8 songs/audio rlsd by MIL/ prod.bimla khetan, dir.kamal thakur)

    sir, i don’t remember any of his films with the name ‘shakhsiyat’…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 19, 2007 @ 10:41 am | Reply

  500. hi friends…i think this blog is dedicated to mr.o.p.nayyar…though i don’t know much about mr.nayyar yet whatever i have is just little knowledge about his music…mr.nayyar is known as a music composer NOT what he was as a family man…i believe his music has given solace to crores of people in world, we, you and his family will not live forever but his ‘creations’ will remain immortal…so let’s appreciate his work which will keep on giving solace to coming generations…so far his weaknesses are concerned we all know that all human beings have some or the other weakness…but some of them work for the betterment of the society through their respective medium like mr.nayyar did with his music…

    Comment by ajay rohilla — June 19, 2007 @ 10:56 am | Reply

  501. murty sahab…op has only 5 ‘unreleased’ films in his account n they r –

    1. dil tere hawale/ originally named-chaand si mehbooba / 7 songs / prod. jairami reddy / audio – not rlsd

    2. ek gunah aur sahi/ 2 songs/ prod.dir. r.k.nayyar/ audio – not rlsd

    3. jawaani ki raat/ 2 songs/ prod. s.h.bihari/ audio – not rlsd

    4. jaane mehboob/ originally named-subhan allah/ 10 songs n verses/ prod. b.r.patel dir.shah alam/ audio by music bank cassettes mfg.co.

    5. muqaddar ki baat/ 8 songs/ prod. bimla khetan dir. kamal thakur/ audio by MIL

    sir, sorry to say, i don’t remember any of his films with the name ‘shakhsiyat’…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 19, 2007 @ 11:17 am | Reply

  502. chaand raaton ko nikle na nikle,
    din me sooraj na chmake to kya hai,

    apne chhote se ghar me ujala ab sada ke liye ho gaya hai……………………………..

    har ghadi har samy muskurata hua phool sa bachpana meri baahon me ho,

    laal mera bada hoke jaaye jahan kaamyaabi sada iski rahon me ho,

    door hardam rahein gham ke ssaye ye hamesha hi meri dua hai…. (film ‘aisa bhi hota hai’)

    ….kaash ke asal zindagi me bhi aisa ho paata gajananji (kshamayaachna sahit)…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 19, 2007 @ 12:17 pm | Reply

  503. Once again thank you Shishir Ji for the information. OPji has signed two more telugu films 1. Premayatra and 2. Andala putallo bhagyanagaram in early 90s. Mr R V Ramanamurthy was the producer for both the films. Do you have any idea ?

    regards,

    G N Murty , Rajahamundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — June 19, 2007 @ 1:37 pm | Reply

  504. As informed by Shishirji , OP ji’s some films were never released and total songs from these unreleased films would be around 20. Millions of OP fans and music lovers are deprived off from listening to some of his immortal tunes. If some producer / director like Yash Chopra , BR Chopra or anyone from new generation could come forward and utilise these songs in any of their new films the way Mr Yash Chopra did in 2004 by using Late Madan Mohan’s tunes in his film “Veer-Jaara”. It would definitely be a true tribute to the maestro.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — June 19, 2007 @ 1:55 pm | Reply

  505. no sir…he might hv just signed these films but i don’t think would hv recorded a single song for these…had he recorded, must hv come on record….i remember, when i met him in mussoorie in 1988, he had come directly from hyderabad after recording neerajanam’s songs n at that time he had told me that film’s name was yet to be finalised n i think the other name he told was premyatra…it means neerajanam n premyatra is same….

    with regards

    shishir krishna sharma

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 19, 2007 @ 2:36 pm | Reply

  506. chand raton ko nilkle na nikle
    din me sooraj na chamke to kya hai

    apne chhote se ghar me ujaala
    ab sada ke liye ho gaya hai……..

    har ghadi har samay muskurata hua
    phool sa bachpana meri baahon me ho

    laal mera bada hoke jaye jahan
    kaamyaabi sada uski raahon me ho

    door har dam rahein gham ke saaye
    ye hamesha hi meri dua hai

    apne chhote………
    (film – aisa bhi hota hai)

    kaash ke yahan asal zindagi me bhi aisa ho pata gajanan sahab…..raha aapke sawaal ka jawaab to matlabparasti ki buniyaad par tikey huye rishton ka to hashra hi ye hota hai….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 19, 2007 @ 5:34 pm | Reply

  507. My choice of “ten bests of Nayyar”. It is really very difficult to chose only ten. They keep on changing with your mood and, how recently you heard it etc.
    1. leke pehla pehla pyar-C.I.D.
    2.Babuji dhire chalna-Aarpaar
    3.Udhar tum haseen ho-Mr.Mrs.
    4. Kajra mohobbat
    5.Jhuka jhuka hai-Mukhesh-Geeetha-Miss coca cola
    6.Haath aaya hain
    7.Bahut shukriya- Ek musafir
    8. Antam phantam-Hum sub chor hain
    9. Badi mushkilse-humsaaya
    10. Tumhara chanewala-Kahi din kahin raat.
    I myself feel the above list is absaolutely inadequate to do just justice to “Sangeetka jaadugar”. so many others seem to be shouting in my ears “what about me. how canyou leave me, having liked me so much in your your youth?” no, we must have a longer list to accomodate at least 50 I think.

    Comment by cumrao — June 19, 2007 @ 7:17 pm | Reply

  508. Arunji,
    you are right about OP’s selection. I too was surprised. Even at the Filmfare award function for Naya Daur, it was Sarpar topi, that was played.
    The only glimpse into his mind i can think of is that he had an admiration for Naushad, and perhaps he was proud that he could compose a song similar to that of so many Naushad-Rafi greats.
    He did express admiration at various times to SDB and Naushad.

    Comment by cumrao — June 19, 2007 @ 7:29 pm | Reply

  509. raaton ko chori cori…a beautitful, soothing well written n well composed song….but here is another….

    chaand raaton ko nikle na nikle
    din me sooraj na chmke to kya hai

    apne chhote se ghar me ujala
    ab sada ke liye ho gaya hai………..

    har ghadi har samay, muskurata hua,
    phool se bachpana meri baahon me ho

    laal mera bada, hoke jaaye jahan,
    kaamyabi sada iski raahon me ho

    door hardam rahein gham ke saaye
    ye hamesha hi meri dua hai

    apne chhote se……
    (film – aisa bhi hota hai/1971)

    …..kaash ke asal zindagi me bhi aisa hota gajananji…raha aapke sawaal ka jawaab to matlab aur mauqaparasti ki buniyaad par tikey rishton ka hashra to hota hi ye hai….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 19, 2007 @ 9:36 pm | Reply

  510. i sent a post today around 11.30 am…resent the same in the afternoon…as there was a minor problem with the net today again sent the same at 9.45 pm after the problem was rectified… i’m surprised none of the three has come on blog yet….is it true that the posts can be censored?

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 19, 2007 @ 10:07 pm | Reply

  511. raaton ko chori chori…no doubt beautifully written…beautifully composed…so soothing…one of nayyar sahab’s best songs…n here is another one…

    chaand raton ko nikle na nikle, din me sooraj na chamke to kya hai/apne chhote se ghar me ujaala, ab sada ke liye ho gaya hai….har ghadi har samay, muskurata hua, phool sa bachpana meri baahon me ho/laal mera bada, hoke jaaye jahan, kaamyabi sada uski raahon me ho/door hardam rahein gham ke saaye, ye hamesha hi meri dua hai/ apne chhote se…
    (film-aisa bhi hota hai/1971)
    kaash ke asal zindagi me bhi aisa hota gajananji…raha aapke sawaal(#498)ka jawaab to matlab aur mauqaparasti ki buniyaad par tikey rishton ka hashra yahi hota hai…remember RDB’s career shot up after ‘hare rama hare krishna(1971)………(#506/this is my 4th attempt)

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 20, 2007 @ 10:31 am | Reply

  512. Shishir ji, there is no censorship on the blog. Sometimes a delay occurs through WordPress servers , at other times a comment accidentally goes in to the spam category, as yours may have gone presumably. I found two, and have published it. Are there any more? Please let me know. Incidentally there have 13,891 spam commments caught here.. so you can imagine a glitch can occur sometimes. Thanks for bringing it to my knowledge.

    ‘Chaand raaton ko nikle na nikle ‘ is the song i used to sing often to my little boy when he was a toddler. One doesnt know what is more admirable the lyrics or the tune.. each complimented the other so wonderfully.

    What could we as a race have done without soulful lyrics and music, which as if interpret our life and its defining moments with supreme creativity!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 20, 2007 @ 1:08 pm | Reply

  513. Could Mr. SK Sharma or Mr. Siraj Khan, who had a great personal acquaintance with OPN, put some light on his opinion about other contemporary music directors and singers. Did he ever make any comment on the talent of any of the new generation MDs either?

    Comment by Abed — June 20, 2007 @ 1:35 pm | Reply

  514. abed ji…with time, nayyar sahab’s compositions and rafi n asha’s voices had become supplements to each other…for a few years in late 60’s he didn’t use rafi’s voice due to some reasons…had he not avoided rafi, m.kapoor could never get a chance to sing under his baton (accrdg to M.K., first song recorded by OPN with him was ‘mera pyar wo hai’/film-ye raat phir na ayegi)…still opn retained his position…but as sn as he departed from asha, his downfall started…rafi’s last release with opn were ‘bin maa ke bachche’ n ‘heera moti’ (both 1979)…after rafi’s death he tried s.p.balasubrahmanyam, amit kumar, talat aziz, shabbir kumar, pushpa pagdhare, vani jayram, dilraj kaur, kavita krishnamoorti, anuradha paudwal, s.janaki n uttara kelkar in his forthcoming films but these voices failed to fill the void…n the reason is, he could not change ‘the nayyar style’ which, asha n rafi suited most. in fact using these new voices was his ‘majboori’ though i personally feel, looking at voice-quality, breath control n ‘gale ki harkatein’, only dilraj kaur was able to take asha’s place but nayyar sahab didn’t repeat her after heera moti (better to say, she was not ready to work with nayyar sahab again)…nayyar sahab was so frustrated with this new lot of singers that once he called one of them ‘band-baaje waala’ as informed by one of my friends who was the chief asstt. dir. in that film…
    so far other music dir. are concerned, he was an admirer of new theatre’s MD’s most…n contemporary MD’s, we never talked on this issue…but i wud like to underline here, nayyar sahab’s quality was that he never said a single negative word for anybody, be it lata or asha or his rival MD’s…(though i’v cm to know that the song ‘teen kanastar peet peet kar gala phaad kar chillaana’/love marriage was specially made as a satire on nayyar sahab)

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 20, 2007 @ 3:37 pm | Reply

  515. Dilraj kaur it seemed as if moulded her voice to mimic asha and therefore please op nayyar or maybe that he found in it the similarity to Ashas enough that he could suit his composition. But the ease with which asha flowed in the song was not how dilraj did it. Tho she was a very talented singer. I wonder why she did not get acclaim. She deserved it. She was better than a lot at her time. certainly better than suman kalyanpur and usha mangeshkar and sharda etc. Why did other composers not use her? I think at the time that she came it was the reign of Mangeshkar sisters and nobody else was allowed to come up. A lot many may have seen their downfall for the very reason ..like Vani jayaram, peenaz masani, etc..

    Comment by Krishnan — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm | Reply

  516. Thanks a lot Shishir ji for responsing to my request.

    Thanks a lot lot more for sharing with us the invaluable memory and knowledge you have not only about OPN’s career but also about the entire film industry.

    Wish you all the best.

    Comment by Abed — June 20, 2007 @ 3:54 pm | Reply

  517. Shishir ji,

    Nayyar Saab’s association with SP Balasubramanyam was clicked as each song from film “Neerajanam” became huge hit and both SPB and OPN were awarded state govt. “Nandi” award for the songs.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — June 20, 2007 @ 5:33 pm | Reply

  518. Appreciation of raatonko chori chori, reminds me of “oh Raat rangeeli” of Baap re baap. we felt at that time that it was not in the usual OPN’s fast paced stile.
    Shishirji, you have amazing knowledge abt Hindi music in general and OPN in particular.
    Pl enlighten me on one or two pts.
    1. The song “Dar laage dard badariya………mohe chod gaye sanwariya”, was, I think, by Asha and sounds so much like OPN’s, composed and sung with elan. But from which film? Is it really Nayyar’s?. Surely, OPN has one or two songs like that in the same raaga.
    2. The song “Hum aur tum aur yeh khushi” by Surendra and Zohrabai from Alibaba chalis chor. Is it he same film as the one with chitragupta and S.N.Tripathi as MDs?. which has also a song by Talat and lata “Ai sabaa unse keh jaraa”. Remade in Telugu and Tamil the tunes (directly copied from the Hindi version) were resounding hits in those days.

    Comment by cumrao — June 20, 2007 @ 7:16 pm | Reply

  519. CumraoJi, Thank you so much for posting of the song, Zara Saamne Aa from BAAZ. It is a typical OP number and I love it.

    Comment by Ashraft — June 20, 2007 @ 10:04 pm | Reply

  520. krishnan ji, i agree dilraj kaur stands nowhere so far asha is concerned…but after ‘pran jaye…’ nayyar sahab had no other option nor he was ready to change his style n in such circumstances dilraj comparatively suited his music most, that’s what i feel. (gareebon ke amitabh ‘mithun’ ki tarah dilraj cud bcm gareebon ki asha)…so far other singers (may be extremely talented) r concerned none of them suited nayyar style but opn’s ‘majboori’! people often compare geeta n asha…but i find a little ‘depression n dejection’ in geeta’s voice whereas asha’s voice is full of liveliness, romanticism and warmth. secondly i don’t think geeta (or any other singer) cud bring ashalike ‘breath’, ‘hichki’, ‘hansi’ n ‘gale ki harkatein’in ‘gaayki’. hence in my opinion nayyar sahab shud hv used dilraj only…

    murty ji, no doubt spb is extremely talented but my personal opinion is, he can’t take rafi’s place in nayyar’s music, specially in hindi songs n the reason is nayyar sahab cud never get freed himself from rafi’s (n asha’s) influence till end.

    cumrao ji, i don’t remember these two songs but ‘dar laage’ is definitely NOT nayyar’s as i’v gone thru his filmography thoroughly n no such song is mentioned in it…as per my record there were two ‘alibaba & 40 thieves’ (1932/madan theatres n 1966/basant pix) n two ‘alibaba aur 40 chor’ (1954/basant pix n 1980/eagle films)…last recorded song by zohrabai was ‘le lo le lo do phool (with rafi n shamshad) in kardar’s ‘jadoo’ (1951) accrdg to her daughter, renowned kathak dancer roshan kumari. hence if ‘hum aur tum’ is from ‘alibaba aur 40 chor’ then it shud be from the film rlsd in 1954 with music by chitragupt n s.n.tripathi. may be this song was recorded earlier. as per my knowledge, surendranath was also active till late 40’s only…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 20, 2007 @ 10:16 pm | Reply

  521. Yes yes Shishir ji, that is what I meant. Dilraj kaur could have easily become garibon ki asha by why did it not happen? She was hardly signed by other producers. The mast, harkatein and hichki, and aahen were all there. Suman Kalyanpur was garibon ki Lata and received good many songs. The other example who made it despite the two sisters dadagiri was Anuradha Paudwal. That maybe because her husband was the arranger of latas concerts and also close to her so he may have asked for her blessings. After that Gulshan Kumar story everyone knows. She became so powerful there for a few years till he was alive.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 21, 2007 @ 1:53 pm | Reply

  522. I was never a great fan of Suman Kalyanpus voice. I found her nasal. Maybe im wrong. but anuradha paudwal was a better singer. Yes she was cleverer than the others so got her way and even got her daughter to become a singer. I think these days talent is important but P.R. is more important.and also to have a Godfather, whether you are an actor or singer.

    Comment by niloufer — June 21, 2007 @ 5:47 pm | Reply

  523. The scheduled date of re-release of “NAYA DAUR” in colour was 22nd June 07. Is anybody having any idea ?

    G N Murty , Rajahamundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — June 21, 2007 @ 5:58 pm | Reply

  524. Thank you Shishirji,
    I regret that Darlaage is not Nayyar’s. It is so pleasing, crisply and effortlessly sung. The tunes for the antaras were definitely adapted from Nayyar.
    The two songs I mentioned as from Alibaba chalis chor must be from two different versions. The song by Surendra and Zohrabi must belong to the older version and the song ai sabaa unse keha zaraa by Talat and Lata must be from The later version, from what you have written. This song is really a great sweet duet.

    Comment by cumrao — June 21, 2007 @ 8:11 pm | Reply

  525. krishnanji, there is basic difference in ‘two sister’s’ nature…asha is quite extrovert n till today, she is ready to sing for any MD n with any singer (see how she is singing with non singers in ‘asha n friends’). she never dicriminated between MD’s or banners or singers…singing, in any circumstances, was her mission. we hardly find any example if she had a fight with anybody on proffessional reasons. since ‘original’ asha was available, why to take ‘duplicate’ one. this was the reason why dilraj cud not get her share…on the other hand, latabai’s nature is mashaallah. she always preferred big names n then fought with them, be it CR or RK or rafi or shankarji or kalyanji etc. etc. thus opening way for ‘duplicates’. n when saw the ‘sinhasan’ shaking, again reconciled. accrdg to late snehal bhatkar sahab, ‘kabhi tanhaiyon me yun’ was in fact to be sung by lata. evrybdy was present in the recording room but there was no trace of her’s…when enquired, smbdy informed kidar sharmaji, she is busy recording for a rajkamal film…hurt, sharmaji immediately called mubaraq begum (n the truth is, had lata sung this song, this wud have been just one of the best songs sung by her but in mabaraq’s unique voice, this has becm one of the best songs ever made, that’s wat i feel)… similarly hw many songs did lata sing for BR? or for RAJSHRI? in mid 60’s, v hardly find any of her duets with rafi (bkoz of the big fight). n see, MD’s n producers had no choice for rafi but thr wr many for lata…(ajahu na aaye baalma / thahariye hosh me aa lun / aha ayee milan ki bela/lata style ‘saawan aaye ya na aaye n so on)…n see, lata’s ‘home’, the RK films got it’s first FF award of best music for ‘mera naam joker’ with no ‘lata’ song (kyonki un dinon ka daur shankarji se yuddh ka tha). still i appreciate, she always kept her self- respect maintained, is a great singer with a perfect ‘gaayki’ n keeps great knwldg of indian classical n folk…

    murtyji, i hvn’t hrd if the color vrsn is going to b rlsd on 22nd n rlsng a film wthout publicity is a grt risk…

    cumraoji, ‘ai saba’ is not from the second version (made in 1980) with RD’s music wch had 5 songs – aja sare bazaar tera pyaar (lata)/ dil me jo baat hai (lata)/ khatooba khatooba (asha)/ jadugar jadu kar jayega (asha, kishore)/ saare shahar me ek haseen hai (asha, lata)…this may be from second version of alibaba & 40 thieves (1966) with usha khanna’s music n not from ‘alibaba aur 40 chor’…pl confirm…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 22, 2007 @ 8:52 am | Reply

  526. Shishir ji Thanks for the valid response. I think fees or payment should be a factor also…latas fees and suman Kalyanpurs will differ, that is why ‘poor mans’ term took force.. also asha bais fees and dilrajs would differ. I feel afraid of boycott by these two sisters a lot of talent in the earlier years had to die an unsung death.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 22, 2007 @ 10:58 am | Reply

  527. Mr. curao,

    your choice (OP’S ten best) shows that you have imbibed the music of OP Nayyar. Still i’ll like to add few :

    Raaton ko chori-chori; Baahon ko jara lehara de; Aao huzoor tumko; Ye hai raishmi zulfon ka andhera; Huzoore waala; Jaaiye aap kahan jaaigein; Sar per topi laal gaal pe or aain hain door se from the same film; Pukaarta chala hoon mein; Mein jaan gayee tujhe saiyyan (as vinod rightly said), Door bahut mat jaaiye lekar karaar hamaara;and i’ll include most of the songs of cid, naya daur, ek musaafir ek haseena. List became too long but in no way you can curtail it. One song i specially like to mention here is from ‘Basant’….O Madam Nancy you are my fancy which is worth hearing for it’s unique composition.

    Comment by arun bajaj — June 22, 2007 @ 11:10 am | Reply

  528. I had heard of the coloured print being released by Ravi chopra himself who said it would be on 22nd June. Murthy ji is right. But nothing has happened so far.

    About my favorites, I prefer Op jis romantic melodies to his fun filled ones. I think his soul comes through in songs like raaton ko chori chori or Ek musafir, or saawan ki ghata’ kashmir ki kali.

    Comment by niloufer — June 23, 2007 @ 10:34 am | Reply

  529. Arunji,
    As I said, I was not satisfied with the list I posted, simply because I could not include the songs like those you mentioned and many more. It is just impossible to restrict to 10.
    I am particularly happy to note that you included Baahonko jara lehraade, as you are the first person, besides I who mentioned it. It is a strange composition, wheree Manna dey sung melodiously, and Asha exuberantly. The music too. Not OPN’s usual stile.
    But, I do not know the song “Door bahut jaaiye”. From which film?

    Comment by cumrao — June 23, 2007 @ 6:34 pm | Reply

  530. OPNayyar was one of the greatest musical genius and any amount of shraddhanjali to him will be less. To keep his legacy alive i propose we organise a nite in January at Delhi. The troupe of Indranil Mukherjee can be asked to do the musical evening. Last year i had organised a S D Burman nite at Delhi which was a great hit. Lets all join our hands together to make it a success.

    Sangeeta Saxena
    e-mail sangeetasaxena2001@yahoo.co.uk
    ph.Delhi 011-9810633540

    Comment by Sangeeta Saxena — June 23, 2007 @ 6:53 pm | Reply

  531. Shishirji,
    Your post 495:
    For those of us who lap up everything composed by OPN, your having the songs of Muqaddarki baat in LP is Good news.
    I can guide you in digitizing and loading the songs to your PC and then upload them to Sachniti.
    First part is to digitize them. A simple but not of high quality way is:
    First thing is to have suitable software to do it. Music match Juke box is one of them. If you dont have it already, you can download the basic version free. I think you know that you can plug-in a mike to your PC, Check sound adjustments, be sure that “Mic in” is not turned off.
    You have to chose various options in Music match juke box under
    options/recorder. Play your LP and keep the mike in front of the loud speaker. With appropriate options selected, any sound going into the mike will be converted to mp3 and stored in your PC.
    Unless your LP player has a slot for cable transmission of sound this is the only way, as far as I know.

    Comment by cumrao — June 23, 2007 @ 7:01 pm | Reply

  532. Shishirji,
    about Ai saba, I am sure it is from The film of early 50s. Whether it is alibaba 40 thieves or alibaba chalis chor I am not sure. It was a Mahipal-Shakila starrer. I have this song and its very hauntingly melodious, one of the best by Talat_Lata combination. As far As I can remember, It came soon after Aarpaar. Most probably, Shakila’s first as heroine. The film has songs in Gevacolor though the rest of the film was B/W. Sorry for the confusion.
    Your post in 452, about the song ‘tere hum ho sanam”, though I too have the song in my PC with no info on the film or lyricist, the singers were Rafi_Suman Kalyanpur, as per the tag I have. It is also a wonderful duet. I have a vague memory that it may be from Teerandaz, but I may be wrong.

    Comment by cumrao — June 23, 2007 @ 7:25 pm | Reply

  533. I like old hindi film songs but I do not have much knowledge of it. I often go through this site and find it very interesting and also get good knowledge of hindi songs from it. I know , not personally, there is one actor whose name is Shishir Sharma who has acted in the hit serial shaka laka boom boom on star plus in the role of principal. These days he is acting in DoorDarshan afternoon daily serial Nargis in the role of Mehfooz, Nargis’ nanaji. I want to know if Mr. Shishir Krishna Sharma who is very active in this site has any connection with this actor Shishir Sharma?

    Comment by Ramavtar Agrawal — June 23, 2007 @ 8:11 pm | Reply

  534. Ramavtar ji,

    Through e mails exchanged between Shishir ji and me,he informed me of this as well. Yes, Shishir ji is the same actor you refer to. He is indeed multi talented!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 23, 2007 @ 9:26 pm | Reply

  535. Dear friends,

    Its past midnight and way past my bedtime ordinarily. However, a piece of news I read today, disturbed me emotionally. Thought I’d share it with all of you, my Sachiniti family.

    We do know that the brilliant lyricist Sahir Ludhianvi had passed away a while ago. Apparently, he left behind no family or close relatives. He was un married and lived alone. Cine Blitz a magazine reported that his belongings were being recently shifted out from his flat and being sold to the ‘raddiwala’.. among them were his journals, of his poems and ‘sarmaya ‘ of his life…orphaned and forlorn..lost to posterity and at the mercy of unmoved mercenaries. Is that the sum total of our life?

    One cannot but remember his lyrics which have stayed with me

    ‘aurat ne janam diya mardon ko
    mardon ne unhe bazaar diya
    jab ji chaha machla kuchla
    jab ji chaha dutkaar diya”

    or

    CHALO EK BAAR PHIR SE AJNABI BAN JAAYE HUM DONO…

    TAARUF ROG BAN JAYE TO US KO BHOOLNA BEHTAR
    TALLUQ BOJH BAN JAYE TO US KO TODNA ACCHA
    WOH AFSANA JISE ANJAAM TAK LANA NA HO MUMKIN
    USE EK KHOOBSURAT MOD DE KAR CHODNA ACCHA”

    Zindagi kya itni bewafaa ho sakti hai? But somewhere rests the niggling idea that a single thought of a human, as if creates ripples in the universe.. it can never get lost or go to ruin. It is there in our minds and hearts.. his words.. My father was a great admirer of his lyrics and often told me that if there is one lyricist in the industry who is ‘literary’ and not filmi it is Sahir. Therefore the news today for me was doubly disturbing. It would have saddened my father tremendously.

    Ghalibs shair comes to mind..

    “Chand tasweer-e-butaN, chand hasinoN ke khutut – Baad marne ke mere, ghar se yeh samaN nikle!”

    I wonder what Sahir had prophecied for himself!

    All one can aver is ..May his soul rest in peace! May he be content in the knowledge that he is loved and admired, respected and remembered.

    Regards to all!

    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 24, 2007 @ 12:29 am | Reply

  536. this is the wiki link to information on Sahir Ludhianvi

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahir_Ludhianvi

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 24, 2007 @ 12:42 am | Reply

  537. Kaveetaa ji,It is really sad this news. Why could not he have made a will in his lifetime as to his possessions? He lived alone and yet composed such heartrending poetry..so filled with wisdom.
    his songs’aage bhi jaane na tu, peechche bhi jaane na tu, jo bhi hai bas yehi ek pal hai’ is wonderful and so is ‘ allah tero naam, ishwar tero naam’..so many there are which show his talent.And there my have been so many more given to the raddiwala..Which issue was it? the latest?

    Comment by niloufer — June 24, 2007 @ 12:43 pm | Reply

  538. Niloufer, It is the latest I guess. I am not an avid reader of film mags.It happened to be within arms reach at the Doctors, so glanced through it while in wait. It has Ash on the cover and is a write up from the editor, where she too has expressed shock and grief at the incident.

    List is endless of Sahirs songs

    “jaane kya tune kahi, jaane kya maine kahi baat kuch ban hi gayee’

    or

    dukhi man mere sun mera kehna jahaan nahin chaina wahan nahin rehna

    this a nazm I love:

    Aao ke koyi khwaab bunen kal ke vaaste
    Varnaa ye raat aaj ke sangeen daur ki
    Das legi jaan-o-dil ko aise ke jaan-o-dil
    Taa-umr phir na koyi haseen khwaab bun sake.

    Gau hum se bhaagtee rahi hai tez-gaam umr
    Khwaabon ke aasre pe katee hai tamaam umr
    Ye khwaab hi to apnee jawaanee ke paas the
    Ye khwaab hi to apne amal ki asaas the

    Aao ke koyi khwaab buneN, kal ke vaaste !

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 24, 2007 @ 2:01 pm | Reply

  539. I have added the video of ‘Aurat ne janam diya mardon ko” to the vodpod as a tribute to Sahir Saheb.

    You will notice that the picturisation was simple.The lyrics were so potent that no embellishments were needed either musically or cinematically for the message to come through. Truly an example of sheer power of words reaching the innermost core of ones soul..

    Kahaan gaye woh log!!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 24, 2007 @ 2:50 pm | Reply

  540. Kaveetaa ji,

    First of all thanks for posting the song ‘aurat ne janam diya mrdon ko’..I have been wanting to listen to it for some time now and so has my wife. It is a coincidence that just a few days back we were talking of it and today i see it here. About Sahir ji, its tragic the things sometimes even the most gifted have to face. When he wrote ‘yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye to kya hai’ you believe that he also believed in it strongly. Even today we recognise those lyrics and thoughts, they are timeless.

    Regards
    Krishnan

    Comment by Krishnan — June 24, 2007 @ 4:02 pm | Reply

  541. The news is really disturbing. I am really shocked to hear this unmindful act of maharashtra govt.(otherwise who could have ordered this shameful act?).Sahir is an inspiration to many whose distinct style prompted us to write like him but there could only be one Sahir…..

    ” na muh chhupa ke jiye, na sar jhuka ke jiye
    sitamgiron ki nazar se nazar mila ke jiye
    ab ek raat kam jiye ,to kam hi sahi
    yehi bahut hai ki hum mashaalen jala ke jiye”

    Lines are simple, sraight and direct and still forceful enough to change one’s destiny.
    Poets, writers, painters,musicians are the pillars of any civilised society….”Inki jalaaye hui mashaalon se aage ki peedhi ko raasta milta hai”.
    You have to bleed for a work of art. It is not like erecting a building. Poetry is, in reality, the sacrifice of the self….it is a deep dive. It only happens when the body, mind and spirit are in the tune with each other. Ask these mindless politicians how many Sahir’s our great nation has produced uptill now? What India has produced in abandon is VP Singh’s and Arjun Singh’s, Mulayam Singh’s and Amar Singh’s, Lalu Prasad’s and Rabri Devi’s, Advaanis’s and Togadia’s…..only garbage in the name of politicians. In the name of democracy we have surrendered our lives to a nameless bureaucracy and uneducated politicians. Art is dyeing in India. Artists are dyeing unsung. All you will be left with, is a rich souless city for builders and corrupt politicians sitting on bags of cash.
    I know what Sahir must be thinking in his grave after this mindless act:

    “Aabaadiyon mein dasht ka manjar bhi hoga
    Guzaronge shaher se to mera ghar bhi hoga”.

    Comment by arun bajaj — June 24, 2007 @ 5:14 pm | Reply

  542. Well said Arun ji.

    While the apathy and disinterestedness by officiandos is something we Indians have immunised ourselves against much to the consternation of every right thinking world citizen, what is even more appalling is the uncaring attitude of Bollywood over the matter. Sahir was someone who deserved to be eulogised and his possessions carefully preserved as a legacy. Perhaps industrywallahs are ignoring the fact that to morrow it might be their turn. In a world where success is the only criteria for respect and adulation, sentiments of the kind hold little or no value in their scheme of things.

    And then they plaintively lament over lack of creativity and soul in lyricists today! As if they have accorded the respect to those who have expressed the truths of life so admirably, coloured with the angst in their soul!! Shame!

    It makes you lose faith in human beings on one hand and in the business of living if all finally comes to nought.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 24, 2007 @ 6:20 pm | Reply

  543. my post no. 541… please read abundance in place of abandon.

    i am very much touched by your gesture Kaveetaji , the soft corner you have for these legendary personalities who are born once in centuries. i was very much disturbed after reading your post, still i am. again i want to quote Sahir’

    “Hum aman chahate hain magar zulm ke khilaf
    gar zung lazmi hai to phir zung hi sahi

    zaalim ko jo na roke wo shaamil hai zulm mein”
    kaatil ko jo na toke wo kaatil ke saath hai
    hum sarbakaf utthe hain ki haq fatahyaab ho
    keh do use jo lashkare-baatil ke saath hai

    is dhang per hai zor to yeh dhang hi sahi”

    Comment by arun bajaj — June 24, 2007 @ 7:24 pm | Reply

  544. Kaveetaji,
    You expressed very well the weight-age and value given to real talent by the present day world.
    Success, however transitory it is, by whatsoever means it is achieved, is the sole yardstick, by which a person’s worth is measured.

    Comment by cumrao — June 24, 2007 @ 8:06 pm | Reply

  545. Reading the last few messages here – some breath-taking some drove me out of breath. #502 Chand Raton ko Nikle na nikle has OP’s unmistakable soft rose-petal beat which we have seen in Jayye aap kahan jayenge, haath aya hai jab se tera and a score of others. And am linking this with the more recent entries (disturbing would be under-statement)on Sahir through a common link link of Urdu poetry, in which OPN excelled. I think one of Bollywood’s most under-rated poets/lyricists was Shamsul Huda Bihari. SH Bihari has written more lyrics in OPN films than any other poet and yet people (even Biharis)know so little about this great man. Despite the visibility OPN gave to SHB he never got the recognition he truly deserved. There is a story that he wrote songs for an entire film by staying awake one night. For the benefit of those who may not be aware, please allow me to share with you a dedication he once wrote for OPN (fil badi – on the spot) when they had both had a couple of drinks and were in high spirits

    Teri zindagi mohabbat
    Tera naam hai deewana

    Tere baad bhee karega
    Tera zikr yeh zamana

    Tu woh zindagi naheen hai
    Jisse maut khatm karde

    Jisse bhool jaye dunya
    Tu naheen hai woh tarana

    One of the few awful aspects of the Indian culture is that we start to recognize people when its too late. Never in their life-time. This story is repeated again and again and in doing so we miss the bus and then just grapple with fond memories like repairing expensive chinaware.

    Back to OP Nayyar. One of the greatest service we can do for him is to publicize his rare and relatively little heard gems (e.g I often refer to Asha’s songs from the period earlier than Naya Daur as purana daur).

    I have some other ideas that I would like to share with you. They are still in the melting pot. I really feel that we must take our realtionship to the next level – beyond the armchair discussion, commenting and comparing. More towards action – what tangibles can we bring to the table to keep the torch lit for the legendary OP NAYYAR who has contributed so much towards the happiness in our lives – so lovingly and yet so unknowingly.

    Siraj Khan
    Boston, USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 24, 2007 @ 8:06 pm | Reply

  546. Arun ji,
    Thanks for your sensitive words. They have indeed captured the spirit of my being. If we leave the world unfeeling of our surroundings or unfazed by a wrong then I fear that our having been graced with a human souls is at best perfunctory. Human suffering is a phenomenon we have to forbear but not necessarily forego emotionally. For me, the loss of human talent and creativity has always been poignant. Nothing hurts more than denigration of an artists life .. such as has happened with sahir ji, hence the outburst. I loved the lines you have quoted..Its true very true even of my writings on Sachiniti.. yeh jung to ab jaari hai.. jeetna ya haarna hamara junoon nahin..

    Cumraoji,

    No matter the transcience of life or the ephemeral nature of our existence, but living on the fringes of what life has to offer would be a shame. Those of feeble heart and shallow soul only I think would liken worldly success with progress of the human spirit. Mostly its an impediment to growth. No wonder then that a mans possessions are evaluated by monetary benefits instead of its intrinsic worth.. which is priceless. Its tragic that sahirs thoughts arisen from the core of his inherent nature were thus dismissed on the weighing scale of material squalor. But we as thinking, mature, alive spirits can condemn if have not been successful in retrieving the loss. if we fail to do even that then our core ought to be questioned as well.. Thanks.

    Siraj Ji,

    The written word is considered the most lasting and tangible on the web. when I wrote this post last year as an emotional reaction to what I read of OP ji on the article linked above, I had no charted path where it would lead to.

    I believe we cannot/ should not be controllers of the destiny of any creative pursuit, especially when it involves such large numbers of sensitive and sensible souls. The energy partaken in the endeavour creates a path of its own accord, organically. That is how this post has grown and how I would like it to progress. It should respond to the thoughts of the contributors open heartedly, guilelessly.Whatever the course, whichever the stream, the rivulet finds its ocean. Let us blend along, swim in its ecstasy and drown in its ripples, without permitting an interference with the constrictions of our mind. After all how does and can one assume the propriety of ones decisions.

    We are not doers.. but witnessers.. the earlier we realise this the better for all mankind.

    Humbly and with warm regards

    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 24, 2007 @ 11:11 pm | Reply

  547. Dear Kaveetaa

    I hope that you read my post in the spirit that it was written. You do realize, I am sure, that I am enjoying the swim as much as anybody else who has taken the dive, if not more. And this will continue, of that I am confident. However, I do have a reservation on your last line. Can we not be dooers in addition to being witnessers? Is there something stopping us? When you embarked upon unchatered territory, you unknowingly perhaps, became a dooer. Other dooers have actually formed an OP Nayyar Foundation, to assist struggling musicians. Some dooers have posted his songs clipping right here. We may have “in-house capability” to set up a OP Nayyar web-site (eg Asha Bhosle, Nadeem-Shravan, Talat Mahmood etc. sites are going great guns). Some methodology to give greater visibility and exposure to lesser heard songs is another area where we could all look at. It would be fun and I cannot quite comprehend why you would want all of us on your karvaan to be labelled as witnessers when in addition we could also be dooers.

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 24, 2007 @ 11:42 pm | Reply

  548. Dear Siraj Ji,

    I have not been able to fathom the objection to my words which I confess were to be imbibed philosophically rather than literally. Perhaps I needed to express the Advaita dictum detailedly, which I took for granted most of us here were well versed with.

    The ideology of ‘doer’ and ‘witnesser’ had little or in fact nothing to do with ‘doing’ and ‘witnessing’ but more with ‘Nishkama karma’, which was my contention. Perhaps you have misunderstood the thrust. It was used in context of not feeling an egotistical pride of being the ‘driver’ in a creative pursuit, when we maybe following a pre ordained path. And also to do with ‘controlling’ readers thoughts and ideas here. I dont like to do that.. I dont like to tell commenters what they ought to write or not, or how often..so consider it important that we be ‘witnessers’ there.

    To imagine that I would ever want anything but the best for O P ji and his repertoire is indeed minimising my efforts and diluting my intentions. Whatever our capabilities ought to be fructified. That is what I meant .

    It would be immensely pleasurable for me and all of us to see the site grow ‘organically’..perhaps enough consideration was not accorded to my choice of words. But that does not mean that any reference to another talented musician cannot be made on the blog, with deference, which I have oft noticed has been the resistance from you. I was merely expressing my concern on that dimension.

    This space is not mine as much as it is those who come here regularly. Anything and any direction they take is the right direction to go with.. which includes you Siraj ji.. only I wish you would be more active. In the last couple of hundred comments you have made just two…While that is not the problem.. Comments from the other regulars whose feelings and views I cannot ignore. cannot be minimalised.

    To see an active co ordination for any further evolution will be like a dream come true for me. I wish my inner feelings are not misunderstood and a little care was given to the fact that I may have done my best to make this as democratic a space as possible just so that admirers of music and poetry can have a free rein here.

    Comment 275 -286 or so. for almost a fortnight last month I was trying to load an audio player which could include all of Op jis songs. If you had read the comment sections carefully you might have realised that. Unfortunately this server does not allow for players on the site , to prevent adult/ mature content which might be misused by bloggers. But this I got to know after plenty of trials and errors with another friend ‘devilsworkshop’. It was then that I created a separate category on the vodpod itself “O P Nayyars Hits ” where I uploaded all the videos possible on the web and Cumrao ji added quite a few.

    Karma for the sake of karma and a continuous ongoing effort has and always will be my tenet. I work sometimes upto 10 hours a day on this blog. I have given it a lot of my creative energy and time. I am perhaps simply following my calling..not with ego but humility. You are free to post any and every song , old, rarely heard, new, just as you wish.. It has and should be a concerted effort..please take my comment in the right spirit as well.. with patience and not impatience as not to understand the deeper underlying meaning of words.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 25, 2007 @ 12:07 am | Reply

  549. Siraj Bhai,

    Please do not mind . I agree with Kaveetaa ji. We ALL here wish the best for Op Nayyar ji. Please go ahead and post or suggest your suggestions. But I think your tone is a little severe. It is like going to somebodys house and then not being kind. Your last comment here was to tell us of your site and earlier to that of your programme which we requested you for details and then none came. Before that, the earlier comment you scolded somebody here for talking about Shankar jaikishan and other MD’s. Let us all do whatever we can, but let us not tell the other what to do or what not to do. It is not fair. We are ready to listen to your suggestions and will follow them together.
    Kaveeta ji its important you do not feel hurt.. let us not spoil the lovely calm and serene atmosphere of this site. It is like home for me. and a lot of others who have said the same thing here.
    Please forgive me Siraj Bhai and Kaveeta ji if I have spoken out of turn. Let us just move on.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 25, 2007 @ 1:02 am | Reply

  550. Wah Bhai Wah , Dooer, witness, kya Jasbad hai Boston aur Mumbai ke alfaaz me.

    Yes, we must move forward. Kudos to all of you , in this great web site.

    Siraj Khan has rightly aaid that in India we recognise late. The trouble is if you are ready to throw your principles away , like many and in Mumbai lingua , thods zam ke muska lagao tho , you get recognition. They say in good cinema , the camera has to speak and actors act. Same is the case with music . The music has to do the magic and not the hype and muska. This is what made OPN very different from others and he lived with his principles.

    One thing we could do is just play recordings of OPN on a web site , which could be heard and taped. Windows Media Player is there and real player is also there. If someone is doing it, just give the time of the broadcast, webcast, podcast, so that one can tape it or just listen to it. Do it from anywhere in the world, but post the time ( your time) on this site of the webcast. We can then tune in, accordingly and enjoy, record the all time great OPN. Rare good aongs would be top priority.

    Comment by gajanan — June 25, 2007 @ 7:26 am | Reply

  551. In the case of sahir atleast its not true and I do not agree with Siraj Bhai that he got recognition late. He got plenty in his lifetime as well. But we always tend to forget to remember after a person is dead. His memories for very few hold any importance and his possessions or his writings even less unless you are a Van gogh or Ghalib. if today there was a price for Sahirs poetry do you think that it would have been sold to the ‘raddiwala’?

    Comment by Krishnan — June 25, 2007 @ 9:05 am | Reply

  552. Whoever has any ideas on what should be done should go ahead and do it. Doers must do ..so go ahead and do it! Why expect Kaveetaa ji or Cumrao ji to do everything? if Siraj Ji thinks there should be rare songs then he should find them and post them for all of us to hear.Nothing is stopping him. I request Gajanan ji if you know of a way that the media player can be created then please do it. If I knew I would have gladly done it.I dont know so neither do i advise nor suggest. This must be a joint effort where all concerned must make their contribution in whatever way possible. I am willing to help if somebody tells me what should be done. Please make constructive talk backed with action. Lots of things should happen so please make them happen, is what I feel .

    Thanks

    Niloufer

    Comment by niloufer — June 25, 2007 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  553. All is fine friends 🙂
    Gajanan ji I think your suggestion is workable. It may take some time to download each song individually. But I will get on the job asap and hopefully we shall have a real/media player with O P ji’s songs.
    Meanwhile ofcourse, you can click on the vodpod header and go into the O P Nayyars hits category and revel in some soulful melodies.

    Love to all!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 25, 2007 @ 8:43 pm | Reply

  554. Kaveeta

    I’d like to say simply that the dignity and elegance with which you handle the blog is appreciable.Keep it up!!

    Sahir Ludhianvis dispossesion of his earthly possesions is a mirror of the callousness of our times. The more I think of it, it angers me. Surely there must have been a thousand alternatives. But who has the time to care?

    Comment by Jatin Lall — June 25, 2007 @ 11:55 pm | Reply

  555. There many players available in the net. Just go to google and type ” real player” or “Quicktime” and you can download them for period of time free and then I do not know if payment still exists for these players. Windows Media player is available with the Microsoft software. If you have broadband downloading is faster. I understand all will not have broadband facilities. There are some radio stations all over the globe which play Indian film music on Windows Media Player. I hope to contact my friends overseas and request them to play OPN’s hits on weekends for some time. As soon as I get the info from any international radio station, I will post the information on this blog with their local time , date, so that you can adjust yourself the timings.

    About Sahir one can only say ” Waqt ne Kiya , Kya Haseen Sitam, Hum rahe ne hum……..

    This is blog dedicated to Sahir L. Good site still growing
    http://www.sahirludhianvi.com/blog/

    Comment by gajanan — June 26, 2007 @ 6:41 am | Reply

  556. BTW, Waqt ne Kiya Kya Haseen Sitam is lyrics of Kaifi Azmi , who was as formidable in writing as Sahir L

    Comment by gajanan — June 26, 2007 @ 8:05 am | Reply

  557. Jatin ji,

    Thanks for your gracious words. When passion rules ones heart and mind , inessentials give way to essentials and prioritisation of issues gets to be the benchmark of capability while composure at all times the cornerstone of integrity.

    Gajanan ji,

    I have downloaded both Real and Quick time. The problem as I see it is one of accessibility. It is disheartening that wordpress does not allow Mp3 or wave or flash players. Blogspot too has not embedded the feature or I could have posted the player on Sachiniti at blogspot, since the same post was originally there. And others having broadband is an extremely small percentage which may again not serve our purpose. Anyways like I said videos are available here.

    Kaifi Azmi and his prowess is something we can be proud about. His was a quiet verse but unmistakable in its veraciousness and inherent strength. One of my favourites. There was raja Mehdi ali Khan , also not much spoken of but his combination with Madan Mohan produced some unforgettable melodies.. all songs of ” Anpadh’ an example.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 26, 2007 @ 10:18 am | Reply

  558. mostly we all come here to share and learn. Its not about listening to music so much as it is about talking of it which is obvious from the fact that it has reached 550 comments.Songs one can easily get to hear all over the net by creating an mp3 of op’s hits.. theeres no probs there. so kaveeta ji dont get hassled. In any case also what I feel is that downloading is expensive for some so even what you take trouble to add and all that very many may not benefit as much as they would by just reading comments here and getting to know the views of so many learned people here or be reminded of songs which they may have long forgotten or maybe just feel bonded with somebody who is sharing similar views. that is what i gather from my visits her.

    Thank you.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 26, 2007 @ 12:29 pm | Reply

  559. Kaveetaaji,
    What I understand from your recent posts, You are trying to incorporate a player on Sachniti. If you have found a way it is OK. But, if not, I think it is not needed. There are many players in the net which can be freely downloaded. Real Player, Music match Jukebox, Winamp etc. for Audio, and power video, winamp, Windows media player, DVX player etc. for both audio and video. I downloaded all these when i had only dial-up connection. Without broad band, they do take a little time , but one should be prepared for that little trouble. Actually it is not a trouble also, as one need not be present physically in front of the computer, while download is proceeding. After downloading them one simply has to install them by following the directions.
    As Gajananji and Krishnanji have said, they can be downloaded by any one, without much hassle. Make one of them a default player for audio and another or same for video.
    I did so in my PC, and I have no problem so far. (My problems of extracting video from DVDs, which I was discussing with you , were of a different sort. and I could still not find a solution for the same). As soon as I click on video or audio icon on Sachniti, the default player takes over and the selected audio or video simply plays on quite nicely without any problem.

    Comment by cumrao — June 26, 2007 @ 7:32 pm | Reply

  560. Cumrao ji and Krishnan ji, comforting words to say the least. Yes I have been trying to install a player here, rather unsucessfully. I am glad my readers, like you dear Cumrao and Krishnan ji are so computer savvy. Thank you.. I am highly relieved. Nevertheless the vodpod will be updated regularly with melodies from O P ji’s collections.God bless!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 26, 2007 @ 7:48 pm | Reply

  561. Yes Cumrao ji exactly. And what we get on the net freely is not the purpose of Saciniti i think.. the comments section here is not available elsewhere. Also like Niloufer ji pointed out whoever has any further ideas should themselves incorporate it here without problems.

    There was a question I have for all our ‘gyaanis ‘ here. Indian ragas are said to be scientific and therefore are famed to have performed surreal incidents.. raag malhaar caused rain and so on. Also they are said to affect our body positively. So does western music have no such ragas? Some of their music is also very soothing and popular. But not based on ragas. So what is their inspiration?

    Comment by Krishnan — June 26, 2007 @ 8:34 pm | Reply

  562. Krishnanji, I am not the gyaani here so cannot answer your question. But what I wanted to say was that this is not a commercial site,I see here no ads. So kaveetaa ji whatever she is doing, spending so much time and energy, is for passion. So if we love op ji or other Mds then whatever we do is also for our passion for them. Other people want to do programmes and make money but here it is only fondness for the man and his tunes.Let us forget about everything else and make use of this site to discuss music. this platform has been given to us for that so let us do it and enjoy !!

    Gajanan ji the link for sahir was so nice. Just a quiet place to read his shairs. if somebody is well versed in Urdu.

    Kaveeta ji you mentioned Raja mehdi ali kahan. What a memory I have of his songs in ‘woh kaun thi’ like lag jaa gale, and mera saaya ‘tu jahan jahaan chalega’.. oof beautiful.

    Comment by niloufer — June 27, 2007 @ 10:27 am | Reply

  563. Niloufer ji,

    Yes the combination of these two was indeed fruitful. Also Op ji and raja mehdi ali khan had composed a song ‘poocho na humme hum unke liye’..from Mitti and sona. i am not an authority but this is one song I know.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 27, 2007 @ 10:33 pm | Reply

  564. Today is 28th June 2007 , friends , it was Jan 28th , when OPN left his mortal coils and bid us Alvida. July 28th will be his half yearly anniversary. I am trying to contact some radio stations, who have superb infrastructure to play his songs as a tribute on radio stations which can be accessed on the net. Overseas , the infrastruture being sound and many stations run by senior persons ( we have to see and request also, you never know some seniors may like ardha english, no urdu, besura Hindi,Bhelpuri Bhojpuri. I have seen a senior man dance to “Woh hai Rock star kuch bhi kaho, to another elder’s remark ‘ Yeh Saab Kalyug ka kaamal hai. So you have to request them).

    I will be posting some web sites of radio stations to which bloggers in this site can contact them directly and request them to play on July 28th 2007, atleast 1 hr of good OPN songs. We may succeed in atleast convincing one or two. If more , very good. One mths time is there.

    ASAP , I will post you the radio stations web sites. Please see time difference as to how it suits the majority of OPN’s fans and if more than one or two agrees then we will adjust the time accordingly.

    Good luck with your try and keep the date July 28th 2007 in your diary, mind and dil.

    Comment by gajanan — June 28, 2007 @ 5:27 am | Reply

  565. This is a New Zealand one. This approximately 4 hrs.50 mins ahead of India , Mumbai
    http://www.tarana.co.nz/
    This is in France . please work out the time difference between Mumbai and France. You could request them.
    http://www.radioteentaal.com/
    This is in USA below. This caters to new film music. But you can request them. Time differenec may be a problem. One thing, July 28th, 2007 is Saturday in India, so it will be Friday in USA.
    http://www.radionri.com/

    Please try your requests.

    Comment by gajanan — June 28, 2007 @ 5:39 am | Reply

  566. u r right krishnanji…’poochho na hamein’ is indeed raja m.a.k.’s. some other hits he wrote for opn are ‘chhuri ban kaanta ban’, o mister dil badi mushkil’, ‘gustaakh nazar chehre se hata’, ‘raat sard sard hai’ (all jaali note), ‘aana aana atariya pe aana’, ‘pyara pyara hai sama’, ‘assalaam aalekum babu’ (kalapana), ‘honolulu’, ‘kenya uganda taganika’, ‘hongkong china mina’ (hongkong), ‘kahiye janaabe ali’, ‘aiji pehli mulaqaat me’, ‘milti hai agar nazaron se nazar'(do dilon ki dastaan) n abv all ‘aap yoon hi agar humse milte rahe’ n ‘mai pyaar ka raahi hoon'(ek musafir…)

    cumraoji, thnx for guiding me (#531)…i’ll definitely try to upload ‘muqaddar ki baat’ the way you said. n not only mkb, i want to make acd’s all the lp, ep n sp records i hv in thousands. i’ll take help from my son who has recently started his career in film editing thus learning all the aspects of computers n softwares. as far as ‘ai saba’ n ‘dar laage’ are concrnd, these shud be from shakila n mahipal starrer ‘alibaba aur 40 chor’ which was rlsd in the same year (1954) shakila’s ‘aarpaar’ was rlsd. unfortunately fantasy n mythological films hv always bn considered as ‘c’ grade ones and no matter how good the music is, concerned music company never bothered to re-release the same thus barring coming generations (incldng mine) from listening those beautiful songs. ofcourse there are some exceptions like ‘parasmani’ n ‘zabak’ which wr re-rlsd.

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 28, 2007 @ 9:48 am | Reply

  567. Gajanan ji, diary mind and dil mein likh liya..LOL

    Thanks for the links. I will write to them let us see if they play those songs.

    Shishir ji..thanks for all the information.I had no idea that even Ek musafir songs were raja MAk’s. fantastic. You are an encyclopedia about the whole industry. Looking forward to the songs you up load.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 28, 2007 @ 11:38 am | Reply

  568. thnx krishnanji…i’m really serious about what said. but i feel uploading is a full-time job n specially for my kind of ‘neem haqeems’. secondly, proper infrastructure like equipments, cables, softwares etc. is required for this work wch i lack. n in mumbai’s lifestyle sparing ‘time’ is the main problem. still i’ll try my level best because this is my own requirement too.

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 28, 2007 @ 12:28 pm | Reply

  569. Just no problems Shishir ji. I understand. take your time Sir! Meanwhile you can tell us a few anecdotes from your experience…if you dont mind..

    Comment by Krishnan — June 28, 2007 @ 7:06 pm | Reply

  570. Sorry forgot to ask.. Shishir ji in comment #534 kaveeta ji replied to somebody who enquired and informed that you are a popular T.V. actor.. I dont see much television. But will you give some details.Thank you.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 28, 2007 @ 7:09 pm | Reply

  571. krishnanji, here on this blog i just wanted to remain a journalist, music critic n film historian but no problem if somebody has recognised me. yes, acting is a part of my proffessional life though i can’t claim that i’m that popular. i’v acted in many serials like shaka laka boom boom (star+) in wch i played principal, kohinoor (sahara one/museum curator ranjan srivastav), kayamat (DD-1/heroine’s father), dharmputra (DD-1/villain murli) etc. n these days i’m playing mehfooz (nargis’ nanajaan) in nargis aired at 2.05 pm mon-friday on DD-1. so far tv is concrnd even i don’t like to see these ‘saas-bahu’ kind of programs…what i watch is either news or discovery n NGC…n since i’m busy almost all the time either shooting or writing (n nw on this blog), it is vv dfclt for me to change already set a lifestyle n learn some new things like ‘uploading’ of songs though i really feel sorry for that…anyway i wud love to remain only a journalist, music critic n film historian on this blog n keep the main purpose behind it maintained…thnx

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 28, 2007 @ 7:46 pm | Reply

  572. cumraoji, due to certain reasons i was not able to come on this blog for some time. nw slowly going thru the posts i missed n found your comment no. 532 reg the song ‘tere hum o sanam’…no sir it’s not from ‘teerandaaz’ but is from ‘bachpan’ n the composer is ‘sardar malik’n this information is furnished by mr.arun bajaj vide comment no. 457, thnx to arunji onceagain. sir among three, this ‘bachpan’ was rlsd in 1963 n the main lead wr salim n menka irani whereas h.s.rawail’s ‘teerandaaz’ was rlsd in 1955 n the main lead wr jairaj, madhubala n ajit n MD was CR. n see hw similar is suman’s voice to that of lata ki mere jaisa ‘kaansen’ got confused. i was under impression that this song was sung by rafi n lata until i got arunji’s reply….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — June 28, 2007 @ 9:39 pm | Reply

  573. Dear friends,
    Have just added four videos to the vodpod.

    1) A song from Baaz

    2) Nazneen.. bada rangeen vaada tera ..from Phir wahi dil laaya hoon

    3) Piya Piya na laage mora jiya.. from Phagun..

    4) Yeh desh hai veer jawaanon ka

    Hope you like them.. hum to jhoom uthe.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — June 29, 2007 @ 5:41 pm | Reply

  574. Thanks Kaveetaa ji. Such lovely songs. Nazneen took me to another world..And in Piya Madhu bala with her impish looks..lovely really. Somehow life was simple then. simple melody clean, simple emotions and small pleasures… compared with today it looks like it was not us but someone else who went through that… that world is gone forever…

    Comment by niloufer — June 29, 2007 @ 6:32 pm | Reply

  575. The sunday mid day today has an interview with Nida fazli the last of the great lyricists. He has touchingly and lovingly spoken of Sahir Ludhianvi and the importance of words.

    ” “According to me real history is written by poets and artistes and it is in this history that you can see the common man. But these days poetry has no place in books, in filmsongs in newspapers.

    If poetry has any place left it’s in Parliament where politicians recite Urdu couplets to elicit claps and even then they recite the couplets of great poets out of metre, they always distort the metre.

    “Writers like Abbas, Jaan Nisar Akhtar, Sahir, Ali Sardar Jaffri, Neeraj, Raja Mehndi Ali Khan, they all knew the beauty of words. Today anybody can write.

    They don’t require qualification. The argument about old songs and nostalgia is not valid. Nothing is old if it is meaningful — Shakespeare is never outdated.

    “Every poet must know history, culture and what went before him to make any impact. Awareness is a must. Even a youngster can write good lyrics/poetry provided he qualifies himself.

    I’ve loved earlier poets — Sahir’s work like Chalo ik baar phir se ajnabi or Ye duniya agar mil bhi jaaye to kya hai, Jan Nissar Akhtar’s Ye dil aur unki nigahon ke saaye or Razia Sultan’s Ai dile nadaan Shailendra’s Jis desh mein ganga behti hai where he says, ‘Kuch log jo jyada jaante hain insaan ko kum pehchante hain.’”

    This is the link

    http://www.mid-day.com/smd/play/2007/july//160160.htm

    he was so right in his sentiments of the present situation. He has spoken of how Sahirs tomb is all but broken in the cemetery.It has not stood the test of time.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — July 1, 2007 @ 2:46 pm | Reply

  576. Jatin Lallji, you are 150% right. Lyrics , there is no lyrics at all in recent songs. I do not know whether this is right, but people say that lyrics are outsourced to by some writers, so that they can make a lot of money, doing little work. In fact the joke going around is that, some bhelpuri bhejne wala also write these outsourced lyrics. In fact it is part time job for these bhelpuri sellers. The quality of words chosen sounds like the lyrics is not written with feelings.

    Comment by gajanan — July 2, 2007 @ 3:56 am | Reply

  577. LOl..I do not know about the bhel puri wallaha but yes I do know of important lyricists who at their peak when incapable of handling the pressure of work have outsourced to other promising lyricist willing to give out his song for a few hundred. But since the famed lyricist had his reputation at stake, he was careful about his selection. Today Im afraid the situation is bad. Quality is not expected , nor appreciated nor available. Its all about popularity and catering to the lowest common denominator.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — July 2, 2007 @ 3:17 pm | Reply

  578. Jatin ji, Gajanan Ji,

    After i read what you both have written i began to think that the possible reason for this is our heroes…in those days all our heroes were grown up men, like Dilip kumar, balraj sahni, Dharmendra, manoj Kumar, and so many others, today even if they reach 40 they are boys…see Aamir, saif, shahrukh, they all want to play college students. so the lyrics are also always meaningless and most basic. Everything has changed. Those days only grown ups were allowed to see films. I was allowed only one film in two months and that too if my mom went with us. today you go to any multiplex it is full of college kids. Dont you think I am right? if heavy lyrics come then these children will not enjoy it. Also if one song which has funny words becomes a hit… all will follow.

    Comment by niloufer — July 2, 2007 @ 4:40 pm | Reply

  579. Shishir ji, I understand .Please do not worry. For us here you are first a historian and critic.

    Niloufer ji, gajanan ji and jatin ji..good debate. I wonder why it is that the ‘lowest common denominator’ was more quality conscious in the 50’s 60’s and even 70’s? we are supposed to be progressing in every area…why have we gone down in lyrics? and referring to nilouferji..why do we want kids as heroes today? its as if the youth dictate all tastes..isnt it?

    Comment by Krishnan — July 2, 2007 @ 7:10 pm | Reply

  580. nilouferji, truth is, demand decides quality of the product…in that golden era, didn’t sahir write ‘dekh idhar aye hasina, june ka hai mahina, daal zulfon ka saya, aa raha hai pasina’? majrooh wrote, ‘geedh ka tu uncle bandar ka tu baap’, jaan nisar akhtar’s ‘chana zor garam …moongphali garam garam’, qamar jalalabadi’s ‘o meri lugayi lugayi yahan aa’ n ‘murgiyon ka shorba pilaoonga tujhe’, Raja m.a.k.’s ‘honolulu’, hongkong china mina singapore’ n ‘kenya uganda tanganika’type meaningless lyrics, s.h.bihari’s ‘chal beta left chal beta right’, aziz kashmiri’s ‘suno suno miss chatterji mere dil ka matterji’, rajinder krishna’s ‘huyi wo jooton ki barsaat tabiyat saaf ho gayi’, tanvir naqvi’s ‘pee le bidi kha le paan’…the list is endless. n today hw many listeners go for naqsh lyallpuri’s ‘apni zulfein mere shano pe bikhar jaane do’ or sayeed qadri’s ‘aawarapan banjarapan’? fact is, ace lyricists too can turn ‘bhelpuriwallas’ as n when required…so what i feel, truth of the market should be accepted healthily…munshi premchand once wrote, ‘buzurgon ka waqt khushiyon bhare bhootkaal, taqleefon bhare vartamaan aur vinaash-yukt bhavishya ki baatein karne me kat-ta hai’….kahin hum bhi unhi buzurgon me shamil hone to nahin jaa rahe hain?

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 2, 2007 @ 8:04 pm | Reply

  581. They wrote that lyrics and they wrote some great ones also, which compensated for their light ones. There are numerous excellent ones of the lyricists mentioned. Now you do not get the great ones, which is what we want to point out. The newcomers are free to indulge in their Pani Kum wali lyrics, but at the same time they have to produce high quality stuff like what Sahir, Shailendra produced.

    Now for example compare Shahryar’s lyrics in 1981, Umrao Jaan to Javed Akhtar’s lyrics in the recent Umrao Jaan. There is so much difference. You can see the ripe intellect in Shahryar’s lyrics , whereas , Javed Akhtar’s lyrics looks like he has to catch the 10:20 am ka Churuchgate fast local from Bandra, carrying the pen, paper and a wad pav straight into the first class compartment. To many it may sound good , but when you compare with Shahryar’s lyrics , you will feel a big let down. So when one compares , you have to compare elegantly and dilgently with references and standards.

    Comment by gajanan — July 3, 2007 @ 5:10 am | Reply

  582. my track-record clearly states whether i write WITH or WITHOUT references…cn any ‘vidwaan’ provide a formula to make a film or music a big hit? cn any ‘vidwaan’ tell why ‘apni zulfein’ or ‘awarapan banjarapan’ (or many other such songs including those of 2dayz umraojaan)failed to make big despite having good music n good lyrics? see, this is ‘market’which compells ‘sahir’ to write ‘mahina n pasina’ n ‘NAUSHAD” to make ‘thandi me pasina chale…’ n the same decides what is a ‘hit’ n what is a ‘flop’. nw the generations hv changed n simultaneously changed the interests, lifestyles, culture etc.etc. ‘nadiya ke paar’ was made for the indians keeping villagers in mind…n after many years the same was remade, keeping in mind the NRI’s…anyway, this ‘bahas’ is endless n i think fruitless also kyonki at last ‘pasand apni apni, khyaal apna apna……’

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 3, 2007 @ 7:41 am | Reply

  583. krishnanji ur post no.569….u askd for the anecdotes from my experience…sir i wud like to tell about munavvar sultana first who was a big name in late 40’s n early 50’s but today no one knows who she was n where she is now…n the people who remember her think she is no more…sir, she started her career opposite motilal in pehli nazar (1947), same film mukesh became playback singer with (dil jalta hai to jalne de…). umadevi (tuntun)’s first song ‘afsana likh rahi hoon’ in ‘dard’ was picturised on munavvar only n also ‘milte hi ankhein dil hua deewana kisi ka’ in ‘babul’….she is alive, stays with his son’s family in mumbai only but is suffering from acute alzheimer’s desease for last 12 years n doesn’t recognise anything, nor can speak…i met her, tried to speak to her but all in-vein….ofcourse his son n daughter cooperated n then only i cud write about her….sir, i’v seen the truth hidden behind glamour n glitters….remember sharda? or mubaraq begum? or joy mukerji, rajindernath, bela bose, ‘zeenat’ famed kalyanibai, ‘rattan’ famed manju, pt.pheroje dastoor, shyama, nimmi, nayna sahu n many more? or ‘ranjeet movietone’s sardar chandulal shah’s son naveen shah?….i know them n met all of them…sir, the truth is really bitter…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 3, 2007 @ 10:35 am | Reply

  584. sorry krishnanji…i’v written ‘his’ in place of ‘her’ in 2 places… really i get emotional while writing about these legends…sorry once again…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 3, 2007 @ 10:41 am | Reply

  585. Shishir ji..Thank you for the information. Munavvar sultana you are referring to is the one who is an actress. After reading your post i looked up on google for her snaps but could not find any.i found a link to her films
    http://beta.lyricsindia.net/vyakti/show/1237/

    there is another Munawwar sultana who is a singer and poet, but she is different i think. The other names you have mentioned like shyama, nimmi, naina sahu etc have not been heard of for a long time. Do tell us of them too.

    todays senior citizens have learnt their lessons from the mistakes of the past generation who did not put much emphasis on savings and health and retirement plans. or they might have been in a better plight. it is so sad to hear of them in such bad shape.

    Comment by Krishnan — July 3, 2007 @ 12:38 pm | Reply

  586. Shishir ji..I agree with what you are saying but like gajanan ji pointed out, a few mediocre ones in a list of excellent can go unnoticed. But today it is the opposite..the majority are chalta hai and a few are worth mentioning like you have quoted those. The market demands this is exactly what we are saying or asking. Why is the market going for stuff which is not quality? we were discussing trends which lead to that.Awaarapan has done very well and lyrics have been admired. The thing is that if music directors and directors decide to put one chalu song and the rest with focus on lyrics the market will automatically get good songs. But the type of films today u can see,..that is why majority flop. Good makers too are not there.

    Comment by niloufer — July 3, 2007 @ 1:00 pm | Reply

  587. nilouferji, who is responsible for it? the md or lyricist? no…he can’t gv anything at his own. whatever he creates is controlled by the captain of the ship i.e. the director…n the dir. is dominated by the financer/producer whose money is involved in the project…n all of them r like puppets in distributor’s hands who buys the film for release…n distributor is scared of the audience…so sitting in a/c rooms one can easily criticise n gv verdict wh’as ground realities are entirely different…film making is an art unfortunately dominated by money power thus full of insecurities …n lakshmi aur saraswati ke beech ki chemistry to sub jaante hi hain…n v see only the hits of that golden era…if v c, will find many folds of flops behind one hit in that period also…in that era most of the ‘halke-phulke’ songs usd to be made for comediens…johnywalker used to sing ‘champi tel malish’ bt nw the scenerio is different, hero himself has bcm a comedien thus singing ‘tujhe mirchi lagi to mai kya karoon’ on screen…aur phir generations hv changed, thus has changed the taste…today very few people love to listen ‘awarapan’…most of the people like ‘bheege honth tere…raat bhar karoon pyaar (ya aisa hi kuchh)….aise me wo kya karey who hs spent crores of rupees from his pocket? no one wants ki uski film ka haal gulzar ki ‘libaas’ jaisa ho which is a good film with good music….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 3, 2007 @ 6:54 pm | Reply

  588. krishnanji, munavvar s. i talked about was a heroine and not a singer or poet…information avlbl about her on NET is not correct…she acted in around 30 films starting frm ‘pehli nazar'(1945/mstknly typed 1947 in my previous cmmnt)…some other films are andhon ki duniya, dard, elaan, naiya (all 1947), meri kahani, majboor, sona, parayi aag (all 1948), opn’s first film kaneez, dil ki duniya, sawan-bhadon, nisbat, dada, raat ki rani, uddhaar (all 1949), pyaar ki manzil, sabak, sartaaz, babul (all 1950), apni izzat, tarang (1952), ehsaan, watan (1954) n her last film jallaad (1956). so far her pictures r cncrnd i hv a few but don’t know hw to send to u….similarly nayna sahu was in news in 60’s…she acted in ‘hare kaanch ki choodiyan’ (remember sj’s ‘dhani chnri pahan’ n ‘panchhi re ud ja re’?) n ‘pushpanjali (lp’s ‘shaam dhale jamuna kinare’ n ‘jaane chale jaate hain kahan’), both prdcd by her father kishore sahu (who introduced bina rai in kaali ghata) n then left glamourworld n got married…now she is mrs.nayna rao in her 60’s n is residing in chembur mumbai…coincidentally one of her brothers actor vikram sahu is a gd frnd of mine n was one of the bros. in ‘satte pe satta’…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 3, 2007 @ 8:32 pm | Reply

  589. The NRI population has multiplied so much alongside with the web etc. This could be one of the causes for the ratio of lyrics to tilt more towards the chalu type. You are right on that point SKS. After all the conversion rate of the currency is there , plus the NRI’s look towards glamour in their country of origin as very advanced culture, which one feels is very delusory. It could be a very big factor for the decline of lyrics. There may be NRI’s exceptions to this , but the number will be very low.

    Comment by gajanan — July 4, 2007 @ 6:13 am | Reply

  590. yes gajananji…n the major reason is, ‘globalisation’ has put such an impact on our (n may be on other’s too) society that our culture has bcm like ‘khichdi’. we want to bcm ‘angrez’ but can’t get fully cut off from our roots. cn anybody dare to make ‘ghoonghat’ today when ‘bahus’ wear jeans or minis? cn any md or lyricist create ‘laage na mora jiya’ when 2dayz generation goes for ‘ticket to hollywood’ or ‘aye ganpat daru la’ type songs? ofcourse there are a few banners like ‘chopras’ or ‘bhatts’ who hv gutts to make their kind of good films with good music bcoz they r established ones with great reputation n r so confident that they work on their own terms n conditions. n at last, if present generations were not so different from those of 50’s n 60’s, one of 2dayz most talented MD ismail darbar wud hv bn very very busy. unfotunately he has no work today despite giving ‘hum dil…’ n ‘devdas’….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 4, 2007 @ 7:56 am | Reply

  591. Ssishirji,

    Mediocrity has become the order of the day.These bogus people in the name of art scratch each other’s back, manage to get into every frame everywhere and if any one dare criticize them, he is quickly exiled to social Siberia.

    During the last 10-15 years has this industry made even one movie which could equal the cinematic excellence of Do Bigha Zameen, Awaara, Shikast, Pyaasa, Sri 420, Garam Coat, Do AAnkhe Barah Hath,Jagte Raho, Foothpath, Boot polish, Kagaz Ke Phool, Satyakam, Anand, Anari,Aandhi etc? Have you now even one poet of the calibre of Sahir,Shailendra, Majrooh and Shakeel? Or a singer of the class of Rafi, Lata, Mukesh, Manna dey, Talat or Hemanta? Or music-directors like Shankar-Jaikishan, Naushad, C. Ramchandra, O P Nayyar, SD Burman? The point is you all are celebrating your own mediocrity and then congratulating each other to feel secure.

    The actors today are pathetic a lot. Roshan’s son does pyrotechnics and it is mistaken for acting. Shah Rukh has one and a half expression with a crooked smile of the south-west corner of his lips and he gets voted as the best actor for god knows how many years. Others looks like body-builders. Where are the Balraj Sahnis, Raj Kapoors, Dilip and Ashok Kumars, Motilals and Jayants, David, Meena Kumaris and Nutans? Except Nasruddin, Shabana , Paresh and some character actors ,what does this fraternity boast of?

    Few really talented ones also lost their direction. Take the example of Javed Akhtar. By using the model of James hadley Chase in his earlier film scripts,he spawned the trend of un-required violence and gore in Hindi films. The films he wrote were time-pass o.k. stuff but unfortunately , now trivia like Sholay and others are treated as classics. Stupid monologues and dialogues of these films have become cult lines. “Arre O Samba! “Kitne Aadmi they!”…admirers of such prose should be whacked across their faces. I at least expect something more from him who once wrote ,even if many years back…..

    “Apni apni tariqi ko log ujala kehte hain
    Tariqi ke naam likkhu, ya kaume ,firaqay jaat likhun”

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 4, 2007 @ 12:10 pm | Reply

  592. Wow!
    Arun ji 🙂

    If possible do read my movie reviews.. Almost mirrored some of my thought on ‘mediocrity being celebrated’ in the self same words, among all else .

    Although I do not agree about Hrithik. He is a Directors actor.. Make him perform to ‘do bigha zameen’.. he will. Javed Akhtar, Neeraj Saheb, Nida Fazli are our last hope in the industry. Bowing down to pressures may be the adversity these and other great talents face on a daily basis but we atleast some of us can sense the brilliance behind the veil ..That goes for artists in any field today, actors, musicians, Directors, writers, lyricists, Its not as if our country has suddenly got impoverished on the creative front. Its the takers, read backers who are diminishing.

    Unfortunately since all Art is also Commerce, the conundrum continues.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 4, 2007 @ 12:23 pm | Reply

  593. u r 101% correct arunji…but the real artistes (in any field) hv no market today…i’v seen if someone tries to perform seriously, people say, ‘arre yaar dilip kumar mat ban’ or ‘yaar ham koi mughal-e-azam nahin bana rahe hain’…the most common word heard in industry these days is ‘chhapo’…means mint money at any cost…i personally feel, still we hv good artistes like ismail darbar, shantanu moitra, mm kreem, jatin-lalit
    (halanki wo khud apne paanv par kulhadi maar chuke hain), sandesh shandilya, uttam singh, lyricists anil pandey, mehboob, swanand kirkirey, sayeed qadri actors mainly from theatre-background etc.etc. but where do they stand today so far commercial cinema is concrnd? on the other hand we hv ‘sameer’ who has ‘brain’ to write 10 songs a day(?). since lakshmi has dominated every aspect of life, saraswati’s absence is obvious…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 4, 2007 @ 1:11 pm | Reply

  594. ‘TUM NA JAANE KIS JAHAN ME KHO GAYE…….’ doesn’t this line fit for mr.murty rajmundry waale n mr.cumrao n some other friends? long time no see? where n how are u sir?

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 4, 2007 @ 8:28 pm | Reply

  595. I am a latecomer to this site.This is a real revelation to me.I spent 2 hours just going through all the writeups.
    Thanks for sharing your memories of Sri O.P.Nayyar.I wish some one will write more about songs of Talat by O.P.There are not many but they are all gems.
    Is there any omnibus collection of CDs or DVDs of O.P.Nayyar’s music?
    Ramamurthy

    Comment by Subramanian Ramamurthy — July 4, 2007 @ 9:44 pm | Reply

  596. warm welcome to you subramaniam sahab…i was under impression that i was the only late(st)comer… anyway i failed to retain my position…so far talat is concrnd, he sang total 3 songs for OPN in 2 films…1 solo n 2 duets…n these are 1.(solo) – mujhe dekho hasrat ki tasveer hoon mai/film baaz (1953)/lyrics.majrooh/prod.ms.haridarshan/dir.gurudutt (haridarshan kaur was geeta bali’s sister n yogita bali’s mother), 2 & 3.(duets with asha bhosle) – pyar par bas to nahi hai mera lekin phir bhi… & sach bata tu mujhpe fida arey kyon hua aur kaise hua / film sone ki chidiya (1958)/ lyrics.sahir ludhiyanvi/prod.ismat chugtai/dir.her husband shahid lateef (he also directed opn’s baharein phir bhi aayengi)…talat acted in this film with balraj sahni n nutan…….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 4, 2007 @ 10:37 pm | Reply

  597. Welcome Subramaniam ji,

    Ashraft Saheb here has the collection. Right now as Shishir ji has said.. woh na jaane kis jahaan mein kho gaye..LOL ..He will be here soon and so many others who will help you out with your collection.

    Nice to meet you

    Krishnan

    Comment by krishnan — July 4, 2007 @ 11:06 pm | Reply

  598. Aping and copying western ideas has been responsible for this, Arunji. There used to be saying that camera must speak and not the actors. There were films like Jagte Raho etc , which had the cameras speak and not the actors. Now with this gadgetry and computer graphics , you can do anything and record songs anyway. The future entirely depends on technology and how they use or misuse it in films. I feel , in the long run , viewers and listeners may get bored and they may long to see drama in a theatre.

    Comment by gajanan — July 5, 2007 @ 7:18 am | Reply

  599. Yun to hamne lakh … dekhen hain , aap sa nehin dekha shishirji,

    I am going through your writings and others too regularly and daily atleast i open this site 5~6 times. My only request is when ever you are free please upload the songs of “Mukaddar ki baat”.

    regards,

    G N Murty , Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — July 5, 2007 @ 10:44 am | Reply

  600. zaroor…buss aap iss blog par baney rahein murtyji…pl keep on opening this blog any no. of times u like but don’t forget to post atleast one comment a day…one thing more, u left a blank space in ‘yun to humne laakh… dekhe hain’…pl do fill this blank…thanks…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 5, 2007 @ 10:52 am | Reply

  601. Some things don’t ever change, Gajananji which we call “Shashwat” in our language. A boy will always like to kick a football, a girl will always smile at the thought of her Prince Charming. In our case our new generation have been totally hijacked by the western culture but in the process they have adopted the negative influence of the west. They don’t feel pride in their own culture and heritage and just imitating the west like an ape.Where the species of urban civilisation has gone which wept over Faiz’s poetry , laughed with R.K. tramp, stood in polite queues to take their turn and recited from Shakespeare and Ghalib? Technology is only a tool and this over dependence on technology has ruined our art and culture.

    Shishirji, very rightly, has talked about Lakshmi and Sarswati. People are hankerig after money. The rich man wants to become richer but they don’t know, how hard he hugs his money, it never hugs back.It is only in India that wealth is worshipped so unabashedly. In no other country, there is a God or Goddess of wealth. Now the question is why rich man wants to become richer? What can you do with 50 crores which you can’t do with 5 crores? Will ice-cream taste better?

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 5, 2007 @ 7:57 pm | Reply

  602. shishirji,
    I too add my request to G.N.Murty’s. Pl. post somehow the songs of muqaddarki baat.
    I am going through all your recent posts everyday, as my last activity before I go to bed, to forget the day’s worries and concerns. You seem to be a walking encyclopedia on Hindi songs( may be other also I dont know). i learnt a lot about the good old days and regret that those innocent days could never come back.

    Comment by cumrao — July 5, 2007 @ 7:59 pm | Reply

  603. Subramanyamji,
    Welcome to the group. You are right about Talat. Those few songs sung by him for OP are gems. i posted a video of Mujhe dekho hasrat, the Baaz song mentioned by Shishirji in this pod , but a wrong tag got attached to that. The more no. of times I hear that the more I am liking it. It is really very haunting melody. Pyar par basto nahin of soneki chidiya, of course is well known hit. But, Mujhe dekho hasrat of Baaz is a hidden Gem.

    Comment by cumrao — July 5, 2007 @ 8:09 pm | Reply

  604. My friends overseas inform me that , there is very good repsonse to theatre , esp the musicals. In fact West end in UK theatre goes full, which is a good sign away from the artificial computer graphics created visuals. It is like this, the audience is maturing and they have realised that , even Gajananji after retirement can created a movie with computers sitting at home. I think it is not far off , it will soon happen in India. Audiences will change , get bored and it will be back to theatre and good old days of good camera power.

    Comment by gajanan — July 6, 2007 @ 4:22 am | Reply

  605. Here I put a question to all the elders like Cumraoji, Shishirji, Arunji and Gajananji,

    Recently , I was watching a musical programme (talent search) on Zee TV and the participants were divided into few groups and each group has one guide or guru. These guru’s are present day composers like Vishal-Sekhar, Himesh Reshamiyya , Ismail Darbar and Bappi Lahiri. The episodes were judged by legends like Khayyam saab, Anandji saab(Kalyanji Anandji fame) and Asha Bhosle. Almost all the gurus are seen critisising the judgment of these legends. My question is , is it fair on the part of junior / present day composers to critisise the judgment of such seniors ? Atleast I felt very bad. Can Ismail Darbar or Bappi Lahiri or Himesh be compared with the musical legends like OPN , SDB , SJ or Khaiyyam ? Are they so capable composers and can they criticize the work or the decision of these legends ? Why I became so emotional because I could see the pain of Khayyam saab when these so called composers were critising him publicly that his judgment is wrong and compelling the participants to tell that they are not happy with the judgment (though later they apologized for doing so). Everybody knows the quality of music composed by these composers and it is not acceptable that the present day music composers should behave this way towards their seniors.

    Regards,

    G N Murty , Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — July 6, 2007 @ 1:26 pm | Reply

  606. murty saheb, i don’t know much about today’s music yet i like ismail darbar’s and to some extent bappi’s since both of them hv given melodious songs whenever they got a chance (remember bappi’s ‘muskurata hua…mera yaar’, ‘awaaz di hai’, ‘kisi nazar ko tera intezar’, ‘inteha hogayi’, ‘sheesha sharaab shabnam’ n many others n ismail’s classical based songs?). so far himesh is cncrnd he is like a ‘barsati mendhak’ who only knows ‘madhya saptak ke pancham se taar ke madhyam tak singing in baraats’ n talking about him is simply waste of time, thats what i feel (sorry to hurt his fans, if any on this blog). but it is not necessary that a good artiste is always a good human being. one’s behaviour, nature n respect for elders depend upon his upbringing, family background, ‘sanskaar’, schooling etc. secondly often such ‘dramas’ are preplanned to give a boost to the TRP’s of the show. therefore whatever happened on the said show, may be it was a part of the script. n then money is the biggest factor after which everybody is running be it a senior or a newcomer…i can’t resist myself to divulge the fact here that money is everything for khayyam saheb(with due respect to him) …if you don’t believe, please ask him for an interview, even for a local newspaper of your town(n this is not only my personal experience but every insider knows it)….sir, what i feel, the ‘artist’ n ‘human’ aspects of a personality shud always be kept n seen seperately. that’s what i did n still do in nayyar sahebs case. i was, am n will remain an admirer n diehard fan of ‘music dir.’OPN but so far he, as a human being is concerned, i hv already tlked much about him….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 6, 2007 @ 11:24 pm | Reply

  607. Shishir ji you as an insider knows details most of us do not..so what you have written can be understood.For audiences like me and Murthy ji it looked like Khayyam saheb was being insulted by Ismail darbar. Age sometiimes gives a person an added advantage of leniency. But if wht you are saying is true which it must be then probably that is what Ismail darbar knew and spoke up against. Then in that case Asha Bhonsle had made an openly wrong decision by inclusing a bad singer and throwing out a very talented one ..few episodes back. which Bhappi lahiri and all others spoke up against also Ismail.. so Asha was clearly prejudiced for reasons best known to her. I forget the name of the two girls.. age is never a friend. These shows then are a total hoax.

    Comment by Krishnan — July 7, 2007 @ 3:43 pm | Reply

  608. krishnanji, the whole game is that of TRP only…3-4 days back there was a sensational news on one of the leading news channels when a car without anyone inside was running on road in ahmedabad n many hours had been dedicated to this news…n anchor was screaming like roadside ‘madaris’, ‘dil thaam ke baithiye kuchh hi der me hum iska khulasa karne jaa rahe hain’…n the said ‘khulasa’ was nothing but simply a stunt prformed by two stuntmen running with car on road…’khoda pahaad nikla chooha’ but certainly their TRP was on the top during that period of time thus helping the channel more n more money. i’ll once again repeat, whatever the media presents before us is only ‘ardhsatya’. everybody present on this earth has many faces n what we see, doesn’t mean is one’s real face…everybody seen on the screen gets fat amount of money for his presence…he can never dare to lose this opportunity be it ismail or asha or bappi or khyyam saheb or anybody else…atlast i wud say, we should do only constructive and positive talks on this blog…a star of ‘silent’ era (madhuri) is still alive and is probably the only surviving artist of that period. she acted in many silent films of ‘ranjit studio’ (eg: baghdad ki bulbul, ghoonghatwali, love-birds, royal romance-all 1931) n is an anglo-indian n is residing in banglore. similarly husn bano who acted n sang in naushad’s first film prem nagar (1940) still lives in codaicanal. has anybody ever met them? how are they now? must be very old. if smbdy cn, pl do try to meet them….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 7, 2007 @ 10:08 pm | Reply

  609. Thanks Gajanan for reminding me of “Jagte Raho”. Raj Kapoor in jagte raho is just mesmerizing. There is no acrobatics, no special effects, he fires no shots, pulls no punches, displays no biceps, doesn’t bare his chest……still the sheer power of performance keeps you spell bound. In fact, he doesn’t utter a single word except in last ten minutes of the film, still you cannot take your eyes off the screen. He was perhaps the most natural and effortless actor of hindi cinema.

    Today when every hero seems to come from a gym. ,we miss the “Raju” , who stood for human relationship, who cared for others, who was ready for sacrifice, who loved and lost but kept smiling.

    Regarding musical hunt show on tv (zee- sony- star), from ismaail darbar to aadesh to abhijeet, all are jokers and none is competent enough to judge the show.

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 8, 2007 @ 3:36 am | Reply

  610. There is a saying ” Jealousy is the bane of slave races” . The present day composers questioning Khayyam is like eating the obesity causing Pizza to stomach friendly dhall bath. These present day composers are caught up in the sinking sand of pale imitation of Western tunes and have become slaves to anything Western. There are helpless and plain jealous about the achievements of the yesteryear composers and lyric writers. It looks like an act of self defence pyschologically to their pathetic musical notes. You can confirm with any psychiatarist about these loud proclaimations of self defence, when questioned by men and women of excellence.
    One should call them barking dogs at the Sun.

    Khayyam, OPN Nayyar, SD Burman, SJ, LP , ( and even KA) Jaidev, Vasant Desai, C Ramachandra, Naushad are all bright stars of the music firmament, with lyricists providing them exemplary lyrics like the rays of the glowing Sun. Their contribution will be permanent. Now to come of this new MD’s , their contribution will be sucked up in black holes of the galaxy, and nobody will ever utter them , for years to come. You can even end saying ” Bandar Kya Jane Adrak Ka Swad” . Yes , their frivolous arguements sums up this quote and the quote written at start.

    Comment by gajanan — July 8, 2007 @ 1:00 pm | Reply

  611. Arunji,
    Your comments on Raj in jaagte raho are very apt. Raj kapoor was a class apart in Indian films in histrionic talent. However it must be admitted, without detracting anything from Raj’s merit, that he was India’s answer to Charlie Chaplin.
    However, in Jaagte raho, he departed from that and shown his own abundant talent for creativeness in performance. I personally consider his Jaagte raho performance was the best ever in Hindi films. But, still he could not win the filmfare award for that year.
    As you said, he proved one point mentioned by Charlie chaplin, that vocal dialogues obviate the necessity of facial expressions of the actor, and the true talent does not come out. That was why Chaplin made silent movies like Modern Times even after evolution of talkies.

    Comment by cumrao — July 8, 2007 @ 7:55 pm | Reply

  612. Any response to broadcast OP Nayyar’s songs on July 28th from any radio station globally?

    Comment by gajanan — July 9, 2007 @ 8:45 am | Reply

  613. Kavee,
    I hope you like the `address’!
    As advised, I am here on `sachiniti’! And, unimginable good have you done to me !! I didn’t know that there were people as mad about OP Nayyar as me !!!
    The whole day, on that fateful day of January, I had been asking my acquaintances to sing whatever OP numbers they could ! I was lucky, they obliged !
    There have not been occasions when I had a `choice’ and I didn’t ask for an OP song to be sung- whether in close groups or in the biggest functions of the places where I have lived !
    Fortunately for me, I have also been incharge of all sports & cultural activities at Bhilai for a few years and had his songs rendered on all possible occasions !

    Kavee, I reproduce below your own comments from this very column, before I close :

    “Puja,

    why just the industry.. I think it is true of the universe in general.Nobody has time to maaintain ties ..emotions are the most useless emotion to nurture in these days of materialism..

    Anonymous.. yeah. Come to think of it. He seems to have taken on the struggle for himself. I maybe wrong but I sensed a detachment and yogic air about him. He did not the least look as if he was cursing his situation or juncture in life. Very resigned to it and witnessing it all with a calm. The smile on his face seemed to say it all.

    Monica..He was before my times too. but his music is timeless. We grew up with R.D., but I loved O.P. always. And still do. He is unmatchable and inimitable..

    Silbil,

    yes.. I loved the song you mentioned..’woh hans ke mille humse’ is also from the same film and Kaifi Azmi..The last of the mohicans..kaifi Saab.You remember ‘waqt ne kiya kya haseeen sittum’ from Kaagaz ke phool? Neither those makers. nor lyrics, nor music..Itna thehraav. Today everything has to be pulsating alive or then it is re-mixed to be so. Wonder why?”

    Tremendous ! I would say !!

    And, would close for the time being, with memories of “Jaaiye aap kahaan jaayenge ye nazar laut ke phir aayegi…” & ” Priyatam aan milo.. Priyatam aan milo.. dukhiyaa jiyaa bulaaye, Priyatam aan milo..(`Gair filmi’, sung by C H Atma, music-composed by the `great’
    OP Nayyar )!”
    Grateful-anil sharma.bhilai.

    Comment by Anil Sharma — July 9, 2007 @ 4:25 pm | Reply

  614. Dear mr. curao,

    It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma as to why Jagte Raho released in 1956 never received the accolades deservedly due to it in India ; though the jury of Karlovy Vary Film Festival, to make up for the injustice, did award the BEST PICTURE trophy to it in the subsequent year. In the framing of montage, in conveying meaningful symbolism, and in the lacing of dialogues with sardonic wit and black humour , the movie flows like a poem on celluloid. At a microcosmic level, Jagte Raho unwrapped the ugly face of the post-independent India in the course of one night .

    The Building in which the poor villager gets trapped, symbolizes urban vice. The country tramp’s expectation is nothing more than water from this vice centre. For such a simple, basic need he is branded as a thief and the resident – occupants organize themselves to hound and slaughter him as they would to a man-eater. The dehumanized pursuit, in an interesting series of events, exposes the underbelly of the moral brigade. The thirsty person finally reaches his nemesis in a counterpoint whose subtext is very subtly woven in the movie to possibly keep the belief in optimism alive ; and perhaps to hope for a better India shorn of corruption, capitalism and hypocrisy.

    Raj Kapoor’s eyes did all the talking. Here was an actor who did not require the crutches of words to convey what he did convey. Those helpless, begging, fearful, quizzical eyes carried pools of eloquence. No actor in the history of Hindi cinema has ever risen to such heights to render such a flawless performance. The ensemble of cast comprising of Motilal, Pahari Sanyal, Smiriti Biswas and Pradeep Kumar fitted their roles to a T. The lusty Bhangra song was an indictment of society’s double-talk and hypocrisy and cut to the quick. . Incidentally, Bhangra genre was introduced for the first time in Jagte Raho and it was only a year later that OP Nayyar re-introduced the bhangra in Naya Daur with spectacular results in 1957.

    Our film-historians mindlessly parrot the names of only Mother India, Mughal-e-Azam and Sholay when asked to name the All Time Greats. You know why. Some suffer from amnesia while some are wet-behind-the-ears brats; and you cant expect anything worthwhile from these clowns. Let Ignorance be their fate and let them drown in the cesspool of their own making.

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 9, 2007 @ 5:03 pm | Reply

  615. As Geeta Dutt’s death anniversary is in july, I felt like writing few lines on this simple, talented and graceful lady. How can we forget her….she is fossilized in our heart.

    Geeta never sang, she just wafted through a tune. And under OPN and SDB baton she developed into a really hep singer who could belt out any number…..soft, sultry, romantic, snappy, teasing or tragic. Lata was in awe of her and though better trained, she couldn’t match her vocal vitality and vivacity. Lata avoided confronting Geeta in the recording room as far as possible. Geeta could sing keertan and club song with equal ease.

    Whether the number be “mera naam chin-chin choo” or “chor lutere daaku”, she had the God given gift of sounding sensuous without sounding salacious.She had a bright, breezy voice….no female singer better articulated the spirit of OPN’s music in it’s early years better than her. Hear her “hey-hey-hey-hey….heyhey”(baazi) or “chik-chick-chick-cha, cha –chhai, chick-chik –chik –cha, cha-chhai” (kala bazaar)……..the songs would stuck to you for days to come. If life sucks just put one of the jazzy and breezy number of Geeta Dutt and she will transport you to the another world.

    She was “thandi hawa” and “kaali ghata” for her fans.

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 9, 2007 @ 8:11 pm | Reply

  616. Welcome Anil ji,

    Oh yes.. I loved the ‘address’.

    I am so glad you are also a fan of O P ji. As is evident here, we are all so overwhelmed by him and others like him who have gifted us moments of pure ecstasy. In the vodpod video collection, by clicking on the header, the “Home’ page will open up with a category ‘OP nayyars hits’.. you will find quite a few of his songs there for your listening pleasure.

    Friends Mr. Anil Sharma I met at Sulekha in the comment section of one of my posts:
    http://kaveetaakaul.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/06/touch-me-not-girls-boys-under-vigilance-in-schools/comments.htm

    Do share your views on music with us Anil ji.

    @Arun ji,

    You said ..”Geeta never sang, she just wafted through a tune.”..so true. Effortless, intuitive and soulful renderings will always be her hallmark. “Na jaao saiyyan chuda ke baiyyan’ a telling example.Inimitable!!

    Incidentally it was Guru Dutts birth anniversary yesterday..9th July. His death shattered her ..

    This is what Op ji had to say of Geeta Dutt:

    “” ……….Who will deny there is a unique quality to her singing. Give her a blatantly westernized tune this moment and a complex classical composition the next, and she will do equal justice to both with an ease of expression which a singer can only be born with. She is particularly good for songs accompanying boisterous jamborees. With that tantalizing lilt and fascinating curves she puts into her singing,she is the ideal choice if it is seductive allure you want in a song……..Geeta Dutt is an asset to any music director. ”

    Her own ten favourites as reported:

    The ten songs she selected then represented definite landmarks in her singing career. They are

    ‘Mat ja mat ja jogi’ (Jogan – 1950 ) This was her own personal favourite.
    ‘Mera sundar sapna beet gaya’ (Do Bhai – 1947 )
    ‘Na yeh chand hoga’ (Shart – 1954 )
    ‘Tadbir se bigdi hui taqdeer’ (Baazi – 1951 )
    ‘Yeh lo main hari piya’ (Aar Paar – 1954 )
    ‘Khayalon mein kisike’ (Baawre Nain – 1950 ) with Mukesh
    ‘Aaj sajan mohe ang laga lo’ (Pyaasa – 1957 )
    ‘Jaane kya tunhe kahi’ (Pyaasa – 1957 )
    ‘Ae dil mujhe bata de’ (Bhai Bhai – 1956 )
    ‘Hai yeh duniya kaunsi’ (Sailaab – 1956 )

    AS reported “Some of Geeta’s best work for e.g. ‘Waqt ne kiya kya haseen sitam’ from Kaagaz ke Phool(1959), ‘Chale aao, chale aao’ from Sahib Bibi aur Ghulam (1962) and the songs of Anubhav (1971) were to come later and naturally they do not find a place in that list.”

    For more on Geeta Dutt read here..well compiled page.

    http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ducksoup/26/GeetaDutt.htm

    So thoughtful of you to remember her death anniversary Arun ji and bring us to pay our tributes.

    Thank you.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 10, 2007 @ 11:04 am | Reply

  617. aahh..Geeta Dutt..Thank you arun ji for reminding us. I have always felt so sad for the life that both Geeta and Guru dutt had to finally face. I had friends who lived close to their home. She had turned into an absolute recluse..poor thing. Yes alcohol was the effect but the cause was first her husband and waheedas romance and then his death..she killed herself if not suicide like him then drinking. Now I believ her son too has committed suicide.My gos so much talent that we are still remembering her but so much unhappiness. God doesnt give everybody everything or then who will remember Him?
    The songs of anubhav her last film still she sang so well..’koi chupke piya ke’ ..so much feeling. She was God gifted..May she rest in Peace!!

    Comment by Niloufer — July 10, 2007 @ 6:01 pm | Reply

  618. Dear friends,

    have added two songs of Geeta Dutt on the vodpod

    1) Thandi hawa kaali ghata

    2) Hum aapki aankhon mein is dil ko

    Enjoy 🙂

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 10, 2007 @ 6:41 pm | Reply

  619. Anilji,
    Welcome to our group of hard core OP fans. I may be much older to you(68), but had the good fortune of having had my youth during the period, 50s and 60s, which can be called “when music was king”.
    The unique, inimitable Nayyar thrilled my heart from the time of Aarpaar. As you said, there may be other great MDs but OP was always special. I tag various stages of my life with a particualarly favorite song created by Nayyar.

    Comment by curao — July 10, 2007 @ 7:32 pm | Reply

  620. Arunji, Kaveetaa ji and Nilouferji,
    Thank you all for recalling the great contribution of my Graceful Golden Geetha and mentioning some of her sultry as well as some of her heart rending soulful songs.
    some of her songs most memorable to me are :Babuji dhire chalna, Khayalon me kisike, Waqt ne kiya, Chori lutere daku, jhuka jhukahai nigahon, Jaataho to jaao kal, Mera naam chin chin chinchu, Thandi thandi hawa(with Asha), Thandi hawa kali ghata(Thank you very much kaveethaji for posting this video), Bhagwan do ghadi of do bhai, ai dil hain deewane of Baaz, the many songs of Baazi, Darshan pyasi of sangdil, The Saheb bibi songs, Many songs of Jogan.
    There can be no better judge than OP of a singers talents, and he was absolutely right. Give her a song of any genre and she could sing with unparalleled elan. Just recall her range from Jogi mat jaao of jogan to Mera naam chin chin chu.
    I still remember the mid fifties, when OP was storming the music world, on a particular wednesday when Chori lutere daku first entered Binaka Geethmala, Geetha had the max. No. of female songs. OP-Geetha combination went that high. its a pity that OP had to abandon Geetha later owing to Asha’s jealousy.
    No wonder even the great Lata was scared of her. Just imagine Lata trying Mera naam chin chin chu, or yeh raah badi mushkil of Gateway of India.

    Comment by curao — July 10, 2007 @ 8:09 pm | Reply

  621. http://www.rediff.com/movies/2007/jul/10naya.htm

    This is a web site about re release of Naya Daur. All speak , right from Gratitude to the film makers and actors , no mention of OP Nayyar. What a bloody duniya this is? I used to eat a lot of chewing gum when young , and then one day I realised that after the flavour , I spit out the gum. I found this very hopeless way of perfuming my mouth. So I stopped this habit and decided to have good dietary habits. Then I realised one thing , that I must have gratitude to those who make good food. I always thank my Wada Pav supplier once a week and my parents daily and my gurus whenever I meet them.

    So friends this Chewing gum philosophy exhibited in the article in the web site mentioned is a reminder that ” Ghum hi Ghum Hai agar Insaan Chewing gum approach seriously le lo tho”

    Comment by gajanan — July 11, 2007 @ 6:52 am | Reply

  622. Gurus bec they enlightened me about being a “Chewing gum like homosapien” Their advice struck a chord. Chod do yeh chewing gum and its philosophy, I said. Gum se phasne acha hai ki Khushi raho, Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Ghum

    Comment by gajanan — July 11, 2007 @ 12:29 pm | Reply

  623. Gajananji..kyaa baat kahi hai aapne..So true.. I read the link and saw no mention of Op ji and it was a function to release the music!!!! it is so sad and also unbelievable. Such short memories people have..it is like raat gayi bat gayee..but this is not baat this is about Insaan and Insaaniyat.But if you think then tomorrow if some other was absent, like say the actor, he would have also been forgotten.
    Or maybe asha agreed to come on condition that O P ‘s name was not mentioned..Who knows.
    Aapne humour ne baat nikaal di.. acha laga..No chewing Ghum for me also

    Comment by Niloufer — July 11, 2007 @ 1:52 pm | Reply

  624. because of your example gajananji i too have posted a comment there.We should let them know what we feel even if they dont read it somebody will and remember that O P ji gave music for this film.

    Comment by Niloufer — July 11, 2007 @ 2:13 pm | Reply

  625. Curao ji..really enjoyed your heartflet tribute to ‘Graceful Golden Geeta’.The songs that you have mentioned speak of such great talent. Even till her last songs her voice quality remained the same..I think it was Anubhav songs..’mujhe jaan na kaho meri jaan’..even when she was so ill.

    Gajananji..you did right in wrting about it on that rediff site. It is really so shocking how people can behave like this in front of the whole world and that too on a music release..itwas not even a film release that they would have ignored him. You are right gajanan ji ..after the taste goes chewing gum has to be thrown away just as we throw off the contributios of great talents like these. Great example. Niloufer ji good of you also to speak of your anger there.

    Comment by Krishnan — July 11, 2007 @ 8:13 pm | Reply

  626. Gajananji, Niloufer ji, I have put in a comment as well on the rediff site

    http://www.rediff.com/movies/2007/jul/10naya.htm

    expressing my reactions on not seeing OP jis name there. Niloufer thoughtful of you to link this space. Yeah like you said one does not know for sure who is reading it. But we cannot possibly remain silent onlookers at this grave injustice.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 12, 2007 @ 1:37 pm | Reply

  627. Not mentioning O.P.Nayyar’s name at the release of songs of Naya Daur?!!!!!.absolutely shocking and unbelievable and inexcusable, cant be justified by any reason, or logic. My blood is boiling. I am upset so much that I can’t write more

    Comment by curao — July 12, 2007 @ 7:02 pm | Reply

  628. Somewhere I read that OP Nayyar saab has sang one song for a punjabi film ” Dulha Bhatti” in the year 1938 when he was just 12 years old and even Nayyar saab acted in the same film. The film’s music director was Pandit Govind Ram and the song was ” Rab di janaab vicho aeho dil….

    Really it is a surprise news for me.

    G N Murty , Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — July 12, 2007 @ 7:05 pm | Reply

  629. Curaoji, If possible you should state your protest on the rediff site as we have done. I understand what you are feeling.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 12, 2007 @ 10:00 pm | Reply

  630. Hi Friends,

    I have sent a letter to the editor of rediff site indicating that it was very disrespectful and unbecoming on part of all those involved in the Re-Launch of Naya Daur to totally ignore the deceased music maestro. I have my own doubts if my letter would have any impact.

    How about taking out advertisements in the leading newspapers especially, in the Mumbai editions? The ads can be worded very politely and respectfully to highlight the musical contribution of O.P. in Naya Daur. A photograph of O.P. can be featured. At the bottom, we can include paid for by the Fans of O.P. Gajananji, Kaveetaji and others in Mumbai can work together and turn out a creative and yet forceful script. I am willing to pitch in financially. The ads should appear in Bombay/Mumbai papers because all movie moguls live there. May I count on some one to take initiative and get the ball rolling? Let us get even and not just get mad.

    Recently I had to make an unplanned trip to Hyderabad. After taking care of family and personal business, I met Sri. CU Rao and G N Murty in Vijayawada.
    I was so happy to meet them. Hopefully, in my next trip, I can stop over in Mumbai and have the opportunity to meet Kaveetaji and all other Post friends living in that great city.

    Let us get together and make some noise so that the world does not forget Sri. O.P. NAYYAR. GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 13, 2007 @ 4:00 am | Reply

  631. Welcome Krishna Baru Ji. Seen your post after a long time.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — July 13, 2007 @ 9:39 am | Reply

  632. Yesterday I saw the promos of Naya Daur on T.v and the first name that appears is OP Nayyars in the credits. In the function they have ignored Op ji maybe asha wanted that..and gajanan ji, nilofer ji and kaveetaa ji and krishna ji have written to rediff..openly.. But the chopras are giving importance to op ji in regular promos. so it should not look like we are screaming for nothing also.this is just what i think.

    Comment by Krishnan — July 13, 2007 @ 1:49 pm | Reply

  633. It has never ceased to wonder me why a patriotic O P number like ye desh hai veer jawano ka is invariably played by all the band-wallas with much gusto while the groom’s marriage procession marches to the bride’s house. In the last 146 and odd weddings that yours truly must have attended in his life-time, not one can be faulted for not doing so. It is almost like chanting the national anthem in the “mandap” when the occasion calls for something less jingoistic. If you listen to the song carefully, Sahir’s lyrics describe the contours of India that is Bharat and not of Mona, the bride or for that matter even of Sona, the bridesmaid. . Instead of cooing “Mona ! tera kya kehna” the poet chortles “iss desh ka yaaro kya kehna”. He sings of India, its unique heritage and its varied splendours; the valour of its countrymen and the virginal innocence of its maids but amongst all this I didn’t notice the slightest reference to a man on his way to woo the woman he worships..

    Perhaps Sigmund Freud alone could have found a possible explanation to this conundrum. And happily so; as the groom says that if he jumps into the battle-field, he wont be the one to recoil first, that he has a sword which has to get back to its sheath, but I am sure neither O P Nayyar nor Sahir nor B R Chopra ever thought so. So, can anyone really enlighten me why this vigorous patriotic song has been played to its torn shreds in every Indian wedding ?

    Incidentally, while launching the color version of Naya Daur at Marriott hotel, Mr B R Chopra did not make even a passing reference to O P Nayyar . It is common knowledge that Naya Daur did well at the box-office, because of its music, and not because of Mr Chopra .

    Comment by vinod agrawal — July 13, 2007 @ 4:23 pm | Reply

  634. I’ve also sent a protest to the rediff editor criticising the lack of due respect to the music maestro in their report. Certain people might have certain reservations in mentioning OPN’s name at that programme but they (Rediff) should have paid the due respect to OPN from an independant point of view.

    Haven’t read any comment from Shishirji for quite a while!!!

    Comment by Abed — July 13, 2007 @ 5:32 pm | Reply

  635. Very humorous piece of writing by Vinodji. Regarding the unfortunate incident at JW Marriot where OPN was totally ignored, i have only to say…..

    “Whether it’s Suraiyya
    Or Parveen Babi
    Theirs a saga of
    Bollywood’s irony
    You are worshipped
    When in prime
    Later it’s rags-to-
    Riches-to rags time
    And the show goes on
    Unbashedly.”

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 13, 2007 @ 7:10 pm | Reply

  636. Will do so definitely, Kaveetaaji

    Comment by curao — July 13, 2007 @ 7:32 pm | Reply

  637. thnx for remembering me abedji…was too busy to come on the blog…if we see nayyar saheb’s career graph, he started with A grade production houses but landed at B and C graders afterwards…he used to say, OPN doesn’t need any banner as his name itself is a big banner…BR’s naya daur was the only film he got his only FF award for, but didn’t work for this banner again. and the reason is, he was not ready to work with sahir again but BR refused to avoid sahir. according to sahir’s close friend and writer/dir. abrar alvi, sahir was a blunt man who used to openly criticise the MDs. he mocked them saying, today’s MDs need a gramophone machine and a few english records to make tunes. (remember SDB also refused to work with sahir after, if i’m not wrong, pyasa?)…and then came a time when nayyar saheb found himself all alone after he parted ways from asha. and certainly there are some very serious reasons why asha has not uttered a word after his demise…i think asha’s presence was the main reason behind whatever happened during the release of coloured naya daur’s audio…a year back nayyar saheb had said to someone, ‘asha’s voice has lost the charm and she should retire now’…and asha’s reply to his opinion was that within a span of a few months after this she specially organised a show in thane where nayyar saheb was residing in his later days…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 13, 2007 @ 10:49 pm | Reply

  638. ever heard lata singing OPN’s song? pl log on to http://www.indianscreen.com/songs.htm n see song no.4000…many other vv rare OPN songs are also avlbl for free download here…al d best….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 14, 2007 @ 10:06 am | Reply

  639. Krishna ji,

    How wonderful that you were able to meet Cu Rao ji and Murthy ji..It must have been quite a fulfilling experience. I look forward to your visit to Mumbai keenly so that the Mumbai clan can meet you as well.

    It was so magnanimous of you to offer funds for the ad. I have also seen the promos mentioned by Krishnan ji, and atleast on those, O P jis name has been given due credit. AS the others have suggested, the reason why this did not happen at the Launch of the music of naya daur , logically seems probable from what Shishir ji and others have assigned it to. Interference and objection from some individuals. But as Abed ji has rightly pointed out , rediff in its report not according credit to O P ji is inexcusable as well..which we have responded to.

    Friends, I would suggest instead of writing private letters to the Editor, it is important that our objection is in full view on the web. Just below the article on rediff is the comment section, where Gajanan ji, Niloufer ji and I have put in our views in no uncertain terms. If others are so inclined, please do so as well.

    What other measures do you all feel we should take. Please suggest.There must be a consensus on this from all…O.P. Nayyar ji will never be forgotten!!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 14, 2007 @ 10:36 am | Reply

  640. Vinod ji #633 was howlarious!! Rofl..

    Could it be a strident admiration for the valour, courage, fortitude, bravery displayed by the Groom in deciding to embark into the ‘maidaan-e-jung’ of holy matrimony and hence ‘yeh desh hai veer jawaanon ka?’! lol.. No mean task,presumably ..ask any much married male and he will go into a wistful reminiscence of his bachelor days with a deep sigh! So I guess the ‘veer jawaan’ have to be celebrated.. Women are going to hate me for this.

    Please do suggest what should be our Poa to evince dissatisfaction over the disrespect shown to O P ji at the event.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 14, 2007 @ 10:52 am | Reply

  641. Abed ji..where have you been? Nice to hear from you.

    Arun ji.. so true. I think also those who disrespect talent or ignore contributions of a piece of work , expose more their own stinginess of mind and caliber, rather than make a dent to the genius of another..in this case o P ji. His work and its recognition remains undiminished, unchallenged and eternal.

    Shishir ji, Trust you to explain the sequence of events with such clarity and authority. The whole jigsaw falls into place..

    Thanks for the link in #638. It was simply FANTASTIC..What songs!!! Each one is a gem.. Friends judge for yourself. Sad that it is only audio.. should have been video as well.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 14, 2007 @ 11:03 am | Reply

  642. Kaveethaji and others,
    O.P.Nayyar will not be forgotten for more reasons than one, will not be forgotten by many age groups than one.
    In my age group, our liking started with Aarpaar, then Mangu, Choomantar, Musafirkhana, Shrimati 420, Baapre baap etc. The lilt that was there in songs of those films, those singers incl. Geetha and Shamshad, the exhilarating tunes which continued upto and culminated in Tumsa nahin dekha(with a few exceptions) are still remembered by us and often reminisced. Banner and and star value were not of his concern, nor ours, as you can see that most of those films have johny walker as hero or at least one of the leading actors.
    The later films had a diffrent genre of songs which we like too, because by that time we were literally addicted to OP. It may not be the same case with many OPN fans here also, as the belong to a later generation.
    He will be forever remembered

    Comment by curao — July 15, 2007 @ 9:45 am | Reply

  643. Kaveethaji and others,
    (#642)…no doubt OPN was a great singer (n same was sajjad)…but all the big names were annoyed with the attitude and big-mouth they had…in my previous post i wrote this indirectly because sometimes i feel i shud not be so vocal…but now…!
    film making is a team work where rigidness and ego has no place if one wants to work with standards…otherwise one gets thrown at the last place of people’s preference list…(n the proof is, BR preferred SAHIR then and ASHA now)…ultimately one lands among those who could satisfy one’s ego OR whom one can dominate n dictate…cn any polite and attitude/egoless creator (no matter how big he is) throw Rafi n the great sarangi player Pt.Ramnarayan out of the recording room just bcoz they wr late? never, if he has respect for others too…unfortunately this happened here…and such a behaviour leaves ‘one’ all alone after one’s time gets over….on the other side i agree that ‘opn’ was itself a big banner that’s why i’m still in search of more n more his songs….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 15, 2007 @ 10:36 am | Reply

  644. sorry…pl read OPN was a great composer in #643….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 15, 2007 @ 11:24 am | Reply

  645. Shishir Krishna Sharmaji,

    You have been providing wonderful insights to help us understand the behaviour of some leading movie personalities. As Kaveetaji aptly pointed out the jigsaw is in place now. I read some where on internet, O.P.’s comment that Asha now sings but there is no soul in her voice. Undoubtedly, Asha and O.P. were emotionally attached and they were one for both and both for one until she did some thing that caused O.P. to break the relationship. This must have been very painful to both of them.

    The bottom line is that very few of us realize that we are a part of the problems we face in life (because we create them to some extent) and we can be a part of the solution. So much for my personal philosophy.

    Let us sit back and listen to the music of yesteryears and admire the talent behind these marvellous creations.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 15, 2007 @ 4:52 pm | Reply

  646. u r absolutele right krishna baru ji…but the fact is, relationship was broken by asha n not by OPN…apart from many personal reasons there was one purely on proffessional front, and it was, the rise of RDB with hare rama…, and OP’s forthcoming downfall which asha had clearly assumed…n she got the chance to part ways when OPN gave one song to another singer to sing (krishna kalle/pyaar karte ho yaar/taxi driver/1973)…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 15, 2007 @ 6:11 pm | Reply

  647. Mr. Curao,

    Since you like Getta Dutt very much, you must listen to these songs (other than op)and i’m sure you will enjoy it like anything:

    1.Jadoo bhari fizayein kehati hai aa ja dhoom machaayein (Armaan) SD
    2.Bataaon kya karoongi mein jo gham ki raat aayegi with Rafi Ek ke baad ek SD
    3.Kankar kankar se mein poochhon shankar mera kahan hai (Har har mahadev) Avinash Vyas
    4. O bewafa ye to bata luta chaman kyon pyar ka with Kishore (Pyaar) SD
    5. Wo sapne waali raat (Pyaar) SD
    6.Na ye chaand hoga na taare rahengein (Shart) Hemant
    7. Hai ye duniya kaun si ye dil mujhe kya ho gaya (Sailaab) Mukul Roy
    8. Do chamkati aankhon mein ek khawaab sunehera tha (Detective) Mukul Roy
    9. Sataye hue ko sataati hai duniya (Bahar) SD
    10.Meri kashti ko muhabbat ka kinaara mil gaya (Bahaar) SD

    And of course, the last song of SD with Geeta…..Mein tere pyaar mein kya kya na bana dilbar (Ziddi)…. duet with Manna Dey.

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 16, 2007 @ 4:48 pm | Reply

  648. Mr. curao,

    meri kasti ko muhabbat ka kinara mil gaya is from Kamal. sorry!

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 16, 2007 @ 4:54 pm | Reply

  649. Vinod ji please come more often. Kaveetaaji your reply to him was so right. No wonder men get bald after marriage.. hajaamat ho jati hai!!

    Comment by Krishnan — July 16, 2007 @ 6:16 pm | Reply

  650. Ye desh hai veer jawano ka . the song reminds the dulha that , brother , you are a bold man, you must take responsiblity of the family and nation like hand in glove, and not laze around only doing gossip. When you sing the song in a Baraat you get motivated. I have observed once in Bhopal, the dulha was very quiet in the baraat, of course on a ghoda. Many songs were there , the Bhangra etc etc and all dich ku dich ku music. Then there was a commotion about food prepartion for night and then kya dowry hai, kya sari. kya pant hai etc. Then came the uniting song ‘ ye desh hai veer jawano ka ” The whole baraat got transformed. I have seen such an atmosphere in Mumbai , when India won the World Cup. Even that time at wee hrs of the morning this song was sung “ye desh hai veer jawano ka” . All were dancing right from the rich to the slum dwellers and emmbracing each other.

    Coming to baraat, when the song was played , all was forgotten , dowry, kya khana hai, kya pant kya sari etc. The way crowd responded to the song. The dulha could not ride the ghodi , he wanted first to get down and dance with the crowd. Then again , the horse controller , helped him to get down and dance. The horseman also started dancing in his own place with an eye on the ghodi. There were two tamilians one a senior wearing a dhoti and the other his son , wearing a pant in the baraat. The way , both danced to the song. It was oneness all the way during that song and lo behold it was played again. Saints and great leaders have preached oneness and unity in diversity. This song achieved this. It only shows the greatness of OPN as a composer , who could bring this oneness , with all forgetting the worries, prejudices, dowry, kya khana hai etc. July 28th is the half yearly passing away of an extraordinary man. Hope all will remember this unique man , who heralded a Naya Daur in oneness.

    Comment by gajanan — July 17, 2007 @ 4:44 am | Reply

  651. Gajananji,

    No body can write as well as you did on O.P.’s contribution. Ranked by sheer number of hits (especially measured by number of film fare awards and Binaca Geet Mala hits), O.P. may rank below SJ, SD, LP, RD, and Naushad, however the uniqueness of his compositions will last for ever.

    Let us plan some thing big and memorable for O.P.’s first death anniversary.
    You and Kaveeta can lead us. O.P. never lived a recluse life for he has too many friends and fans. Hope the nation would fondly recollect O.P. as Naya Daur colour version is released.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 17, 2007 @ 7:13 am | Reply

  652. It is implausible not to mention O P Nayyar’s role in the music of Naya Daur, specially when it was a music launch. Were they so ignorant of the fact that Naya Daur won the Filmfare award for best music that year
    ? What an unrealistic article with a very bad taste. Shame!
    I have sent these words to Editors of “Rediff.com”

    Comment by Ashraft — July 17, 2007 @ 9:23 am | Reply

  653. We all are having a great time reminiscing about the greatness of O.P’s unforgettable music.Of all his various songs of different categories,I cherish his semiclassical numbers in various movies including Hum saya,Phir wohi..,Kalpana,Raagini and Sambandh.May be some one should write up about all his classical songs discussing various ragas he has used.

    Comment by Subramanian Ramamurthy — July 18, 2007 @ 8:41 am | Reply

  654. well done gajanan ji!

    Krishna baru ji..Good idea about the first death anniversary!! Waiting for responses from the others.

    Ashraft ji..yes its truly exasperating.. also unheard of. How can his contribution be thus marginalised?? After Krishnan ji and Shishir jis comment, answers became available. The hold of the living on the living is stronger since we live in a highly materialistic world. Nonetheless a mirror of debilitated understanding of spiritual norms. Nobody can snatch away anothers glory. ‘Ooper waale ke hazaaron hain haath..kahin na kahin se zariya nikal ata hai”

    Regards
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 18, 2007 @ 12:15 pm | Reply

  655. Welcome Subramaniam ji,

    So nice to hear that reminiscing on O p jis tunes is affording you a pleasurable time. That indeed is the purpose of all of us writing here. Memory of his work to be refreshed and his melodies kept alive as much as his memories. Music is the single most balancing and calming influence in our lives.. his tunes have that effect.

    Your suggestion of someone exploring his classical numbers is great. It will bring to the fore something I had mentioned in the post above that although devoid of classical training, his songs innately had a component of ragas which is tremendous.

    I am sure our versatile list of writers here will come up with answers to this as well.

    Regards
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 18, 2007 @ 12:26 pm | Reply

  656. Here i am trying to give a rough account of Raag based songs created by our favourite musuc-director O P Nayyar:

    1.Rag Pilu: a)kahin aar kahin paar laaga teere nazar(aar-paar) b)almost all the songs of film phagun such as piya piya na laage mora jiya and mein soya ankhiya meeche c)jaaiye aap kahan jaaiengen(mere sanam) d) kaisa jaadoo balam tune dara(12 o’clock). Other good tunes in this raag are badi der bhai(basant-bahar)and banwaari re jeene ka sahara tera naam re(ek phool chaar kaante) both beatifully composed by shankar-jaikishan

    2.Raag Kedar: a)aap yunhi agar humse milte rahe and humko tumhaare isq ne kya kya bana diya(ek musafir ek haseena). Naushaad created a masterpiece on this raag…..bekas pe karam kijiye sarkaare-madina(mughle-azam).

    3.Rag Pahaadi: a) Ishaaron ishaaron mein dil lene waale(kashmir ki kali) b) yehi wo jagah hai yehi wo fizaaein(ye raat phir na aayegi)c) humne to dil ko aapke kadamon mein rakh diya(mere sanam) d) tukde hain mere dil le ye yaar tere aansoon(mere sanam). Naushaad used this raag very effectively in his song awaaz de kahan hai(anmol ghadi) and suhaani raat dhal chuki(dulari).

    4.Raag Kirwani: a) mein pyaar ka raahi hoon(ek musafir ek haseena) b) pukaarta chala hoon mein (mere sanam)c)aankhon se jo utari hai dil mein(phir wohi dil laya hoon). Hemant Kumar created a beauty in this raag….mera dil ye pukaare aaja(nagin).

    5.Raag Bhairavi: a) chal akela chal akela chal akela(sambandh) b) dil ki awaaz bhi sun(humsaaya) c) gareeb jaanker humko na tum mita dena(choomantar). This was the favourite raag of shankar-jaikishan and they created masterpieces like barsaat mein humse mile tum sajan and jiya bekaraar hai(barsaat), ramaiyya vastavaiyya(shree420), mein piya teri tu maane ya na maane(basant bahaar), ai mere dil kahin aur chal(daag), kisi ne apna bana ke mujhko(patita)….the list is endless.

    6.Raag Lalit: tu hai mera prem devta(kalpana). very few songs are there in this raag. one comes to mind is ek shehenshah ne banwa ke haseen tajmahal(leader),the composer was Naushaad.

    7.Raag Jogia: raat bher ka hai mehmaan andhera(sone ki chidiyaan). Vasant Desai composed keh do koi na kare yahan pyaar(gunj uthi shehnai)in this raag

    8.Raag Desh: a) bekasi hud se jab guzar jaaye(kalpana). Jaikishan composed one song in very high octave… aji rooth ker ab kahaan jaaiega(aarzoo). at first lata was reluctant to sing on such a high pitch.

    9. Raag Tilang: a) man mora baawra and chhota sa baalma(ragini). Jaikishan composed sajan sang kaahe neha lagaye(mein nashe mein hoon). it is also in very high pitch.

    10. Raag Yaman:a) pyaar per bas to nahin hai phir bhi(sone ki chidiyaan) b) phir miloge kabhie is baat ka wada ker lo(ye raat phir na aayegi) c) humdum mere maan bhi jaao(mere sanam)d) savere ka sooraj tumhaare liye hai (ek baar muskura do). This was the fav. raag of Roshan. he composed zingi bher nahin bhoolegi wo barsaat ki raat(barsaat ki raat)but his most popular song jo waada kiya wo nibhaana padega (tajmahal)was in pahaadi.Late Dattaram crafted one all time Mukes’s great….aansoo bhari hai ye jeevan ki raahein(parvarish) which is unmatched till date.

    11. RAAG Shivranjini: akeli hoon mein piya aa(sambandh). other good songs in this raag are o mere sanam o mere sanam(sangam), jaane kahan gaye wo din (mera naam joker) and RD Burman created one gem of a song…..mere naina sawan bhaadon, phir bhi mera dil pyaasa(mehbooba).

    12.Gaud S arang: maang ke saath tumhaara(naya daur)..Jaidev’s allalh tero naam is based on this raag(hum dono).

    13.Raag Basant Bahaar: dekho bijlee dole baadal mein(sambandh). Naushad composed man ki been matwaari baje(shabaab).

    14.Raag Nand: roop tera aisa darpan mein na samaaye(ek baar muskura do).on this raag Madan mohan created…..tu jahaan jahaan chalega mera saya saath hoga(mera saaya).

    15.RAAG Bilawal: chaiin se humko kabhie(pran jaaye per vachan na jaaye). S-j’s evergreen eechak dana beechak dana(shree 420) is based on yhis raag.

    mera pyaar wo hai ki (ye raat phir na aayegi)….shades of Bhimpalasi.

    initially OPN fav. raag was piloo but in seventies he switced over to Pahaadi and Yaman kalyaan.

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 18, 2007 @ 7:34 pm | Reply

  657. Thank you Arunji for giving this info on Raagas used by OPN, about many people like are ignorant. You seem to have a prodigal knowledge on these.

    Comment by curao — July 18, 2007 @ 7:54 pm | Reply

  658. Kaveetaa ji,
    I could not find where to post my protest in rediff.com. I rarely open that site, hence my ignorance.

    Comment by curao — July 18, 2007 @ 7:58 pm | Reply

  659. Subramaniam ji.. there you are! An exhaustive answer to your query by Arun ji. I was confident of such a response from our writers. We are so proud to have such prolific well informed writers on Sachiniti.

    Arun ji.. fantastic! Thanks

    Curao ji.. No problems at all. I am quoting the link. Click on it, scroll down to the comment section underneath the article and post your comment. You will have to create a login identity , which is only an email id and user name. Not a round about procedure.

    http://www.rediff.com/movies/2007/jul/10naya.htm

    Regards

    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — July 18, 2007 @ 8:14 pm | Reply

  660. Arunji,
    I have only 3 songs in the list of Geetha songs given by you. Those of Mukul roy and Hemant. I know and heard many of the others long ago, but I dont have them now, especially those of Bahar and the song from kamal.
    Krishna baruji,
    You are very right, about less no. of hits. but to us, they are unique and special. They. act like pep-up pills for me. Awards do not always reflect the true merit in many fields. Examples are: Alfred Hichcock never won an oscar, though he was regarded by many as the best director of all time, so meticulous upto the smallest detail. Ken Rosewall never won a wimbledon, though regarded by most experts of tennis as all time best. He used to beat hands down Rod Laver, who was the only player to win Grand slam twice. Our own Abdul kalam is not nominated for presidency for a 2nd term, though he was the most popular president ever. Pratibha Patil who? Raj kapoor in Jagte raho did not win FF award, though that performance was perhaps the best ever by any Hindi actor. charlie Chaplin was shunted out of Hollywood, though his films were the most liked ones by audince all over the world and by all age groups. Ramanathan Krishnana could not beat Laver in Wimbledon , thoough he had a record of 3:1, till that time against Laver.
    We dont mind that OPN FF record or Binaka record was not as great as that of SJ,SDB and others. We like his songs for some explicable reasons and some inexplicable reasons.

    Comment by curao — July 18, 2007 @ 8:32 pm | Reply

  661. one error in my post 656….dekho bijli dole is from phir wohi dil laya hoon.

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 18, 2007 @ 11:25 pm | Reply

  662. Raag Kalyan — Savera Ka Sooraj Thumhare liye hai—- Kishore , OPN is great form (EBMD) and of course the great Qawali by Roshan , Nigaheee Milana ko jee Chahata hai— in Raag Kalyan Dil Hi to Hai.

    Comment by gajanan — July 19, 2007 @ 4:40 am | Reply

  663. Charlie Chaplin was shunted out of the US itself. He was a leftist and with very attached to cause of equality in society. His views were declared as communist and during the McCarthy era had to leave US due to McCarthysim. He left for Europe and settled down in Switzerland. Yes Charlie Chaplin was very original and an iconoclast extraordinary. He was great admirer of Gandhiji and met him also. Basically if you see, you have to take sides to survive and be recognised. You have to be with a lobby which has good purse culture or be good at muska laganaka to the peers. Then with very little talent , you can make life a success , if you are ambitious. But Akela Ladna, mushkil hai. This lyrics of Sambandh OPN music , Pradeeps lyrics is a testimony to this

    chal akelaa, chal akelaa, chal akelaa
    teraa melaa peechhe chhootaa raahee chal akelaa

    teraa koee saath naa de to, too khud se pareet jod le
    bichhaunaa dharatee ko kar ke, are aakaash odh le
    yahaa pooraa khel abhee jeewan kaa toone kahaa hain khelaa
    ( The last lines)

    Then you have the magical lyrics of Tagore, which echoes Kavi Pradeeps sentiments.

    “Ekla chalo re..” – Rabindranath Tagore

    If they answer not to thy call walk alone,

    If they are afraid and cower mutely facing the wall,

    O thou of evil luck,open thy mind and speak out alone.

    If they turn away, and desert you when crossing the wilderness,

    O thou of evil luck,trample the thorns under thy tread,and along the blood-lined track travel alone

    If they do not hold up the light when the night is troubled with storm,

    O thou of evil luck,with the thunder flame of pain ignite thy own heartand let it burn alone.

    Comment by gajanan — July 19, 2007 @ 8:37 am | Reply

  664. Gajanan,

    Roshan was a master in composing qawaalis…..i agree with your view.The sizzling qawallis of barsaat ki raat set a new form and pattern and with tajmahal and as you mentioned dil hi to hai he acquired the label of a qawaali specialist. Lata held this gifted composer in high esteem. In fact , she assigned him for her first maiden venture in hindi ‘Bhairavi” which unfortunately never saw the light of the day. When Roshan was replaced in ‘Mehbooba’ by OP following the success of Aar- Paar, Lata refused to sing for him on a point of principle. The Lata-OP feud had its genesis in this incident.

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 19, 2007 @ 12:30 pm | Reply

  665. Thank you Arun for your exaustive listing of listing all of O.P’s classical songs.You are really wonderful and the listing of other MDs also is a big help.Now I will enjoy all those songs with further understanding.
    Some of the classical Hindi song tapes and CDs I have do not contain most of the songs you mentioned.
    Even Raju Bharatan could not have done a better job.

    Comment by Subramanian Ramamurthy — July 20, 2007 @ 12:26 am | Reply

  666. Arunji,
    I did see the film Mehbooba in those days. I distinctly remember it having both OP and Roshan as MDs. It would’nt have registered in my memory otherwise. It also has Lata’s songs though composed by Roshan. Pl. dont hesitate to correct me if I am wrong in my memory.
    Gajanaji,
    Very true, Chaplin was shunted out of US itself to Switzerland, after being suspected of communist leanings. In fact, he was neither a communist nor a capitalist or any other -ist. If at all he was a humanist.
    Your quoted verses also remind me of Orson Welles 1941 bold classic “Citizen Kane”, usually regarded as the best film ever from Hollywood, where Welles fought alone with the bigwigs of film industry, political class and big money, for its release. It was a biography of william Randolf Hearst, the media magnate partly, and an autobiography of Welles himself, and potrayed the limitaions of of money, acquired after a ruthless and mindless pursuit.

    Comment by curao — July 22, 2007 @ 7:33 pm | Reply

  667. Mr. Subramaniam,
    While I have awsome respect for Bharatan’s encyclopaedic knowledge on Hindi film music, I cannot but sense a bee in his bonnet against S & J for no reason other than that they composed with a felicity of expression, in uncomplicated notations which appealed directly to the commoner’s heart. All SJ songs are the easiest to be played on banjo, harmonium, guitar etc which again are the layman’s instruments. I am not against classical music but am of the view that the genre of film songs with its time-restraint of 3 minutes cannot do justice with a classical bandish which structurally must have an alaap, mukhda, antara, taan and then tonal exposition.

    It is SJ who transcended the barriers of nation and language when their Awaara hoon and Mera joota hai japani became the signature tunes of India for half the hemisphere . What Ravishankar couldn’t do in sixties, these twosome did with resounding success in fifties. How can you belittle such achievements ?

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 23, 2007 @ 12:08 pm | Reply

  668. mr.curao,

    Roshan composed three or four numbers in Mehbooba…..two comes to my mind…
    aaj humko hai tumse pyaar(lata-talat)and one solo of lata…jo dil ke maalik hain. both are good compositions. i have these songs in my cassette but recording is not good. you can easily distinguish between OPN’s and Roshan’s tune just as you can distinctively mark the difference in Rafi’s voice when he is singing for Shammi Kapoor and then Johny Walker. Nayyar made him sound as though actor himself is singing.

    Comment by arun bajaj — July 23, 2007 @ 12:16 pm | Reply

  669. arunji, roshan had recorded total 4 songs for ‘mehbooba’ while opn recorded 5…’aye jee may ki masti’, ‘baanka wo sanam’, ‘aeji jaanemam'(all shamshad’s solo n ‘aate jaate aankh bachana’ in 2 parts (shamshad, rafi)…similarly for ‘mangu’ opn recorded 4 songs ‘dol mere man pyar se’, ‘bol pardesiya’, ‘man more gaa jhoom ke’ (all asha) n zara pyar karle babu’ (shamshad)while 3 other songs had alrdy bn recorded by mohd.shafi…in ‘baap re baap’ 3 songs wr recrdd by CR n 8 by opn…in ‘sabse bada rupaiya’ 5 wr op’s while 4 wr nashaad’s…’dhake ki malmal’s 7 wr op’s n 1 by robin chatterji’s…and there are record no. of (mxmm) 10 duets of asha, rafi in ‘basant’ out of total 14…ofcourse after aarpaar’s success opn was approached by makers who had alrdy got recorded songs with other MD’s for abovestated films….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 23, 2007 @ 9:31 pm | Reply

  670. Arunji once in Hong Kong , I visited a Chinese temple. As soon as I entered inside the temple, a group of Chinese smiled at me and said ” India” I said “Yes” Then in chorous they said ” Awara Hoon” and one led the singing the whole song with his own prounounciation. I took the team to a corner and sang the lyrics with them leading to laughter and enjoyment. This song is very popular in China and Russia.

    Comment by gajanan — July 24, 2007 @ 6:12 am | Reply

  671. Naya Daur songs ( see it in Black & White, as a tribute for July 28th 07).

    Yeh Desh hai Veer Jawanako

    Ud Jab Jab Zulfe tere ..

    Aana Hai tho

    Comment by gajanan — July 24, 2007 @ 8:27 am | Reply

  672. Soemwhere someone is remembering OPN

    Comment by gajanan — July 25, 2007 @ 11:20 am | Reply

  673. Gajanan ji..enjoyed the links..I went to a mall yesterday n seeing billboards of Naya Daur in this whole totally modern setting made me happy but it also seemed so strange…Kahaan gaye woh log is the first reaction. Those times were different. Peace, simple life and few needs was the trademark. So today in this flashy mall it seemed as if it did not belong there but rather in old type single screen Huge theatres.

    Comment by Krishnan — July 29, 2007 @ 12:43 pm | Reply

  674. O.P.Nayyar was unique as a composer,he followed a more westernised trend while most of the other directors were indian classical music oriented.His music was youthful and stylish,best suited to Shammi kapoor and the like..
    there are so many songs of his that are melodious that it is difficult to choose a few, Asha Bhonsle got her success through his songs
    jaayiye aap kahan…
    Aankhonse jo uthri…
    Yahin woh jagah hai
    chain se hum ko kabhi
    har tukda mere dil to name only some of her melodies under him
    Pukarta chala hoon main
    yeh chand sa roshan chehra
    tumsa nahin dekha
    lakhon hai nigah mein, a few of Rafis
    even Mukesh sang one of his best songs Chal akela chal akela for O.P.Nayyar
    and Kishore Kumar’s songs in Ek Baar Muskurado are considered some of his career best..

    Comment by usha — July 30, 2007 @ 3:13 pm | Reply

  675. Can anyone enlighten me on this?
    Who was the lady star in Bawre nain, on whom together with Raj kapoor the duet “Khayalon me kisike”, a kohinoor in the crown of Roshan, picturised? Was she Peace Kanwal?

    Comment by curao — July 30, 2007 @ 6:22 pm | Reply

  676. definitely this wasn’t peace kanwal as bawre nain was rlsd in 1950 whereas PK’s first film was kardar’s ‘dile nadaan'(1953) with talat mehmood after she won ‘kardar collinos’ contest (other cntstnts here wr chand usmani, anita guha n shubha khote)…later PK acted in kardar’s baraati (1954)with agha n shyam kumar n nanabhai bhatt’s kismat (1956)with ranjan…she is married to ex-president v.v.giri’s grandson v.mahesh n is residing in juhu, mumbai,is busy in social activities n is a renowned painter….so far ‘khayaalon me kisike’ is cncrnd, heroine of ‘bawre nain’ was geetabali n other actresses in this film wr vijayalaxmi, kakku n sharda….i hv sn this film long bk in 70’s on DD but don’t rmmbr whom this song was pctrsd on (with rajkapoor)….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 31, 2007 @ 12:57 pm | Reply

  677. Dear Shishir

    You do indeed appear to have a wealth of knowledge of the film industry due to your close association, but please allow me to make a factual correction in your statement in #646 on the reasons behind the Asha-OP break up.

    Professional – Pyar karte ho yaar was recorded AFTER the cracks had already developed in their relationship. Asha had already pulled the chord by then. It was part of OP’s valiant attempt to take rearguard action to position himself for the future. As you are aware, he tried many others later e.g Dilraj Kaur, Vani Jiaram to name a few, but the magic wasn’t there. I sometimes wonder where the songs of Mangni, Neerajanam ( telegu) would have gone had Asha sung them.

    Personal – A very trustworthy and reliable friend had informed OPN that he had seen Asha with someone (not RD) in a European city coincidentally staying at the same hotel as the informant. OPN still hoped that wasn’t true. However, when he asked her directly, she did not deny it. For somebody who had sacrificed his own family life for this relationship, he was emotionally shattered and blowing the fuse would be an under-statement. Asha walked out that day never to return and since then they could never stand under the same roof again.

    I am sharing this with you only because these facts were given to me by the great man himself, a relationship over the years since 1995. I also have many letters exchanged between them, in this context. These are documented in his biography which I am working on and is about 70% complete.

    But here is a story about the better days….

    OP and Asha are rehearsing for a song and she realises that she has to pick up her daughter. She leaves in a rush and the session is aborted. OP is by himself and creates a few lines which find their way into a Rafi gem later..

    Dilki har baat adhoori hai, adhoori hai abhi
    Apni ek aur mulaqaat zaroori hai abhi

    Chund lamhon ke liye sath ka wadah karlo
    Humse ek aur mulaqaat ka wadah karlo

    Phir miloge kabhi is baat ka waadah karlo

    Like so many times before and after, OP always let the lyricist take the entire credit.

    Keep the OP flame burning, Kaveeta and friends. Please don’t get overly rattled by this coloured Naya Daur fiasco. They did short-change the maestro at the Marriott event, but this does not cause even a small dent on OP’s name and fame. His music is beyond all these trivialities and we know that at heart. Lets put our heads together to work towards a website of OPN to serve as a resource center. Check out Salil Chowdhury’s, Talat Mahmood, Asha Bhosle – even Nadeem-Shravan have one.

    Siraj Khan
    Boston, USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 2, 2007 @ 5:32 am | Reply

  678. siraj sahab, whatever u hv written, i’m aware of, except, the man with asha in ‘europe’ was NOT RD…..i’v already written in one of my previous posts that sometimes i find myself ‘over-vocal’which i must check…..so far ‘pyar karte ho yaar….’ is cncrnd, i never said this was the only reason…how can a single song spoil a long association? i know cracks had alrdy apprd in their rltnshp but this song was one of the ‘last nails’ accrdng to many such people who hv seen opn very closely n hv worked with him…siraj sahab, hv u ever met opn’s dozens of ‘betiyan’ who call him ‘baba’? i’hv met one of them…i’m surprised why the four ‘biological’ children could never call him with this name…please do see nayyar sahab’s foto behind ‘khoon ka badla khoon’s cover…i myself have seen changing him drastically…during our last two meetings he talked of nothing but money…money…compelling me to run away what i did n i took back the ACD containing ‘neerajanam’ n ‘dil tere hawaale’songs which i wanted to present to him….i’m sorry siraj sahab, again i’m getting over-vocal….this is the tip of iceberg…..no doubt OPN was a great composer, i was, am n will remain a fan of ‘composer’OPN……

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 2, 2007 @ 7:47 am | Reply

  679. Dear Shishir

    If you read my message again, you will see that I had stated “(not RD)” precisely for that reason, lest readers may (wrongly) think that it was RD.

    You are spot on about the money part. However, one has to bear in mind that he was surviving on his past glory. He also had serious ego problems and he paid the price for it, both in his professional as well as his personal life. Its interesting if one does a behaviour analysis of any “fankaar” they all seem to have their own quirks. I once took the liberty of commenting to him that he was much too harsh on Rafi for that famous late coming incident, considering that Rafi adored and revered OP. OP in his defence said “you may well be right there but look at my position. I waited days for him to give me a date. When he finally did, 70 people including Asha waited for 2 hours for him in the recording studio on a hot summer day. Rafi finally arrives and has the audacity to tell me that he got held up at a Shankar-Jaikishan recording, which wasn’t even scheduled. And was I then supposed to hug him and shower him with affection?” Well, I managed to extract out of the great man much later that he actually regretted what he had done. There was, of course, only one person who benefitted from all that circus – Mahendra Kapoor. OP again never had any great words for MK, despite the fact that he sang out his heart for OP in many movies in the late 60s. And yet the name of OP Nayyar the composer, that trail-blazer, stands head and shoulders above the others.

    Cheers

    Siraj Khan
    Boston USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 2, 2007 @ 10:45 am | Reply

  680. Kaveetaa ji’s mother has expired.I read it on this post of hers.

    https://sachiniti.wordpress.com/2007/07/21/a-short-gap/

    it is very sad .I read the story and felt as if I knew them and feel for them.A true love story.Kaveetaa ji it seems has not come on the site.. she may be shocked. i pray for her and her mother and family.

    Comment by Krishnan — August 2, 2007 @ 6:30 pm | Reply

  681. You can open the link provided by Krishnanji and record your condolences and provide comfort to Kaveetji.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 3, 2007 @ 6:42 am | Reply

  682. A good Guru or a Ustad is always very disciplined. He imparts effulgence to his juniors or singers or lyricists in this case. I feel OPN acted like a rigorous Guru. There is no doubt in this. One analogy which comes to mind is the top schools in India or USA or matter any country. The Guru is always in a serious mode in these schools. This is the main reason they are top schools or Universities. Now if these Universities or Schools compromise on discipline which leads to high quality output , then they are fit for the dich ku dich ku music or a diplomats job.

    OPN was demanding and rigorous. Yes , He had all the qualities of a good Guru.

    I tried my level best for July 28th for playing OPN’s music. The NRI’s are all hooked to nasal singers and kichi kichi music. I will keep trying. Baharen Phir bhi Aayegi … Hope so.

    Comment by gajanan — August 3, 2007 @ 10:14 am | Reply

  683. Gajananji, please do not paint all NRIs with one brush and one paint. NRIs of my generation still play the music of yesteryears. Recently one of my friends had a dinner party and he played some old movie songs. We had fun guessing the name of the movie, music director, hero and heroine of that movie for each song played. We had a good time.

    I agree with you that OP was a very disciplined person and guru. If he had shown more flexibility and spirit of accommodation realizing that not every body shares his ideas and values. Probably, his family members did not live up to his expectations or OP did not try to understand them.

    Regardless of his personal charactristics and traits, OP was a very talented man but some what different and difficult to understand and get along with.

    I am playing OP’s music everyday. I want to mention a solo of Asha in Sambandh which goes some thing like this “Thumko kitne saal h.., baath o gagan ghambir, is pyari pyari duniya mae kyo alag alag thakdir”. Lyrics are just captivating and music for this number is very moving. Asha did a great job with this song. Unfortunately, this song was not heard much on the radio.

    Does any body care to comment on this song? Thanks.

    Have a pleasant weekend.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 4, 2007 @ 3:56 am | Reply

  684. One of my sentences was incomplete. The completed sentence is as follows:

    If he had shown more flexibility and spirit of accommodation realizing that not every body shares his ideas and values, perhaps, his life would have been less turbulent.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 4, 2007 @ 4:02 am | Reply

  685. right u r….that’s what i always tried to say krishna baruji…..rigidness, ego n dictatorship hv no place in teamwork….n if one does so, gets left alone after one’s time gets over….this is a universal truth……

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 4, 2007 @ 1:03 pm | Reply

  686. I am visiting this site after many days.
    Kaveethaji,
    The first thing is to express my heartfelt condolences to Kaveethaji for her great loss. Kaveethaji, may The paramatma give you solace, He, who is the source of all and the ultimate receiver of all. Still in this world, for us mere humans, the loss of mother is irrepairable and irreplaceable, that makes us orphans at any age and stage of our lives.
    Shishirji, kudos once of again for your mines of knowledge, this time on the question of “Khayalon mein kisike”. I do have a video of that song, but ubfortunately in cassettte. If it is not PK, about whom i have a feeble knowledge from seeing Dil E Nadan, it is also not definitely Geetha bali nor cuckoo, who are easily recognisable. so, it could be sharda whom I never saw or Vijayalakshmi. You meant the same Vijayalakshmi who acted sister to Nargis in “Aah”. Is it not? Yes it could be she. I can confirm this by seeing video of the song, “Suntehi naam hum” in Aah.
    Krisha baruji,
    You summed up the all the murky things in OPN’s life in one sentence very well. My humble opinion is it does not give us, his fans, any pleasure to delve deep into his faults and foibles. Almost every one among great artists of all times and genres have these. No one was a paragon of virtue. The more a genius one was, the more inexplicable things one did.
    Let us enjoy his great creations as an MD, without our minds getting clouded by these unsavoury things. I am only stating the well accepted dictum that the more one knows the less one wonders at, and consequently the less one enjoys it. We can certainly try to know more about the fine intricacies and nuances of his creations which help us to derive unalloyed pleasure and apprecitate them the more.

    Comment by curao — August 5, 2007 @ 8:24 am | Reply

  687. ji curao sahab…it was the same vijaylaxmi who acted in aah (n mahal also)as per my knowledge (i may be wrong as i saw this movie say 30 yrs back)…she was married to prod/dir sohanlal kanwar…i tried to meet her for my column ‘kya bhooloon kya yaad karoon’in sahara samay (hindi)but came to know that she’s no more now…..

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 5, 2007 @ 1:29 pm | Reply

  688. Dear friends,

    This has been one of the most traumatic and turbulent fortnight of my life.Its not even a loss..its as if a part of me has gone forever..I am more dead than I can imagine. But I guess on another level life has to go on and all I pray fervently with folded hands is that my mother finds infinite peace and happiness along with the one she most adoringly worshipped..that is my father.
    After completing the last rites in South Africa have just got back home. Still in the process of attuning myself to the normal routine, processes of life.
    Thank you Curao ji for your message.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — August 14, 2007 @ 5:15 pm | Reply

  689. I’m sorry to hear about your loss Kavitaji. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family at this time. It is a very sad time, and tears are a necessary part of the healing process. May your mom rest in peace now. I will light a candle for you mum, to light the way. Take care of yourself and your family during this difficult time.

    Comment by Hemant — August 14, 2007 @ 9:32 pm | Reply

  690. Kaveetaji , very sorry to hear about your mother leaving her mortal coils and leaving you all to join your father. May God give you all the strength and courage to bear this irreparable loss.

    Comment by gajanan — August 15, 2007 @ 5:59 am | Reply

  691. Dear Kaveetaji, please accept my heartfelt condolences on your bereavement. May God give you the strength to bear the irreparable loss.

    Comment by Keloth Macheendran — August 15, 2007 @ 7:12 am | Reply

  692. Thank you so much for your warm comforting words Hemant ji, Gajanan ji and Keloth ji. Yes tears are necessary, as if to pour out the grief in an effort maybe to rid oneself of the pain. But unfortunately nothing of the sort happens. After a while what empties out are the tears and the pain only internalises. However, we have to carry on with our assigned life and its personal journey.

    Shishir ji it was so sad to learn that Vijayalaxmi ji is no more. She lived close to my home and as a child I remember thinking what a beautiful lady she was.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — August 16, 2007 @ 3:27 pm | Reply

  693. Dear Kaveeta

    My work sometimes takes me to those parts of the world where even electricity is not available, let alone a PC or internet facility. I just found out about your tragic loss.

    Extremely sorry to hear about Mom. We take our parents for granted and only when they are gone we truly realize the vacuum which forms for the rest of our lives. With the prayers of her children, she will find peace wherever she may be. We share your grief.

    Reminds me of Nayyar saheb’s concept of life which had a ripple affect on his music. His songs always had ‘rawaani” (flow). Even the sad songs eg Poocho na hamein hamdam ke liye, badal jaye agar mali etc. That is because nothing is static in life. So even when you are basking under the happiest moments of ones life, one must not forget that a catastrophe may be round the corner and in the same token disappointments and tragedies are soon followed by spiritually uplifting moments. Time, not tears, is the greatest healer.

    Take care,

    Siraj Khan
    Boston, USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 20, 2007 @ 8:41 pm | Reply

  694. KAVEETAJEE.
    I am so sorry to hear about the sad demise of your MOM. I can feel the pain that you have gone thru. May God bless her soul and bless you with the strength and courage to bear this loss.

    Comment by Ashraft — August 21, 2007 @ 8:44 pm | Reply

  695. Siraj Ji thanks.
    The ebb and flow of our life is a never ending cascade of experiences, coupled with a quagmire of conflicting emotions. It will only help us to see the Divine in all things.As humans we lack the power to comprehend the twists and turns that often dodge us. Its consoling to believe there is a hand held in blessing above us ..whether it is that of our parents or the Almighty.

    Ashraft ji,

    Thanks so much for your warm comforting words.

    Regards

    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — August 22, 2007 @ 2:16 pm | Reply

  696. I saw an interview of Lata Mangeshkar recently on a news channel which revealed a side to her personality not so known I think. The guy interviewing her was mas Rajiv Masand who is imo one of the most irritating tv journalists always being so sugary to personalities and tearing apart those not on his show. Anyways lata said that that she takes credit for creating one of the most romantic scenes on Indian cinema with the song ‘ jab pyar kiya to darna kya’. She sang.. thats true. But it was totally a directors and writers achievement. How can a singer take credit for this?
    If Op ji or other Mds like him claim that their music creates a certain feeling it is understandable. Their creative input is there. But a singer can only translate the thought not create. I think this was extremely small on her part. she does not need to find excuses to create history. She already has been respected enough.

    Comment by Krishnan — August 23, 2007 @ 11:39 am | Reply

  697. First of all i am new here. i have never been so impressed with a post and so many comments from such a vast section. Great!
    The above comment got me thinking.Does a singer have the right to take credit for creating the mood and call it the most romantic scene in films? I feel ..No. She has contributed partially but its a team effort.

    Comment by Murli Manohar — August 24, 2007 @ 10:19 am | Reply

  698. welcome murliji…u r absolutely right…i don’t think anyother singer cud create such a great magic, but so far picturisation of the song is concerned, the whole credit goes to the director, dance director, artist n ofcourse to the cameraman n the art director. we cn take an example of ‘pankh hote to udd jaate'(sehra)…this song is really a beautiful one but picturisation…? my personal opinion is, bhagwaan bachaye, though the artist was a great dancer…n i think, this song is comparatively more melodious…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 25, 2007 @ 12:20 am | Reply

  699. welcome murliji…u r absolutely right…what i feel, no other singer cud create such a great magic what lata did…BUT, the singer’s contribution is only till the moment the recording of a song gets okayed…so far picturisation of this particular song is concerned, credit goes to the director, dance director, actor n especially to the art dir. n the cameraman…lata stands nowhere in this list…afterall the same lata has sung comparatively a more melodious song ‘pankh hote to udd jaate’ in ‘sehra’…but what’s the result? bad picturisation of this beautiful song has spoiled the feel of it(this is my personal opinion)…as u said, film making is a team work n director is the captain of the ship…therefore he only is responsible for the positive or negative results…thus, whatever lata said, may be the result of her old age when most of the human-senses becum weak….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 25, 2007 @ 8:36 am | Reply

  700. Welcome Muraliji,

    I would not waste much time on Lata and Asha. These sisters have a big ego problem. Give them some credit for being blessed with talent. Ignore their comments and interviews and just move on. They want to be on the top of the world for ever and want to be treated royally. If they cannot retire gracefully and allow younger talent to come up, eventually society will dump them. After all this life is fleeting.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 26, 2007 @ 10:14 pm | Reply

  701. “Anyways lata said that that she takes credit for creating one of the most romantic scenes on Indian cinema with the song ‘ jab pyar kiya to darna kya”

    “For Jab pyar kiya toh darna kya, lyricist Shakeel Badayuni and Naushad had a brainstorming session in the latter’s bungalow’s terrace that lasted a whole night”

    From
    http://www.rediff.com/movies/2003/feb/15dinesh.htm

    read the first statement, then read the abstract from rediff by Dinesh Raheja.

    Lata has sung this song very well. No doubt about this. From Mumbai to Karachi to Dhaka , London and other places, people still listen to this song.

    But taking credit for the entire song is denying the hard work put by Naushad , Shakeel Badayuni, the director , producer and chereographer , whoever did that song.

    Just taking credit for the entire song is just like a student going from IIT going to Harvard University and saying that he learnt everything at Harvard University. When you ask the student ‘ “Beej ( seeds) Kaun dala re” . He will have to acknowledge the Bheej (seeds). if he does not acknowledge the seeds ( foundation) his supreme ego and pride has taken over making him arrogant. This I have seen in many, which leads to very arrogant behaviour.

    The TV interviewer should have asked Lataji

    ” Paar Lataji , Koyi tho yis Gana ke liye Bheej ( foundations) dala hoga. If she still says ” Foundation , Bheej kuch nahi ji. Yeh saab mujhe Swayam aati hai”. Listeners and readers then should dismiss this as supreme arrogance.

    Comment by gajanan — August 29, 2007 @ 5:50 am | Reply

  702. Thank you friends Shishir, Krishna and Gajanan. Thanks for the response. You have all replied so well. I am glad you all agreed with me. But it really feels bad to think that great artists like Lata and asha so revered and almost worshipped by even the newcomers are Gods with feet of clay. Lata has been modest most of her life atleast in appearance etc that this sudden burst of pomposity does come as a surprise.When the world is forgetting you then maybe you have to now shout to be heard. Maybe this is her thinking today. She should have instead retired gracefully.In the west most artists know when to retire. Better to go when people ask why you have left and not when are you leaving.

    Comment by Murli Manohar — August 31, 2007 @ 6:40 am | Reply

  703. Check this rere OP gem from 12 O’ Clock on youtube.com. Aare Tauba sung by Helen. Other songs from this movie are also posted on Youtube.

    My dad had the 78 speed records from this movie and I remember all songs were really good.

    Comment by Hemant — September 1, 2007 @ 1:09 am | Reply

  704. There were many great music directors of Hindi music. OP Nayyar is certainly one of them. He flourished in the company of Rafi and Asha. His great songs have already been brought to our memory by his fans here. I think the reference to Lataji is unnecessary. No other singer has brought such sweetness and melody to Hindi song as Lataji. Imagine Hindi music without Lataji’s song and you know what I mean. For many of Indians living abroad like me, Taj Mahal and Lata Mangeshkar are India’s best. She is too great for us to comment on her and it is for her peers like Pandit Ravi Shankar who can comment on her. It is for us to remember her eternal songs. As for retirement, she has already retired but for an occasional song. It is not correct to judge her by her current voice which is also good, considering her age. Many of us may not live that long leave alone sing a song. Appreciation of a great composer need not turn into a depreciation of other legends like Lataji, Ashaji, Rafi Saab and Kishoreda. Hope some of the readers will agree.

    Comment by V.S.S.SARMA — September 2, 2007 @ 6:10 am | Reply

  705. Dear Mr.Sharma

    I understand your point.Hindi film music is a big tent with place for everybody.
    Nobody is a complete angel or devil.There is a mixture of both in everybody.
    OP and Lata were great in their own ways.It is a pity the did not get a chance to work together for whatever reason.
    There is a certain amount of arrogance in every genous.
    Like you I also have lived outside India for more than 30 years.I appreciate all types of good music.
    My choice depends upon my mood.
    Let us use this forum to indulge in and enjoy the great works of Shsi O.P.Nayyar

    Comment by Ramamurthy — September 3, 2007 @ 1:40 am | Reply

  706. Since it was me who brought the news of what I consider lata jis unfairness let me explain my viewpoint.
    Lata has been worshipped by us Indians for over half a decade. We have given her all the honor, adulation possible that a country can give a singer. is that not true. It is not as if she has been ignored or her achievements by passed. So when those like Her and her sister Asha Bhonsle behave in a manner not expected from them then those who have worshipped her can also question her speech. Public figures have to be ready for both. They cannot expect only bouquets and brickbats are left for non entities.
    I think what lata said on the show was unnecessary and not my highlighting it. A singer of her stature cannot ignore the contributions of MDs, directors and writers. A singer only follows instructions.
    This is a forum of music lovers. Just like you cannot separate quenching of thirst from water, so one cannot divide a stream of music in its whole. The musicians are only particles of that stream.

    Comment by Krishnan — September 3, 2007 @ 6:22 am | Reply

  707. Dear Sarmaji,

    I agree with your comments on Lata to some extent. God gave her good talent but she did not realize that firstly, she is a human being and that she needs to show modesty and acknowledge the fact that the MDs, song writers, musicians, and recording staff played a role in bringing the finished products, I mean the musical compositions to the society. She and later, her sister Asha minimized the role of other supporting team members. If Lata and Asha were to regularly mention the great lyricists, and MDs and fondly recollect their association with them, the public would definitely hold the sisters in higher esteem. Both the sisters talk as though the MDs and the song writers are nothing and only their voices are the single contributing factor in the success of their compositions. In respect to Taj Mahal, you did not mention the MD’s name, the great Roshan who was a genius to compose such gems. Personally, I feel if Lata and Asha did not exist, the great MDs: O.P., SD, Naushad, CR, LP, and SJ, would have worked with other singers and would have attained the dizzying heights they had attained. Lata was so unyielding in her dealings that finally SJ managed without her for a complete movie and yet turned out super hit songs. The movie was Mera Naam Joker.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — September 3, 2007 @ 8:47 pm | Reply

  708. Dear Hemantji,

    Thanks for sharing the link. For the first time, I listened to the song “Aare Tauba” from the movie 12 O’ Clock. This is a good composition. You haven’t been heard much on this site. Drop in regularly and stay in touch.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — September 3, 2007 @ 8:52 pm | Reply

  709. Hello friends.. I have been out of touch for quite a long time. i was on a vacation where there was no internet. was waiting to write back. What i wanted to tell you all was about a programme I saw on tv where a young girl was spoken about. This girl has been in a cot till age 12 since a part of her brain was dead. so she could not speak and was considered mentally unfit. since she only responded to music her mother always played her songs. she listened very keenly and was at peace then. ..one day the tape playing ‘ae memre watan ke logon’ stopped playing. .and suddenly she began to sing that song. her family was astonished. ever since then they encouraged her to sing. She is now 19 and has finally learnt to walk. She sang on Tv and while she could not answer other questions since her iq is only 20, any thing related to songs she answered. she spoke to anu malik and himesh reshamiya and abhijeet and knew all their songs. then another song was played and they asked her who sang it. she said Daler mehendi. It was so surprising. Misic surely is a healer and has a power of its own. I cannot forget this interview with that child. Has anybody else seen that interview?

    Comment by Niloufer — September 16, 2007 @ 3:31 pm | Reply

  710. Hi Niloufer..yes incidentally I have seen the programme you mention. I was really touched as well at the miraculous cure of this child. It was so heartening to hear her story and her journey from a comatose person to one today who is up and about singing away to her hearts content. Miracles never cease.. I am so happy for the mother who could not stop smiling.

    On reading a little found this link which attempts to explain this phenomenon.Quite astounding really! No wonder we here go so crazy about OP jis melodies and those of other geniuses as well.

    http://english.pravda.ru/science/health/76536-1/

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — September 17, 2007 @ 9:50 am | Reply

  711. OPN Sir,
    I had listen the song Nigahen Milano Ko Jee Chahata hai in 1999 in Delhi Darbar, Boca Raton, Florida, USA. Since then I have been searching for the details of this song, I found the same of the movie and now am searching for MP3 version of this song

    Comment by Shyamdhar Pandey — September 18, 2007 @ 12:27 am | Reply

  712. Mr Shyamdhar Pandey i dont know whether to pity you or get terribly annoyed at your ridiculous comment. O.P. Nayyar ji is no more and we here have paid a tribute to him in our unique ways by keeping his memories and melodies alive through this wonderful platform at Sachiniti.You have not bothered even to read the post or the comments.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — September 18, 2007 @ 9:06 am | Reply

  713. shyamdhar ji, you have dissapointed all of us.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — September 18, 2007 @ 3:01 pm | Reply

  714. This is a painfully oft occurring phenomenon of the web world when the written word is not given its due focus. Oftentimes people dont care to read and then sometimes proceed to comment. In this case, its bad enough that Mr. Shyamdhar did not think it right to read a single word of the post or the comments but he is woefully ignorant of the demise of such a great musician. Sorry to ask but which world are you living in Shyamdhar ji?

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — September 18, 2007 @ 4:19 pm | Reply

  715. Shyamdharji,

    We would like to welcome you to this site. For what ever reason, it appears you haven’t been in touch with the recent events including the demise of our beloved and much respected music maestro O.P. No harm done.

    Please take time to read this site and get to know many O.P. fans who visit this site very frequently. I would like to welcome you again. Please stay in touch.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — September 18, 2007 @ 5:25 pm | Reply

  716. pandeyji, after reading above posts u mast hv learnt that nayyar sahab is no more now…so far ‘nigaahein milane ko jee chahta hai’ is concerned,this song was composed by ROSHAN n NOT OPN….(film dil hi to hai / 1963 / lyrics-sahir ludhiyanvi / sung by asha n corus)…audio cd’s n cassettes (even LP’s) of this film r easily available at all the music stores……

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — September 18, 2007 @ 9:19 pm | Reply

  717. Hello friends and co-fans of the great OPN, It has been quite some time since i posted in this thread. I was somewhat preoccupied with my preparations, old age problems, jet lag on my journey to USA, where I am at present.
    On one of these days, I happened to see on a TV show, the remastered version and dance for the song “Mera naam chin chin chu”. The drums and other instruments were so dominating and and the vocal so muted, that I could hardly recognise the song. Have the tastes of people really so changed as to prefer this modern version to the original one so perfectly composed and so excitedly sung by that golden Geetha? The original appears to me so more laudable now when I compare with the recent version.
    Does any one has the Mujrim song ” Oh karke pyar pyar pyar” by Asha? I will be grateful if some one sends me that song in mp3 form.
    After Collecting so many audio songs of OPN(not exhaustive certainly, but as many as I could in a no. of years), i am now trying to collect his songs in video. I found that multimedia players(though still expensive) of palm size are availbale in USA, in which you can load audio, video, photos etc. I need a software to convert, and extract songs from a DVD. I am finding this task to be very difficult.

    Comment by curao — September 19, 2007 @ 7:00 am | Reply

  718. Curaoji,

    I have the song from the movie “Mujrim” that you are looking for. I have it on a video casesette. We will see if we can convert it the format of your choice when we meet.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — September 19, 2007 @ 8:26 am | Reply

  719. Namaste Curaoji, welcome back.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — September 19, 2007 @ 1:26 pm | Reply

  720. Welcome to the US Craoji!
    I couldn’t find the music cd of the movie “Zid” for you so I bought the dvd. Please let me know your address and I’ll mail it to you.

    I want to caution you to turn the video/picture on the TV off when you listen to the songs.

    Comment by Hemant — September 20, 2007 @ 10:15 pm | Reply

  721. Krishnaji,
    I agree I’ve not commented on this site much lately. but I’ve been listening to and singing OP’s tunes everyday and have been visiting this site quite often.

    Btw, I’m looking for the song “Jinhe ho pyar saman” from OP’s Taxi Driver, if anybody has it. I can hear it on rhapsody.com but can’t download it.
    Thanks.

    Comment by Hemant — September 20, 2007 @ 10:29 pm | Reply

  722. Krishnaji,
    I agree I’ve not commented on this site much lately. but I’ve been listening to and singing OP’s tunes everyday and have been visiting this site quite often.

    Btw, I’m looking for the song “Jinhe ho pyar saman” from OP’s Taxi Driver, if anybody has it. I can hear it on rhapsody.com but can’t download it.

    Comment by Hemant — September 20, 2007 @ 10:30 pm | Reply

  723. hemantji, do u need audio or video of this song? i hv audio cd of Taxi Driver….if u need i can send u a copy but don’t know how to load it….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — September 21, 2007 @ 7:04 am | Reply

  724. Shishir sahab,
    Thanks-a-ton. I really appreciate it.
    I’m looking for the audio songs. Can we can discuss this thru email? My email address is bhemant@yahoo.com.
    Thanks again.

    Comment by Hemant — September 21, 2007 @ 6:43 pm | Reply

  725. hemantji, msg sent to ur e-mail adrss has bounced back……cn u pl send ur addrss on my gmail a/c? i’ll send taxi driver thru courier….

    taxi driver Inbox
    shishir sharma Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 10:45 PM
    To: bhemant@yahoo.com.
    Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original
    hemant saheb, please send ur mailing address, i’ll send the copy of
    this ACD…thnx…

    Mail Delivery Subsystem Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 10:45 PM
    To: shishirkksharma@gmail.com
    Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original
    This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

    Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    bhemant@yahoo.com.

    Technical details of permanent failure:
    PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 13): 550 relaying denied for

    —– Original message —–

    Received: by 10.86.89.4 with SMTP id m4mr2430234fgb.1190394952071;
    Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:15:52 -0700 (PDT)
    Received: by 10.86.33.13 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:15:51 -0700 (PDT)
    Message-ID:
    Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:45:51 +0530
    From: “shishir sharma”
    To: bhemant@yahoo.com.
    Subject: taxi driver
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Content-Disposition: inline

    hemant saheb, please send ur mailing address, i’ll send the copy of
    this ACD…thnx…

    —– End of message —–

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — September 22, 2007 @ 5:27 pm | Reply

  726. Dev Saab ka Birthday is coming. Spirit and Flesh both are in great form in this man. ” Khawab o thum ya koyi Haqeqat….. ” OPN and Dev Saab films full list phesh kiya jai. September 26th , Many Happy returns of the day.

    Comment by gajanan — September 23, 2007 @ 11:36 am | Reply

  727. Gajanan ji.. Thanks for reminding us ..Dev Anand is truly unique. His contiguous ‘never-say-die’ attitude is inspiring. He has dedicated his life to films. Whether we agree with his last few or not is more or less immaterial when it comes to him. The sheer tenacity of his will is what is mind boggling. His most successful pairing with his younger brother Vijay Anand has given Indian cinema classics which we can indeed cherish like “Guide’ and ‘tere mere sapne’.

    The songs he has had the good fortune to enact are those which fill you with such pleasant sensations. ‘dil ka bhanwar’, ‘tere mere sapne’, songs from teen deviyan’
    and ofcourse I think what epitomises his life and is a lesson to all of us ‘ main zindagi ka saath nibhaata chala gaya..har fikr ko dhuyen me udaata….”

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — September 24, 2007 @ 12:09 pm | Reply

  728. Sorry friends, my intension would never be to hurt the feelings of the fans of respected OPN Sir. I was not aware of this site, while nevigating in serch of the availability of the song Nigahen Milane Ko in MP3, I came across this location.

    Comment by Shyamdhar Pandey — September 24, 2007 @ 4:36 pm | Reply

  729. Shyamdhar ji.. We welcome you in our family.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — September 24, 2007 @ 9:30 pm | Reply

  730. Friends..I have often read here of problems faced for transferring tapes on to mp3. Amit Agarwal the indispensable blogger with his tremendously informative site Digital Information gives us a tip to do just that http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/06/convert-audio-cassette-tapes-to-mp3.html

    Hope this will be of help. In fact you must read up there for tips on anything under the sun to do with computers . For us here the information on youtube and music is enlightening. Do check that out as well for any queries you might have.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — September 27, 2007 @ 11:24 am | Reply

  731. Even PM MMSingh said these famous lines ” Mai Zindagi ka Saath Nibhatha chala gaya” while launching Dev Saab’s book.

    His song Acchaji mai har… with Madhubala, (what a smile) in Kala Pani and his return in words “dil jalao na” makes me even sing now. Rafi is just superb.

    What romance, kya style. and what sophistication

    Dev Saab won the Filmfare award in 1958 for best actor.

    Comment by gajanan — September 29, 2007 @ 7:35 am | Reply

  732. Todays TOI reported about the legal war waging between music director Ravi and hi son Ajay Sharma over an amount of 34 lakhs which Ravi alleges is owed to him for some work done quite a few years ago. Ravi ji is now 80 and it is surprising and tragic that resorting to courts has been the only recourse. What a disappointing end for such a talented musician. After O P ji another case of family feud. Where has love gone..as they say.

    I was trying to find the link from TOI..but could not. Will look for it again.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — October 1, 2007 @ 7:02 pm | Reply

  733. Gajananji,
    your recalling achchaji mai hari has thrilled me and brought back memories of the time I first heard it. I still love that song and reckon it as among the best of SDB. you know, my first thought about it? I being a fan of OPN, I thought, ” oh my God! what a song? This is surely going to be the top hit of the year. Nayyar has no chance of beating that utterly sweet feather lite melody” I was a bit surprised later that it did not becomea hit. Why, i DO NOT KNOW, but still I love it as much as in those days

    Comment by curao — October 2, 2007 @ 9:56 am | Reply

  734. Hello Friends

    You are aware that I have more than once suggested that we develop a website for OP Nayyar. That is the least we can do for the great man. If I had the technical expertise we would be having a functional website but alas!

    For those of us who are also lyrically inclined, here is something for you to check out. The relationship between poet/lyricist Qamar Jalalabadi and OPN is a very interesting one which lasted more than 40 years, until Qamar Saab’s death in 2003. In the interim came a cascade of songs starting with Mera Naam Chin Chin Choo. Check out http://www.qamarjalalabadi.com

    On the website is a unique and rare video, a collector’s item. Let me know what you think.

    Siraj Khan
    Boston, USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — October 6, 2007 @ 11:47 am | Reply

  735. I’m looking for songs from Mangni? Can anybody email it to me? Thanks.

    Comment by Hemant — October 8, 2007 @ 8:17 pm | Reply

  736. same here…i’m desperately looking for ‘mangni’ songs…thnx in advance…

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 8, 2007 @ 10:12 pm | Reply

  737. Thank you Siraj Sahab, I have seen the rare video and it is very nice.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — October 9, 2007 @ 9:47 am | Reply

  738. Dear Hemantji and Shishirji,

    Please log into rediffmail.com with user id “murty123” and password “abcd123” where I have attached the MANGNI songs. You can copy it on your computer.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — October 9, 2007 @ 10:21 am | Reply

  739. Thanks Murtyji,

    Unfortunately the log-in and password you provided did not work.

    The log-in and password that you had provided me several months ago(murtyabcd, abcd123) works but Mangni songs are not in there. I’ve used that log-in to access songs from “jane mehbob” and I have even posted Nischay songs on it. Can you please check into this let me know where you’ve posted Mangni songs.
    Thanks again.

    Comment by Hemant — October 9, 2007 @ 7:18 pm | Reply

  740. I am really sorry, I have used this for Jane Meheboob not Mangni. I was confused. Once again sorry.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — October 9, 2007 @ 7:30 pm | Reply

  741. ji murtyji…i also tried but failed…pl see…thnx

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 9, 2007 @ 9:02 pm | Reply

  742. murtyji, hemantji, i hv all cid-909 songs n 4 aasmaan songs in mp3 format…pl guide how cn i upload these in murtyabcd, abcd123…thnx

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 9, 2007 @ 10:07 pm | Reply

  743. Shishirji,
    On rediff email, click on “Write Mail.”

    Then Send to: Murtyabcd@rediff.com

    And click “Attachments” for attaching the mp3 song files. Finally send it.

    Comment by Hemant — October 9, 2007 @ 10:39 pm | Reply

  744. murtyji n hemantji, thnx for providing jaane mehboob songs…though i hv audio cassette of this film yet got these songs in acd now…thnx once again…

    murtyji, the song ‘kitaabe ishq ka parhna…’ seems incomplete at the end…cn u pl load the complete version once again? thnx…

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 10, 2007 @ 6:19 am | Reply

  745. hemantji thnx for ur guidence…i hv learnt something new, hv loaded cid-909 n aasmaan…pl check…
    is it true, only mp3 format cn be loaded n not audio cd’s (something called wav file)? as i hv complete soundtracks of around 50 opn films (BUT) in LP records n acd’s, i can’t load these due to lack of technical knowledge…pl guide…thnx

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 10, 2007 @ 6:50 am | Reply

  746. Shishir sahab,
    You can upload/attach wav files too but that may take longer time since wav files are about 10 times larger than mp3 format.

    I’m not sure if attaching files on rediff site is most efficient. There might be better sites out there.

    Craoji is the the tech savvy/technical expert on these matters. Craoji, can you provide some insight into uploading to other sites and transfering from LPs to digital format?

    Comment by Hemant — October 10, 2007 @ 6:54 pm | Reply

  747. Hemantji and Shishirji,

    I am sorry, actually I have attached “Jaane Meheboob” songs in the mail id and I was confused with “Mangni” songs. However I am trying for Mangni songs and I will upload the same as soon as I get.

    Once again sorry.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — October 10, 2007 @ 7:55 pm | Reply

  748. Hello Siraj Khan and other friends,

    Thanks to Sirajji for sharing the link on Qamar Jalalabadi. I couldn’t open the video on Qamar, O.P., and Asha. However, the Web site on Qamar has been designed well. I fully agree with Siraj that we need to work on a Web site dedicated to O.P. I have voiced a similar opinion in the past however, I am disappointed that this idea hasn’t gone any further.

    We claim we are fans of O.P. We want to augment our collection of his compositions and we remember him and enjoy his compositions day after day but how it is that none of us want to take initiative to work on a Web site dedicated to his memory.

    I have found out that an average site would cost about $600. For my part, I am ready to donate atleast $500 for a site dedicated to O.P. The final total cost would depend on how complex we want the site to be. The site could include a number of pictures and a few video links. Most of this material has to come from folks in Bombay and other parts of India. I personally feel some one living in Bombay would be the best person to lead this project. If that person wants reasonable compensation for his/her efforts, we can consider it.

    There are many tech experts in India who would be eager to take up this responsibility.

    Can we have a discussion and start this project soon. It will be nice if we can have a web site in place by January, 2008.

    Waiting for your responses. Thanks for reading this letter.

    Krishna Baru

    krbaru@hotmail.com

    Address: 30 CHISWICK CIRCLE
    BLOOMINGTON, IL. 61704 U.S.A.

    PH: Res: 309-662-5096

    Cell: 309-282-3058

    Comment by Krishna Baru — October 11, 2007 @ 7:39 am | Reply

  749. murtyji, eagerly awaiting ‘mangni’ songs…pl upload at ur earliest…jaanemehboob’s ‘kitaab ishq…’ is missing a few lines at the end so if u cn, pl load this song once again, shall be grateful…i’v loaded all cid-909 n 4 aasmaan songs…trying to convert all my collection into mp3 format n once i do, shall load all…all friends cn get these songs from ‘murtyabcd@rediffmail.com’ (password abcd123)n also cn load the songs they hv at the same…cn anybody provide ‘tu hi mera dil….’ (peenaz masani)n ‘magic of ashok khosla’ n oblige? thnx in advance….

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 11, 2007 @ 12:23 pm | Reply

  750. Friends,

    I welcome the idea of a website dedicated to Sh O.P. Nayyar. However I must point out it is a task easier said than done. Monies have to be regularly pumped in. $600 is NOT a one time fee. Annually it will need to be re purchased. Money is only a tool that too perhaps a quarter of the rest. As always I think some of us are of the opinion that money can buy everything.

    What is also disturbing is the complete silence on the part of O P. Nayyars family on the subject despite the fact that they have visited here often. It is in their interest as well. How can the onus be on fans only? The family one hears has set up various offices, where they can raise funds. Why is not dispensation of those funds and involvement for this site not a priority with them? Material for the site will have to be made available from them.. as in photographs, etc. Will they come in only when the site is complete? I am uncomfortable with the idea of free loaders.

    I am of the nature of speaking my mind. I cannot beat around the bush. Sorry if I have hurt anybody’s sentiments.

    Regards
    Jatin

    Comment by Jatin Lall — October 11, 2007 @ 1:34 pm | Reply

  751. what family r u talking about jatinji? op’s family comprises of his widow, 3 unmarried daughters n 1 unmarried son all in their 50’s…it is said that they sell homemade cakes for livelihood…they hv gracefully cut off themselves from outer world n hv never visited here…n if u r talking about those who call opn ‘baba’, then it’s not worthtalking as these ‘baba-calling’ chidren only r responsible for whatever happened with ‘baba’ in later age…it’s really hard for me to resist from laughing when i see someone calling opn ‘baba’ affectionately…ha ha ha…

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 11, 2007 @ 2:30 pm | Reply

  752. Shishir ji ..Yes indeed I was referring to his ‘adopted’ family.

    Tragic to hear about the predicament his wife and children are forced to undergo. May Almighty bestow them with His Immense Grace.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — October 11, 2007 @ 4:51 pm | Reply

  753. Shishirji,

    Thanks for enlightening us on the current conditions of OP’s biological children. I did not know that Mrs. Nayar and Children are living from hand to mouth. In this case, it makes sense to establish contacts with the biological family through some intermediaries and help them to help themselves. Let us forget about the Web site and see if we can work with the family.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — October 12, 2007 @ 6:24 am | Reply

  754. baru sahab, v can’t say his family is living in hand to mouth conditions or they r penniless. but the joy n zeal has gone from their lives…i’v tried my hard but failed to meet them…u must be aware that his widow is ‘preetam aan milo…’ famed lyricist saroj mohini nayyar…her nephew who also is a music dir.is a good friend but he even failed to convince them…they r content with what they hv, they don’t want to meet outsiders n don’t want to go back to those painful memories…so in my opinion, it’s better to forget them n let them live peacefully….

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 12, 2007 @ 7:09 am | Reply

  755. Shishirkksharmaji,

    Thanks for your prompt reply. I guess we will have to respect the family’s wishes and leave them alone. May God give them strength and inner peace to stay together and overcome the past pain and agony. However, please stay in touch with friends and relatives of Mrs. Nayar and if there is something we can do for them in the future, please do not hesitate to coordinate the efforts.

    Thanks again. Does this mean we are back to the topic of creating a web site for O.P.?

    Comment by Krishna Baru — October 12, 2007 @ 9:09 am | Reply

  756. Shishirji, who is her nephew? which you referred in your post 753?

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — October 12, 2007 @ 10:07 am | Reply

  757. murtyji he is jaidev kumar who has composed for many albums n a few panjabi films…his mother is mrs. nayyar’s sister…

    pl let me know murtyji, when shall we get mangni songs? am continuously checking ‘murtyabcd@rediffmail.com’ (password abcd123)but hvn’t found these songs yet…

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 12, 2007 @ 11:24 am | Reply

  758. Shishirji,

    thanx for prompt reply. I will take few more days. Please give me your email id if possible.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — October 12, 2007 @ 4:48 pm | Reply

  759. murtyji, my e-mail id is shishirkksharma@gmail.com….eagerly waiting… thnx….

    Comment by shishirkksharma — October 12, 2007 @ 7:29 pm | Reply

  760. It was so sad to hear that Meera Burman wife of S.D. Burman died in an old age home in Pune all alone. After the demise of her husband and then her son RD maybe there was no one to look after her. Asha did not look after RD what could be expected from her toward her mother in law. Life is so unpredictable. At one time she must have enjoyed all luxuries since SD belonged to the royal house of Burma but she dies in such a sorry state.

    Comment by Krishnan — October 17, 2007 @ 12:13 am | Reply

  761. Krishnanji,

    I just cannot find words to adequately express how sad I am to hear the demise of Meera Burman. It appears no one was there to take care of her in her old age. When I shared this sad development with my wife and told her that I am amazed at Asha Bhonsle’s (or Asha Burman) neglect of her mother-in-law, my wife replied that Asha was married to RD for only a short time and therefore, she might not have felt obligated to take care of her mother-in-law. I guess this could be one explanation. After Asha, the person that comes to my mind is Devanand. All in the filmdom know how close were Devanand and SD. It is hard to believe that Devanand could not do anything for SD’s family after SD’s demise.

    This world is crazy. Other than our parents, I wonder how many of our friends and relatives choose to stand by us in our hour of need and especially, old age.

    I will remember Smt. Meera Burman in my prayers and may her soul rest in peace. I enjoy SD’s compositions. He was a marvellous and talented music director. For me O.P. was number 1 and SD number 2.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — October 19, 2007 @ 6:56 pm | Reply

  762. Yes krishna ji.her living in an old age home itself indicates he level of her loneliness. To die last after her husband and son must have been such a torture. She was a great singer herself and S.D. Burman met her on an occasion where she was singing. She was recently felicitated by the tripura Govt..I think..but I wonder if she was coherent enough. Old age and that too alone is a tapasya in itself. May God grant her Peace!

    Comment by Krishnan — October 20, 2007 @ 3:09 pm | Reply

  763. Krishnanji and all others,

    I did not respond to Krisnanji’s letter immediately as I wanted to wait for others to jump in and pay their tributes to SD and his spouse. However, I am dismayed at the level (or lack) of participation on part of folks visiting this site. On the other day some body mentioned it to me that we are approaching SD’s death anniversary. If it’s so, we should review SD’s accomplishments and remember him and his family.

    By the by I recently got hold of the Video cassette of RAGNI. I was a kid (probably 12 years old) when the movie was released. For some reason, my family did not care to see Ragni. I just enjoyed the songs on my Radio. My favorite song from this movie is Piya Main hu patang, thoo dor by Kishore and Asha. I would rank Ragni songs on par with other hits such as those from Navrang, Paying Guest, CID, Chori Chori and so on.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — October 25, 2007 @ 5:09 pm | Reply

  764. Krishna ji i fully endorse your views. I am disappointed as well. Few days back I had written to Kaveetaa ji asking for suggestions on a write up of women behind successful men who are less talked about. That is when she wrote to me of Meera Burman and her demise which I included here. I am sorry to see that none bothered to leave a comment. Maybe they just did not know what to write. We should have a commemoration fo S.D. Burman. He is unforgettable.

    Comment by Krishnan — October 25, 2007 @ 6:53 pm | Reply

  765. Oct 31st is the death anniversary of shri s d burman.. He died in 1975.

    Comment by Krishnan — October 26, 2007 @ 12:47 am | Reply

  766. Friends O P Nayyar ji through his body of work is being paid homage at the International Film Festival (IFFI) to be held in Goa next month.. thats great news!! Here is the link:

    http://www.glamsham.com/movies/scoops/07/oct/26_o_p_nayyar_k_k_mahajan_vijay_anand_tapan_sinha_100710.asp

    On 31st I will be writing a tribute for S.D.Burman , a maestro who deserves to be immortalised as well.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — October 27, 2007 @ 1:12 pm | Reply

  767. KAVEETA JI,
    I MET ONCE OP NAYYER SAHEB IN 1982, WHEN HE WAS WAITING FOR A TAXI NEAR TO HIS HOUSE ‘SHARDA’ . I SHOCKED TO SEE HIM IN SUCH SITUATION BECAUSE IN HIS GOOD DAYS HE USED TO TRAVEL IN HIS WHITE AC CAR INWHITE ATTIRE.
    SO MANY TIMES I WEPT FOR HIM AND FOR HIS GREAT MUSIC .HIS SONG ”AANCHAL ME SAJALENA KALIYA JULFON ME SITARE BHAR LENA AISE HI KABHI JAB SHAM DHALE YAAD HUME BHI KAR LENA ‘COMPELL TO WEPT ME SEVERALTIMES.
    THOUG HE WAS NOTING TO ME BUT THERE IS A UNSEEN RELATION BETWEEN US .HE WILL REMAIN IN MY MEMORIES FOR EVER

    Comment by ASHOK JOSHI — October 30, 2007 @ 8:03 am | Reply

  768. Ashok Joshi ji..welcome.

    I simply love the song you have mentioned too. It ives me goose pimples even now..Today is there somebody else who can compose like that? and he used to write also..like the first two lines ‘phir miloge kabhi is baat ka vada kar lo’ have been written by him..i think he must have written this song u have mentioned as well. Maybe Hemant ji and shishir ji, and other gyaanis we have here can tell us..lol

    Comment by Niloufer — October 30, 2007 @ 4:20 pm | Reply

  769. Ashok sahab,
    That song Aanchal mey sajale is a classic – so soft and melodious. It’s a master piece. Mehamood had a few line of that song played in the background in one of his movies – Podosan? Mahmood liked that song.

    I feel the same way you do Ashokji about your relationship with Nayyar. Listening to his songs reminds me of not the movie or the actors, but just him. That’s because he was such a wonderful composer, a great personality, and a very “Rangila Admi.” It’s his tunes, the way he composed it, the instruments he used, etc. Besides what built the relationship for me was that he was so accessible – I just looked up in the phone book and dialed his number and he talked to me and called me over to see his recording (in the mid 1970s).

    The first two lines of the song “phir miloge kabhi is baat” were penned down by Nayyar sahab himself when in the midst of rehearsal; Asha had to leave to pick up her kid from school or somewhere.

    Comment by Hemant — October 30, 2007 @ 10:01 pm | Reply

  770. Post 767 . Ashokji
    You wept , that is called oneness. When you feel one with words and music, you emotionally express it thru tears, joy tears or even innocent laughter sometimes which makes child like noises. This oneness is missing now in Hindi film lyrics. Lyrics are the forte of songs. For example Shailendra and Sahir’s lyrics are immortal.

    OP Nayyar also had good lyrics written for him and with his genius he could mould it very well. For example Mahendra Kapoor cannot be compared in quality of melody and controlled emotion to Rafi but OPN made him sing ” Thumare Chahane wala Khuda ki duniya me and then lo behold MKapoor when he sings the lines

    “tumhAre husn kI tArIf AInA bhI kare to mai.n tumhArI qasam hai ke to.D dU.N usako” Lyrics SS Bihari and the brilliant use of Sitar by OPN , brings the best out of even MK. If you are not romantic or not lost in love , the feeling comes out when you hear these lines. This oneness was brought out by many of the golden era music directors.

    Even the romance of the hero and heroines is subtle. For example , Dev Anand and Waheeda in “Gate Rahe Mera Dil”. and ” Aasman ke Neeche”. Even upto Tere mere Sapne ‘ Yeh maina Kasam li” the romance was subtle, elegant, and it was sheer poetry on screen.

    Now this showing the skin business nowadays movies is surely weapon of mass destruction ( WMD) for good lyrics. Saab loga is very distracted so much , why write good lyrics at all. This is what happens when the body is Western and the soul is Indian. Kuch bhi digest nahi hota. The beat also is monotonous dichku, dichku and lyrics look very outsourced (locally) to a Bhelpuriwala.

    Comment by gajanan — November 2, 2007 @ 9:41 am | Reply

  771. aasman ke neeche is DA and Vyjantimala. Apologies

    Comment by gajanan — November 2, 2007 @ 10:23 am | Reply

  772. Dear co-fans of O P Nayyar,
    Iam just back in India, after spending 2 months with my sons’ families in USA.While in USA I had some good interactions with Hemanthji and Krishna ji, though I was unable to post any in Sachniti. I saw just a few comments above. I am prompted to react first to Krishnaji’s comments on Ragini. You find in me a kindred feelings in me, krishna garu. Almost all the songs of Ragini are excellent to em, incl. priya mai hun patang. Man mora, mud mud humko, mujko bar bar yaadna, and my instant favourite in those days, ” Mai bangali chokra”. The last one, I rate as high as many Kishore-Asha Great hits. That this was not a hit is another matter.
    I feel, in these discussions, we should not bother about some of of OPN’s best songs were hits or not. We need not even try to find the reasons. The fact that we like them for one reason or other is enough.
    Then, Hemantji,
    You pinpointed exactly what is important:
    his tunes, the way he composed them, the instruments he used(I myself do know all of them) and I will add: the way he moulded so many singers to his tunes, the dynamism of his songs, his distinct style. I am never exhausted in extolling the plesant indefinable feelings, almost every song of his arouses.
    Dear Murthy garu,
    pl. dont forget me in making the mangini songs available to me also. I will call you in the next few days.

    Comment by curao — November 4, 2007 @ 6:16 pm | Reply

  773. Dear friends

    A lot has been written about the songs of Mangni – more on chasing after them, uploading, addresses, technicalities of sorts etc. I thought I’d try and add a little spark by adding my 2 cents, although I recall I had eluded to Mangni in some of my earlier posts.

    Mangni was released in 1992 and was one of the last films of the maestro. It has 9 lovely songs, all gems and all with his stamp on them. The songs are incredible, specially when one realizes that they migrated themselves from Neerajanam (Telegu film) for which the Andhra Pradesh State Government gave him the award for the best music director of the year. The film director BR Ishara classified Mangni as one of his best films in music terms. I believe Shammi Kapoor gave a sterling performance.

    Lyrics were penned by Qamar Jalalabadi. SP Balasubramaniam (SPB)and S.Janki provided the male and female voices and have done full justice but one cannot help wondering what could have happened if OPN had Rafi and Asha in the recording room with him.

    Anyway, here goes…

    1. Kahaan se sanam, dil mein mere, pyaar jatanay aaye tum (S.Janki)

    Somewhat in the mould of balma khuli hawa mein, jayye aap kahan jayenge and yet having the same flow, the same inimitable beat that gets all of us excited. Some saxophone touches are of the highest order. The switching of the beat from the dholak to the drums and back are those we know only too well.

    2. Jab se tujhe dekha, jaag utha mera pyar (S. Janki)

    One feels that we are still with the OPN of the 1960s when he was in his thirties. Again the instrumentation is impeccable and the variation in beat is divine and you almost yell for Asha. One doesn’t know when the beat is going to change. The saxophone in the end is mind-blowing.

    3. Jab se tujhe dekha…. (this time its SP)

    SPB does a great job. His voice modulation excels and this makes it better listening than the female version. The lyrics are unchanged. I am told it was not picturized very well.

    4. Hum to mar ke bhee tere rahenge (SPB)

    Another gem, the flute and sitar touches in between are very sweet. Lyrics are magic. I even found some flashes of Asha’s rendering of Yeh hai reshmi zulfon ka andhera na ghbraiyee out here. Check it out in between the antaras.

    5. Ham kaise batayen, taqdeer ne humko, aisa mara (S.Janaki)

    Sad song captures the pathos. Great blend of western and Indian instruments. OPN still had his magic in tact 20 years after Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye…

    6. Kabhee na mitega mera pyar (SPB)

    SPB is simply great. OPN has probably pushed his envelope the furthest by testing SPB here. The intermittent musical pieces are brilliant. OPN has used the rather saxophone generously. The lyrics are splendid. God bless Qamar J.

    7. Aatma martee na bigarti na tou jalti hai (SPB/S.Janki)

    Get ready for some amazing harmonium interplays in this one. OPN apparently was still playing his harmonium at that time (though its not him in the song).
    The first of the two great duets in the film.

    8. Dil de diya mein ne tere liye (SPB/S.Janki)
    A very soulful duet… a tune you can hum in the bathroom while taking a shower. Reminds me of meri neendon mein tum, though its nowhere close to that classic. I am amazed that OPN and Qamar Jalalabadi could crank out something like that in their old ages. Young at heart, as OPN always said. The violin and the saxophone in the end could put you to sleep.

    9. Mein tou mar ke bhee teri rahoon gee (S. Janki)
    What a response to SPB’s #4! It starts very differently with an alaap. The sitar then takes over before you hear the first words. Later the flute takes up prominence and Janki comes as close to Asha in Yeh hai reshmi zulfon ka andhera ( Mere Sanam), as she possibly can. A great way to end and then press REPLAY.

    Every song is wonderful and Mangni is a collector’s item for every OPN fan.
    Mangni may not be a household name in films or even from the popularity of OPN’s musical achievements, but is surely one of his best creations, considering all the limited resources he had at his disposal, when he composed these songs.

    Happy listening, friends. Lets keep the OPN torch alight.

    I am dedicating this message to the lady that I have learnt to admire –
    Kaveeta Kaul.

    Hameshaa

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — November 4, 2007 @ 11:33 pm | Reply

  774. Siraj Ji,

    It is so immensely gracious of you..I am humbled.

    Thank you for your kind words and also for being an inseparable part of ‘O.P. Nayyar Not forgotten’

    Regards

    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — November 5, 2007 @ 11:41 am | Reply

  775. Siraj,
    I’ve not heard Mangni songs, but I can imagine how wonderful they might be based on your description. You must be having the songs and I wonder if you can share it electronically for those of us who don’t have it? You can post it on rediff.com email account using the following Login and password:
    Login: Murtyabcd
    Password: adbc123

    Thanks.

    Comment by Hemant — November 5, 2007 @ 10:41 pm | Reply

  776. Siraj ji ,
    Your description of Magni songs make my mouth watering(i do not know the equivalent expression for ears–ears pricking? not apt i think). I could get all the all the neerajanam songs and they were simply superb. I could imagine the effect on most OPN’s fans on hearing the tunes in hindi. It was an altogether a diffrent OPN, but as you said with his distinctive stamp.
    I often wondered, what is exactly that distinctive uniqueness in OPN’s songs that make us recognise him even though they are so different from one another

    Comment by curao — November 6, 2007 @ 7:01 pm | Reply

  777. Hi Friends,

    After a long time, I accessed YouTube and searched for songs of O.Pji. It appears quite a few songs have been added. On page 5 is a video clip of O.Pji playing the harmonium and discussing the lyrics. Also included in the clip are recording of a song or two. Please take time and view this video clip. It was added just six days ago. O.P., Asha, and Rafi look so young.
    When I watched this video I felt as though I was watching the recording in person. Please take time and view this video. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 7, 2007 @ 8:24 am | Reply

  778. this rare video is available on the very first page of http://www.qamarjalalabadi.com

    Comment by shishirkksharma — November 8, 2007 @ 8:26 am | Reply

  779. Hello Friends,

    Recently I had a long telephone conversation with our pal, Siraj Khan Saheb. Though I was not fortunate to meet O.Pji. in person, Mr. Khan shared so much information about his association with O.P., I felt as though I did meet O.P. and know him very well.

    Youtube now has about 100 songs of O.P. Please check out the song “Tukada Mere Dil Ka” by Asha from the movie ” Ye Raat Phir Na Ayegi”. For some reason this song was not included in this movie’s songs on DVD and casettes available in the market. This song is another melody to be played, heard, and enjoyed for ever. I recollect The Illustrated Weekly of India not only praised the songs but also heaped lavish praise on O.P. for the background music in this movie.

    May I also request all of you to review the website http://www.pathfind.org. Our friend, Khan saheb is employed with this organization which is doing wonderful service to the humanity on this planet. Thanks for your time.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 17, 2007 @ 8:15 pm | Reply

  780. in mn se song’s download kese honge ????

    Comment by AzEeM MuGhAl — November 22, 2007 @ 6:41 pm | Reply

  781. Azeem saheb..Could not quite understand your question. Fikr na karen khull ke poochhiye ..yahaan bade bade ‘maharathi ‘hain jo aapko guide karenge.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — November 23, 2007 @ 1:31 pm | Reply

  782. I think the guy wants to download songs from this site and is asking “In may se songs download kaise hoge?”

    Comment by Hemant — November 28, 2007 @ 9:24 pm | Reply

  783. Have been an OP Nayyar fan for more than 30 years. Collected his compositions, one-by-one and now have a collection of more than 400 songs composed by the maestro. Some of his lesser known songs give me much more joy than the better known ones. Almost like viewing a rare work of art!

    Purely by chance, accessed this , enjoyed reading ALL of it and was amazed at the camaraderie among his fans that have shared this space. Kaveeta Kaul is obviously the soul of this forum but much substance has been provided by Siraj Khan, Hemant, Gajanan, Shishir and many other ‘devotees’ of OP.

    Keep writing you all, to keep this fabulous blog going!

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 29, 2007 @ 3:07 pm | Reply

  784. Purinder Ganju saheb,

    Welcome to the blog. As you have pointed out Kaveeta Kaul has been a guiding force and we owe her for keeping this blog active and meaningful.

    We need to ask ourselves what can we do to help Kaveeta maintain and enhance this site’s utility and visibility to the next level. Some time back several fans wanted a web site solely dedicated to O.P. This idea did not generate much response. May be we can rally around Kaveeta and assist her in any way to increase the awareness of the existence of this site.

    Further, you indicated that you have nearly 400 songs of O.P. Can we work on setting up a tech library of the songs so that any one can access the site and enjoy O.P.’s compositions? Thanks for reading my views.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 29, 2007 @ 6:18 pm | Reply

  785. Dear Krishna Baru ji,

    Thank you for your kind words of welcome. Already feel at home.

    Unfortunately, I am not ‘net savvy’ enough to recognise or understand what really needs to be done to develop & mantain a dedicated website for OP or how to share songs among other fans of OP. Will however be happy to support any meaningful effort or endeavour to achieve this.

    Enjoyed reading your views.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 29, 2007 @ 8:55 pm | Reply

  786. Welcome Purinder ji. It is always so redeeming to meet another O.P. fan..his music has been instrumental in cutting across boundaries of all kinds, bringing us together to celebrate his talent.It was really nice to know that you are the proud owner of his rare gems which you have painstakingly collected over time. Bravo!

    Look forward to more of your views on his compositions. Which are your favorites?

    Krishna ji,

    I join you in your earnest desire and passion for creating a website for O P ji.. Inshallah, it shall happen.

    Regards

    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — November 30, 2007 @ 8:01 pm | Reply

  787. Kaveetaa ji,

    Thank you for your gracious words of welcome.Means much.

    A lot has been said and written about OP’s brilliance, including in this wonderful blog . All these accolades are justified. For me it has been a remarkable journey of discovery. Each new OP song that I heard for the first time excited me immenseley for its originality coupled with a sense of familiarity.

    One aspect of OP’s career that has fascinated me was his early 3-4 years, namely his first 10-12 films. After the success of Aar Paar [ his 4th movie after Aasmaan, Chham Chhamaa Chham and Baaz] , OP was obviously courted by many producers who sought him and his music even if meant removing exisiting music directors. In Mangu , OP displaced Muhammad Shafi;in Mehbooba it was Roshan; in Baap re Baap it was C.Ramachandra and in Sabse Bada Rupaiya it was Nashad. In each of these movies, he has composed stunning songs – frothy, lively and full of fun.

    And those of us who have heard these songs, it has been a privilege and a thrill.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 30, 2007 @ 8:47 pm | Reply

  788. Hemant ji..that was good thinking @782. Whilst we have figured it out Azeem ji has perhaps forgotten his way back 🙂

    Purinder ji..interesting. Despite the almost encyclopaedic information found on Op Ji on Sachiniti, you have offered more. I dont think anyone has spoken of this earlier..his almost overwhelming acceptance immediately so much so that producers were willing to go back on their commitments.WE have a few songs of Baaz on my vodpod. All you have to do is click on ‘ Kavees vodpod..the home page will display a category called ” O P Nayyars hits”..in case you would like to also view the songs of that era.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 1, 2007 @ 12:19 pm | Reply

  789. Kaveetaa ji,

    Saw the songs on your videopod including the 2 songs from Baaz. Loved them for their innocence.Thanks for the suggestion.

    Talking of the movie Baaz, the song “Zara Samne Aa” sung by the incomparable Geeta Dutt was possibly the first glimpse of OP’s unique and inimitable style. One small observation. The song “Mujhe dekho hasrat ki tasveer” in your videopod , captioned as sung by Rafi & Geeta,is actually sung by Talat.

    And for record’s sake, after Baaz , Talat sang in only 1 more movie for OP, namely Sone ki Chidiya. This movie had 2 beautiful Talat & Asha duets ; ‘Pyar par bas to nahin hai mera’ and “Sach bata tu mujh pe fida” . Both these gems continue to delight listeners, even 50 years later.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 1, 2007 @ 4:32 pm | Reply

  790. Thanks for the correction Purinderji. that song was posted by Cu rao ji another dedicated commenter on Sachiniti. Hopefully when he comes here again..will do it.

    The number you mentioned ‘Pyar par bas to nahin hai’ is such a wonderful, wonderful song. Wonder what is more striking the emotion of the words or the music..This is an apt example of both moving in perfect harmony.
    It also reminds me of the song by Geeta Dutt.. ‘zameen se mujhe asman pe “..it gives me goose bumps everytime I listen or think of it.
    Btw in case you wish to read other posts..click on the header ‘Sachiniti’ which will take you to the home page.

    Recently at a singing talent a collection of o P jis songs was presented to the bachchas.. and they were thrilled. Op Jis music has outlived him and will outlive us as well..and the coming generations.. such is the power of his melody. truly divinely blessed.

    Regards

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 2, 2007 @ 1:38 pm | Reply

  791. Your mentioned Kaveetaa ji, the song “zameen se mujhe aasman pe utha kar gira to na doge”. This song, absolutely magical, is a great example of the OP-like compositions [ castanets and all] that were created by other music directors in the late 50s and 60s and left an idelible mark on one’s memory. Do not know the MD or the movie and think that it might be a Rafi- Asha duet instead of a Geeta Dutt rendering. Perhaps, you or one of your readers will enlighten us .

    Interesting to learn about youngsters relishing OPs compositions. As you said, timeless music which appeals to ears even 50 years later. That’s saying a lot.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 3, 2007 @ 4:07 pm | Reply

  792. Purinder ji.. you are right.. I looked it up. It is indeed an asha number. Surprising..but I recall reading somewhere that she began her career with a strongly influenced Getta Dutt style. Perhaps that is the reason it sounded so much like Geeta. It is from “Adalat’..MD is unknown…and I have faltered on the lyrics as well. it is “zameen se humme aasmaan per utha ke gira to na doge’..haunting.
    Another one from the same era, much before my time but like we agree, period has nothing to do with such everlasting music

    ‘main soyee akhiyan meeche teri baahon ke neeche ab chahe jahaan bhi le jaa..tu aage aur main peeche”

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 3, 2007 @ 5:34 pm | Reply

  793. Thanks Kaveetaa ji… Adalat had music by Madan Mohan, another fab Music Director, but too Lata-centric!!

    As for Asha sounding a bit like Geeta, presumably OP, who started with Geeta Dutt as her female lead singer and then jettisoned her for Asha, never forgot Geeta’s fantastic voice. When he helped Asha mould her style of singing, perhaps consciously or sub-consciously, he got her to sing like Geeta Dutt.

    You know that for Howrah Bridge , OP had Geeta sing ‘Mera naam chin chin choo’ and Asha sing “Aayiye Meherban’. If the singers had been interchanged, the result could have been very interesting.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 3, 2007 @ 6:00 pm | Reply

  794. Purinder ji, you’re right. Adalat had Madan Mohan as the music director. There was one song in that movie sung by Asha which goes like “Ja Ja Re Ja Re Ja Reeee, Ja Ja …..” That song had so much OP style in it that one would easily believe it to be an OP tune. Same with Madan Mohan’s “Shook Nazar ki Bijliyan” from Woh Kaun thi.

    Comment by Hemant — December 3, 2007 @ 9:03 pm | Reply

  795. Purinder ji,

    The interchange is an interesting hypothesis. I guess under the baton of a genius like O P ji, little would/could go wrong.

    Madan Mohans fetish if you like for Lata was not something that rankled me considering gems like ” yun hasraton ke daag’ or ‘zara si aahat’ or ‘ the songs fro ‘Anpadh’..aap ki nazaron ne samjha..and so on. Lata did complete justice I think.

    Madan Mohan remains one of my absolute faves..apart from O P ji, S.D., Jaidev, R.D…these maestros never composed a so-so melody. ..although the word never , ought never to be used..but its applicable here most aptly. One could bet on their compositions to hit the mark each time.. unforgettable songs that touched the core of one’s heart.

    Hemant ji,
    what a wonderful composition’ shokh nazar ki bijliyan, dil pe mere giraye jaa, mera na kuch khayal kar, tu yunhi muskuraye jaaaa” I just simply had to sing along. It is so unlike Madan Mohan.. you are right a definite O P inspired number.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 4, 2007 @ 2:19 pm | Reply

  796. Hemant ji,
    Madan Mohan gave us rare gems with Lata but not so many classics with male artists considering that he had poets like Kaifi Azmi and Raja Mehdi Ali Khan to pen the lyrics for him. As for the ocassional OP-like songs, he must have been compelled by his producers into giving ‘fast’ numbers. I think it was he who gave us “dil dil se milake dekho’ which sounded a lot like “Isle of Capri”.This was completely against his grain.
    Kaveetaa ji, my regret about Madan Mohan leaning more heavily on Lata is probably about missed opportinities . He could have used more of Rafi or Talat for his ghazals especially as one associates ghazals more as a serenade by men,rather than the other way around.Nevertheless, Lata sang with a lot of heart for Madan Mohan and together they created some truly memorable songs.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 4, 2007 @ 7:33 pm | Reply

  797. Purinder ji,

    I am enjoying your comments and the insights you are offering are very interesting. As an ardent fan of O.P., I regret what kind of opportunities OP missed by leaning heavily on Asha (did he put all his eggs in one basket?) similar to your observation about Madan Mohan and Lata. When I was a kid (about 12 years old), one of my friends played an April Fool’s joke on me by making believe that OP and Lata are about to team up for an upcoming movie. That combination never materialized and the real losers were the music lovers. However, we take some consolation in that Asha and OP have put a large number of mega hits. OP truly harnessed her voice.

    I am looking for one particular solo by Asha that goes some what like this
    “O Gori Sharam auo na, hum say kahado jara, baat kya kya hue, raat kaise kati”. I believe this was composed by O.P. Please let me know if you have it in your collection. My e-mail is krbaru@hotmail.com. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 5, 2007 @ 8:26 am | Reply

  798. Krishna Baru ji,

    OP-Lata !! Sounds a little surreal but offers interesting possibilites. The nearest that I can visualise is the Suraiya-OP combination. Did you know that Suraiya sang for OP, quite beautifully, in a movie called Mr Lambu? She sang 2 solos [ including the beautiful “yaad karoon tori batiyaan”] and a lovable duet with Rafi, “tum zara si baat par khafa na ho”.

    As for the song mentioned by you, frankly can not place it at all and do not have it in my collection. Are you sure it is an OP composition?

    Thanks for your email address which I have noted. Will send you an email so that you have my address , as well.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 5, 2007 @ 2:57 pm | Reply

  799. @797
    krishna baru sahab, this song ‘gori sharmao na’ is indeed OPN’s…is a female duet sung by asha n kamal barot from the film ‘shrimanji’ (1968 / lyrics-s.h.bihari)

    Comment by shishirkksharma — December 5, 2007 @ 8:38 pm | Reply

  800. Dear friends and specially Purinder

    This post is probably going to take us to the 800s. The journey from 700 onwards was relatively slower. Purinder, you have thrown some new coal in the fireplace and we are all fired up again. Where are you based, pal?

    Just returned home to Boston from Latin America and getting ready to go to Nigeria. Here are some “catch up” comments from the last few posts.

    If you really want to hear Asha in the Geeta mould, listen to “Man Maray Ga Jhoom ke” from Mangu. You will actually think its actually Geeta singing. I can also tell you where Shokh Nazar Ki Bijlian comes from. Listen to Shokh Shokh Ankhen from Phagun carefully. Another Asha number flowing in the Geeta style. Madan Mohan wasn’t always original as he is made out to be.

    I beg to differ on the point that OP knowingly steered Asha towards the Geeta “ung”. I say this because over the many years of my association with the great man, this matter came up off and on. When the songs of Mangu were being recorded, Geeta and Asha were both singing for OP and continued to do so until end 1958. Asha was making concerted attempts to latch on to OP which she did. Howrah Bridge had both of them and right at its heels came 12 “O’Clock. The last song which OPN recorded in Geeta’s voice was the lovable duet with Rafi. Tum jo huwe mere humsafar raste badal gaye. Never to sing again for him although she lived (and sang) until much later. (Give me the songs of Anubhaav any time). There was something which OPN once told me really hit me in the middle. Geeta’s death and OP’s split with Asha happened almost at the same time (August 1972).

    Can you imagine next month on the 28th, it will be a year since he passed away.

    More later but keep writing friends.

    Season’s Greetings everyone.

    Siraj Khan
    Khansaheb2@aol.com
    1-978-621-8030

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 6, 2007 @ 4:30 am | Reply

  801. Shishirkksharma ji,

    Thanks for shedding more light on the song ‘gori sharmao na’ that I have been hunting for years. This duet was not a hit, as a matter of fact this song was not heard either on Radio Ceylon or Vividh Bharati. I heard this song many times over the loud speakers at weddings and new store openings in Hyderabad. The tune is simple yet it’s very appealing. I hope to hear from some one who has all songs of this movie “Shrimanji”.

    Thanks again Shishirkksharma ji.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 6, 2007 @ 9:35 am | Reply

  802. Shisshir sahab,
    That correct! The song is from Shrimanji.
    I have the video of all the songs and will share it with you Krishna ji.

    Comment by hemant — December 6, 2007 @ 10:01 pm | Reply

  803. hemant ji, baru sahab, i hv all the songs of this film in ACD… i hv many others like mai-baap, baap re baap, kalpana, naya andaz etc.etc n even shelved ‘dil tere hawaale’…i wud hv loved to share these with u all but these are in wav format n not mp3…hope i’ll get ‘mangni’ songs soon from director b.r.ishara sahab n will share with u as sn as i get…i’v already posted aasmaan n cid 909 at ‘murtyabcd@rediffmail.com’…

    Comment by shishirkksharma — December 7, 2007 @ 11:36 am | Reply

  804. Dear Friends,

    Colour videos of Naya Daur songs have been added to Youtube. Please hear the songs again and again. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 8, 2007 @ 7:32 am | Reply

  805. I am really gratified that I was able to get you, Siraj saheb, to re-enter the fray with your valuable and interesting comments. ‘Bahut shukriya’ for singling me out for your kind words . I am based in Gurgaon, near New Delhi.

    I also want to ‘put on record’ that I am more than a little envious of you for your close friendship with OP, while my admiration for him was almost entirely from the galleries. I did meet him once, when I was 10 years old, but that as they say, is another story.

    As for the Asha sounding like Geeta , one has to remember that OP was a towering personality in the recording room and knew exactly what he wanted from his singers. One only has to listen to Mahendra Kapur singing for OP after his split with Rafi or to the OP-composed songs of Dilraj Kaur or Krishna Kalle to recognise how ‘influenced’ these singers were by their more illustrious predecessors. Perhaps ,sub-consciously encouraged by OP, Asha modelled herself after Geeta, who at that moment in time was a far more established singer than Asha was.

    Having said this , both Asha and Geeta have produced marvellous songs under the baton of OP for us listeners to enjoy and cherish.In particiluar the 6 duets of Geeta &Asha duets from Mr & Mrs 55, Johnny Walker, Raagini, Mujrim and Mr Cartoon. M.A. are truly memorable.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 8, 2007 @ 11:43 am | Reply

  806. Dear Purinder

    I was in Gurgaon in March this year. Lots of development going on. My office is in Jassola.

    I did not have any friendship with Babujee. Rather I idolized him all my life. The only human on this planet that I did and probably ever will. Him and in his music run through my viens. His music plays in my office (I am the only person from the subcontinent there. The logest telephone conversation that I remember having with anyone ever was with the great man. 1 hour and 45 minutes, in the middle of the night, during which time my wonderful made 4 cups of tea for me while Babujee and myself were talking and singing. I think he liked my straight talk and shooting straight when I had some critique on his compositions. It was after this telecon that I decided to write his biography. There are lot of misconceptions about him, both as a composer and as a person which I have attempted to address, getting straight from the horse’s mouth.

    Its Sunday morning here in Boston 10am and I am on the laptop sipping Yemeni coffee very cosy in my study/den. Its snowing outside as I write. Mere Neendon mein Tum plays in the background.

    Yes, those duets you mention are truly great. My pick is of course Thandi Thandi Hawa from Johnny Walker, which I often put on “repeat track” so the CD keeps playing and playing.

    Shrimanji has 6 songs. Like it happens often, the best compositions do not always hit the charts. Kishore/Mahendra’s Aray Bhaee Shrimanji was heard most and I have never had the itch to hear it again in recent times.

    I feel that I am becoming addicted to YouTube! The Geeta Bali/Geeta Dutt combination is lethal. I strongly recommend checking out MILAAP on YouTube. Its a 1955 film with several songs brilliantly composed by N.Dutta and picturized superbly. You will see the OPN jhalak in all of them.

    Thats all for now, friends. Keep talking and keep listening.

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 8, 2007 @ 9:03 pm | Reply

  807. Hello my Friends,
    I first apologize for being absent so long from Sachniti. It is certainly not due to lack of interest, rather due to increased interest, though in another direction.
    i have been spending lot of time on learning and experimenting with various video formats. my objective is to find a common format that can be loaded into a DVD(for external dvd player) and also into a personal multimedia player. When I visited USA recently, I ended up buying a creative multimediaplayer(Creative Zen vision W). The source can be any, A purchased DVD, or VCD or SVCD or net(ex. youtube). Hence this search. I succeeded in finding a good format for my creative player, but that format does not suit for burning a DVD in data format.
    So, i gave up the project for the present.
    Any guidance or tips from the boarders here are most welcome.
    I will try to post comments(if any) on the recent postings in Sachniti.

    Comment by curao — December 10, 2007 @ 8:13 am | Reply

  808. I will start my comments with no 777 of Krishna baruji, with whom I had long conversation only yesterday.
    “Har tukda mere dil” is certainly a wonderfully composed rendered song, and adds to the richness of yeh raat phir. I do not remember now, if it was there in the film or not. I found it in one of the many cassettes of Asha’s songs.
    I will send to you another masterpiece of OP-Asha from Humsub chor hain, “Bhool jaye dil”. I often feel that not much appreciation and praise was showered on that film. But, I am loyal to my fond memories when i first saw that film as a student of intermediate and travelled 50 miles to see that. I was so crazy on OP in those days. Apart from many well known songs of that film there was another Asha’s sizzling song filmed on young Amitha, a new comer then, “hobbat jissiki dhadke priya”. I rate that film as on par with Ek musafir, Mere sanam, etc., certainly one of OP’s best.

    Comment by curao — December 10, 2007 @ 8:39 am | Reply

  809. Purinder ji,
    Let me also add my welcome, though belatedly, amongst us, “OP devotees”, as you called us. certainly, we are devotees of the great OP, who gave us so much pleasure and thrill through his songs. Iam also a very ardent fan of his, since 1953, when I first saw Aarpaar. Though I admire other MDs as much as any one else, OP is special to me and feel excited whenever I find a new OP fan.
    You are absolutely right in #787. His early films, wow, what songs!!!! what talent!!!What creations!! So enthralling, exciting, so different, inimitable, initiating a new trend. The four gems of Mangu, almost all songs of Baaz, and the stunning wizardry he showed in Aarpaar. Aarpaar was a turning point in his career. Seeing that film and hearing those songs really disturbed me so much in my adolescence , it was a turning point in my life too. It alone kindled my fondness for film songs in general and OP in particular.
    As you ponted out, in #789, Mujhe dekho hasrat was by Talat. The mistake was mine, for which i sincerely apolozise. Actually it was posted by me and I wrongly put the tag RAFI-ASHA, which ought to have gone to another song, which I was uploading at the same time.
    Among his early films, i would like to mention “Hum sub chor hain”, “Choomantar”,”Musafirkhana”, Mr Lambu”, Qaidi, Miss coca cola. Zhuka zhuka hai by Mukhesh-Geetha, makes me feel so blissful even today. I rank it along with Khayalon me kisike by the same pair in Bawre nain of Roshan. More of this in my email to you.
    My email addr is >cumrao@yahoo.com<.

    Comment by curao — December 10, 2007 @ 9:49 am | Reply

  810. Siraj – your expression that OP and his music runs through your veins articulates quite beautifully what many other admirers of OP’s music must also feel.The fact that you did not grow up in India, makes this statement truly awesome.

    But OP’s music has appeal that not only in the sub-continent but far, far beyond. Let me give an example.I heard from a friend who while travelling to , among all places, the Republic of Cameroon, heard the hotel musicians play a tune that sounded very close to OP’s composition “piya piya piya’. My friend somehow assumed that as French speaking musicians were playing, it probably was a French song. Curiosity got the better of my friend and she asked the musicians which song they were actually playing. Imagine her surprise when she was told that it was a song called ‘piya piya piya’ by an Indian composer, Monsieur OP Nayyar!!

    That we who think alike music-wise,have this wonderful platform to communicate through, is something to be thankful for. But where is Kaveetaa?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 10, 2007 @ 12:16 pm | Reply

  811. What nice words of welcome, CU Rao ji. Thank you,kind sir.

    I have read almost all of your posts and clearly recognise your deep passion for and knowledge of the music of OP Nayyar- luckily shared by many of the commentors on this wonderful blog. And then there are people like Krishna Baru who takes the trouble and initiative to establish telephonic contact with other OP’s devotees. I was thrilled to receive a call from Krishna, yesterday morning.

    The amazing aspect about OP’s early compositions was that his music was completely different from the then contemporary trend of slow, and times sad music.He had the courage to buck the trend and to create a style uniquely, his. In movies where OP displaced exisiting MDs,namely Mangu, Mehbooba, Baap re Baap and Sabse Bada Rupaiya,when one has to hear all songs including songs composed by the ‘original’ Music Directors, it is easy to note the contrast and frankly to recognise the difference in class.

    I have noted your email address and shall write to you separately. In any case, one hopes that music lovers of OP Nayyar like you, would keep the interaction level on this blog at a real high.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 10, 2007 @ 12:53 pm | Reply

  812. Purinder ji,

    I am right here..as always.I read every comment..no mistake on that. its is just that i also believe that when ‘itne bade aur gyaani log baat karte ho to chhote nahin bolte” 🙂

    If I may explain with an analogy, its as if all of you are at my home as my esteemed guests and while I am busying myself looking after the nitty gritty, keeping you comfortable and extending hospitality in my modest way, simultaneously am enjoying the passionate discussion , feeling thrilled to be privy of such informative contributions..pitching in with my bit, as and when needed.

    Nothing gives me more pleasure than to experience the camaraderie on my blog. Please keep at it.. I am behind you, feeling the blessings of O p ji all the while. if it was not so, a post I had written almost a year ago while he was between us and in response to the article in mid day, beyond my wildest expectations has metamorphed into a culminating of souls from all over the globe, bound by just a single thread of commonality.. our love for O.P. Nayyar..

    Once again am reminded of his composition’ bahut shukriya badi meherbani’

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 10, 2007 @ 8:00 pm | Reply

  813. Siraj ji ,
    you very aptly described the GItha-Geetha combination is lethal, and mentioned Milap in that context. My heart leaped at the mere mention of Milap. I could not get the most famous, lilting, and titillating song of that film, Jaate ho jaao kal jaaoge kahan, one of the best of that genre by Geetha with her rare golden streak in her voice, in that song particularly. you said youtube has posted it? I will check it right now. I will give worlds for that song.

    Comment by curao — December 10, 2007 @ 8:11 pm | Reply

  814. It is truly remarkable that you Kaveetaa ji, through a strange kind of alchemy, created this truly unique platform for admirers, fans and devotees of OP Nayyar. It is equally fascinating the way, you have nurtured and piloted the various discussions , discourses and dialogues that this site has witnessed. Thank you.

    As for your stating, when ‘itne bade aur gyaani log baat karte ho to chhote nahin bolte”, I can only say Hmmmmm!!

    While it is a thrill to get experts such as Siraj, Krishna Baru, Hemant and now CU Rao ji back in an animated discussion, where are the other heavy weights such as Gajanan, Shishir ji and many, many others who made such wonderful contribution in the past. I feel that it is time to re-ignite the conversation in Kaveetaa ji’s “living room”, to extend her analogy, so that many new ideas about our common hero OP ji, are brought to light.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 10, 2007 @ 9:29 pm | Reply

  815. Here is some not so good news.

    Manohari Singh is one one of the greatest saxaphonists that India has produced. If there was somebody better, then sitting so far away I may be excused for my ignorance. For the benefit of those who may not know, OP Nayyar never used any other saxophonist in his orchestra, other than Manohari Da. Remember the saxophone wizardry in Hai Duniya Usi Ki Zamana Usi Ka, Yahee Woh Jaga Hai and so many others. Right after Manohar Da at the age of 78 gave a superlaive performance at the event Phir Milo Ge Kabhi in memory of OPN on July 6 this year at Thane, his kidneys collapsed. He is critically ill. Let us pray for his recovery and health.

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 11, 2007 @ 12:00 pm | Reply

  816. Purinder ji ..you are such a gifted writer. I am touched by your words.

    Siraj ji..This is indeed sad. The saxophone piece in’hai duniya usi ki’ is so soulful and rich. May Almighty grace Manohari da with a speedy recovery.My prayers….

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 11, 2007 @ 12:05 pm | Reply

  817. The ‘jazz’ element in OP’s music was derived predominantly from the Saxaphone. It was played absolutely beautifully by, as one learnt from Siraj,Manohari Singh ji and added soul to OP’s compositions. Distressing to know of Manohari ji’s poor health.One prays for his speedy recovery.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 11, 2007 @ 7:58 pm | Reply

  818. I would like to join all of you in praying the Almighty for Mr. Manohari Singh’s speedy recovery from his current ailment. I am not sure if close friends and relatives, including the family of Mr.Singh visit this blog and realize the outpouring of support Mr. Singh enjoys among the fans of O.P. If some one can find out where we can reach Mr. Singh’s family, the next step would be for each one of us find a suitable way ( for example, a get-well card, a phone call etc.) to contact Mr. Singh’s family and extend our best wishes to him for a speedy recovery.

    In addition to Manohari Singh ji, there are quite a members in O.P.’s team. Can we invite them to join the blog and be recognized for their roles and contributions to the music world of O.P.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 11, 2007 @ 10:26 pm | Reply

  819. #813 Dear Curao

    More on Milaap. Jaate ho to jao par jao ge kahan is indeed a very lilting song, but there are other jewels in of Milaap too which blow me away:

    * Saiyan khul ke na nein milaye re, jiya dharak dharak re jaye re (Geeta)
    * Yeh Baharon ka samaan, chaand raron ka jahan (Geeta)
    * Bachna zara, ye zamana hai bura, kabhi meri gali mein na aana (Geeta/Rafi)
    * Ta ra ra rum, mere dil me sanam (not sure whether this is Milaap’s too)

    Its amazing that N. Dutta could pack so many splendid compositions in one film. For many years in my younger days, I actually thought that they were OPN compositions. The picturization on Geeta (and Dev Anand) has been captured very well. I sometimes wonder whether there was anyone who could project the shokh-o-chanchal larki act better than Geeta Bali. So back to YouTube for more discoveries!!

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 12, 2007 @ 6:54 am | Reply

  820. Dear CUM Rao ji,

    Like Siraj Khan, I am also getting addicted to Youtube. I keep accessing this Web site atleast twice a day to see if new O.P. songs are added. It appears you have added a duet from Zidd a few hours ago. I heard this one for the first time. It’s melodious. The singers are not identified in the description. Who are the singers? Thanks for this song.

    We have to make a special mention here to thank you for your efforts and time to learn the new and ever fast changing technology and applying it to storage and sharing of musical compositions of yesteryears. Thanks again.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 12, 2007 @ 5:40 pm | Reply

  821. Kaveetaa ji, you do say some very nice things that gladdens one’s heart. “A gifted writer”…. I will remember this one!!

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 12, 2007 @ 5:44 pm | Reply

  822. Siraj ji,
    Yes, Milap was a great pleasant film with great songs. Bach na zara was very good, but Yeh baharonka saman was my next favoute after jaate ho jaao. These two songs actually elevate N.dutta from mediocrity. Today, my ear drums are reverberating with the strains of Jaateho jaao, which I found after decades, and hearing repeatedly to quench my hunger. There are no words to describe my liking for this song.
    you are very right on Geetha bali too. Playful and humorous roles. Recall Aji bas shukriya, Albela. If I remember she was there in Rangeela of Bhagwan in the same type of role. I will also place Nalini jayawant too along with Geetha bali. Munimji and humsub chor hain come to mind.

    Comment by curao — December 12, 2007 @ 7:04 pm | Reply

  823. Krishna baruji,
    Thank you for your appreciation and encouragement. Yes, I posted the Zid song in you tube. I am glad that you could access it. How? Iam not able to access it after uploading till I searched under my name “cumrao”.
    But I dont deserve any appreciation on video technology, as I am still struggling to bring that song to Sachniti, for which I would request the help of Kaveethaji in my next post. I think the singers are Rafi and Asha. But, I am not sure. I am glad that you could access it. How? Iam not able to access it after uploading till I searched under my name “cumrao”. I still have to understand how these work.

    Comment by curao — December 12, 2007 @ 7:14 pm | Reply

  824. Oh! Krishan baruji, I just saw that it has already come to Sachniti. so I did succeed after all.
    Kaveethaji, Pl help me in this. What I did was upload the song to youtube, from youtube bring it to vodpod-Kavee’s videos, and then it appears here in Sachniti. Is that the way? or is there any way I can directly post to Sachniti? I did it successfully long while ago, but now I forgot the steps involved. i shall apreciate if you take some trouble and guide me in this.

    Comment by curao — December 12, 2007 @ 7:27 pm | Reply

  825. Hemantji,
    eventhough it will increase my posts today, I ill fail in my duty, if I dont thank you for sending me the VCD of Zid. I extracted all the songs from the film. I have all of them in video and audio. Aap qatil hai, Badi hai tu namkeen, Dard E dilki, koi gagariya meetha pani, Nakhre kyon karti are the other songs besides the one posted today “Tujhe pyar karlu”. To me all songs are very good to excellent. If people are interested I will upload the other videos also. for those who want audios only I can send them individually. i am supposing that it is not possible to post audios here. However I will try to find a way. Earlier, when I posted only audio, it was removed after a few days by vod pod, I think because there is no video.

    Comment by curao — December 12, 2007 @ 7:38 pm | Reply

  826. For all those who want to, but do not how to, download videos and store in your hard disk from youtube or any other website
    There is very good free, open source software, which can do it just by clicking on the song. it is not possible to download thro regualr downloaders like Download accelerator etc.
    “miro” is the name of the software, which you can search through google, download and install.
    I think I have posted too many today. Hope i havnt bored boarders here.

    Comment by curao — December 12, 2007 @ 7:46 pm | Reply

  827. Dear friends,
    Craoji is very tech savvy in audio/video capture and conversion and yet he’s modest and humble about his skills. Zid songs have some rich orchestration in which many Indian instruments are used – Sitar specifically. Have we ever heard Sitar in Hindi songs in the past couple of decades? Or for that matter Clairnet and other instruments that OP used? Which brings my attention to the song “O Gori Sharam auo na, hum say kahado jara” from Shrimanji. This is a good composition with brilliant use of Sarangi and Surlin right before the antra. Shrimanji also had several good tracks by Kishore Kummar such as Pehlu May Yaar Hoto, Fashion se Jena aur Fashion se Marna, etc. OP never discriminated small producers and in fact composed hit songs in many low budget films – The Killers, Nasihat, CID 909, Kahin Din Kahin Raat and many others.

    Comment by hemant — December 13, 2007 @ 4:41 am | Reply

  828. Craoji,
    Good job in extracting and posting Zid video. I had the dvd for several months but never watched it until you posted it.

    Comment by hemant — December 13, 2007 @ 4:50 am | Reply

  829. Heemant ji, you have made a really valid point about OP not discriminatng between low and budget movies. If he was paid his full fee, he never short-changed his producers. In fact,movies with poor story lines and forgettable performances,some of them mentioned in your posting, ran only because of OPs’ music.

    I recall reading that OP’s name in a new movie project was often enough to secure financing for the movie. Perhaps that’s the reason why Sheikh Mukhtar produced movies ended with the marquee ” We will be back with music by maestro OP Nayyar”.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 13, 2007 @ 7:18 am | Reply

  830. #820 More on ZIDD’s music.

    It has 7 songs. The voices in the only duet Tujhe Pyar Kar Loon are Mohammed Aziz and Ranjana Joglekar. Lyrics of Qamar Jalalabadi. Asha Rafi kahaan, bhaaiyo?

    Please upload other videos as well. Nishchay songs would also be a nice addition. Zidd, Nishchay and Mangni songs clearly prove that OP Nayyar retained his unimitable style well into the 1990s, even after many years in the wilderness. Its amazing that a composer would be involved in the songs of Geeta Bali and Guru Dutt and also Karishma Kapoor and Salman Khan, 40 years later. Geeta Bali, Karishma’s greataunt(as Shammi Kapoor’s wife) had died long before Karishma was even born. OPN’s music is truly timeless. There is so much more that we still have to explore and discover about him.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 13, 2007 @ 12:23 pm | Reply

  831. OP give music for five decades from 50s thru 90s. Or is it six decades? The only other music directors that lasted that long are/were Kalyanji Anandji and LP.

    Comment by hemant — December 13, 2007 @ 7:30 pm | Reply

  832. A few months ago I was watching an old 1964 Dara Singh movie called “Aaya Toffan” which had great songs by LP (Aabhi Kamsin ho Nadan ho, Tera mera naya naya pyar ho gaya, others). Regardless, this movie was produced by Ratan-Mohan and I believe Ratan-Mohan had also made a few movies in the 70s with OPs music. Can anybody confirm which were these? I feel it was Pran jaye Per Vacchan Na Jaye, Hera Moti, and/or Khoon ka Badla Khoon. Thanks.

    Comment by hemant — December 13, 2007 @ 7:35 pm | Reply

  833. A few months ago I was watching an old 1964 Dara Singh movie called “Aaya Toffan” which had great songs by LP (Aabhiii Kamsin ho Nadan ho, Tera mera naya naya pyar ho gaya, others). Regardless, this movie was produced by Ratan-Mohan and I believe Ratan-Mohan had also made a few movies in the 70s with OPs music. Can anybody confirm which were these? I feel it was Pran jaye Per Vacchan Na Jaye, Hera Moti, and/or Khoon ka Badla Khoon. Thanks.

    Comment by hemant — December 13, 2007 @ 7:38 pm | Reply

  834. I just now added another Zid song, “koi Gagariya”. It sounds like an excellent one. however, I odnt know the singer.
    I have all the video songs of Nischaiy. I will add all the songs of CID 909, Nischaiy, and Zid and a few others, slowly, firs into youtube and then to Kavee’s video to Sachniti. I want enrich to you tube with OP songs.
    Hemantji has expertly highlighted the instrumental aspects of Zid songs. The do show definitely OP had not lost the art of incorporating vim vigor into his songs in his later films too.
    Siraj ji,
    while we talk on N.Dutta, I would like to mention some superlative gems of his: maine chand aur of chandrakanta, tora manwa of Sadhna, Mai tumhi tumhi of Black cat, Yeh rate yeh mausam of Delhika thug, many songs of Dhoolka phool, apart from 2 of the greatest rock’n rolls, lal lal gaal, and C-A-T cat. Incidentally, Lata said once that mai tumhi tumhi was her best song ever(some years after she said that aayega aayega aanewala was her best ever.)

    Comment by curao — December 13, 2007 @ 9:53 pm | Reply

  835. @hemantji…
    all the three films you mentioned i.e. PJPVNJ, KKBK n heera moti were produced by ratan mohan under his banner r.m.art productions.

    @curaoji
    a little amendment here sir…dilli ka thug was ravi’s n not n.datta’s…

    Comment by shishirkksharma — December 13, 2007 @ 10:16 pm | Reply

  836. @curaoji
    kori gagariya meetha paani…(zid) is sung by kavita krishnamurty…other two female voices in this film are madhuri joglekar n ranjana joglekar n the songs are…
    1. tujhe pyar kar loon ye jee chahta hai (duet) – md.aziz, ranjana
    2.khoone jigar se ho likh denge hum to pehla pehla salaam sanwariya ke naam (female triplet) – ranjana, madhuri, kavita

    Comment by shishirkksharma — December 13, 2007 @ 10:29 pm | Reply

  837. Shishirkksharmaji,

    I thought Ranjana’s voice in Zid’s Tuje Pyar Kar Loon… was very melodious. Even the male voice of Md. Aziz is good. This song is another gem. I wonder what factors contributed to O.P. ji’s decision to retire. He could have started a new life with these young singers and could have scored music for a few more years. I am sure Siraj Khan saheb knows the answer to my question and would probably discuss this in the autobiography he is working on.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 14, 2007 @ 12:18 am | Reply

  838. Nayyar’s khoone jigar se ho likh denge hum to pehla pehla salaam from Zid was my favorite one in that movie. And I agree with Shishirji that nayyar could have started a new life. Nischay also had good songs – my favorite one was cut off from the movie don’t remember that song now. I wonder if any of you know why many of Nayyar’s songs were cut from his movies?

    Comment by hemant — December 14, 2007 @ 2:23 am | Reply

  839. Shishirji,
    I kind of thought that they all were Ratan-Mohan films and you confirmed it. I think Nayyar and Ratan-Mohan had commonality of perspective and were on the same wavelength. I could see during couple of recordings that Nayyar had lot of autonomy working with RM.

    And yes Dilli ka Thug had Ravi’s music.

    Comment by hemant — December 14, 2007 @ 2:48 am | Reply

  840. Curao ji, @824..I think you can upload songs directly to my vodpod if you have the embed code or the url code.. you dont necessarily have to go the you tube route. You will get an idea of the codes if you go to the ‘edit page’ of the songs you have posted and will find the relevant boxes of the the embed code and url code.

    Friends,all songs of O P ji are in the vodpod page ( click on kavees videos) under the category of O P nayyar hits, even if they do not feature on the front page of the vodpod at Sachiniti,which resets from time to time, including the two latest sent by Cu rao ji.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 14, 2007 @ 12:58 pm | Reply

  841. Thank you, Kaveethaji for your helpful hint. Ya, ofcoure I know about the url code and embedding. The only trouble was geeting to Kavee’s videos in vodpod, which I know now that I have to go to O P Nayyar hits. OK. Ill slowly upload 1 or 2 every day.
    Thanking you once again.

    Comment by curao — December 14, 2007 @ 6:54 pm | Reply

  842. Sorry, my mistake shishirji and Hemantji on delhika thug. Memory failing. It is Ravi.

    Comment by curao — December 14, 2007 @ 7:06 pm | Reply

  843. Hello Friends,

    So far no reaction from any of you in response to my suggestion on Manohari Da’s poor health (Number 818). This seems to imply we will pray for Manohari Singh ji’s speedy recovery but nothing more.

    If any one of you know where I can send a get well wish card to Manohari Singh saheb, or a contact phone number for Mr. Singh please let me know. My e-mail address is krbaru@hotmail.com. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 14, 2007 @ 8:24 pm | Reply

  844. @hemantji
    i hv seen nishchay n hv it’s LP record too but i don’t remember if any of the 6 sons has been cut from the film. pl let us know wch of the fllwng songs is not there in the film?
    1. kisi haseen yaar ki talash hai- amit, kavita
    2. dekho dekho tum ho gaya mai gum – ….do….
    3. chhutti kar di meri padi nigah jab yaar ki – kavita
    4. nayi surahi taza paani o mere jani – amit, kavita
    5. sun mere sajna sun re mere hath me kya hai – ….do….
    6. chal mere ghode chal chal chal – md.aziz

    i agree, OP cud start ‘naya daur’ of his career with nishchay n zid but failed…i think the reason was both the films were totally flop on box office thus op’s comeback cud not becum a ‘hot-news’…at the same time i.e. in early 90’s he had signed a third film ‘chand si mehbooba’, renamed ‘dil tere hawaale’for producer jairami reddi but this cud never start though 7 songs for this film had been recorded…these are –

    1. kurta silaya rangdaar o jaanam tere liye, pyar ki pehli shalwaar o jaanam tere liye – a beautiful duet sung by shabbir kr. n anuradha paudwal wch reminds us of many of op songs from sar par topi laal…to reshmi shalwaar kurta…to kajra mohabbat waala…to pyaar bhara kajra ankhiyon me daal ke…

    2. hasina o hasina arey kaun sa tha wo mahina…bina tel ke kar di champi haaye…bina tel ke kar di champi chhoota mera pasina… this shabbir kr. songs clearly reminds of dekh idhar aye hasina…june ka hai mahina (12’o clock)

    3. gora gora rang hai gulaabi…sharmili nazar hai sharaabi – anuradha, shabbir – again a melodeous duet with beautiful use of sitar, flute, organ n sexophone…

    4. o banki banki laila mai ashiq hoon albela, dil khol ke kar le pyar yaar dilwala hai – anuradha, shabbir – though the song is good, use of dholak with fast rythm n interludes with sexophone n piano are more melodeous…

    5. banaanewaale ne arey kitne roop bigaade honge tab baith ke khud apne haathon se jaanam tujhe banaya hai

    6. janaabe man thehriye…dekhiye…ye dil mera aapke chahne waalon me hai…

    5 n 6 both md.aziz’s solos…good to listen but not very impressive (my personal opinion)

    7. mai miloongi tujhko radha kabhi meera bankar tu milega mujhko mera krishna kanhaiya bankar – anuradha – most melodeous among all the songs…mukhda suggests this is a bhajan but in fact is a love song…beautiful use of santoor n sexophone…

    Comment by shishirkksharma — December 14, 2007 @ 9:03 pm | Reply

  845. Shishirksharmaji,

    It appears you are keeping closer tabs on the events in the filmdom than most of us. In that sense your insights and perspectives are valuable. What makes this blog so interesting is that folks with diverse interests and backgrounds are keeping this site brimming with different ideas and points of view.

    Where can get my hands on the songs of Dil Tere Hawaale? Even an audio tape would be fine with me.

    Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 14, 2007 @ 10:49 pm | Reply

  846. Hello Friends,

    I was searching for additional material on O.P. and found some interesting material on Geeta Dutt and her songs. Please check it out.

    http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ducksoup/26/GeetaDutt.htm

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 14, 2007 @ 11:37 pm | Reply

  847. krishna baru sahab, i’m trying to convert all my collection into mp3 format…as sn as i succeed, shall definitely send u thru mail…i’v to send the same to hemantji too…

    Comment by shishirkksharma — December 15, 2007 @ 6:08 am | Reply

  848. In post # 831, Hemant ji spot-lights on the long innings of OP from the 50s to the 90s.True, but there is another feat of OP Nayyar, which I believe is absolutely un-matched.

    The 3 years period, from 1956 to 1958 was a truly unique phase in OP’s career. Although stalwarts like Shankar Jaikishen,Naushad and SD Burman were at their peak , it still was the most productive period of OP Nayyar’s career. 25 movies with OP’s music were released during these 3 years. This meant movies with OP’s distinctive music hitting the screen, on an average almost every 6 weeks , month after month for 3 years.

    With almost 200 songs composed during this period, it also meant that a new OP song was written, composed and recorded ,say every 5 days. And a very large percentage of the songs were absolutely marvellous. Just can not think any music director coming close to this prodigious record of OP Nayyar.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 15, 2007 @ 1:25 pm | Reply

  849. Purinder ji this is truly remarkable. The fact that these songs assuredly went on to gaining popular acclaim adds on to the feat. I daresay our present lot cannot come anywhere close despite their penchant for ‘inspired’ tunes. and yes.. that too. I doubt if o P ji ever resorted to ‘inspiration’ in its accepted connotation today. A song ever 5 days is ..WHEW!! So another new term can safely be coined.. The Indefatigable O.P. Nayyar.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 15, 2007 @ 2:01 pm | Reply

  850. Another aspect of OP’s uniqueness, Kaveetaa ji, was his meteoric rise at a young age. To put this into perspective, OP Nayyar was just 28 when he hit the big-time with Aar Paar and 48 years when his Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye music became popular.This movie, as is known, saw the parting of ways for OP and Asha and in some ways, OP then ‘rode into the sunset’.

    At the same age of 48, SD Burman career had just started to take off after the success of Dev Anand’s Taxi Driver. In many ways, fate and his ex-flame conspired against OP, resulting in his eventual ‘sanyas’ from the movie industry, even though he had a lot to offer.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 15, 2007 @ 3:56 pm | Reply

  851. ‘rode into the sunset’.. nice!Their last song together perhaps “chain se humko kabhi” ..quite a plaint..almost prophetic. Was he only 48 then? Which means that he lived on for almost four decades nurturing memory of success and love which he had experienced in abundance . Both seemed to have forsaken him simultaneously. Quite a story.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — December 15, 2007 @ 6:13 pm | Reply

  852. I understand the so-called last song ” Chain se humko kabhi” was removed from the movie. Does any one know the reasons behind this move on the part of the director or can we only speculate similar to Lata and OP never getting together?

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 15, 2007 @ 7:45 pm | Reply

  853. Purinderji,
    you have nicely analysed OP’s most creative and profuse output during 1956 to 1958. i would like to add another aspect of OP’s achievement. Though I have not analysed in nos., it can be easily asserted that OP had the highest no. of flop films, in which he gave us his most memorable creations. After all which were his box office hits? A naya daur here, A CID there, a tumsa nahin dekha somewhere. AS films, where do Zid, Johny walker, Miss coca cola, Hum sub chor hain, CID 909 even Mere sanam, Ek musafir, yeh raat fir, and such others with great compositions stand in comparison with the likes of chori chori, shree 420, Kala bazar, jis desh me Ganga, and scores of other successful films of most other MDs? As can be observed, a hit film rarely had songs, which were not also popular. OP has done exactly the converse. His compositions were the only assets in most of his films, which were utter flops.

    Comment by curao — December 16, 2007 @ 7:04 pm | Reply

  854. Shishirji,
    In # 844, you asked which of the six songs mentioned by you in Nischaiy, is not there in the film. As far as I could know, all the six are present, at least in the VCD version I have with me(Thanks to G N Murty). i could extract all the six.

    Comment by curao — December 16, 2007 @ 7:23 pm | Reply

  855. You are absolutely right in mentioning that in many OP films , his music was possibly the only redeeming feature of the film – a case of forgettable films and unforgettable music.

    There was a stage in OP’s career from 1962 to 1965 when he gave music for only 5 movies. While Hong Kong (1962) is remembered only for its lilting music , Ek Musafir Ek Hasina (1962), Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon (1963) , Kashmir Ki Kali(1964) and Mere Sanam(1965) were commercial successes . Much of the success is largely attributable to the music of OP Nayyar .A total of 37 songs in these 4 movies were composed by OP. Each was one a gem.Only re-endorses the fact that OP was a class act.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 16, 2007 @ 9:38 pm | Reply

  856. Post # 855 , I forgot to specify is in response to CU Rao ji’s post #853.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 16, 2007 @ 9:39 pm | Reply

  857. Absolutely right , you are, Purinderji.
    Among the 5 films, you mentioned, all except Hong kong were among his all-time bests for music. But even Hong kong, though the film was utter trash(I think hero was Om Prakash and heroine, Helen. There cant be a worse insult on the audience.), had some memorable tunes. Honolulu, Mohobbat karnewala, Ho jo hukmto, Karle pyar karle were truly great, and often found in Asha’s collections in cassettes.
    Though, Bhagam bhag was also a big flop, it really had some wonderful fun by By Bhagwan and Kishore, and based after all on an english Laurel-Hardy movie. If any one can get the Filmfare with a review on bhagam bhag, one should read its praise of the music. The reviewer went into raptures. Though I dont have it now, I read it so many times, that i still remember that 2 full paragraphs were devoted to music in that film.

    Comment by curao — December 18, 2007 @ 7:10 pm | Reply

  858. Wasn’t Ashok Kummar the hero of Hong Kong?
    I could be wrong though.

    Comment by hemant — December 18, 2007 @ 9:02 pm | Reply

  859. I don’t recall the song that was cut from the film Nischay. I’ll have to search my Nischay cassette to confirm that. But then I could be wrong about it – maybe confused with “Khoone Jigar Se” from Zid.

    Comment by hemant — December 18, 2007 @ 9:06 pm | Reply

  860. Hemant,
    I also could be wrong, but, I saw the film in those days. I do remember distinctly Omprakash and Helen, but not Ashok kumar in hong kong.
    Which song of Nischaiy you are referring to Hemant? I said all the six mentioned by shishirji in #844 are present in the film, becasue I could extract all those particular six from the VCD.

    Comment by curao — December 19, 2007 @ 6:42 pm | Reply

  861. Purinderji,
    You mentioned “dil dilse milake dekho” in #796. I think that it was from film “memsaheb” for which Salil chowdhary was the composer. Of course, those who know better may correct me without any hesitation on both counts. That song was sung by kishore once and Lata again. no? The kishore version was a great hit in those days.
    One great song of Rafi for Madan mohan for which they both deserve abundant kudos was “Mat bhule are insaan” in Mastana
    Sirajji,
    In post #800, you mentioned Asha singing like Geetha in Mangu, in the song “Man more gaa”. There was another song in the same film “Dol mere man pyarse”, which also had similar traits. In fact, I, being a geetha fan, used to quarrel with my friends, that those 2 were Geetha’s, till we saw Asha’s name on the 78 rpm records. I still entertain some doubts if it was printing mistake. My doubts stem from the question if OP really veered towards Asha so early? and, Of course, Asha undoubtedly Adopted that provocative seductive strain of Geetha in those songs. Those exhilarating and heady twists in singing were the characteristics of my golden Geetha.

    Comment by curao — December 19, 2007 @ 7:24 pm | Reply

  862. Crao,
    For some reason I think there were actually seven songs recorded for Nischay but the movie had only six. I have to find my Nischay cassette to confirm this though. But like I said before “I could be wrong.”

    Comment by hemant — December 19, 2007 @ 7:51 pm | Reply

  863. CU Rao ji, you are right that “dil dilse milake dekho” is from film “Memsaab” . I believe that the Music Director was Madan Mohan – more info available from http://www.rhapsody.com/madanmohan/memsaab .

    I have been an admirer of Madan Mohan , but feel that even he had to deviate from his rather sedate style because of pressure from listeners who had tasted the joys of OP and his music.Consequently, Madan Mohan borrowed the tune from “Isle of Capri” – a bit of a shame.

    Talking of Mangu, there is an absolutely brilliant number by Shamshad Begum entitled “Zara pyar karle babu”. Shamshad was probably under-rated by all except by OP Nayyar.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 19, 2007 @ 9:28 pm | Reply

  864. Purinderji,
    you said that “Zara pyar karle babu” was underrated by all. no, Sir, at least I dont belong to that class. I absolutely adore it. If you see my many earlier posts in this sachniti, you will find that i often spoke about 4 priceless gems from that obscure film, Mangu.
    1. Man more gaa 2. dol mere man pyarse. 3. zara pyar karle and 4. Bol pardesia.
    The way he combined his usual saxophone music with shamshad’s voice in JaazZ stile was really mind blowing. I do feel that it is not OP, nor the song, which was underrated by many , but perhaps Shamshad herself was underrated. Public memory is proverbially short. Her memorable contributions to many songs of Naushad, C.Ramchandra and OP are not appreciated enough in these posts at least.
    Just to recall, OP himself gave her maximum singing in CID, which was one of his all time bests. And no reason to regret for that. She did more than full justice to the songs she was given. And if I remember correctly, She was the sole female singer in Naya andaz. How can we forget her singing in films like Anmol ghadi and Patanga, Dulari etc.?
    The last named song ” Bol pardesia” was equally good to listen though it was composed in an entirely different genre.

    Comment by curao — December 20, 2007 @ 7:40 pm | Reply

  865. Hello my friends

    SEASON’s GREETINGS to all of you. Catching up with you. I read all the wonderful posts since my # 806 of December 8.

    For my biography I went through a lot of fine details with OPN himself to validate the accuracy of the sequence of events. The early breakthrough went something like this:

    1951
    * OPN is impressed by Geeta’s lilting style in Guru Dutt’s Baazi songs
    * Guru Dutt is himself swept away by Geeta, not just by her voice alone

    1952
    * OPN lands his first assignment “Aasman”. Geeta gets 4 songs. There was one song to be recorded by Lata. Due to the OPN/Lata rift which became history, this song Moree Nindya Churaye Gayo was recorded in the voice of Rajkumari. OPN deliberately did not get this song recorded in Geeta voice as this would have negatively affected the close Geeta-Lata relationship. By the way, that was the only time he used Rajkumari’s voice in a film. Never again.

    * By now Geeta has seen OPN’s brilliance and potential and decides to introduce him to Guru Dutt. Although they wern’t married then, but Geeta already exercised a lot of influence on Guru Dutt. They were in love. He signs him up for Baaz.

    1953
    * Geeta/Guru Dutt marry on 26 May 1953. Geeta Bali and OPN are prominent guests. Baaz is released right after the event with 8 songs, with Geeta featuring in all the 6 songs in the female voice, most of which were hits even before the wedding bells rang. Two of these songs were played at their wedding by a band
    1. Zara samne aa zara ankh mila
    2. Maajhee albele chalo re halay haulay

    Then came Aar-Paar a nd the rest, as they say, is history.

    # 844. On his films. Of the films, he composed music 73 were commercially released. OPN used to refer these good-humoredly as “A-Z” (Aasman to Zidd) spanning over 40 years.

    # 848/855. This may come as a surprise to many. While Purinder and others have written extensively about songs upto the years 1965, it was 1966 which was actually the high-point of his composing career. He was never able to achieve that success in one single year – before or after. A hit parade of 7 films, each loaded timeless music. It was not just the songs. The background score was something never heard before.

    * Aqalmand – (my favourite is the duet Khubsoorat Sathee, itbi baat bata)
    * Baharen Phir bhi Ayengi – (All 6 Asha-Rafi hits hummed even today)
    * Do Dilon Ki Dastan – (8 Asha-Rafi songs here)
    * Love and Murder – (6 gems)In my opinion, one of OPN’s most under-rated film.
    * Mohabbat Zindagi Hai (another round of 8 hits on the charts)
    * Sawan Ki Ghata (8 songs. Never figured out which was the best.Had Sharmila
    * Ye Raat Phir Na Ayegi(9 hits. Heroine Sharmila considers this as OPN’s best)

    # 861
    Mangu (1954) had 4 songs, none sung by Geeta, though it seemed she had sung all four of them.

    # 862
    Nishchay had 6 songs recorded, none of them cut. Paradoxically, Esmayeel Shroff who persuaded OPN to attempt a comeback with this film as well as Zidd, was unable to deliver as a director and the films were not great commercial successes.

    #864
    Naya Andaz was not entirely Shamsahd. Asha has featured in alovely duet with Rafi in Yeh Raat Aashiqana. However, Shamshad scored her success in Mehbooba earlier in Mehbooba with the sole female voice.

    Get ready to do some home-work. I am working on to produce my OPN – TOP TEN. It would be nice to compare notes and come up with our own groups favourites, keeping in mind not the son’s popularity but based on our own likings. Sings which move our inner chords. Lets try to do it in 2007 itself. Kaveeta can consolidate and release the final list. I would be happy to assemble results too, if required.

    Stay tuned!!

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 21, 2007 @ 5:14 am | Reply

  866. Yes siraj ji,
    Iam wrong again. I do have Yeh raat ashiqana in my Library, and yet without verifying Imade that bloomer in that post.
    but, I like your idea of 10 best of OP. We can also list 10 best films. Ofcourse, all without any reference to popularity. It is to be expected no two lists will coincide. What we can do then is make two lists: 1. List of all the songs mentioned in all the lists, in the order of no of people choosing it. 2. Make a list of the top 10 songs in that list. It may be possible that some songs will get the same no. “votes”. we will simply add all such and the final list may contain more tha 10. yours is a very good idea.
    But, one thing i would request from OP fans is: Let us jettison all our bias for/ against singers and lyrisists. Let us base our choice only on tunes themselves and the accompanying music.

    Comment by curao — December 21, 2007 @ 6:48 pm | Reply

  867. Good news, folks!

    I just spoke to Manohari Singh. He has recovered miraculously and has been put on to dialysis twice a week. Believe it or not, he was in Pune getting ready to go on stage for a performance. He shared something with me. He said that he was praying in his heart that all will go well with his performance after what has happened, and was still nervous. Most of all he fears himself as he gets carried away when the saxophone touches his mouth. My call went in just at that time and while we were talking, I heard somebody remind him to get ready. I left him in high spirits and he asked me to call him again soon.

    I told him of our group who are his well-wishers. His mobile # is 9820126397 in case somebody wants to talk to him. Please just give him the reference of OP Nayyar and his daughter Rani Nakhwa.

    Cheers

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 21, 2007 @ 9:48 pm | Reply

  868. Khan Saheb,

    Thanks for sharing the good news on Manohari Singh’s recovery. It’s heartening to hear that he has resumed his performances. I will definitely attempt to reach him on his cell and see how our first conversation will go.

    You have to be commended for taking time and staying in touch with fans and associates of O.P. These days, when life has become a rat race, very few folks are willing to take time and maintain touch unless they have a specific purpose (mostly pecuniary). Please keep up the good work. Thanks for all you are doing to keep memories of O.P. alive.

    Comment by Krishna R baru — December 22, 2007 @ 9:45 pm | Reply

  869. CUM Rao ji,
    Almost every day I am playing two Zid songs on Youtube. These songs were made avaialble by you. If you have the VCD of Zid, can you please add the remaining songs. I am anxiously waiting for the song “Khoone jigar se ho likh denge hum to pehla pehla salaam sanwariya ke naam (female triplet) – ranjana, madhuri, kavita (please see comment number 836 by Shishirkksharma ji. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna R baru — December 22, 2007 @ 10:04 pm | Reply

  870. I want to let you guys know that I talked to Manohari Singh this morning. He sounded pretty good and was quite delighted to hear from a well wisher. He was here in New York with his daughter and son-in-law during July/Aug time-frame. We talked for about 15 minutes on various topics such as electronics, acoustics, musical instruments, recording, etc. He sounded pretty positive and also shared a fews laughs with me – invited me over next time when I was in Bombay – lives pretty close to from where I am from back home.

    Comment by hemant — December 23, 2007 @ 1:22 am | Reply

  871. Hello friends,

    Just spoke with Manohari Singh ji. He is doing fine. We talked very briefly as he was busy. May be I can catch him later when he has time and converse in detail.

    Comment by Krishna R baru — December 23, 2007 @ 11:35 am | Reply

  872. Its extremely difficult to select 10 out of the over 700 gems from the OP Nayyar treasure box. Easier said than done. However, here is my all time OP Nayyar Top 10, though not necessarily in any order. To do that for me would be impossible. At least 300 more could easily find their way into that list because they all move my inner chords.

    1. Ae Dil Ae Deewane (Baaz) – Can never get tired of this. Amazing Geeta Dutt.
    2. Thandi Thandi Hawa Puche unka Pata (Johnny Walker)- Feel the cool breeze.
    3. Hoon Abhi Mein Jawan ae Dil (Aar Paar)- This song casts a spell over me.
    4. Jaata Kahan Hai Deewane (CID)- Geeta’s voice modulation stands unparalleled
    5. Yahi Wo Jagah Hai (Ye Raat Phir Na Aye Gi)-Clearly, one of Asha’s best ever
    6. Jayye Aap Kahan Jayenge (Mere Sanam)- He is the Rhythm King for this alone
    7. Aap Yun Hi Agar Humse Milte (Ek Musafir Ek Hasina)- The most lilting duet?
    8. Balma Khuli Hawa Mein (Kashmir ki Kali)- My pick-me-up song for 40 years
    9. Mujhe Mera Pyar Deday (Humsaya) Awesome combo of voice, orchestration,beat
    10.Dekho Aray Dilbar (Pran Jaye Par V N J) Can you sit still when this is on?

    This is straight from the heart. Nothing to do with the popularity charts, no bias to any singers (no gender discrimination either.

    Hopefully this would be the start of other lists to follow and then a vibrant exchange of dialogue and comments.

    With my best wishes for 2008 and beyond!

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 24, 2007 @ 8:13 am | Reply

  873. OP Nayyar’s Top Ten appeared to be a great idea till one started to actually make a selection. My first list contained almost 50 songs. Culling 40 songs was really tough and I agonised over each one before ‘letting them go’, one by one. The 10 songs that according to me are really and truly special OP songs are :

    1. Pritam aan milo ; CH Atma; non-film
    2. Diwana hua badal; Rafi & Asha; Kashmir ki kali
    3. Pyar pa bas to nahin ; Talat & Asha; Sone ki chidiya
    4. Poocho na hamein ham unke liye; Asha; Miiti mein sona
    5. Main soya ankhiyan meeche;Rafi & Asha; Phagun
    6. Tum jo huye mere hamsafar; Geeta & Rafi; 12 o’Clock
    7. Meri neendon mein tum; Shamshad & Kishore; Naya Andaaz
    8. Ched diye mere dil ke taar ; Amir Khan; Raagini
    9. Phir bhi hai dil bequaraar; Asha; Kalpana
    10. Aap ke haseen rukh pe ; Rafi, Baharen Phir bhi Ayengi

    Hope that this will trigger similar lists from others, specially Kaveetaa ji.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 24, 2007 @ 10:32 am | Reply

  874. Sirajji and Purinderji,
    As you both mentined, it is almost impossible to pick just 10 out of several hundreds of OP’s songs, each of which cries for inclusion for one reason or another. Sometimes it depends on our mood, time, season and weather too. However, Sirajji’s selection is nearer my heart. My own selection not in the order of excellence, of course. It is almost impossible to chose the best among these ten, and 2nd best etc. – If they appear to be mostly from his older films, It is not because i have not like some later songs equally well, but only because, the songs mentioned here left an indelible impression on my young heart then, and the raisond’etre of my liking for OP.
    1.Babuji dhire chalna-Geetha at her exhillerating best with Nascent O.P.Nayyar
    2.Leke pehla pehla pyar-Rafi-Asha-shamshad-My loyal heart clings to this, The 78 rpm record of which I wore out in 15 days on repeated playing. It thrilled my young heart so.
    3. Dol mere man pyarse-Asha-Mangu-Swayed us as if drunken
    4.Boonj mera kya naamre-Shamshad. Needs not much description, with that setting, aptest musical accompaniment and the folkiness of the song for whcih none else could have done justice, except Shamshad
    5. Sarpar topi-made us dance with craze in the theatre itself
    6.Bahut shukriya-There are no words in English to extol the way in whcih Rafi says “Bahut shukriya”
    7. Ai dile deewane-Baaz-Geetha: A soul stirring song by the inimitable Geetha. agree with siraj’s description, truly amzing rendering.
    8. Thandi thandi hawa-by Asha and Geetha. i regard this as one of all time bests by any MD. You really feel the cool brezze from the fluttering leaves with those scintillating musical interludes and the heavenly sweetnesss of Asha’s alaapana.
    Oh my god, already, 8 are over. no, it is truly doing injustice to the memory of OP to pick up only. May be a hundred could do justice. However, I will finish the job, though being unhappy about it.
    9. Tumhara chahne wale khuda ke duniya mein-by MK and asha from Kahi din kahi raat-
    10. Jhuka jhuka ke nigahe-by Geetha and Mukhesh.
    Well, this just not enough.
    I have not included “jaayiye aap kahan”, “Hath aaya hai”, Chal akela, Mere neendonme tum, tumjo hue mere. poochon na hamen and so manyothers. not because they are less of my favorites or any inferiority of the songs themselves. and also

    Comment by curao — December 24, 2007 @ 6:46 pm | Reply

  875. This just underscores the fact that OPN had such a wide spectrum of great songs that we can literally have different sets of TOP TENS. You guyz are absolutely correct. The exercise we have embarked on isn’t easy at all but its going to be fun. Sometimes the journey is far more enjoyable than the destination.

    Curao – do you have #3 and #10? These are two songs I love, but have heard very little of them. Somehow never had the 78/45 records, never found them in audio-tapes, no CDs not even on any website. Can you be kind enough to send these to me somehow. I shall remain truly obliged.

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 24, 2007 @ 8:37 pm | Reply

  876. Dear Kaveetaa

    Is your SDB write-up in circualtion?

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 24, 2007 @ 8:45 pm | Reply

  877. I like the description and the rationale you provided Craoji in the top list. It gives me a perspective of what you see in the song that I didn’t see. It has the potential to sway my mind and compromise with my list. This is a great start. I think the top-10 OP list is difficult to come up with though. It would be painful and agonizing, especially based on what you mentioned Craoji that “our likes depend on our mood, time, season and weather too.”

    I suggest that we make this a top-20 or 25 OP list. The overall exercise (top 10/20) will allow us to analyze and dissect the songs based on the tune, composition, orchestration, instruments used, genre, era, etc. If we don’t use a criterion to evaluate then reaching consensus will be difficult. In addition, I also suggest that we provide a rational for including each song in the list based on the selected criteria – i.e. what is it that made us like the specific song so much. Without criteria we all will provide our own likes based on our nostalgia and other factors without reaching consensus.

    The first step for the top list I believe is to develop the criteria – some of which I’ve mentioned above (and we can add more). It doesn’t have to be very complex. The benefit of the criteria is to gain different perspective that will enable us to go back and revisit the specific song to find something new that we can enjoy more. I’ll wait to hear feedback from all. I’ll still okay without the criteria too.

    Comment by hemant — December 25, 2007 @ 6:59 am | Reply

  878. First my reply to Shishirji and Krishnaji on a”Zid” song, by the three lady singers.
    Since your post on that song, I searched the 2 disks of VCD at least 6 times. No, definitely there was no such song at least in the discs in my possession. Further, the songs were listed on the cover of the VCD and it was not among them. Only six songs were listed. There were two very small bits of song by a male voice, in addition to those six. The song mentioned by you both must have been removed. I was not familiar with the film my self earlier, till Hemantji sent me the VCD. Very sad indeed to the disappointment of all of us.
    The film itself is very good tragedy indeed, though having such lilting songs. It was really a pleasant surprise to hear the other songs at least.

    Comment by curao — December 25, 2007 @ 9:57 am | Reply

  879. Thank you Hemantji for your appreciation and suggestions. I agree with most of your suggestions. I would like the no. to be 25. I vventure to suggest some of the criteria.(I myself did not follow these criteria in my list).
    1. There should not be more than one song from a single film(for 10 best) or two songs (for the 20/25 best).
    2. There should be at least one song of Geetha, shamshad, Rafi, Asha, and MK, lest we may carried away by our liking for a particular singer. My fear is that some may omit Geetha and Shamshad. Remember that OP himself rated them as the best of his singers as mentioned in one of the early posts here
    3. We should not be influenced by the popularity or otherwise of the film, song and the actors on whom the song was picturized. I know this last is a bit difficult, as we often like/dislike a song for the actors.
    Hope others too will come forward with their suggestions

    Comment by curao — December 25, 2007 @ 10:13 am | Reply

  880. Siraj ji,
    Surely, you are most welcome and I would be very glad to send you the songs. I dont think I have your email address. I will need that. or is there any other way? They are in mp3 on my PC.
    Out of the two priceless gems, “Jhuka jhukake” is in good condition. The other “Dol mere man”, was recorded on audio cassettte nearly half a century ago from radio ceylon, and then digitized from that old cassette. So, quality is not good but tolerable. For me it is still OK , because in our youth, we used to like songs even from worn out 78rpm. Iam very happy that you too like them. Absolute tops.
    cumrao@yahoo.com, if you like to send me your email addr.
    All the best

    Comment by curao — December 25, 2007 @ 10:31 am | Reply

  881. HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.

    G N MURTY, RAJAHMUNDRY , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — December 25, 2007 @ 11:56 am | Reply

  882. I wish all OP Nayyar fans a Very Happy & Prosperous New Year.

    Comment by Macheendran Keloth — December 26, 2007 @ 5:31 am | Reply

  883. Hello,

    I am back again seeking assistance. If any one of you can help me with the songs from the movie ” Aisa Bhi Hota Hail”. This movie with Deb Mukherjee in the lead role was released in 1970 or 1971. Even if you do not have songs of this movie, I will be happy to hear your comments about this movie or its songs. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna R baru — December 26, 2007 @ 8:26 am | Reply

  884. I don’t see a problem with widening the bucket from Top 10 to Top 20, if it makes the task easier for some of us. I thought the real challenge is to do some soul-searching and select your own favourite Top 10. I started with 300 in my first cut and whipped it down to 10. Its not easy but its not impossible either. I call this a clean-sheet approach and expanding this to 20 should not be difficult for me.

    However, I really feel that we should not make the whole process very complex with many criteria. If 4 out 10 are from one film according to somebody, why should there be a problem with that. Also if the selection is concentrated to any particular singer or the actor picturized on, that too should be OK. After all we are summarizing our own favourites, not dealing with popularity charts or other factors. Lets do some straight-shooting.

    I have already given my comments along with each song on my selection drivers.

    Kaveeta – hopefully we will crank out a OP NAYYAR TOP 20 of sorts by his first death anniversary on Jan 28th. We will probably also cross 1000 comments by that date. Is there something special you can do for that date???

    Siraj Khan
    Khansaheb2@aol.com

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 26, 2007 @ 12:20 pm | Reply

  885. Siraj ji,
    What you said is OK about putting limitations or criteria in the way of selection. In my list, as I said I myself did not follow any. My suggested criteria were: if at all we together decide to have some criteria. Why criteria at all? it is a valid question., but there is no definite answer. Some purpose is served by having and some not served. The main idea is to have a representative collection. If there are a large participation, we will have many lists. Taking out 10 from such lists ensures a representative selection. Dont you agree that the ultimate best 10 of all of us(not mine, nor yours, nor any one single person’s) should be representative of OP’s large variety of songs?
    But can we be sure that we will have large enough participation? If you see the early posts of
    Sachniti, you will find that some of us did make attempts to pick best 10s, but it did not take of. What remained was a few best 10s of a few individuals. Taking my own best 10 then, I filled with many Geethas and early films. So, were others biased in some way or other. These biases will be pronounced if there are only few lists. They wont be so pronounced if there are many. I personally dont feel fettered by any criteria. I can pick the best 10 from just many a single pair of films. But Iam sure that wont do justice to OP by omitting so many of his other great films
    otherwise your suggestion of making it 20 is good.
    But, I do feel we are not going about this whole process in any constructive and methodical way.
    For exmaple: What do we do after getting the lists? How do we pick up the ultimate best 10/20 of them? How do we weight the selected songs? Shoud each select in some order of merit? If not, how should we give points or marks to each of the selected songs? We have not evolved any methodology. The answers to these questions do certainly need some criteria.
    That is all I want to say on this topic.
    Iam sorry if my remarks do not coincide with others’. All this my personal opinion only, not binding on others, who are equally free to express their opinions on these questions.

    Comment by curao — December 26, 2007 @ 10:19 pm | Reply

  886. Hello friends

    I am wondering where some of the most vibrant Sachinitians have disappeared. Where are Gajanan, Shishir, GN Murty our torch bearers, who have enriched this blog so much? Equally important – and I am rarely opinionated on gender issues but I di have an observation to share. The girls have gone!!! If you notice, our #1 post was from Puja in April 2006, when OPN was very much alive. Neha, Yasmin Banu, Niloufer, Pinki Malhotra, Ashwini have all made such interesting contributions, but have been missing in action for some reason. Is that indicative of lack of substance, lack of time available or lack of interest or combination of these? Are you all hiding with Kaveetaa somewhere in purdah?

    OPN would have said

    Zara samne aa, zara ankh mila, tera shukriya kar doon ada

    Don’t worry, you don’t have to share your OPN TOP TEN. Do chip in once in a while. Its a pleasure reading your lines.

    Season’s Greetings all.

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 28, 2007 @ 6:32 am | Reply

  887. On #883 and AISA BHI HOTA HAI

    Dear Krishna et al

    The film was released in 1971 and clearly did not have much steam. Once again OPN came to the rescue with his magic wand. This would probably go down into the archives as athe OPN film with the least number of songs. Despite having only 4 songs, all of them from the top drawer, with the first two clearly outstanding (and were popular too)

    1. Chaand Raaton ko Nikle Na Nikle(Asha) – soft melody in his inimitable beat

    2. Raam Jane Kiski Laage Hai Mujhko(Asha) – superb harmonium accompaniment

    3. Jiska Rakhwala Bhagwaan (Rafi) – devotional but then nothing soul stirring

    4. O Meri Gore Goree Jaan (Kishore)-fast paced though not in typical OPN mould

    Farooq Qaiser penned the lyrics for #3 and SH Bihari did the other 3.

    I hope that was helpful.

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — December 28, 2007 @ 6:59 am | Reply

  888. Dear Kaveeta kaul

    I am in bombay on 31 Decp. Please call me on cell phone 9845123335 so that i can give you two dvds, probably this could be his last interview and hesat throught the programme.
    please excuse for the troubble
    with regards
    Prakash Mool bharati

    Comment by prakash moolbharati — December 30, 2007 @ 11:23 am | Reply

  889. Hello my friends,

    Wishing All of You A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.

    With Warm Regards

    Krishna Baru

    Comment by Krishna R baru — January 1, 2008 @ 6:02 am | Reply

  890. Dear All,

    Wishing All of You A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — January 1, 2008 @ 3:30 pm | Reply

  891. Hello Friends,

    First of all A Happy New Year to all.

    Second of all, sorry for the silence. I was away on vacation.

    I have read through all of the comments. This is just a quick Hi..I shall be responding in detail soon.

    Once again wishing you all a prosperous peaceful and bountiful year ahead.

    Love

    kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 2, 2008 @ 12:52 pm | Reply

  892. […] A blogger compiled some great thoughts on O.P.Nayyar…Not forgotten SachinitiHere’s some of the intersting bits […]

    Pingback by Song Lyrics » Archive du blog » O.P.Nayyar…Not forgotten Sachiniti — January 2, 2008 @ 6:10 pm | Reply

  893. Dear All,

    Reading through the selection of top @0’s made me so nostalgic. The point is I agree with almost all.. which makes it what .. close to 5o..LOL..That is the problem. Like Hemant ji aptly opined ““our likes depend on our mood, time, season and weather too.”..So very true, With O p jis compositions there is one for every phase of your life, every mood and each sentiment. So the list can fluctuate, vary and swing from time to time.

    Which brings to the problem of arriving at a consensus.Is it possible to create a Master list of around 40 or so which is then voted on by readers and the songs with the votes in ascending order is then our final 25?

    Purinder ji.. as expected by you…simply loved your compilation. I would also like to add the numbers from Siraj jis list especially ‘mujhe mera pyar deday’..rising like a phoenix from memories gone by.

    Siraj ji.. Most of our veterans I think are close by and reading everyday even if not commenting. Gajanan ji and Niloufer ji often comment on other posts at Sachiniti. Puja is going through a personal turmoil ..we are in touch. In any case women in the blogosphere are in a minority especially if one is to consider that we are referring to those who may have heard OP ji like we have.

    Mool bharati ji.. I am so sorry I could not get to meet you.I read this comment of yours only after I returned. if you do read this please try and get in touch or mail me, write here again sir..thank you.

    I had a few plans in mind for OP Ji’s anniversary. A singing competition..Sounds great? If those interested could send me their songs on an mpeg file, I could then get it judged by popular singers from our industry Sonu or Shaan. The only problem is that I may not be able to broadcast a podcast here.. I hope I can.What do all of you think? Any ideas?

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 4, 2008 @ 6:01 pm | Reply

  894. Friends,

    Anil Sharma ji left this comment on the post in the all time most read post’ which all of you may not read so am copy pasting it here. Do visit his blogspot.

    Dear Kavee & all other `All Time Great OP Nayyar’ Fans,

    First of all, a very very very Happy New Year to all ! May the year brings what we desire !!

    I am on this site after quite a while. But once here, it’s difficult to resist the temptation of writing. I have just glanced through many comments and surmise that yours ( yes, all of you’rs)and mine own likings of OP’s songs are exactly alike !

    I feel overwhelmed reading that Mr C U M Rao has associated every important phase of his life with one or the other of OP’s songs ! Likewise, it’s immensely solacing to see that we all have same feelings for songs like `Phir miloge kabhi is baat ka wada kar lo ….’.

    So long, then …but, before I close, I request all of you to visit my recently created blogsite titled `poemsinanylanguage.blogspot.com’ meant to invite the creativity in all of you as the site seeks poems in any language of the world written in Roman script.

    with appropriate Regards to you all,
    anil sharma.bhilai se.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 4, 2008 @ 8:31 pm | Reply

  895. Kavita,
    I like the idea of a master list of 40 and then narrowing it down to 25. Nayyar had so many great hits that it would be really difficult to come up with Top 10. Having said that I’ve already developed a list of 30 at this point.

    I also like your idea of the singing competition. What do you think we’d do with it though? Maybe post it on this site as our tribute to Nayyar Sahab?

    Comment by hemant — January 5, 2008 @ 2:00 am | Reply

  896. Hello, all OP Fans,

    First of all, my Thanks are due to Ms Kavita for having copy pasted my comments of 4th Jan on this page !

    My views on how should we remember him on his first death anniversary : I too appreciate the two ideas propounded by Ms kavita (of the `music competition’ & the `top twenty five’).

    In addition, those of us who could, can also organize “Yad-e-OP” nites in our respective towns to make the day immemorable ! The scale & the modus operandi would naturally differ from person to person & from place to place. While some of us might be able to organize it by ourselves or with the help of our respective employers, others may have to involve some social organizations.

    We will, then, post details (with vedios & photos) of these programs to this blog and share it with others !

    Please do consider the proposal.

    Lastly, I again appeal to the creativity in all of us to express itself on my blogsite : “poemsinanylanguage.blogspot.com”

    Wishing Good Times ahead,
    sincerely,
    anil sharma. bhilai se.

    Comment by anil sharma — January 6, 2008 @ 9:51 am | Reply

  897. Firstly, let me express My best wishes to a prosperous and a happy new year to all of you, friends(though late because of my net problem)
    Kaveethaji,
    we all need your guidance and suggestions in doing something, for our maestro’s first “Vardanthi”. I am happy with various suggestions, like singing competition, OPnites, and OP’s all time bests. I like your idea of 40 candidates and choosing the best 25. Many, like me, have expressed difficulties in just choosing individual 10s.
    Then, let us begin in right earnest.
    Dear all OPN fans:
    I suugest the following methodology, partly hinted at by you, Kaveethaji.
    The first step is to compile a master list of songs. I suggest 50 instead of 40 or even No limit. We can just allow it to be as long as it gets, as people add more and more. Let some one start and others keep on adding to that master list. We fix a deadline after which no more would be added. From that date onwards, we post our individual bests(10, 20 , or 25) as we decide by consensus.Let some one start and others keep on adding to that master list. We fix a deadline after which no more would be added. We post the the final master list on that date.
    Then, from this master list, let everyone post his/her best 10,20, or 25, but unlike our previous lists, let them be in the order of merit/priority, in ascending order of merit in her/his best 10. All the ten must be from the master list only. Finally, after all the lists are in, we assign “points” to each song according to its position in different lists. For ex., “Kazra mohobbatwala” is in 3rd postionin one list, 7th in another, and so on… We give 3, 7 and so on points to that particular song. Let us then total the points accruing to each song and list all of them in descending order of total points. you have then the top 10, or 20 or 25 automatically. (this method was of course foloowed by Binaca geeth mala in choosing the best of the year)
    Let some one start and others keep on adding to that master list. We fix a deadline after which no more would be added. From that date onwards, we post our individual bests(10, 20 , or 25) as we decide by consensus.
    But pl., pl., pl., let us start instead of debating endlessly, by some method or other, not necessarily as suggested by me as above. Oh, of coure there may be flaws in my method. If we keep on debating on the methodology itself, we can not finish the task, before the anniversary.
    I suggest Kaveethaji or Sirajji, or Purinderji or someone else to manage this task. Iam ready to help. Please start today itself.
    My Phone Nos. are :(0866)6662901, 9849902901.
    For those living in USA, they can call me free on my vonage phone, No. 1-646-216-9970.
    And my email is :cumrao@yahoo.com

    Comment by curao — January 6, 2008 @ 12:33 pm | Reply

  898. Friends..in response to the above comments here are my suggestions ( open to debate)

    A master list is our top priority. I would like to suggest that Siraj Ji, Purinder ji, Hemant ji put in their lists. Siraj ji please ask O P jis family and friends to contribute with their personal choice as well. It would be interesting.

    Since my knowledge of songs released before ’65 is limited, I dont think I can summon up a comprehensive list to initiate the master but I will put up my top 10 or maybe more.

    Then as Rao ji suggested, we all keep adding with our songs to the master list. We set the deadline for 16th January. After this, voting/ personal top 10 by readers should be sent in, out of which will emerge the final list, depending on the number of votes per song. I volunteer to do the task for final compilation..if so desired.

    About the singing competition..the modalities and logistics are tricky. First, would be dispensing information enough to gather participants. Second the broadcasting..all of which will require a span of time, from enrollment to judgment phase. In order to make it a success, I suggest, that we perhaps announce this competition on O P jis anniversary, with a deadline for entries. Meanwhile I will get in touch with a top personality from Bollywood, to judge the participants …and we will take it from there.

    I would request all of you in your personal capacities to spread the word on this event. I will need all the help.. so each of your feedback and participation is a must. After all its a once a year event, and our tribute to O P ji, let us all chip in our bit.

    On to the master list then..

    Regards

    kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 6, 2008 @ 1:54 pm | Reply

  899. Thank you Kaveethaji, for your initiation and vetting of the project.
    So, let us start without much furher ado. The following is my starting list for the master list, which will serve as the candidates for the final selection. Others please go on adding.
    1. Ai dil e deewane-Geetha-Baaz
    2. Mujhe dekho hasrat-Talat-Baaz
    3. Babuji dhire chalna-Geetha-Aarpaar
    4. Hun abhi mai jawan-Geetha-Aarpaar
    5.Yeh lo mai hari priya-Geetha-Aarpaar
    6.Man more gaa-Asha-Mangu
    7. dol mere man pyarse-Asha-Mangu
    8. Antam phantam-Asha-Hum sub chor hain
    9. Gudya teri raaj me-Asha-Hum sub chor
    10. tumjo hue mere hum-Rafi_Geetha-12’o Clock
    11.Gareeb jaanke-Rafi_Geetha-Choomantar
    12.Khoob soorat sathi-Kishore_Asha-Akalmand
    13.Udhar tum haseen-Rafi_Geetha-Mr. &Mrs. ’55
    14. Thandi hawa kali ghata-Rafi_Geetha- “”””
    15. Yunto humne lakh-Rafi-tumsa nahin
    16. Jawaniya yeh mast-Rafi-tumsa nahin
    17Sarpar topi-Rafi_asha- tumsa nahin
    18. Thandi thandi hawa-Asha_Geetha-Johny walker
    19.Boonz mer kya naamre-Shamshad-CID
    20. Hai dil mushkil-Rafi_Geetha-CID
    21. Ankhon hi ankhonne-Rafi_Geetha-CID
    22.Oh leke pehla pehla-Rafi_Asha_Shamshad-CID
    23.Yahan hum vahan tum-Rafi_Geetha-Shreemati 420
    24. Mai dhundthi hun-Rafi_Asha-Shremathi 420
    25. Kabhi aar kabhi paar-shamshad-Aarpaar
    26. Mangke saath-Rafi_Asha-Naya Daur
    27. Ana hai to aa raah me-Rafi-Naya Daur
    28. Reshmi salwar kurta-Asha_Shamshad-Naya daur
    29.Chori lutere daku-Geetha_Ustad
    30.Darshan kab donge-Rafi-Bhagam bhag
    31. Priya priya priya-Kishore_Asha-Baapre baap
    32. Meri needon me tum-Kishore_Shamshad-Naya andaz
    33. jhuka jhuka hai-Mukhesh-Geetha-Miss coca cola
    34. Jaadugar sanwariya-Asha-Dhake ki mal mal
    35. Yaad karun tori-Suraiya-Mr. Lambu
    I will add more later. At this rate, I reckon, the master list to consist of about 100!! I think it does not matter.

    Comment by curao — January 6, 2008 @ 6:27 pm | Reply

  900. I wonder why my post was not followed up.
    Perhaps my suggestions/methodology is no to the liking of most. Any way I shall add a few more as my next step. I shall also help in coming to the final master list.
    1. Ai dil e deewane-Geetha-Baaz
    2. Mujhe dekho hasrat-Talat-Baaz
    3. Babuji dhire chalna-Geetha-Aarpaar
    4. Hun abhi mai jawan-Geetha-Aarpaar
    5.Yeh lo mai hari priya-Geetha-Aarpaar
    6.Man more gaa-Asha-Mangu
    7. dol mere man pyarse-Asha-Mangu
    8. Antam phantam-Asha-Hum sub chor hain
    9. Gudya teri raaj me-Asha-Hum sub chor
    10. tumjo hue mere hum-Rafi_Geetha-12′o Clock
    11.Gareeb jaanke-Rafi_Geetha-Choomantar
    12.Khoob soorat sathi-Kishore_Asha-Akalmand
    13.Udhar tum haseen-Rafi_Geetha-Mr. &Mrs. ‘55
    14. Thandi hawa kali ghata-Rafi_Geetha- “”””
    15. Yunto humne lakh-Rafi-tumsa nahin
    16. Jawaniya yeh mast-Rafi-tumsa nahin
    17Sarpar topi-Rafi_asha- tumsa nahin
    18. Thandi thandi hawa-Asha_Geetha-Johny walker
    19.Boonz mer kya naamre-Shamshad-CID
    20. Hai dil mushkil-Rafi_Geetha-CID
    21. Ankhon hi ankhonne-Rafi_Geetha-CID
    22.Oh leke pehla pehla-Rafi_Asha_Shamshad-CID
    23.Yahan hum vahan tum-Rafi_Geetha-Shreemati 420
    24. Mai dhundthi hun-Rafi_Asha-Shremathi 420
    25. Kabhi aar kabhi paar-shamshad-Aarpaar
    26. Mangke saath-Rafi_Asha-Naya Daur
    27. Ana hai to aa raah me-Rafi-Naya Daur
    28. Reshmi salwar kurta-Asha_Shamshad-Naya daur
    29.Chori lutere daku-Geetha_Ustad
    30.Darshan kab donge-Rafi-Bhagam bhag
    31. Priya priya priya-Kishore_Asha-Baapre baap
    32. Meri needon me tum-Kishore_Shamshad-Naya andaz
    33. jhuka jhuka hai-Mukhesh-Geetha-Miss coca cola
    34. Jaadugar sanwariya-Asha-Dhake ki mal mal
    35. Yaad karun tori-Suraiya-Mr. Lambu
    I have copied the previous list and adding a few more, continuing the serial nos.
    I suggest others also do the same so that there wont be duplications.
    36. Puchon na hamen-Asha-Mittime sona
    37.Priya priya na lage mora-Asha-Fagun
    38.Jaye na pahad kahin-Asha-Mujrim
    39.Mera naam chin chin chu-Geetha-Howrah bridge
    40.Intki tukki panka ikka-Rafi-Howrah bridge
    41. Kajra mohobbat wala-Kisma
    42.Chehreto jara anchal-MK_Asha-Ek bar mushkurado
    43.Chal akela-mukhesh-Samabandh
    44.Bekasi hudse jab-Asha-Kalpana
    45.Kabhi andhera kabhi ujala(Title song)-Asha-Kabhi andhera kabhi ujala
    46. Be dard preet nahin jani-Asha_Usha-Qaidi(I dont have this song)

    Comment by curao — January 8, 2008 @ 7:52 am | Reply

  901. We are into the 900s now.

    I have another idea to spike up things a bit. Once we have compiled our TOP 25, what if we compare that with the maestro’s very own personal favourites. It took me almost two years to compile OPN’s own TOP 20 during our conversations. I used to note down which song he mentions most – some in the context of orchestration, some for their melody, others for lyrics or voice modulation, a few late bloomers which he started to like later, when he did not think much of them when composed originally. I also recall two which he liked only for the picturization. Let me know what you all think.

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 8, 2008 @ 8:13 am | Reply

  902. Dear Kaveeta

    Please refer to post #545

    Is there any way, we can give greater visibility to lyricist SH Bihari’s poetic dedication to OP Nayyar – words which which best capture the profile of the man and his music. More importantly, a dedication made when OP Nayyar had still not called it a day.

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 8, 2008 @ 8:40 am | Reply

  903. Have been somewhat out of circulation as my wife and I have been on vacation-travelling a fair amount in the US and Central America.. This time away from home has been a rewarding one as I have also had the opportunity of talking with and getting to know better, both Siraj and Krishna, on their home turf. Absolutely wonderful to make friends, purely on the basis of the ‘common denominator’ called OP Nayyar.

    Talking of OP ,once the TOP 20 or TOP 25 or even the TOP 50 is determined, would it at all be possible to somehow bring out a commemerative CD incorporating these songs? This collection would be invaluable to many of the contributors to this superb blog.[Kaveetaa ji, take a bow!]. I will be happy to provide songs which I might have in my collection. This collection essentially comprises almost all the songs from OP’s first 50 movies-namely upto Yeh Raat Phir Nahi Ayegi [1966]

    As someone said- let’s act instead of just talking and do something meaningful. Once again can one impose on Kaveetaa ji to take the lead and coordinate? It is a big ask, but Kaveetaa ji asked for it by getting us all together. Bless her!!

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 8, 2008 @ 12:31 pm | Reply

  904. Dear Siraj Khan Saheb,

    Thanks for your information on the songs from the movie “AISA BHI HOTA HAI” (comment # 887). I vaguely recollect Kishore’s song from this movie. You can easily guess my next request. Please confirm if you have these songs in your collection. I can wait until we see each other some time in the summer. By the by, I have a copy of video cassette of Jaali Note for you. Send me your address and I can get it to you by mail. Talk to you this weekend.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 8, 2008 @ 5:18 pm | Reply

  905. Hello all
    I have been reading comments and suggestions from all of you in respect to Top 10, Top 20 and so on. From my perspective, it’s difficult and if not impossible, to choose Top 10 because OP ji has given us so many outstanding compositions. Even the last movie “Zid” has a few songs which you can enjoy listening to them every day. Every day without fail, I am going on Youtube and playing the two Zid songs made available there by courtesy of CUM Rao ji.

    Of course, we can choose Top 10 or 20 by consensus.

    I am working on Top 40.

    Kaveeta ji, I am just wondering who is bearing the costs associated with the maintenance of this site/blog. The more comments are added, additional memory is needed to address the additional storage needs. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 8, 2008 @ 5:37 pm | Reply

  906. Kaveet ji,

    If there is any way we can be of some assistance to you in the maintenance and upgrade of this blog, please let us know. I have some ideas which can be discussed among us. Specific ideas I can share later. Thanks for your time.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 8, 2008 @ 11:16 pm | Reply

  907. Siraj Ji with ref to #545.. I have created a podcast. Perhaps that nazm can be recited on it along with the compilation of his songs.

    Purinder ji I liked the idea of a commemorative cd. We can begin by including his songs on the podcast if each is sent on an mp3 file. More than an hour of songs can be easily downloaded.Once the final list is ready, this could be a plausible poa.Thanks for your kind words.. you really have a way with them which is so touching.

    What about Siraj ji and your list? Siraj ji comparing with O P jis fave is also interesting. ..maybe a separate compilation?

    Krishna ji your concern is so appreciated. But there are no costs involved at the moment. ..please do not worry at all on that score.

    Any other ideas?

    Regards to all

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 8, 2008 @ 11:28 pm | Reply

  908. Let’s exclude from our top-25 list the tunes that are not original. Check out the web site below that shows the tunes copied by some of the music directors. Anu Malik, R.D. Burman, Nadim Shravan, and Rajesh Roshan have the most followed by Bhappi Lehri, Jatin Lalit, etc. OP and KA have the least.

    http://www.itwofs.com/hindi-rdb.html

    Comment by hemant — January 9, 2008 @ 12:33 am | Reply

  909. I like the ideas of Sirajji and purinderji.
    Unquestionably, it will be interesting to compare our selection with that of Nayyar himself.
    After we arrive at a consensus on 10/20/25 or even the best 100, we can bring out a CD in mp3 format, solely for private distribution amongst us only. I fear there might be a copy right infringement if we do it on a public site.
    What is your opinion Kaveethaji?

    Comment by curao — January 9, 2008 @ 6:18 pm | Reply

  910. Well, I am glad that my idea of OPN TOP 10 took off and has blossomed into something with a much wider spectrum that I had visualized. Ican see many are working with their TOP 50s, 40s, 25s. My TOP 10 extracted out of 500 OPN greats remains unchanged.

    A commemorative CD is a great idea! I am sure that our FINAL selection would include some after 1966 and perhaps others could provide those from their archives which Purinder is unable to come up with.

    Kaveetaa, can we spin-off a OPN website which can piggy-back on this blog? We can list the song titles, filmography, pictures, stories, trivia etc. Between us, we can raise funds, if required. Krishna Baru had indicated to contribute much earlier and him and myself have discussed this on the telephone here in the USA.

    What are your thoughts on this? This could be our next project.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 10, 2008 @ 5:16 am | Reply

  911. Hello All,

    Youtube has a few more additions. The latest is the video clip of OP ji’s birthday. A few songs from the movie “Kalpna” have been added. As of now Youtube has about 150 songs of OP ji. I hope one day all songs of this great music director will be on Youtube.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 10, 2008 @ 7:51 am | Reply

  912. Hemant ji #908 sounds valid

    Curao ji I dont see a problem there. The idea would be to compile them online on a podcast and download the contents into a commemorative cd, which in effect is only a compilation of Mp3 downloads of O P jis songs which is ubiquitous across the net in any case.
    The problem I am foreseeing as of now is getting to that list..:) more lists wanted to access maximum consensus.

    Where are shishir ji, arun ji, Vinod ji, so many more.. Please come we are missing you guys.

    Siraj Ji.. of course a website can be constructed. There are two ways.. either wordpress hosted like this one or self hosted which does not just encompass buying a domain name which is the least of the problems, it is finding an engineer to construct the site..the reason I have so long delayed from self hosting my website too. A professional has to be involved which means allocation of great amount of time, which sometimes is in short supply.But I am sure we will work something around it.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 10, 2008 @ 8:30 pm | Reply

  913. Dear Kaveetaa

    Re #907. At first I thought I could work my way towards Mrs SH Bihari doing that. However, I soon had second thoughts on that idea because she may not be very receptive to undergo the whole process.

    Yeh meri dili khwahish ho gee ke aaap, apni meethi awaaz mein ye nazm podcast mein utaar dein. Aap ke blog mein chaar chaand lag jaen ge.

    This would also give an additional personal touch from you to the overall scheme of things.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 10, 2008 @ 11:05 pm | Reply

  914. Hi, all fans of OPN. Sorry for joining late. I am also fan of OPN and various other maestrs like Khemchand Prakash, Buloci Rani, Sajjad Husain plus…. list is endless.

    Regarding OPN none of the hardcore OPN fans have posted this information that–OPN was the only music director who composed songs of six movies starring Madhubalaji. The name of movies goes like this—Hawrah Bridge, Dhake ki Malmal, Phagun, Mr. & Mrs 55, Jaali Note and Do ustaad.

    This information also conveyed to Mr. Siraj Khan of USA and Mr Rao of Vijaywada.

    my email is: asianenterprise135@yahoo.com

    Comment by SC Bhatia — January 11, 2008 @ 4:25 pm | Reply

  915. Here’re my list of top 40 Nayyar Songs (not necessary in order of preference)

    1. Aap Ke Hasin Rukh – Bahare Phir Bhi Aiyagi
    2. Aachal May Saja Le – Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon
    3. Aankhon Se Jo Utri Hai Dil May – Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon
    4. Huzore Wala Jo Ho Ijazat – Yeh Raat Phir Ne Aiyagi
    5. Mera Pyar Who Hai – Yeh Raat Phir Ne Aiyagi
    6. Jaaiye Aap Kahan Jaye Gi – Mere Sanam
    7. Yeh Hai Rashmi – Mere Sanam
    8. Aaieye Meharban – Howrah Bridge
    9. Aao Huzor Tum Ko – Kismat
    10. Bikanar Ki Chunri – Pran Jaye Per Vachhan Na Jaye
    11. Dekho Aare Dilbar – Pran Jaye Per Vachhan Na Jaye
    12. Aaja Mere Pyar Ke Sahare – Hum Saya
    13. Badi Mushkil Se Kabu May – Hum Saya
    14. Hoton Pe Hasi Aankhon May Nasha – Sawan Ki Ghata
    15. Khuda Huzor Ko Mere – Sawan Ki Ghata
    16. Hoon Abhi Main Jawan – Aar Par
    17. Balma Khuli Hawa – Kashmir Ki Kali
    18. Jata Kahan Hai Diwane – CID
    19. Jinhay Ho Pyar Sanam – Taxi Driver
    20. Pyar Karte Ho Yaar – Taxi Driver
    21. Jane Tammana Kya Kar Dala – CID 909
    22. Jo Diya Tha Tum Ne Mujko – Sambandh
    23. Zamane Ki Aankhon Ne – Ek Baar Muskura Do
    24. Mujhe Dekh Kar Aap ka Muskurana – Ek Musafir Ek Hasina
    25. Manasukha Madhu Kalasham – Neerajanam
    26. Tumhara Chahnewala – Kahin Din Kahin Raat
    27. Fashion Se Jena Fashion Se Marna – Shirimanji
    28. Poocho Na Hamein Ham Unke Liye – Mitti Mein Sona
    29. Tere Aakhon Ne In Akhonse – Nasihat
    30. Chhun Chhun Ghunghro – Phagun
    31. Tum Sabse Hasin Ho – Mohabbat Zindagi Hai
    32. Booj Mera Kya Naam Hai – CID
    33. Aaye Hai Door Se – Tumsa Nahin Dekha
    34. Kajra Mohabat Wala – Kismat
    35. Diwana Hua Badal – Kashmir Ki Kali
    36. Mai Tujko Maut De Do – Hera Moti
    37. Khune Jigar Se– Zid
    38. Tera Nikhra Nikhra Chehra – CID 909
    39. Prema Velasindh – Neerajanam
    40. Hamne Jab Dil Tha Diya Koi Wada Kiya – Choomantar

    Comment by hemant — January 12, 2008 @ 4:39 am | Reply

  916. Rather Here’s my list .. ……

    Comment by hemant — January 12, 2008 @ 4:39 am | Reply

  917. I am giving my TOP 20.

    1.Chain se hum ko kabhi…(Pran Jaye per vach..)
    2.Yeh Desh hai veer…(Naya Daur)
    3.Jamane ki ankho se..(Ek baar musku ra do)
    4.Anchal mein saja lena.. (Phir wohi dil..)
    5.Jayeeye aap kahan jayenge..(Mere Sanam)
    6.Kabhi aar kabhi paar..(Aar Paar)
    7.Leke pehla pehla pyar..(CID)
    8.Dil ki awaj bhi sun..(Hum saya)
    9.Yun to hamne laakh..(Tum sa nehin dekha)
    10.Tum jo hue mere hamsafar..(Mr & Mrs 55)
    11. Preetam aan milo (Mr & Mrs 55 version)
    12. Diya to jala sari raat re..(Dake ki malmal)
    13. Aayeye Meherban..(Howra Bridge)
    14. Mang ke saath tumhara..(Naya Daur)
    15. Deewana Hua baadal…(Kashmir ki kali)
    16. Roop tera aisa..(Ek baar musku rado)
    17. Mera Pyar wo hai ke..(Yeh raat phir…)
    18. Pukarta Chala hun main…(Mere Sanam)
    19. Ninu chudaka nenundalenu..(Neerajanam-Telugu
    20. Kahin pe nigahen..(CID)

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — January 12, 2008 @ 10:46 am | Reply

  918. Siraj Ji #913.. Most willingly.. I will do it.

    Moreover aapne itne pyar se farmaya hai ki taalna namumkin hai.

    Friends.. more lists needed..

    16th is O P jis birthday..what do you all suggest for that day?

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 12, 2008 @ 12:57 pm | Reply

  919. All going very very well ! My compliments !! I would also soon contribute to the lists.

    But, I am li’l surprized. There are no responses to my suggestion of organizing `Yad-e-OP’nites on 28th Jan. That would mean a lot more publicity and permanent record of our feelings for him in the form of videos and photos.

    Ms Kaul has invited our suggestions for the Birth Day celebrations of `ATG OPN’ falling on 16th Jan. I suggest we may organize the `OP Nites’anywhere between 16th & 28th Jan.

    With the kind of zeal that we all have towards the issue, we may end up organizing a large number of programs. Those of his fans who are in the US or elsewhere outside India, the scale may even be limited to `within-the-household’ ! But, we should make all efforts to record the event to share it with the world later !

    with regards,
    anil sharma. bhilai se.

    Comment by anil sharma — January 12, 2008 @ 5:27 pm | Reply

  920. I am sorry. i do not seem to be in the general drift. And I could not understand the use and ultimate goal of the lists. do they contribute to the master list as Kaveetaji originally envisaged? Or, are the ultimate selections of best 10/20/40/…….?
    In whatever way it is used, iam resubmitting my list with more additions.
    1. Ai dil e deewane-Geetha-Baaz
    2. Mujhe dekho hasrat-Talat-Baaz
    3. Babuji dhire chalna-Geetha-Aarpaar
    4. Hun abhi mai jawan-Geetha-Aarpaar
    5.Yeh lo mai hari priya-Geetha-Aarpaar
    6.Man more gaa-Asha-Mangu
    7. dol mere man pyarse-Asha-Mangu
    8. Antam phantam-Asha-Hum sub chor hain
    9. Gudya teri raaj me-Asha-Hum sub chor
    10. tumjo hue mere hum-Rafi_Geetha-12′o Clock
    11.Gareeb jaanke-Rafi_Geetha-Choomantar
    12.Khoob soorat sathi-Kishore_Asha-Akalmand
    13.Udhar tum haseen-Rafi_Geetha-Mr. &Mrs. ‘55
    14. Thandi hawa kali ghata-Rafi_Geetha- “”””
    15. Yunto humne lakh-Rafi-tumsa nahin
    16. Jawaniya yeh mast-Rafi-tumsa nahin
    17Sarpar topi-Rafi_asha- tumsa nahin
    18. Thandi thandi hawa-Asha_Geetha-Johny walker
    19.Boonz mer kya naamre-Shamshad-CID
    20. Hai dil mushkil-Rafi_Geetha-CID
    21. Ankhon hi ankhonne-Rafi_Geetha-CID
    22.Oh leke pehla pehla-Rafi_Asha_Shamshad-CID
    23.Yahan hum vahan tum-Rafi_Geetha-Shreemati 420
    24. Mai dhundthi hun-Rafi_Asha-Shremathi 420
    25. Kabhi aar kabhi paar-shamshad-Aarpaar
    26. Mangke saath-Rafi_Asha-Naya Daur
    27. Ana hai to aa raah me-Rafi-Naya Daur
    28. Reshmi salwar kurta-Asha_Shamshad-Naya daur
    29.Chori lutere daku-Geetha_Ustad
    30.Darshan kab donge-Rafi-Bhagam bhag
    31. Priya priya priya-Kishore_Asha-Baapre baap
    32. Meri needon me tum-Kishore_Shamshad-Naya andaz
    33. jhuka jhuka hai-Mukhesh-Geetha-Miss coca cola
    34. Jaadugar sanwariya-Asha-Dhake ki mal mal
    35. Yaad karun tori-Suraiya-Mr. Lambu
    I have copied the previous list and adding a few more, continuing the serial nos.
    I suggest others also do the same so that there wont be duplications.
    36. Puchon na hamen-Asha-Mittime sona
    37.Priya priya na lage mora-Asha-Fagun
    38.Jaye na pahad kahin-Asha-Mujrim
    39.Mera naam chin chin chu-Geetha-Howrah bridge
    40.Intki tukki panka ikka-Rafi-Howrah bridge
    41. Kajra mohobbat wala-Kisma
    42.Chehreto jara anchal-MK_Asha-Ek bar mushkurado
    43.Chal akela-mukhesh-Samabandh
    44.Bekasi hudse jab-Asha-Kalpana
    45.Kabhi andhera kabhi ujala(Title song)-Asha-Kabhi andhera kabhi ujala
    46. Be dard preet nahin jani-Asha_Usha-Qaidi(I dont have this song)
    47.Pukarta chalahun-Mere sanam
    48. Jaayiye aap kahan-Mere sanam
    49.Pyar par basto nahin-Soneki chidiya-Talat or Asha-Both are equally of the top drawer
    50.Raat bharka hai mehman-Soneki chidiya
    51. ninu chudaka nenundalenu-Neerajanam
    52. Prema valsindi-Neerajanam
    53. Mai mai quartoon- Mr. Quartoon M.A
    54.Ratonko chori chori-Mohobbat zindagi hai
    55.Tumhara chahne wale-Kahi din kahi raat
    56.Dekho are dilbar-Pran jaye
    57. Mera pyar woh hai-Yeh raat phir
    58. Hath ayya hai-Yeh raat phir
    59.Aap se maine-Yeh raat phir
    60.Ankhonse ujri-Phir wohi dil
    61.Nazneen bada rangeen-Phir wohi dil
    62.Priya mai hun patang-Raagini
    63.Chotasa balma-Raagini
    64. Mai bangla chokra-Raagini
    65.Jo dilki tadapna jane-Sawanki ghata
    66.Jara holle holle-sawanki ghata
    67.Jhute balma-Shreemanji
    68.Tujhe pyar karlu-Zid
    69.Bekasi hadse jab-Kalpana
    70.Balam har jane-Taxi driver
    72.Baalma saajna-Akalmand
    73.Khoobsurat sathi-Akalmand
    74. dlto pehle se-Bahare phir bhi
    75.Koi kehde kehde-Bahare phirbhi
    76.Dekho jadu bhare more-Aasman
    77.Dhadka to hoga dil-C.I.D.909
    78. yaar badshah-C.I.D.909
    79.Nadika kina ho-C.I.D.909
    80.Humne jab dil tha diya-Choomantar
    81.Humpe dil laya-Do ustad
    82.Badi mushkilse qhwabonne-humsaya
    83.Aap yuhi agarse-Ek musafir
    84.Bahut shukriya-ek musafir
    85.Mai pyaka rahi hun-Ek musafir
    86.Aapka mushkurana-Ek musafir
    Well, I am stopping here, not because there are no more i want to include.
    I just want to know. something. After we arrive at the best by consensus, Are they to be just made available on a web site or blog? OR, is it envisaged to burn them all to a CD and distribute amongst us?

    Comment by curao — January 8, 2008 @ 7:52 am

    Comment by curao — January 12, 2008 @ 7:20 pm | Reply

  921. I am sorry there were 1 or 2 duplicated. khoob surat sathi is one

    Comment by curao — January 12, 2008 @ 7:23 pm | Reply

  922. #912 kaveetaji, am too busy these days to participate….shall definitely becum active as sn as i get time….thnx for not forgetting me….

    #914 i beg ur pardon bhatia sahab…OP wasn’t the only MD to compose for maximum (6) madhubala starrers…there wr others too…here’s the list –

    ghulam mohammad – 1.parayi aag (1947) / 2.paaras (1949) / 3.hanste ansoo (1950) / 4.pardes (1950) / 5.nazneen (1951) / 6.rail ka dibba (1953)

    SDB – 1.chittor vijay (1947) / 2.dil ki rani (1947) / 3.armaan (1953) / 4.kaala paani (1958) / 5.chalti ka naam gaadi (19580 / 6.insaan jaag utha (1959)

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 12, 2008 @ 10:54 pm | Reply

  923. Hello my dear friends of the OP NAYYAR extended family

    I am taking the liberty today of using this platform for another wonderful person. I realize that we basically ride this vehicle to share the passion for OP NAYYAR and his timeless music. However, as we have shared our sentiments on this forum for some other great personalities of the world of Bollywood music, here is a story worth reading and knowing.

    MUBARAK BEGUM

    Do you recall these songs of the yesteryears, when it wasn’t quite the Bollywood it is of today

    • Kabhi tanhayon mein yun hamari yaad ayegi
    • Mujhko apne galay laga lo ae mere hamrahi
    • Kuch ajnabi se aap hein, kuch ajnabi se hum
    • Hum haale dil sunaenge, suniye ke na suniye
    • Bemurawwat bewafa beganae dil aap hein
    • Nigahon se dil mein chale ayeeye ga

    These are some of the many gems coming from the soulful voice and refreshing repertoire of Mubarak Begum, who sang for many Indian films in the 50s and 60s. Unfortunately, she was unable to make it big time, because of the powerful influence on the producers and music directors wielded by two sisters who we also revere. Sadly, many of the stories we have heard are true.

    Mubarak Begum is barely alive and lives in Mumbai. I say barely because despite being in her late 70s and with multiple health issues herself, she is having a hard time keeping her head above water with little or no income and is additionally saddled with the responsibility of taking care of her 40 year old daughter Shafiq Bano, who is suffering from acute Parkinson’s Disease. The singer’s husband died many years ago and her only son is a cab driver who lives separately with his family. She would have been in even deeper waters, had it not been for poet Javed Akhtar and the late Sunil Dutt, who by their efforts made a strong case and managed to secure a Government flat for her to have a roof on her head. Mubarak Begum is a forgotten story who has been systematically plucked and put away by the film industry, despite her immense talent.

    I am able to tell you Mubarak Begum’s story of survival only because after valiant efforts of many years, I recently managed to track her down. My delight in getting through to her was short-lived because, as our conversation progressed and more was divulged, my heart sank on learning of her present circumstances. Her story dragged me down but her voice was fresh as ever, like the clear sound of a mountain stream. The depressing surrounding circumstances had obviously been unable to contaminate the gift that God has given her in abundance. Her voice is so rich in melody even when she speaks, that I could not help requesting her to sing a few lines of Kabhi tanhaiyon mein yun hamari yaad ayegi. To my utter surprise she actually agreed and when I thanked her for those few minutes when I was on cloud nine, she said that she did it only because my voice sounded like Amin Sayani’s. This is the first time I had heard anything like that for my croaky voice, but as it came from someone no less than Mubarak Begum herself, I humbly accepted the compliment.

    But now on a more serious note. Dear friends, I feel that we should join hands and help her in her plight, but without hurting her pride and integrity. I have her address and bank account details. Please send her directly whatever financial assistance comes to your mind. Alternatively, I plan to send her a wire transfer on January 31st and, if you prefer, you could send your contributions to me and I will consolidate them and make a combined remittance to her through Western Union.

    Mubarak Begum
    Savings Account No 10279255298
    State Bank of India, Jogeshwari (W), Branch # 26793293
    Mumbai 400102 INDIA

    Address

    Sultanabad Chirag Housing Society
    Bldg #22, 1st Floor, Flat C-111
    Behram Baug Road
    Jogeshwari (W), Mumbai 400102, INDIA

    If you so desire, please try and give her a call – with my reference. You will enjoy talking to her. For those of you Mumbaiwallas, you should even meet her.

    Have a wonderful day

    Musically yours

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 12, 2008 @ 11:23 pm | Reply

  924. Madhubala and OP Nayyar

    Ref Posts ##914 and 922

    Dear Suresh

    Your statement may not be 100% correct (as Shishir so correctly pointed out) but it opens the window to an interesting aspect of OPN’s personality. Madhubala and OPN were very fond of each other. In fact, I have a picture of them together which is a true portrayal of that wisdom where somebody said that a picture is worth a thousand words. We all know that OPN was quite dashing in his younger days (and I thought even at 80)and Madhubala had jokingly edged OPN several times to take up acting and that she would work free if he was in the male lead. OPN obviously never took those remarks seriously. However, Madhubala gave “discounts” in her own remuneration to the producers of Do Ustaad and Jaali Note, for taking OPN as the music director. One of her famous quotes is ” Nayyar Saab may not be the greatest music director of India, but he sure is the best looking one”. Jaali Note with Dev Anand, released in 1960, was their last film together and had lovely songs. All of SDB’s films were released prior to Jaali Note and their overall commercial success was nowhere close to the films with OPN.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 13, 2008 @ 12:03 am | Reply

  925. Siraj and shishir,
    You have abundant knowledge of Hindi films

    Comment by curao — January 13, 2008 @ 11:55 am | Reply

  926. The response to the suggestion of identifying and listing out the favourite songs of OP Nayyar has been encouraging. I had contibuted my 10 favourites in post # 873.

    Some of lesser known songs OP Nayyar’s are probably as good if not a little better than his popular and well-known songs. From this repertoire of “rare gems” , I have selected 10 songs, which I would like to add to my list of favourites. So here goes:

    11. Kuch kuch hone laga; Asha & Shamshad; Dhake ki malmal
    12. Achha ji maaf kar do; Rafi & Geeta; Musafirkhana
    13. Bhool ja ye dil; Asha; Hum sab chor hain
    14. Tum zara si baat pe khafa na ho; Rafi & Suraiya; Mr Lambu
    15. Aaj maine jaana ; Asha;Farishta
    16. Baithe baithe door se ; Asha; Mujrim
    17. Kiske liye bekaraar gori aaj tera pyaar; Rafi & Asha;Ustad
    18. Dil tera diwana o mastani bulbul; Geeta & Asha; Mr Cartoon M.A.
    19. Chori chori ek ishaara ho gaya ; Rafi & Asha; Basant
    20. Baahon ko zara lehara de; Manna Dey & Asha; Kabhi Andhera kabhi ujala

    Should any of the songs in my list eventually find a place in the ‘master list’ for inclusion in the commerative CD, I will need your guidance, Kaveetaa ji, on how to proceed further.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 13, 2008 @ 8:05 pm | Reply

  927. In post # 918, Kaveetaa ji has asked ” 16th Jan is O P jis birthday..what do you all suggest for that day?”.
    Fortuitously, and co-incidentally, Siraj in post # 923 has high-lighted the poignant facts about the legendary Mubarak Begum. If any of us OP fans can do something, however modest, for Mubarak Begum , I guess that it would be one way to celebrate OP Nayyar’s birthday.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 13, 2008 @ 8:35 pm | Reply

  928. Cu Rao ji, as clarified earlier on #912 the plan is to have a consensus on the best 20-25 from a master list create a podcast and a commemorative cd. I think we should work on the master list which should not get too unwieldy, if long. perhpas the top 50-60 and then halved. The challenge would be to find all the songs on the final list in mp3 format to be uploaded on the podcast. so i think that should also be kept in mind while compiling the final list.

    More lists needed please 🙂

    I wrote to Ashwini Karandikar, O P ji’s adopted daughter asking for her list as well. But there has been no response so far.

    Siraj ji, it was so distressing to read of Mubarak begum jis plight. I have been thinking of it ever since. Besides all else, do you think I could write of it on a yahoo group of around 8000 of which I am a member of and also on Facebook? I would also like to email my contacts. I wanted to enquire from you to avoid even a semblance of hurt to her pride and dignity. I am sure she can do with all the help we can summon.

    Purinder ji.. I liked your idea of making O P jis birthday a day of remembrance towards him via support to a fellow legend like Mubarak ji. I am sure it would have met with assent from him as well.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 14, 2008 @ 1:25 pm | Reply

  929. Dear Kaveeta

    On Mubarak Begum – well, we have it on here and I have emailed to my contacts and responses have started to trickle in.

    Personally, I see no problem in a wider circulation. If nothing else we would be lighting a fire under the chairs of those people who sideline such talent, by leaving them by the wayside due to their own hidden mandate and increasing the general awareness of the flip side of the glittering Bollywood.

    However, I suggest that you call her and take her feeler on that too. We can then fire all cylinders – a woman to woman talk of sorts.

    As far as OP Nayyar is concerned I can say with absolute assurance that he was one man who supported struggling and retired musicians throughout his life, including chorus singers. He has left a will which states that all his royalties from SaReGaMa after his death should continue to applied as was in his life. OP Nayyar Foundation is handling that.

    I know that he used to call Shamshad Begum, Mubarak Begum, Mrs SH Bihari etc. and others off and on to find out of their welfare, even when he himself was going through his ups and downs.

    I therefore endorse Purinder’s idea totally.

    I have always felt that the death anniversary of anyone somehow waters down the birthday. Perhaps because death is so overwhelming and engulfs everything else with it and consequently the birthday loses its significance. For OP Nayyar, this brings us mixed feelings as these dates are so close to each other in this month.

    I suggest that rather than waiting for Ashwini, please interview Rani Nakhwa, who spent every minute of his last 11 years with the master, taking care of him within the warmth and cosiness of her home with her family. She adopted OPN as her father. If you send me your email/telephone, I would be pleased to send you her contact.

    Siraj Khan
    Boston, USA
    Khansaheb2@aol.com
    1-978-621-8030

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 14, 2008 @ 7:59 pm | Reply

  930. kaveetaji,
    I intentionally made a long list, for the master list, so as to include all possible candidates. there is nothing sacrosanct about my list. you can see from the few selctions of top 10s we already have, many forgotten, rare and unlikely were included. It can be extended or curtailed as you like. However,I still feel it can be long, as it is only a temporary platform from which the final list of 1/20/25 can be launched.
    And then,
    Once the consensus best is arrived, I offer to make as many CDs as required of those best in mp3 format, if the songs I dont have are supplied to me in any format(cassettes, WAV. Ogg vorbis,or wma . I can convert to mp3 and burn them to CDs.
    Siraj ji,
    Pl count me in for the benefit of Mubarak begum. device a way how we can do this without hurting her pride and dignity.
    Purinderji,
    Your list is very interesting to say the least. Most of them are my favorites too. Sometimes, I feel shy to mention such rarely appreciated songs,lest my choice/taste will be ridiculed.
    Some of OPs rock’n rolls belong to this class. Most notable being “Mai hun mr. johny” of maibaap. My other favorites, besides so many given in the master list, are: Hojjo hukm to meherbaan, and mohobbat karnewala from hong kong, chale ho kahan from bhagam bhag, Zhuki zhuki nazar from Johny walker(I dont have this song unfortunately), Jane jigar hai hai(from which film?), Jaane jigar from Mujrim, Dekh idhar oh hasina and Ajiyo jiyatho from 12’oclock, Ruk ruk ruk from do ustad and many more like that.
    BTW, do you have 11, 15, 17 and 18 in your list? I will be very thankful if you can send them to me. I have others in your list.

    Comment by curao — January 15, 2008 @ 1:39 pm | Reply

  931. hello all,i honestly confess that i have not been able to read the entire comments posted above.i just wanted to vent out my deep respect and regards for all o p nayyar saab’s fans.i have grown up knowing and listening to his songs from my father and his gang who worshiped the path op saab walked.his tunes can and will always rejuvenate energy.i used to think that only my dad is the biggest fan of op saab but i m glad to see more..my dads all time favourite song is poochon na hamein from mitti mein sona.can anyone tell me if i could listen to the song online or how can i down load it.my dad misplaced this collection and is very dejected as it is not available in most of the stores.this could probably be his best birthday gift from me ever.

    Comment by thilaka — January 15, 2008 @ 1:42 pm | Reply

  932. Dear Siraj ji,

    I am glad that is settled. 16th Jan will be Mubarak begum day to commemorate the memory of O p Ji.. We will all do what we can, financially, spreading the message, whatever. About talking with her.. I dont have the number.

    About Ashwini, we had been in touch occasionally when she invited me as a Facebook and Orkut friend. I guess she must be busy therefore has not responded. As for Rani…why not? It would be so nice to have here here sharing her views and life. My email is on the “About” page ..In any case it is kavitaok AT gmail.com. Please do request her to get in touch.

    Cu Rao ji.. It is your call totally Sir.

    Thilaka.. welcome. Rest assured your quandary will be solved by our veterans here.. and your birthday gift to your Dad will be realised soon. What a loving son you are..that is nice. Aashirwaad from parents is the grace that keeps our lives afloat. Collect abundantly.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 15, 2008 @ 6:12 pm | Reply

  933. #931 thilaka, u can listen not only ‘poochho na hamein…’ but many other op songs online on http://www.musicindiaonline.com…enjoy…...

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 15, 2008 @ 11:02 pm | Reply

  934. Dear Kaveetaa ji,

    I understood from Siraj’s email message [ sent to many of his friends, and also to me!!] that Madam Mubarak Begum’s phone number is : 0091-22-26787459. Trust that you can use it and make a difference .Cheers.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 16, 2008 @ 5:49 pm | Reply

  935. Dear Mr CU Rao,

    In your post#930, you have asked about availability of certain songs. I do have them, but need to devise a way to get them to you. Perhaps, we can communicate further by email?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 16, 2008 @ 5:52 pm | Reply

  936. Purinder ji..thanks. Siraj ji has been in touch and mailed me her number. Meanwhile I tried to do my modest bit in getting the word around on Mubarak ji. I just spoke with her and she was being interviewed by Sahara Tv..so talk has got around. Hopefully things will be ‘mubarak’ from now on..we have to persist. She invited me over..maybe I will soon pay her a visit as well.

    regards

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 16, 2008 @ 6:30 pm | Reply

  937. Purinderji,
    Thank you very much for yr kind reply to my request. I cant express how happy I will be in collecting those songs that I my self could not get, of those old early films of Nayyar.
    i will get to u by email.
    Heello Thilaka, welcome aboard.
    If you can give yr email addr to me, I can send poochon na hamen, in mp3 form to you as attachment.
    my email addr is cumrao@yahoo.com

    Comment by curao — January 16, 2008 @ 8:55 pm | Reply

  938. Hello Siraj ji and other highly knowledgeable people on the board here,
    Can some one enlighten me on these?
    1. What happened to Premlata who sang a duet with lata that famous song “chup chup khadi ho jarur koi”
    2. Who was Chic chocolate, a composer to Naadan(as far as I know), in which I have 2 excellent songs, Aa teri tasweer banalun by Talat and Roshni apni by Nurjehan
    3. I believe the following songs are of OPN. but after all these years, I forgot from what films. a)Dhir tu mai raat jawan by Geetha (b)Dilki hue ghataye by Rafi_Asha (c)Pyarme thokar ban gaye hum din tara tararam by Rafi-Geetha(I think Rafi_Geetha) (d)Jaan gaye chori by geetha (e)Jane jigar thoba idhar by asha? (f)Jane jigar hai hai by Geetha? (g)Jaraa si baat ka huzoor by Asha (h)An immensely liked song by me “Roka hai zamanene by asha. i fervently hope this is certainly OP’s. I hate to give credit to any other. (i)Toba toba kya hoga hona hai jo by aasha (j)Teree talash mein by asha, sound more like Madan mohan with some whiffs of OPN.
    4. who was the composer for mr. Natwarlal?
    5.There are a few singers who sang a few songs and disappeared like premlata, Meena kapoor,, manju, Leela, Rajkumari has a longer innings i think, Lakshmi shankar, Krishna kalle, Surinder kaur, Talat Aziz, Jagjit kaur, Amirbai karnatika, zohrabi etc. I have 2 or 3 good songs of each of these in my library
    6. The 4th Mangeshkar sister was Minu or meena?
    7. Was not Muqaddar the first film of kishore and Om prakash? What was the first hit song of Kishore? I think it was from that film. “Agadam bagadam Duniyako kaise kaise hum” or some similar words.
    8. Who sang the song ” Lare lappa lare lappa jaa” in Ek thi ladki?
    9. Was there or was there not a film “Khidki”, for which C.Ramchandra was the composer? Right from my teens, I tried to get an answr to this but could never succeed.

    Comment by curao — January 16, 2008 @ 9:46 pm | Reply

  939. #938- curao ji, i hv answers of some of ur Q’s….

    1. premlata went to pakistan.
    2. chik chocolate was assiatant to c.ramchandra who composed music for
    shrimatiji (1952/shyama, nasir khan) too, alongwith basant prakash n s.mohinder
    3. most of the songs mentioned here r hard to understand…pl gv the complete mukhda….still a few r…(g) zara si baat ka huzoor ne fasaana kar diya – musafirkhana (1955)/ (h) roka hai zamaane ne har baar milan apna – ye raat phir na ayegi (this song is the 2nd part of har tukda mere dil ka deta hai duhaaee…of the same film) / (i) tauba tauba…wo hoga hona hai jo (film -mr.natwarlal/1979) / (j) teree talaash me, pichhle kayi janam (film teri talash me/1968/MD sapan jagmohan)
    4. mr.natwarlal – MD rajesh roshan
    5.meena kapoor married anil biswaas, is in delhi…manju married karan deewan just after ratan (1944), is in mumbai only…rajkumari, ameerbai, zohra r no more now…surinder kaur (badnaam na ho jaaye/shaheed)is a renowned panjabi folk singer n was in hospital a few months back in USA due to serious ailments…talat aziz (ghazal singer) n krishna kalle r in m’bai only….
    6. 4th one is meena (meena khadilkar after marriage), is a singer/composer n composed for the film ‘asambhav’/1984…
    7. kishore’s first film as a singer was bombay talkie’s ‘ziddi'(1948) in which he acted as a ‘gardener’ too…his first solo ‘marne ki duayein kya mangoon’ n first duet with lata ‘ya kaun aya karke solah singaar’from the same film were hits…ur Q ‘KK n om prakash’s first film’ is a bit confusing…om prakash wasn’t there in muqaddar (1950)…first film they acted together was ‘ladki’ (1953)….araram tararam duniya me kaise kaise ghum – this song was from film awaaaz (1953/ MD salil choudhary)
    8. ‘lari lappa lari lappa layi rakhda’ (film ek thi ladki/1949) was sung by lata, picturised on meena shori who later went to pakistan n the MD was vinod who was a panjabi christian from lahore (actual name- eric robert)…he died at an early age (just 40 yrs)….
    9. khidki was released in 1948/dir.p.l.santoshi/MD c.ramchandra/artistes-jawahar kaul, rehana, mumtaz ali (mehmood’s father), radhakishan/producer-arvind aur anand

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 17, 2008 @ 9:30 am | Reply

  940. curaoji, i can mail u a picture of chik chocolate (with OPN) if u like…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 17, 2008 @ 9:36 am | Reply

  941. #939 #940 ..Well done Shishir ji!!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 17, 2008 @ 10:35 am | Reply

  942. #940 Hey, for me too. Thanks

    Siraj

    Khansaheb2@aol.com

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 17, 2008 @ 12:35 pm | Reply

  943. Shishirji,

    Please mail the picture to me also.

    Thank you.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry

    Comment by G N MURTY — January 17, 2008 @ 1:35 pm | Reply

  944. Shishirji, Wow!! You amaze me!
    You’re a walking Hindi film encyclopedia.
    How do you know and remember so much? Send me that picture too. Thanks.

    Comment by hemant — January 17, 2008 @ 8:04 pm | Reply

  945. Shishirji,
    Hats off to you for your encyclopaedic knowledge. You gave most of the answers. Thank you
    And, wow, a picture of OP and Chic chocolate!!! Most certainly, send me one. who will not cherish such rarity?

    Comment by curao — January 17, 2008 @ 8:31 pm | Reply

  946. friends, i’v sent a mail to murtyabcd@rediffmail.com (password-abcd123)….u will find two photographs attached with it, 1.chik chocolate & opn / 2.singer/actress manju (#938/Q.5) who acted n sang 2 solo songs (jhoothe hain sub sapne suhaane & angdai teri hai bahaana, saaf keh do hamein to jaana jaana) in rattan (1944), married rattan’s hero karan dewan n said good bye to cinema….after 60 years i traced her in mumbai only n interviwed for my column ‘kya bhooloon kya yaad karoon’ in sahara samay weekly in 2004….i think it was more convenient to post like this instead of sending the pix individually….i’m also seen with manjuji in the photograph…..

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 17, 2008 @ 10:47 pm | Reply

  947. Shishir ji,

    You amaze every one with such a vast knowledge of the Bombay movie world. We are very fortunate to have you.

    One of these days, we can have a web site devoted to and named after O.P. ji and you can include some pictures from your library on the site.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 18, 2008 @ 5:27 am | Reply

  948. i’m sorry for a mistake, shrimatiji’s (1952)MD trio were s.mohinder, basant prakash & jimmi…..chic chocolate had no connection with this film which was shyama’s first film as heroine n was produced by filmistan…sorry once again…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 18, 2008 @ 8:33 am | Reply

  949. Friends’

    Our ‘drop in the ocean’, spreading the word around and awareness of her plight seemed to have set the ball rolling for Mubarak begum ji.

    Mumbai Mirror published a full page article on her..I am so glad.

    http://www.mumbaimirror.com/net/mmpaper.aspx?page=article&sectid=30&contentid=2008011820080118025811984307ba129

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 18, 2008 @ 11:08 am | Reply

  950. according to a very senior film historian mr.d.b.samant chic chocolate (his screen name) was from goa n his sirname was ‘vaz’ (mr. samant could not recollect his first name)…in fact ‘nadaan’s music was composed by c.ramchndra himself but due to certain problems, mainly related to income tax, he gave his assistant CC’s name in credits….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 18, 2008 @ 10:40 pm | Reply

  951. Shishirji, thank you for OPN/Chic Chocolate photograph.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — January 19, 2008 @ 7:35 pm | Reply

  952. Thilakaji,
    You used a word which is apt for the music of our OPN. “rejuvenating” was the word. I often asked myself the question “why I like him so much more than other composers. It is not because, i dont like others. I like all the good compositions of others as well as any of their fans.
    The answers I came up with were: OP’s music was by and large, especially in his early films, was jolly, happy, exhilarating, electrifying , faster paced. His instruments were different and some factors I could not define. Rejuvenating is another attribute we can use.
    Around the time Aarpaar came, The highly popular films and songs were tragic, such as anarkali, Baiju bawara, Aah, shabab, Samadhi, Uran khatola, etc. Even Nagin was a tragedy before it was altered to happy ending. Nayyar was so refreshingly jolly film after film, we got addicted to his genre.

    Comment by curao — January 20, 2008 @ 11:10 am | Reply

  953. Hello All,

    Here is my list of Top 40. Being a 110% O.P. fan, I had a hard time to narrow down my choice.

    Movie Song
    1. Aaar Paar Babuji Dheere Chalna
    2 Aaar Paar Yeh Lo Mari Hari Piya
    3. Akalmand Khoob Soorat Sathi
    4. Baap Re Baap Piya Piya Piya Mora Jiya Pukare
    5. Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi Aap Ke Haseen Par Aaaj
    6. Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi Koi Kah De Zaman Se
    7. Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi Woh Hans Ke MIle
    8. Basant Chori Chori Ek Ishara Ho Gaya
    9. CID Aankhon He Aankhon Mein Ishara
    10. CID Bhooj Mera Kia Naav Re
    11. CID 909 Nadi Ka Kinara Ho
    12. Dhake Ke Malmal Diya To Jala
    13. Do Dilo Ka Dastan Milti Hai Agar Nazron Se Nazar
    14. Do Ustad Rook Rook Kahan Chali Diwani
    15. Ek Bar Mooskura Do Chere Se Zara Anchal
    16. Ek Bar Mooskura Do Roop Tera Aisa Darpan Me Na Samaye
    17. Ek Bar Mooskura Do Savere Ka Suraj
    18. Ek Musafir Ek Hasina Aap Yoonhi Agar Hamse Milte
    19. Ek Musafir Ek Hasina Bohat Shukriya Badi Meharbani
    20. Ek Musafir Ek Hasina Tumhe Mohabat Hai Hum Sae Mana
    21. Howrah Bridge Aaiye Meharba
    22. Howrah Bridge Intki tukki panka ikka
    23. Howrah Bridge Main Jaan Gaye
    21. Hum Saab Chor Hein Gudiya Teri Raaj Mae
    22. Hum Saab Chor Hein O Mr. Benjo
    23. Hum Saya Dil Ki Awaz Bhi Sun
    24. Hum Saya Kitna Hasin Hai Yeh Jahan
    25. Howrah Bridge Aaiye Meharba
    25. Howrah Bridge Intki tukki panka ikka
    26. Howrah Bridge Main Jaan Gayee
    27. Jaali Note Dil Hai Aapka Huzoor
    28. Jaali Note Raat Sard Sard Hai
    29. Kalpna Phir Bhi Dil Beqarar
    30. Kashmir Ki Kali Diwana Hua Baadal
    31. Kashmir Ki Kali Isharon Isharon Mein Dil Lanae
    32. Kashmir Ki Kali Balma Khuli Hawa
    33. Kismet Kjara Mohabat Wala
    34. Mere Sanam Hum Dum Mere Maan Bhi Jao
    35. Mere Sanam Jayee Aap Kahan Jayenge
    36. Mohabat Zindagi Hi Mehfil Mein Dilalon Ke
    37. Mr. Cartoon M.A. Mein Mein Cartoon Baar Bajar ra hi
    38. Mr. Lambu Too Zara Si Baat Pe
    39. Mitti Me Sona Poochno Na Hamen
    40. Naya Daur Maang Ke Saath Tumhara
    41. Naya Daur Saathi Haat BadhanaNaya Daur
    42. Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon Nazeen Bada Rangeen Hai
    43. Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon Banda Par Var
    44. Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Dekho Aare Dil Bar
    45. Ragini Piya Main Hoo Patang Thoo
    46. Sambandh Chal Akela Chal Akela
    47. Sawan Ki Ghata Zara Haule Haule Chalo Mora Sajna
    48. Sawan KI Ghata Zulfon Ko Hatale
    49. Tum Sa Nahin Dekha Jawani Aayi Maast
    50. Zid
    45.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 21, 2008 @ 12:56 am | Reply

  954. Hello All,

    Before I could complete my list and edit it to bring it down to 40, I must have hit the Submit box. The rest is history. My 50th choice is
    50. Zid Tujhe Pyar Karlu.

    Since I sent the list before I could edit or audit, I leave the task of choosing Top 40 to Kaveetaa and others. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 21, 2008 @ 1:03 am | Reply

  955. Hello friends

    Here is an extract from everything that has ever been posted/mentioned on Sachiniti to-date. So this not only purging from the lists but also factored in what was talked about.

    Its a first cut. Please feel free to validate/review. I thought I better do this or come January 28th, we might still be wide open.

    TOP 25

    1. Ae dil ae deewane – Baaz
    2. Kabhi Aar Kabhi Par – Aar Par
    3. Hun Abhi Mein Jawan – Aar Par
    4. Babuji Dhere Chalna – Aar Par
    5. Man Moray Ga Jhoom ke – Mangu
    6. Ankhon Hi Ankion Mein – CID
    7. Meri neendon mein Tum – Naya Andaz
    8. Mang ke saath Tumhara – Naya Daur
    9. Thandi Thandi Hawa – Johnny Walker
    10. Tum Jo Huwe Mere Hamsafar – 12 0 Clock
    11. Poocho na Hamein – Mitti Mein Sona
    12. Aap Yun Hi Agar – Ek Musafir Ek Hasina
    13. Balma Khuli Hawa Mein – Kashmir Ki Kali
    14. Jaye aap Kahan Jayenge – Mere Sanam
    15. Pukarta Chal Hun Mein – Mere Sanam
    16. Khubsoorat sathi itni baat bata – Aqalmand
    17. Zara holay Holay Chalo – Sawan Ki Ghata
    18. Hoton pe hansi Ankhon mein Nasha – Sawan Ki Ghata
    19. Hath Aya Hai Jabse tera – Dil aur Mohabbat
    20. Dil Ki Awaz Bhi Sun – Humsaya
    21. Mujhe Mera Pyar De De – Humsaya
    22. Chal Akela x3 Tera mela – Sambandh
    23. Chehre se Zara Anchal – Ek bar Muskura Do
    24. Dekho Aray Dilbar – Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye
    25. Chaen se Humko Kabhi – Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye

    This may even be in some sort of a chronological order. Folks, hopefully you can take it on from here.

    Best wishes

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 22, 2008 @ 7:24 am | Reply

  956. Sirajbhai aadab…. aap ki list me ek correction / addition. “Huzurewala” from YRPNA….
    varna aapko penalty bharni padegi…. (you know why!!!) Cheers.. Rohan

    Comment by Rohan Pusalkar — January 22, 2008 @ 8:16 pm | Reply

  957. Kaveeta, Friends and fellow lovers of Babuji (OPN)…..
    I have had the good fortune and honour of being very close to Nayyar saab whom I have always called Babuji. He took to me like a son ( I have still not figured out why…). Music is my passion and hobby.

    My friend Mr. Nandu Belvalkar and I run an organisation called “Shruti” in Pune dedicated to the revival of good old songs composed by eminent and gifted composers of yesteryears (The Golden Era of Hindi Film Music). Shruti is a non-commercial (Not-For-Profit) group. It is our mission and passion to attempt to bring to the forefront, the everlasting quality and immense depth of the music composed by giants like S.D.Burman, O.P.Nayyar, Kalyanji-Anandji, Shanker-Jaikishen, Madan Mohan, R.D.Burman, Ravi, Naushad Ali and many others.

    The majesty, life and sheer magic that these old masters weaved into their creations enthrall music lovers even today. In this day of re-mixes and synthesized tones that pass off as music, their compositions are a constant reminder to us of what great music can be. We are also the founders along with Rani Nakhwa (Nayyar saab’s legal heir and adopted daughter) of the O.P.Nayyar Foundation.

    Shruti and O.P.Nayyar are presenting a musical program in honour of Babuji’s first death anniversary. Additionally (as part of the O.P.Nayyar foundation’s goals and in accordance with Babuji’s wishes) the show will also be a fund-raiser for Shri. Manohari Singh, sax maestro and undoubtedly one of India’s finest living musicians. Manohari-da is suffering from renal failure and needs dialysis regularly. We are soliciting / inviting contributions from all music lovers and supporters. Cheques / monies may be sent in name of Shruti to:
    Shruti, 76/39 Erandawane, Vanali Apts Flat No. 8, Shantisheela Socty, Near FTII, Law College Road, Pune 411 004.

    Hopefully we will be able to present a substantial amount to Manohari-da on the day of the program. He is also being presented the 2nd “O.P.Nayyar Award” for excellence in music. The first having gone to Enoch Daniels.

    Look forward to your support and encouragement…. The program is in Pune on Feb 1st @ 8pm @ Yeshwantrao Chavan Hall, Kothrud.

    Rohan

    p.s. sirajbhai, thanks for introducing me to Sachiniti… 🙂

    Comment by Rohan Pusalkar — January 22, 2008 @ 8:30 pm | Reply

  958. All the best Rohan ji. You people are doing great job.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — January 22, 2008 @ 10:04 pm | Reply

  959. Re #955 Rohan (and others who may be curious)

    This is not my list. Rather a summary extracted from the posts/lists at Sachiniti, going back to when Kaveetaa launched the OPN Special 20,129 views ago. Huzoore-waala is qaem-o-daem not only in my own OPN/25, but also in my all-time favourites of ALL composers. But I can only speak for myself. Now on that song itself, lets see who is the first to name the lady who has accompanied Asha in that song!!!

    But wait until I release the TOP25 of the master himself, carefully compiled from the many conversations/innocent remarks/spontaneous comments over the years. Our 25 will loose all its might as many of his disclosures would come as a surprise. Until January 28th! Hope some of you make it to Pune on Feb 1st to attend the Shruti event. I wish I could!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 22, 2008 @ 10:35 pm | Reply

  960. Huzoore-wala and Aap ke Hasin Rukh are my top number 1 Nayyar favorite songs. Both are so different yet so brilliantly composed. One has more than 30 musical instruments used and the other just 3 or 4 instruments. The tunes are mind-blowing. At times I wonder how his genius mind worked to have composed such a beauty like Aap Ke hasin rukh – so simple, yet so melodious (very well picturised too). And for some reason my mind tells me that Nayyar Sahab must have also considered Huzoore wala as his crown jewel.

    The other singer in Huzoore Wala is Mino Purshotum (btw she lives in Dallas). Here’s her web site:

    http://www.minoopurshottam.com/

    Comment by hemant — January 23, 2008 @ 2:07 am | Reply

  961. Hello All,

    I was about add five more songs to my list. One is Huzoore-wala. I agree with Hemant’s opinion that Huzoore-wala and AAp Ke Hasin are very brilliantly composed. In my opinion, Jaye aap Kahan Jayenge is another song that is beyond human comparison. I simply cannot fathom how O.P. ji could have come up with this tune and the blend of instruments he used in that song. Asha excelled probably beyond her own expectations in rendering this composition.

    You can listen to these songs billions of times and the urge to replay them would not diminish even by an iota.

    Cu Rao ji, one word to describe O.P. Ji’s music is LIVELY. The beat and simple tunes that are hallmarks of O.P. music give me immense pleasure. Some of my friends wonder how can I listen to these songs day in and day out and never get tired. My answer is “There is no answer”. I tell my friends that there are some questions in life which have no answer. That is the answer.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 23, 2008 @ 4:37 am | Reply

  962. You are very right Krishna ji.
    Lively, rhythmic, and yet simple, hummable, foot-tappable. and, they come with most likable musical beginnings and interludes. That combination is perhaps relatively less in other composers. Any way you are right again in saying that we can not always say why we like a particular song, person, place etc.
    Siraj ji,
    Your list is no doubt wonderful. I can not say, any one of them does not deserve to be there. BUT, Iam disappointed that Antam phantam, yunto humne, Sarpar topi, Bahut shukriya, Kazra mohobbat wala, are not there. Of course, I cant prove that any one of these i mentioned is superior to one or the other of the songs you included.

    Comment by curao — January 23, 2008 @ 7:50 pm | Reply

  963. Hello friends

    Its so wonderful how we remember the great man in so many different ways.

    There is an established and respected website called Giitaayan.com.

    Some years ago (and Curao please weigh in here) did a survey about the most popular albums/soundtracks of OPN. The respondents were many and from a cross section of listeners. Two things to note – popularity and in totality as a film, being factored in, with all the songs rather than looking at them singularly. I think they were somewhat better organized than us and went about the exercise very methodically.

    This was their TOP TWENTY (out of 73 films) starting with the most popular

    1. Kashmir ki Kali
    2. Phir Wahi Dil Laya Hoon
    3. Tumsa Nahin Dekha
    4. Mere Sanam
    5. Ek Musafir Ek Hasina
    6. Aar Paar
    7. CID
    8. Naya Daur
    9. Mr & Mrs 55
    10.Phagun
    11.Sone ki Chidya
    12.Howrah Bridge
    13.Ye Raat Phir Na Aye Gi
    14.Baharen Phir Bhi Ayengi
    15.Raagini
    16.Sawan Ki Ghata
    17.Pran Jaye Par Vachan na Jaye
    18.Humsaya
    19.Sambandh
    20.Kismat and Kalpana (sharing the spot)

    Now this may be very different from our own individual ratings and thats where the dynamics of mass popularity and the concept of popular vote comes into play. Imagine, my favourite “Love and Murder” was not even there in the TOP 50, which just reinforces my belief that it was clearly OPN’s most under-rated film. Every song of that film is awesome! Some food for thought, friends

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 23, 2008 @ 11:29 pm | Reply

  964. Raagini songs on utube. Anniversary coming soon. See the wonderful songs of Raagini here.

    http://au.youtube.com/user/rinkster

    Comment by gajanan — January 24, 2008 @ 6:07 am | Reply

  965. First , you may get a Tamil song and below
    Maan mora bawara and Mai Bengalle Chokra … is there in the web site mentioned below

    http://au.youtube.com/user/rinkster

    Comment by gajanan — January 24, 2008 @ 6:09 am | Reply

  966. Youtube now has a few songs of Baap Re Baap. I recollect some body mentioning that after Chitlakar recorded a few songs for this movie, he was replaced by O.P. For the most part, one can listen to these songs and figure out which ones are O.P.’s creations and which ones are Chitlakar’s. On Youtube, a solo by Kishore “Daal Kaise Gale” from this movie is listed with O.P. as the MD. However, I doubt if this is correct as the tune sounds more like Chitlakar’s. Any comment?

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 24, 2008 @ 8:17 am | Reply

  967. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=GhAXWoNoOas&feature=related

    Another Raagini Kishore/Asha/OPN

    Comment by gajanan — January 24, 2008 @ 11:44 am | Reply

  968. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=i3cj_iuKERA&feature=related

    Another Raagini OPN Classic

    Comment by gajanan — January 24, 2008 @ 11:45 am | Reply

  969. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=I88ykIyE1EY&feature=related
    Kishore classic in Raagini. See the use of his voice by OPN. Yoodling by Kishore is very good

    Comment by gajanan — January 24, 2008 @ 11:47 am | Reply

  970. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=I88ykIyE1EY&feature=related
    Kishore classic in Raagini. See the use of his voice by OPN. Yoodling by Kishore is very good

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uI8SFc8nqpw&feature=related
    Another one

    Comment by gajanan — January 24, 2008 @ 11:50 am | Reply

  971. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ6EtK01zVs
    Child artistes in Raagini

    Comment by gajanan — January 24, 2008 @ 11:52 am | Reply

  972. Welcome Rohan. Its most heartening to know of your activities and the upcoming event on 28th for OP ji.I will do my utmost to spread the word. It would have been wonderful if I could have attended the event..but certain commitments make it uncertain.

    Nevertheless ‘Shruti’s initiative to bring to the foe contributions of legends is remarkable and deserves all the credit and support at our disposal. Please be rest assured that We at Sachiniti will always back such enterprise.God bless!

    Friends,

    My list has been ready for some time. I notice that my top 40 had most mentioned by Siraj ji. But there are 15 that have not found place there which are my absolute favorites.

    I guess this is the dilemma we O P fans find ourself in if we have to limit the songs which get our pulse racing, hearts fluttering with joy and in carefree abandon. The list below is one such compilation.

    In no particular order..definitely not in order of favorites. It is well nigh impossible to select that way. All of O P jis songs trigger a response emotionally.

    1) Woh Huns ke Mile humse

    2) Hai Duniya usi ki zamana usi ka

    3) Deewana hua badal

    4) Ishaaron ishaaron mein

    5) Meri jaan tumpe sadke

    6) Aanchal mein saja lena kaliyan

    7) Chhota sa balma

    8 Phir miloge kabhi

    9) Yehi woh jagah hai

    10) Tukde hai mere dil ke

    11) Aanknon se jo uthri hai dil mein

    12) Aapke haseen rukh pe aaj naya noor hai

    13) Huzoor-e-wala

    14) Mujhe dekhkar aapka muskurana

    15) Bahut shukriya badi meherbaani

    for me these are songs which can turn my mood around, helping me drift away into an ethereal land.

    Further 10, which are included in siraj Jis list

    16) Meri neendon mein tum

    17)Maang ke saath tumhara

    18) Tum jo huye mere humsafae

    19) Poocho na hamein hum unke liye

    20) Aap yun hi agar

    21) Balma Khuli hawa mein

    22) Honthon pe hunsi aankhon mein nasha

    23) Haath aaya hai jabse

    24) Mujhe mera pyar de de

    25) Chaien se humko kabhi

    Curao ji you had promised to make a final list. Please advise if there is more we need to do or how do we proceed. The plan was to get the final 25 in MP3 format onto a podcast as our commemoration, which can then be downloaded individually by all O P fans .

    regards
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 24, 2008 @ 2:01 pm | Reply

  973. Kaveetaa ji,

    In your list, item number 12. Yeh rangeen mehfil gulabi gulabi may not be O.P. Nayyar’s. If I recollect well, this is a solo by Asha that was composed by O.P.’s assistant, Kohli. The tune and the use of the instruments bear a strong similarity to O.P.’s style.

    Even if Kohli is the MD of this song, we can include it in our list as a tribute to O.P. and his team.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 24, 2008 @ 6:12 pm | Reply

  974. Thanks for the information krishna ji. You are right. I checked. I have replaced that song with ‘Aap ke haseen rukh”..I dont know how I missed out that one. But anyways its in the list now. I am happy.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 24, 2008 @ 6:48 pm | Reply

  975. #971
    The chilid artist song is beautiful. Is it sung by both Geeta and Asha?

    Comment by hemant — January 25, 2008 @ 12:18 am | Reply

  976. Hemant, sure the song is very good. The boy is Vinod Mehra ( late ???) . Geeta Dutt sings for the boy and the girl’s voice is by Asha Bhonsle.

    Comment by gajanan — January 25, 2008 @ 9:53 am | Reply

  977. Hemant, sure the song is very good. The boy is Vinod Mehra ( late ???) according to the utube site ( see right) . Geeta Dutt sings for the boy and the girl’s voice is by Asha Bhonsle.

    Comment by gajanan — January 25, 2008 @ 9:54 am | Reply

  978. I didn’t know Geeta and Asha has a song together with Nayyar, Gajanan. Thanks.
    Was this thier only one together with the Great Master?

    Comment by hemant — January 25, 2008 @ 10:13 am | Reply

  979. OP NAYYAR – Remembering the legendary grand master
    by Siraj Khan

    It was January 28 last year, when Bollywood lost one of its great personalities, who was both colorful and controversial, leaving behind only his timeless music for us to cherish. I remember him today by sharing with you, a musical journey of his life. He used to call this journey as A-Z (from Aasman in 1952 to Zid in 1994).

    Preetam Aan Milo was the song that launched OPN as a composer at the age of 17 in 1943 but OP Nayyar made his full-blown film debut with Aasman in 1952. Recently married Geeta Dutt recommended OP to her husband Guru Dutt and the Indian film industry was rocked by a new sound, sensational orchestration, a rare robust beat never heard before. First with Baaz and then Aar-Paar, released in 1954, was a runaway musical hit and OP took India by storm. Something new and refreshing was heard and OP became a household name instantly. Majrooh Sultanpuri’s magic of the mushairaas discovered a unique outlet. Aar Paar had 8 songs sung by Geeta , Rafi and Shamshad Begum. I sometimes wonder what would have been the impact on the listeners, when they first heard the unorthodox sound of of Kabhi Aar Kabhi Paar, Hoon Abhee Mein Jawan Ae Dil, Babujee Dheere Chalna, Ye Lo Mein Hari Piya and others in those times of gentle easy-going songs, composed by other top composers then.

    OP churned out another zingy musical score in Mr & Mrs 55 and even songs filmed on comedian Johnny Walker hit the charts. The other music directors sat up and were amazed at the variety of rhythm patterns, the freshness, and a very earthy, full-blooded appeal in the songs. None of these were in Asha’s voice yet, but by now she had started to sing a few songs for OP in other films, although still not for the leading ladies of the screen. OP knew nothing of classical music or raags and considered his abilities and talent as God-given.

    1956 and Guru Dutt, Geeta Dutt and OP scored a hatrick at the box-office with CID, with Dev Anand and Waheeda Rahman in the romantic lead. From the bus driver to the mill-owner, everybody were humming OP’s songs. OP had proven that he was no flash in the pan. Never before had anybody heard such a combination of melody and sensuous singing as Geeta Dutt’s. Janisar Akhtar’s Ankhon Hee Ankhon Mein Ishara is an all-time hit among people of all ages even today, 50+ years after it was composed. Majrooh penned the lyrics to the other racy tracks, the vibrant orchestra set a new distinct style and tempo. Strange as it may sound now, but the state-controlled AIR, actually placed a ban on many of his popular songs from being broadcasted for several months, as they considered the lyrics as well as his melodies too daring and a bad influence on the young generation. However, OP continued unfazed with the Government order, with Radio Ceylon going berserk with requests for his songs. It had to take nothing less than a minister to lift the ban. (Somebody said that the minister liked Kaheen pe Nigahen!) On the other hand, producers were forming a bee-line to sign him up and 8/9 films per year were to become a norm. He was the first music director to demand Rs 100,000, a substantial figure in those days, which other composers could not even conceive of.

    Another first. A producer signs up a music director even before the main actors, in anticipation of a guaranteed success. A Naya Andaaz of sorts and a movie of the same name came along with 11 songs. Janisar Akhtar (Javed Akhtar’s father and Shabana Azmi’s father-in-law) weaved his magical lyrics yet again, forging a great partnership with OP Nayyar which was broken only by the death of the great poet much later in 1976. OP Nayyar was crowned the Rhythm King and he was still only 30 then. OP had recognized the talent of Kishore long before he became a popular singer and in Naya Andaz, he combined this voice with Shamshad Begum, singing perhaps for the only time together, to come up with a memorable romantic duet Meri Neendon mein Tum, picturized on tragedy queen Meena Kumari and Kishore Kumar himself.

    1957 – from Naya Andaaz to Naya Daur. The film Naya Daur rocked India then. (50 years later the color version was released in 2007 after OP’s death, grabbed the attention yet again). Thanks to OP’s nurturing, Asha Bhosle, who until now was living under the shadow of her sister Lata, came into her own. The hit parade continued and 6/7 out of the top 10 chart-toppers on the Binaca Geetmala featuring OP melodies had become standard fair. Naya Daur was a golden jubilee and bagged many awards (including music) and at the Filmfare Awards ceremony, there were more people around the dashing OP Nayyar than the leading stars – no less than Dilip Kumar and Vijayantimala. Sahir Ludhianvi wrote the lyrics but their relationship was not to last for long. However, the OP-Asha partnership turned into romance, an association which lasted for 15 years and has become part of Bollywood folklore. Rafi also held a very special place in OP’s heart and was always the first choice male voice. Naya Daur had Ude jab kab zulfen, Reshmi Shalwar, yeh desh hai veer jawano ka, saathi hath barhana and Maang ke saath tumhara which gave OP a virtual ownership of the taanga beat, which became the mainstay of so many of his songs in the years later.

    Still in 1957, and a new Elvis-styled actor flashed on the screen wearing t-shirts and leather jackets never seen before on the Indian cinema and added a new dimension to OP’s breezy swinging breed of music, with his own free-wheeling acting. No doubt, OP made a star out of Shammi Kapoor. Mujrim came right at the heels of the romantic comedy Tumsa Naheen Dekha. Madhubala announced that she would give a discount on her fee to any producer who signed up OP for the musical score, if not for his good looks! OP Nayyar had become the most sought-after composer in Bombay and, not surprisingly, the most expensive one too. Recording studios were booked up for months. OP now moved around in a chauffeur-driven Cadillac, while prominent producers and actors were still running around in Fiats. OPN was usually signed up first while the hero/heroine come in later and his name appeared on the billboards of films over and above the cast. This had never happened before and has never happened after OP.

    Many of us remember the 50s, OP and the B/W era, with a night club cabaret scene with haunting and sensuous Geeta Dutt numbers. The string of movies continued in 1958, but a change in the landscape was seen. Geeta Dutt and Shamshad Begum, who until now lent their voices heartily to OP, were being replaced by Asha Bhosle. OP also tapped the brilliant poet Qamar Jalalabadi, –unnoticed until then – who remained with OP right to the end of his composing life – including his last film Zid, released in 1994. Madhubala’s Howrah Bridge had 8 songs, of which Geeta got a chance to sing just one. But just Mera Nam Chin Chin Choo, was enough for her to turn the tables on the others, most of which were on the charts as well. However, by now, Geeta was an alcoholic, following her troubled marriage, and was not easily available. Her last song for OP was a lovely duet with Rafi – Tum jo huay mere hamsafar from 12 “o” Clock released late 1958.

    Several B/W films of OP flashed around in 1959 and 1960 but many are remembered today only because of their songs – which just about says it all for the composer. 1961 was the only year when there was not a single OP Nayyar release. He had remarked once “Muhabbat mein sara jahan lut gaya tha”. Who had the time to compose anything! The fact, however, was that the producers were finding him too expensive. Early 60s also meant the era of long-named films. Examples.. Dil apna aur preet parayee, Jab pyar kisi se hota hai, Ek Phool Char kaante, Tere Ghar ke Saamne etc. OP Nayyar came back with a bang in 1962 with Ek Musafir Ek Hasina with a bagful of romantic classics – a film which he always remembered very fondly. Of the 10 songs on the sound track, my favorite has always been Aap yunhi agar humse milte rahe, which makes you fall in love all over again. The long names continued in the swinging 60s – Phir Wahi Dil Laya Hoon in 1963 came in color. Another film loaded with 9 peppy numbers all of which had hit the charts much before the release of the film.

    1964 and with it came the story behind the golden jubilee hit Kashmir ki Kali. A new sensational girl none other than Sharmila Tagore was pitched with Shammi Kapoor in her debut film, that was shot in Kashmir in color. OP was initially not happy with the song picturizations and spoke to Sharmila in private before the real turnaround came. Later, much later OP disclosed that he had told the young lady that his was music in motion, like a mountain stream. She could not just stand and just move her lips to his songs. There had to be movement – whether it be a car, tanga, boat, and when she was on her feet, she should keep moving and let the camera follow her. So she did just that, not only in songs but even when doing dialogs. Many years later, when her son Saif Ali Khan (then in college) got rather upset one day and said “Mom, can you ever talk to me without moving around and doing things at the same time?” Before she could reply, his dad the Nawab of Pataudi quipped’ Beta, the person you have to speak to on this subject is OP Nayyar”. Indeed, in Choo Mantar OP has the hero recovering from a car accident, singing from a wheel-chair being pushed by his lady. Asha’s Balma Khuli Hawa mein is a classic. The sitar and the sarangi, the sudden change of surs and taals are truly awesome. And to complete the story, in the end they decided that Sharmila could not really do justice acting to this lilting but difficult to sing composition and it was eventually dropped from the film altogether. Sharmila probably could not do the “behekna idhar udhar” then.

    In 1965 Mere Sanam ruled the charts, again packed with 9 songs. Some sensational gems immortalized by Asha and Rafi. Feather-light Jayye Aap Kahan Jayenge was voted by All India Music Composers Association as one of the most complete songs ever recorded for Indian films, along with SDB’s Kanton se kheench ke from Guide. This is where the lyrics, music, the orchestration, voice modulation and recording all blended in at their best. There are some notes which he used which nobody else would dare consider. OP and Asha worked on Yeh hein reshmi zulfon ka andhera na ghabrayye for four months before it was finally ready for recording.

    1966 and a string of musical marvels unfolded. Guru Dutt had signed up OP again for what turned out to be his last production venture. In fact, Guru Dutt died before the release of Baharen Phir Bhee Ayengee. This film has some incredibly lilting songs. Then came Yeh Raat Phir Na Ayegi. For those who associate OP with only fast-paced swinging numbers, Yahee Who Jagah Hai is the song to pause to fathom the depth of Asha’s voice. Many consider this song as one of her all time best. It was beautifully picturized on Sharmila Tagore. I also recall another favorite from this film Phir Miloge Kabhi is Baat ka wada Karlo. There are some lines in this song which OP wrote himself

    Dil ki har baat adhoori hai, adhoori hai abhi, apni ek aur mulaqaat zaroori hai abhi
    Chand lamhon ke liye saath ka wada karlo, hum se ek aur mulaqaat ka wada karlo

    The film also had Huzoore wala, Mein shayad tumhare liye ajnabi hoon, Aapse meine meri jaan and others.

    Dil Ki Awaaz Bhi Sun from Humsaya was one of OP’s own personal Rafi favorites, released early 1968. Rafi and OP had developed a great mutual respect and admiration for each other over the years. The story goes that all the songs had been recorded and only the last duet was to be recorded with Asha. Rafi had been very busy and finally gave a date/time for the recording. There were about 70 people/musicians in the recording studios with Asha waiting for Rafi. OP was very always very punctual but on that day waited patiently for the last song to be recorded. An apologetic Rafi finally arrived two hours late. OP asked everybody to great ready for recording and calmly asked Rafi whether everything was OK with him. Rafi revealed that he was held up at a S-J recording. That just blew OP’s fuse and he asked everyone to pack up and leave that day. The next day that duet was recorded in the voice of Mahendra Kapoor. OP never forgave himself for doing this. Fortunately, my favorite song by then had already been recorded -Mujhe mera pyar dede tujhe aazma liya hai.

    Now to one of Lata’s favorite songs. In Ao Huzoor Tumko, Asha-OP were in their elemental best. The year was 1968 and the film was Kismat. OP gave a break to an unknown poet Noor Dewasi to pen the lyrics. After Rafi’s fall out with OP on the recording of the Humsaya duet, Mahendra Kapoor capitalized on the situation as OP had no other option for a male voice for several years, until OP’s patch up with Rafi later and he came up with some real hearty songs for the master, Kismat, Sambandh and Kahin Din Kahin Raat being most significant. The taali, another familiar OP beat eg SubhanAllah, Huzoore-wala came in Kismat with Kajra Mohabbatwala. OPN reverted back to a retired Shamshad Begum after many years, to join Asha to create the old Kabhi Aar Kabhi Paar and Reshmi Shalwar effect.

    OP never really liked Mukesh’s voice. So, much to Mukesh’s surprise and the industry’s in 1969, OP asked him to sing Chal Akela for Sambandh. OP knew Mukesh’s limitations and used the chorus effect (lead by Asha) very cleverly in places where Mukesh’s voice would not go high enough for the pitch OP wanted. This unusual OP classic became a chart-topping national hit, but OP confessed that he never liked the end product himself. Mukesh sang a few more songs after Sambandh including Chehre se Zara Anchal in Ek Baar Muskura Do with Asha, released in 1972.

    Chein se hamko kabhi became an OP classic even before it was released. This was to become the Asha-OP swan song. Geeta Dutt had died in July 1972 and his relationship with Asha was on the rocks. They eventually split in August 1972 never to stand under the same roof again. But before they did, this gem of a song from Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye had been recorded and picturized on Rekha. Asha and Lata, however, used their clout behind-the scene to have it dropped from the film altogether. Ironically, the song bagged the 1973 Filmfare award for the best singer for Asha. Asha decided not to attend the awards ceremony. OP on her behalf, accepted the award graciously but on the way home with lyricist SH Bihari tossed it out from his car and heard it break. This was the tipping point which was to haunt OP for the rest of his life. Although he composed for many years more (almost 150 songs until Zid in 1994) and tried many other female singers, but the magic of the past was just not there. OP the man may have died on January 28, 2007 but OP the composer clearly had died much earlier.

    OP Nayyar’s contribution to Bollywood’s film music is unparalleled. There were and are good composers all with their own melodies and styles, but there were only a few trail-blazers, who would be considered as undisputed greats. OP was one of them, a genius whose compositions you would recognize within the first 10 seconds of his song. This was because each song carried his stamp and his signature, which nobody could replicate. He was also sure that he could make it to the top without recording a single song in Lata’s voice – the only composer to do so. Somebody once asked him how he ranked himself amongst the company of such great contemporaries, to which he said “I think I am the second best in the industry. The rest can fight for the first place”. An interesting perspective from a genius who did not follow any rules, rather made his own. OP knew his instruments and the capabilities of each singer and musician who worked with him, just as we know our fingers. That there were songs which he had made in minutes, has been well documented.

    Even now when you think of the maestro, you see him in his white clothes, white shoes, his black hat and blazer, walking erect with his beaming smile, even in his old age. His steely character and unmistaken gleam on his face, had stood by him to help him tackle the roller-coaster of fate, that took him from the posh house in Churchgate to the streets and then to the warmth of the Nakhwa family in Thane, which became his last home. He lives with us through his melodies and will continue to do so forever. Lyricist S H Bihari, who penned the lyrics for the highest number of OP films, captured these sentiments and left us much before OP Nayyar did.

    Teri zindagi mohabbat, tera naam hai deewana, Tere baad bhi karega tera zikr yeh zamana

    Tu wo zindagi naheen hai, jise maut khatm karde, Jise bhool jai dunya tu nahi hai wo tarana

    Siraj Khan, Boston, USA

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 25, 2008 @ 11:13 am | Reply

  980. Siraj bhai… good morning. just read your post. excellent work.
    with everyone’s blessings, we will do our best on the feb1st show. we hope to raise at least 50,000 if not 1 lac for Manohari-da. The famous actor of yesteryears, Vishwajeet, will be the chief guest. He will present the 2nd O.P.Nayyar award for excellence in music to Manohari-da. We have video clippings (rare and special) that will be presented incl ones on Nayyarsaab’s original house in Lahore, interviews with the current inhabitants, his interactions with us over the years etc.

    This event will be covered by video and Sirajbahi, I will send you a copy.
    Cheers… Rohan

    p.s. friends you are all welcome to attend. please spread the word. if you can contribute, your contributions will be recognized and we would have done a little bit from our side as music lovers for a great man (Manohari-da) who gave us so much for so long with his music.

    Comment by Rohan Pusalkar — January 26, 2008 @ 9:28 am | Reply

  981. hello curao ji,
    after almost a week i got to see the reponse of my post…i am indeed so glad and mesmerised to be in this world of fantasy…yet to read all the comments and be a loyal part of this forum.my regards to all…..

    Comment by thilaka — January 26, 2008 @ 10:28 am | Reply

  982. c u rao ji,
    sir…i guess i got ur name wrong in the above comment…apologise for the same….please let me know if i have spelled it right this time..also you have mistook me for a boy i guess.just went thru the above mail…you have mentioned that i m a good son…never the less,blessings are more important.i am the darling of my appa and the eldest of the two daughters.my name is thilaka paramesh.

    Comment by thilaka — January 26, 2008 @ 10:52 am | Reply

  983. hello,
    i am not sure who has responded to my above question…thanx a ton.

    Comment by thilaka — January 26, 2008 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  984. Siraj- felicitations and compliments on a truly wonderful piece on OP Nayyar. It is easy to recognise that it has come from your heart and for those of us for whom OP was king, it tugs and pulls at our heart-strings.
    Kaveetaa ji- I am still happy to provide the chosen songs, available with me, to a ‘common pool’, but will need to be guided on the mechanics of how it is to be done.
    CU Rao ji – I have not forgotten my offer to send you the 2 songs that you had sought. Kindly email me your advice on how I should do this.

    Last but not the least, a piece of trivia to add the the facts conveyed by Siraj. OP gave music to a Shammi Kapoor- Nutan starrer called Basant. It had , I think 14 songs of which 12 were Rafi Asha duets. This must be a record of sorts.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 26, 2008 @ 2:59 pm | Reply

  985. Tremendous Siraj Ji..Loved it.

    Purinder ji..thanx a ton..will guide you.But we have to arrive at a consensus for the top 25. Will you do the honors? Or Cu rao ji..or Siraj ji.. We only have tomorrow. So please friends..somebody take the initiative of compiling the Final list.

    Thanks.

    Regards
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 26, 2008 @ 7:42 pm | Reply

  986. Purinder – that waving of the Basant flag was very appropriate. Thats not just a trivia. Indeed, even if measured by the yardstick of those times of films which were heavily loaded with songs, Basant with 14 songs remained at least an OPN record. Perhaps somebody can weigh in on a film by other composers which had more. I have not seen the film myself but I remember reading somewhere that there were as many songs picturized on Johnny walker, as they were on Shammi Kapoor. Basant was released in 1960 and Qamar Jalalabadi never forgave OP for making him write some outlandish lyrics like O Madam Nancy You are my Fancy, Mere Dil Pe Laga De Daarling apne naaam ki chit. Duniya Pakkee Four Twenty etc. Not that they were not popular. In adddition, Choree choree ik ishara ho gaya and others were very melodious too. Many are on Youtube now

    Cheers

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 27, 2008 @ 12:16 am | Reply

  987. My dear Kaveetaa

    I do sense an urgency in your post. I was somehow anticipating something like this, as we had lost time early due to our inability to arrive at a consensus on a methodology on compilation. In #955 I did make an attempt to summarize a first cut/draft of the final list from entries upto that point. Yours and a few other which came in later could change my draft summary, but it should not be a major problem. Maybe Curao or Purinder can bring it to closure. Remember we have to get the T25 on the MP3 format for release!

    But I will be ready with OPN’s own TOP25 – for release on Jan 28th.

    A radio host for the program GUNJAN in Boston FM 91.5 WUML has invited me for a 1 hour special program on Feb 2 on OP NAYYAR. If there is a general consensus, I could present our Sachiniti final T25 in that program.

    Please let me have your thoughts.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 27, 2008 @ 12:44 am | Reply

  988. From the archives – excerpts from a music review in Filmfare of December 1967.

    “The INIMITABLE OP NAYYAR. Thats how The Gramaphone Company of India Ltd, which brought out the Long Playing record of OP’s 12 most popular songs early this, described him on the cover. The title gives OP a distinction the like of which, perhaps, no other composer was given, but it also aptly describes the rebel composer, who has consistently dared to defy conventionalism in film music.

    Right from the success of his music in “Aar Paar” with which the new OP trend in film music began, down to his latest compositions in “Nasihat”, OP as composer has seldom known a failure.

    Even his critics have to admit that OP Nayyar is among the outstanding contributors to the growth of our film music. He gave it a new direction, a new pattern, a new vigour and a new rhythm. It is OP who has brought the vibrant swing of modernity and much needed sparkle and variety to film songs.”

    That was OP 40 years ago in his prime. He has left us but what was written then is as relevant today as it was back back then.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 27, 2008 @ 8:24 am | Reply

  989. Thilakaji,
    Your posts #981 and 982. It just doesnt matter how you address me: curao or c u rao. both are ok. But there is something in your posts which I could not understand. I addressed to you one post only,# 952. i read it again. Nowhere in my post i referred to you as a boy or son. You perhaps attributed someone else’s post to me. LOL. Ok. doesnt matter and not serious anyway.

    Comment by curao — January 27, 2008 @ 8:41 am | Reply

  990. Dear Siraj ji,
    If we can have the compilation of Top 25 by tomorrow it is good enough. Mp3 format and podcast can only be the next step. Please go ahead and do the honors for the final list. We would be delighted for you to present on the radio program Sachiniti Top 25.Please go ahead.

    CU Raoji,

    Thilaka perhaps mistook my comment for yours. Hota hai hota hai.. aise bade bade ‘blogs’ yeh chhoti chhoti bataein hoti rehti hain ( DDLJ) 🙂

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 27, 2008 @ 9:22 am | Reply

  991. CU Rao ji and I just talked a short while ago aiming to derive an OP TOP 20 . He has,based on the various lists posted on Sachiniti, kindly agreed to come up with a draft, final TOP 20 list. Mr Rao will quickly circulate it among the OP [Sachiniti]fans with whom he is touch for a speedy feedback so that he can try to factor in their feedback before announcing the final list.

    It would be meaningful if the recipents of Rao ji’s email respond quickly.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 27, 2008 @ 10:16 am | Reply

  992. While typing out the previous post was interrupted by a phone call – from Mubarak Begum Sahiba. This telephone call from her was in response to a communication from me after learning about her from Siraj. She is full of gratitude for the snow-balling effect of recognition that she has experienced following Siraj’s intervention. She made my day as she gracefully agreed to sing “Kabhi tanhiyon mein tumhari yaad ayegi’ for me. She sang quite beautifully and her voice had the clarity which belied her age.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 27, 2008 @ 10:28 am | Reply

  993. @991 ..Thats good Purinder ji.Looking forward to Rao jis mail.And yes all of us who receive it should expedite our responses.

    @992..I am so glad about Mubarak begum ji..Siraj jis is forever going to be in her prayers I presume.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 27, 2008 @ 10:49 am | Reply

  994. Siraj ji and Kaveetaji,
    I am making an effort here to arrive our common best 25. What I am going to do is: I relist here all the individual lists, even if it occupies lots of space.TheN, I will be picking up songs chosen by most. since, the original lists were not in any order, the mere presence in a list will be taken as a vote for that song.
    1. Kavee’s list in #982
    1) Woh Huns ke Mile humse

    2) Hai Duniya usi ki zamana usi ka

    3) Deewana hua badal

    4) Ishaaron ishaaron mein

    5) Meri jaan tumpe sadke

    6) Aanchal mein saja lena kaliyan

    7) Chhota sa balma

    8 Phir miloge kabhi

    9) Yehi woh jagah hai

    10) Tukde hai mere dil ke

    11) Aanknon se jo uthri hai dil mein

    12) Aapke haseen rukh pe aaj naya noor hai

    13) Huzoor-e-wala

    14) Mujhe dekhkar aapka muskurana

    15) Bahut shukriya badi meherbaani

    for me these are songs which can turn my mood around, helping me drift away into an ethereal land.

    Further 10, which are included in siraj Jis list

    16) Meri neendon mein tum

    17)Maang ke saath tumhara

    18) Tum jo huye mere humsafae

    19) Poocho na hamein hum unke liye

    20) Aap yun hi agar

    21) Balma Khuli hawa mein

    22) Honthon pe hunsi aankhon mein nasha

    23) Haath aaya hai jabse

    24) Mujhe mera pyar de de

    25) Chaien se humko kabhi
    Siraj’s list in #955:
    1. Ae dil ae deewane – Baaz
    2. Kabhi Aar Kabhi Par – Aar Par
    3. Hun Abhi Mein Jawan – Aar Par
    4. Babuji Dhere Chalna – Aar Par
    5. Man Moray Ga Jhoom ke – Mangu
    6. Ankhon Hi Ankion Mein – CID
    7. Meri neendon mein Tum – Naya Andaz
    8. Mang ke saath Tumhara – Naya Daur
    9. Thandi Thandi Hawa – Johnny Walker
    10. Tum Jo Huwe Mere Hamsafar – 12 0 Clock
    11. Poocho na Hamein – Mitti Mein Sona
    12. Aap Yun Hi Agar – Ek Musafir Ek Hasina
    13. Balma Khuli Hawa Mein – Kashmir Ki Kali
    14. Jaye aap Kahan Jayenge – Mere Sanam
    15. Pukarta Chal Hun Mein – Mere Sanam
    16. Khubsoorat sathi itni baat bata – Aqalmand
    17. Zara holay Holay Chalo – Sawan Ki Ghata
    18. Hoton pe hansi Ankhon mein Nasha – Sawan Ki Ghata
    19. Hath Aya Hai Jabse tera – Dil aur Mohabbat
    20. Dil Ki Awaz Bhi Sun – Humsaya
    21. Mujhe Mera Pyar De De – Humsaya
    22. Chal Akela x3 Tera mela – Sambandh
    23. Chehre se Zara Anchal – Ek bar Muskura Do
    24. Dekho Aray Dilbar – Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye
    25. Chaen se Humko Kabhi – Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye
    Krishnaji’s list in #953:
    1. Aaar Paar Babuji Dheere Chalna
    2 Aaar Paar Yeh Lo Mari Hari Piya
    3. Akalmand Khoob Soorat Sathi
    4. Baap Re Baap Piya Piya Piya Mora Jiya Pukare
    5. Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi Aap Ke Haseen Par Aaaj
    6. Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi Koi Kah De Zaman Se
    7. Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi Woh Hans Ke MIle
    8. Basant Chori Chori Ek Ishara Ho Gaya
    9. CID Aankhon He Aankhon Mein Ishara
    10. CID Bhooj Mera Kia Naav Re
    11. CID 909 Nadi Ka Kinara Ho
    12. Dhake Ke Malmal Diya To Jala
    13. Do Dilo Ka Dastan Milti Hai Agar Nazron Se Nazar
    14. Do Ustad Rook Rook Kahan Chali Diwani
    15. Ek Bar Mooskura Do Chere Se Zara Anchal
    16. Ek Bar Mooskura Do Roop Tera Aisa Darpan Me Na Samaye
    17. Ek Bar Mooskura Do Savere Ka Suraj
    18. Ek Musafir Ek Hasina Aap Yoonhi Agar Hamse Milte
    19. Ek Musafir Ek Hasina Bohat Shukriya Badi Meharbani
    20. Ek Musafir Ek Hasina Tumhe Mohabat Hai Hum Sae Mana
    21. Howrah Bridge Aaiye Meharba
    22. Howrah Bridge Intki tukki panka ikka
    23. Howrah Bridge Main Jaan Gaye
    21. Hum Saab Chor Hein Gudiya Teri Raaj Mae
    22. Hum Saab Chor Hein O Mr. Benjo
    23. Hum Saya Dil Ki Awaz Bhi Sun
    24. Hum Saya Kitna Hasin Hai Yeh Jahan
    25. Howrah Bridge Aaiye Meharba
    25. Howrah Bridge Intki tukki panka ikka
    26. Howrah Bridge Main Jaan Gayee
    27. Jaali Note Dil Hai Aapka Huzoor
    28. Jaali Note Raat Sard Sard Hai
    29. Kalpna Phir Bhi Dil Beqarar
    30. Kashmir Ki Kali Diwana Hua Baadal
    31. Kashmir Ki Kali Isharon Isharon Mein Dil Lanae
    32. Kashmir Ki Kali Balma Khuli Hawa
    33. Kismet Kjara Mohabat Wala
    34. Mere Sanam Hum Dum Mere Maan Bhi Jao
    35. Mere Sanam Jayee Aap Kahan Jayenge
    36. Mohabat Zindagi Hi Mehfil Mein Dilalon Ke
    37. Mr. Cartoon M.A. Mein Mein Cartoon Baar Bajar ra hi
    38. Mr. Lambu Too Zara Si Baat Pe
    39. Mitti Me Sona Poochno Na Hamen
    40. Naya Daur Maang Ke Saath Tumhara
    41. Naya Daur Saathi Haat BadhanaNaya Daur
    42. Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon Nazeen Bada Rangeen Hai
    43. Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon Banda Par Var
    44. Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Dekho Aare Dil Bar
    45. Ragini Piya Main Hoo Patang Thoo
    46. Sambandh Chal Akela Chal Akela
    47. Sawan Ki Ghata Zara Haule Haule Chalo Mora Sajna
    48. Sawan KI Ghata Zulfon Ko Hatale
    49. Tum Sa Nahin Dekha Jawani Aayi Maast
    50. Tujhe pyar karlu
    Murtyji’s list in #923
    1.Chain se hum ko kabhi…(Pran Jaye per vach..)
    2.Yeh Desh hai veer…(Naya Daur)
    3.Jamane ki ankho se..(Ek baar musku ra do)
    4.Anchal mein saja lena.. (Phir wohi dil..)
    5.Jayeeye aap kahan jayenge..(Mere Sanam)
    6.Kabhi aar kabhi paar..(Aar Paar)
    7.Leke pehla pehla pyar..(CID)
    8.Dil ki awaj bhi sun..(Hum saya)
    9.Yun to hamne laakh..(Tum sa nehin dekha)
    10.Tum jo hue mere hamsafar..(Mr & Mrs 55)
    11. Preetam aan milo (Mr & Mrs 55 version)
    12. Diya to jala sari raat re..(Dake ki malmal)
    13. Aayeye Meherban..(Howra Bridge)
    14. Mang ke saath tumhara..(Naya Daur)
    15. Deewana Hua baadal…(Kashmir ki kali)
    16. Roop tera aisa..(Ek baar musku rado)
    17. Mera Pyar wo hai ke..(Yeh raat phir…)
    18. Pukarta Chala hun main…(Mere Sanam)
    19. Ninu chudaka nenundalenu..(Neerajanam-Telugu
    20. Kahin pe nigahen..(CID)
    Hemantji’s list in 915:
    1. Aap Ke Hasin Rukh – Bahare Phir Bhi Aiyagi
    2. Aachal May Saja Le – Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon
    3. Aankhon Se Jo Utri Hai Dil May – Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon
    4. Huzore Wala Jo Ho Ijazat – Yeh Raat Phir Ne Aiyagi
    5. Mera Pyar Who Hai – Yeh Raat Phir Ne Aiyagi
    6. Jaaiye Aap Kahan Jaye Gi – Mere Sanam
    7. Yeh Hai Rashmi – Mere Sanam
    8. Aaieye Meharban – Howrah Bridge
    9. Aao Huzor Tum Ko – Kismat
    10. Bikanar Ki Chunri – Pran Jaye Per Vachhan Na Jaye
    11. Dekho Aare Dilbar – Pran Jaye Per Vachhan Na Jaye
    12. Aaja Mere Pyar Ke Sahare – Hum Saya
    13. Badi Mushkil Se Kabu May – Hum Saya
    14. Hoton Pe Hasi Aankhon May Nasha – Sawan Ki Ghata
    15. Khuda Huzor Ko Mere – Sawan Ki Ghata
    16. Hoon Abhi Main Jawan – Aar Par
    17. Balma Khuli Hawa – Kashmir Ki Kali
    18. Jata Kahan Hai Diwane – CID
    19. Jinhay Ho Pyar Sanam – Taxi Driver
    20. Pyar Karte Ho Yaar – Taxi Driver
    21. Jane Tammana Kya Kar Dala – CID 909
    22. Jo Diya Tha Tum Ne Mujko – Sambandh
    23. Zamane Ki Aankhon Ne – Ek Baar Muskura Do
    24. Mujhe Dekh Kar Aap ka Muskurana – Ek Musafir Ek Hasina
    25. Manasukha Madhu Kalasham – Neerajanam
    26. Tumhara Chahnewala – Kahin Din Kahin Raat
    27. Fashion Se Jena Fashion Se Marna – Shirimanji
    28. Poocho Na Hamein Ham Unke Liye – Mitti Mein Sona
    29. Tere Aakhon Ne In Akhonse – Nasihat
    30. Chhun Chhun Ghunghro – Phagun
    31. Tum Sabse Hasin Ho – Mohabbat Zindagi Hai
    32. Booj Mera Kya Naam Hai – CID
    33. Aaye Hai Door Se – Tumsa Nahin Dekha
    34. Kajra Mohabat Wala – Kismat
    35. Diwana Hua Badal – Kashmir Ki Kali
    36. Mai Tujko Maut De Do – Hera Moti
    37. Khune Jigar Se– Zid
    38. Tera Nikhra Nikhra Chehra – CID 909
    39. Prema Velasindh – Neerajanam
    40. Hamne Jab Dil Tha Diya Koi Wada Kiya – Choomantar
    My list in #913?
    1. Ai dil e deewane-Geetha-Baaz
    2. Mujhe dekho hasrat-Talat-Baaz
    3. Babuji dhire chalna-Geetha-Aarpaar
    4. Hun abhi mai jawan-Geetha-Aarpaar
    5.Yeh lo mai hari priya-Geetha-Aarpaar
    6.Man more gaa-Asha-Mangu
    7. dol mere man pyarse-Asha-Mangu
    8. Antam phantam-Asha-Hum sub chor hain
    9. Gudya teri raaj me-Asha-Hum sub chor
    10. tumjo hue mere hum-Rafi_Geetha-12′o Clock
    11.Gareeb jaanke-Rafi_Geetha-Choomantar
    12.Khoob soorat sathi-Kishore_Asha-Akalmand
    13.Udhar tum haseen-Rafi_Geetha-Mr. &Mrs. ‘55
    14. Thandi hawa kali ghata-Rafi_Geetha- “”””
    15. Yunto humne lakh-Rafi-tumsa nahin
    16. Jawaniya yeh mast-Rafi-tumsa nahin
    17Sarpar topi-Rafi_asha- tumsa nahin
    18. Thandi thandi hawa-Asha_Geetha-Johny walker
    19.Boonz mer kya naamre-Shamshad-CID
    20. Hai dil mushkil-Rafi_Geetha-CID
    21. Ankhon hi ankhonne-Rafi_Geetha-CID
    22.Oh leke pehla pehla-Rafi_Asha_Shamshad-CID
    23.Yahan hum vahan tum-Rafi_Geetha-Shreemati 420
    24. Mai dhundthi hun-Rafi_Asha-Shremathi 420
    25. Kabhi aar kabhi paar-shamshad-Aarpaar
    26. Mangke saath-Rafi_Asha-Naya Daur
    27. Ana hai to aa raah me-Rafi-Naya Daur
    28. Reshmi salwar kurta-Asha_Shamshad-Naya daur
    29.Chori lutere daku-Geetha_Ustad
    30.Darshan kab donge-Rafi-Bhagam bhag
    31. Priya priya priya-Kishore_Asha-Baapre baap
    32. Meri needon me tum-Kishore_Shamshad-Naya andaz
    33. jhuka jhuka hai-Mukhesh-Geetha-Miss coca cola
    34. Jaadugar sanwariya-Asha-Dhake ki mal mal
    35. Yaad karun tori-Suraiya-Mr. Lambu
    36. Puchon na hamen-Asha-Mittime sona
    37.Priya priya na lage mora-Asha-Fagun
    38.Jaye na pahad kahin-Asha-Mujrim
    39.Mera naam chin chin chu-Geetha-Howrah bridge
    40.Intki tukki panka ikka-Rafi-Howrah bridge
    41. Kajra mohobbat wala-Kisma
    42.Chehreto jara anchal-MK_Asha-Ek bar mushkurado
    43.Chal akela-mukhesh-Samabandh
    Purinderji’s first list:
    1. Pritam aan milo ; CH Atma; non-film
    2. Diwana hua badal; Rafi & Asha; Kashmir ki kali
    3. Pyar pa bas to nahin ; Talat & Asha; Sone ki chidiya
    4. Poocho na hamein ham unke liye; Asha; Miiti mein sona
    5. Main soya ankhiyan meeche;Rafi & Asha; Phagun
    6. Tum jo huye mere hamsafar; Geeta & Rafi; 12 o’Clock
    7. Meri neendon mein tum; Shamshad & Kishore; Naya Andaaz
    8. Ched diye mere dil ke taar ; Amir Khan; Raagini
    9. Phir bhi hai dil bequaraar; Asha; Kalpana
    10. Aap ke haseen rukh pe ; Rafi, Baharen Phir bhi Ayengi
    11. Kuch kuch hone laga; Asha & Shamshad; Dhake ki malmal
    12. Achha ji maaf kar do; Rafi & Geeta; Musafirkhana
    13. Bhool ja ye dil; Asha; Hum sab chor hain
    14. Tum zara si baat pe khafa na ho; Rafi & Suraiya; Mr Lambu
    15. Aaj maine jaana ; Asha;Farishta
    16. Baithe baithe door se ; Asha; Mujrim
    17. Kiske liye bekaraar gori aaj tera pyaar; Rafi & Asha;Ustad
    18. Dil tera diwana o mastani bulbul; Geeta & Asha; Mr Cartoon M.A.
    19. Chori chori ek ishaara ho gaya ; Rafi & Asha; Basant
    20. Baahon ko zara lehara de; Manna Dey & Asha; Kabhi Andhera kabhi ujala
    Ushaji’s list in #674:
    aayiye aap kahan…
    Aankhonse jo uthri…
    Yahin woh jagah hai
    chain se hum ko kabhi
    har tukda mere dil to name only some of her melodies under him
    Pukarta chala hoon main
    yeh chand sa roshan chehra
    tumsa nahin dekha
    lakhon hai nigah mein, a few of Rafis
    even Mukesh sang one of his best songs Chal akela chal akela for O.P.Nayyar
    and Kishore Kumar’s songs in Ek Baar Muskurado are considered some of his career best..
    Shishirji’s best in #490:
    1. bekasi had se jab (kalpana)
    2. udhar tum haseen ho (mr. n mrs.55)
    3. zulf lehrayi to (khoon ka badla khoon)
    4. ghallu ghallu na (neerajanam)
    5. mai miloongi tujhko (jaane mehboob)
    6. dil jhoom rahe masti me (bin maa ke bachche)
    7. honth hain tere (heera moti)
    8. seene me agar dil hai (muqaddar ki baat)
    9. ho jo hukum to meharbaan (hongkong)
    10.o meri gori gori jaan (aisa bhi hota hai)
    Ashraftji’s list attributed to OPN himself(Sirajji should confirm this):
    1) Pyar Par Bas To Nahin……..Talat/Sone Ki Chidiya
    1)Aana Hai To Aa…………….RafiNaya Daur.
    3)Dil Ki Aawaz Be Sun………..Rafi/Hamsaya.
    4)Aap ke Haseen Rukh…………Rafi/Baharein Phir Be Aayegain.
    5)Garib Jan ke Hum Ko………..Rafi-Geeta/Choomantar.
    6)Aanchal Mein Saja Lo……….Rafi/Phir Wohi Dil Laya HOON.
    7)Diwana HUa Badal…………..Rafi-Asha/Kashmir Ki Kali.
    8)Chain se Hum Ko Kabhe………AshaPran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye.
    9)Raaton Ko Chori Chori………Asha/Mohabbat Zindagi Hai.
    10)Diya To Jila Sab Raat Balam..C.Atma/Dhaake Ki Malmal
    Arunji’s list in #227:
    1.piya piya na laage mora jiya piloo
    2. mein soya ankhiyan meeche piloo
    3.aap yunhi agar humse milte rahe kedar
    4.humko tumhaare ishq ne kya kya bana diya kedar
    5.jaaiye aap kahan jaaengein piloo
    6.mein pyaar ka raahi hoon kirwaani
    7.pukaarta chala hoon mein kirwaani
    8.gareeb jaan ke humko na tum bhairavi
    9.kahin aar kahin paar laaga teere nazar piloo
    10.man mora baanwaraa tilang
    11.chhota sa baalma tilang
    12.raat bhar ka hai mehmaan andhera jogiya
    13.tu hi mera prem devta lalit
    14.chal akela chal akela chal akela bhairavi
    Surji’s list at #24:
    THE BEST OF OP NAYYAR
    Aana hai to aa – Naya Daur/Rafi
    Chal akela chal akela – Sambandh/Mukesh
    Deewana hua baadal – Kashmir Ki Kali/Rafi-Asha
    Dekho bijli dole – Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon/Asha Bhosle-Usha Mangeshkar
    Dil ki awaaz bhi sun – Humsaya/Rafi
    Mera naam chin chin chu – Howrah Bridge/Geeta Dutt
    Mere neendon mein tum – Naya Andaz/Kishore-Shamshad Begum
    Savere ka suraj – Ek Baar Muskura Do/Kishore
    Tu auron ki kyoon – Ek Baar Muskara Do/Kishore
    Tu hai mera prem devata – Kalpana/Rafi-Manna Dey
    Tukde hai mere dil ke – Mere Sanam/Rafi
    Yehi woh jagah hai – Yeh Raat Phir Na Aayegi/Asha

    44.Bekasi hudse jab-Asha-Kalpana
    45.Kabhi andhera kabhi ujala(Title song)-Asha-Kabhi andhera kabhi ujala
    46. Be dard preet nahin jani-Asha_Usha-Qaidi(I dont have this song)

    Comment by curao — January 27, 2008 @ 11:44 am | Reply

  995. hello kavita ji and c u rao ji,
    well,i understand badi badi shehar mein choti choti baatein aksar hoti rehthi hai.woh jo bhi ho,aap ki baaton ne dil khush kar diya.took some time to go thru the above informations…..felt totally elated to share some of them with my dad over the phone…rao sir,i mistook kavitajis post for urs…excuse me 4 that.in this biting cold in newyork,i spent my whole day watching and listening to songs from u tube.i cannot find poochon na hamen from mitti mein sona anywhere..i do not remember how many times i must have seen kashmir ki kali..sadly one of my most favourite songs balma khuli was edited from the movie..i assume they had to edit it bcoz the length of the movie was too long.undoubtedly opn saab was..is my favourite md..but my all time favourite song,rather one of them is kuch dil ne kaha from anupama…great melody and superb composition by hemant kumar.while browsing op songs in you tube,i came across this one…many great songs created 3-4 decades and some of them now are surely breath taking..in one of the shows(mission ustaad),javed akhtar rightly said…its not about old songs or new songs….its all about good songs and bad songs…am not sure how much you agree to this statement though??i would soon like to list some my favourite songs as well in the order of first 25..guess taz going to be too short a list…i will try ..honestly some of the songs i havnt even heard from movies like miss coca cola,mangu,musafirkhana and mr lambu..i am gonna find a way to get those songs…..when i spoke to my dad he did mention about these films and about good attempt in one of the films but nothing great…i think from aar paar,i could relate to most of the songs.i feel lucky to gain more knowledge about a great music director in this era of different music.

    Comment by thilaka — January 27, 2008 @ 12:40 pm | Reply

  996. Dear friends, Especially Kaveethaji, and Sirajji,
    Please read this post and next and give your considered opinion. As per the number of persons who selected a particular song, the following is the list generated with no. of inclusions agnst each.
    1. Jaayiye aap kahan-7
    2.Chain se humko-6
    3. Deewana hua badal-6
    4. Poochon na humen-6
    5.Chal akela-6
    6.Aapke haseen rukh-5
    7.Mangke saath-5
    8. Yunto humne -4
    9. anchal mein sajale-4
    10.Booz mera kya-4
    11.Kazra mohobbat-4
    12. Pukarta chala hun-4
    13.Ankhon se jo uthri-3
    14. Aap yuhin agar-3
    15. Balma khuli hawan-3
    16. Kabhi aar kabhi paar-3
    17. Dekho are dil bar-3
    18. Kajra mohobbat wala-3
    19. Ayiye meherbaan-3
    20.Ankhon hi ankhon-3
    21. Aana hai aa rahme-3
    22. Khoob surat sathi-3
    23.Leke pehla pehla-3
    24. Haath aaya hai-2
    25. Man morega-2
    Well, that is the list of 25. A few surprises for most of us pehaps. I have use my discretion or call it a casting vote only for the last 2 songs only, in the sense, there were a no. of songs with 2 “votes”. I selected these last 2 from among them.
    Now, note this very important thing. I THINK THIS LIST IS TO BE VETTED BY ALL FOR A DAY OR TWO. IF, SOME OF US FEEL STRONGLY THAT A FEW ALTERATIONS ARE TO BE MADE, WE CAN DO THAT.
    IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF EACH ONE’S FAVORITES IS NOT AMONG THESE. BUT PL. REMEBER THIS: THIS IS NOT A SINGLE MAN’S LIST, AND THEREFORE THERE IS SOME IMPERATIVENESS IN IT. I PERSONALLY HAVE NO OPINION ON THIS MATTER.
    Unfortunately, what it means is that the final list will not be ready for another day or two. Everyone is urged to give his/her seal of approval as soon as possible.
    THEN, I will do 2 things:
    1. I will upload these songs in mp3 to a suitable site. (Pl. forgive me for not knowing how to podcast-Kaveetaji, pl help me here).
    2. I will burn them to a CD and make sufficient copies and post them to all who are active now. Others can download from whatever site to which we upload.
    I request aproval again for this plan

    Comment by curao — January 27, 2008 @ 1:00 pm | Reply

  997. Further, to my previous posts, I may be forgiven for any mistakes in counting the no. of votes.
    Still further,
    I have a suggestion. Since a CD can accommodate more than 150 songs, Burning only 25, will leave a large empty space.
    I propose that I will burn all the selected songs of all lists(they wont be more than 150), as another album. The first album will be called “TOP 25” and the 2nd album will be called “Nuggets of Nayyar” or some other such title, suggestions being invited. Both will go into one CD only. No additionsl cost or trouble.

    Comment by curao — January 27, 2008 @ 1:08 pm | Reply

  998. Thanks for the list Rao Ji.
    I think you have mentioned kajra Mohabbat wala twice in #11 and #18. So we have place for another one.

    Also if you notice my last ten were also included in siraj jis list so that makes two of us if not more for these two songs:

    Honthon pe hunsi aankhon mein nasha

    Mujhe mera pyar de de

    and also songs like

    ‘Aapke haseen rukh’ ( also hemant jis fave)

    Tukde hai mere dil ke ( anil jis also)

    bahut shukriya .

    Oh God! I can go on.Its so impossible to leave out some. It feels as if disloyal to that song and the emotion it evokes.Help..friends.

    And ofcourse Rao ji, besides the 20 or 25 ( 25 more like it.. it would be difficult to further chop down to 20)whatever you’d like to compile besides these you are welcome to do so. “Unforgettable O P Nayyar” compilation.

    Actuually if one is to make our task simpler and smultaneously doing justice, since ALL numbers leave an indelible mark on your soul as it were, one could break into up into categories.. “Romantic Compositions” or “Duets” or Asha Top 20..what do you say?

    Thilaka.. wait for the final list..our erstwhile commenters here will finally whip up ‘poochho na Humein’ ..and you are most welcome to share your ideas and lists..whatever category with us. We can all pitch in with our suggestions and views.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 27, 2008 @ 2:10 pm | Reply

  999. Kaveetaji,
    Thanks for pointing out some mistakes in my list. As I was in a hurry,, a few mistakes crept in. kazra mohobbatwala appeared twice and it has to be combined, as per the way I did and gave votes, separately in each place. Then it will also have 7 points. As you say, there will be place for one more. Fortunately, I found that I overlooked one song with 3 votes(The block buster song, Babuji dhire chalna itself). I am also rearranging songs with the same no. of points. I did not deliberately make any attempt to include my own favorites. The list would have been entirely different in such a case. That is why I gave all the lists from earlier Sachniti posts for any one to verify and correct my mistakes.
    As you rightly said, there are so very very very many we would like to include. To tell you frankly, i am myself very surprised and disappointed that songs like, man more gaa, Badi mushkilse, tumhara chanewala, antam phantam, Thandi thandi hawa, Udhar tum hasin ho…. and so on really wonderful songs did not make the list.
    I had a talk with Purinderji and Krishnaji. You and siraj ji can alter the list as you like and replace the songs if you so wish. We decided to accept whatever changes are made, without any more dilly-dallying. Pl go ahead.
    1. Jaayiye aap kahan-7
    2. kazra mohobbatwala-7
    3.Chal akela-6
    5. Deewana hua badal-6
    6. Poochon na humen-6
    7.Chain se humko-6
    8.Mangke saath-5
    9.Aapke haseen rukh-5
    10. Yunto humne -4
    11. Pukarta chala hun-4
    12. anchal mein sajale-4
    13.Booz mera kya-4
    14. Babuji dhire chalna-3
    15.Ankhon se jo uthri-3
    16. Aap yuhin agar-3
    17. Balma khuli hawan-3
    18. Kabhi aar kabhi paar-3
    19. Dekho are dil bar-3
    20. Ayiye meherbaan-3
    21.Ankhon hi ankhon-3
    22. Aana hai aa rahme-3
    23. Khoob surat sathi-3
    24.Leke pehla pehla-3
    25. Bahut shukriya-2

    Comment by curao — January 27, 2008 @ 5:57 pm | Reply

  1000. Curao ji..can you send me the MP3 version of the aforementioned list. I will try and assemble a podcast. I cannot promise it will be ready by tomorrow, but I will definitely try..Also of consideration is the fact that a podcast is at most 1hr.20 minutes which may not be enough for 25 songs. But we will cross the bridge when we come to it. meanwhile please do send me the url address or mp3 versions of these songs.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 27, 2008 @ 6:54 pm | Reply

  1001. Oh wow..that marks 1000 comments and a list ready of TOP 25 ( waiting for siraj jis okay).. Congrats friends!!

    Most probably we have some sort of record here for the highest number of views and comments. I cannot vouch for the web world as a whole but definitely the Indian blogosphere. Naachgaana .com is the only other site where there may have been a post with these stats. It is also one of my favourite sites. I looked it up but previously there was a record of their most popular posts which is not available now. However,I think we maybe the highest.Kudos to you all!!

    Without wanting to take any bit of credit I must honestly confess this is The Magic Of OPN’s Music.

    That can be a good title for our tribute.. what say friends?

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 27, 2008 @ 6:56 pm | Reply

  1002. Kaveetaa ji, it is really appropriate that comment No # 1000, on the eve of the passing away of OP Nayyar, was yours.

    When you wrote this blog, could you have ever imagined that this blog will generate the kind of interest, camaraderie,views and feelings that it has ? Thank you for bringing us together.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 27, 2008 @ 7:06 pm | Reply

  1003. ocngratulations Kaveetaji for getting the chance of magic no. 1000 th post. It is very apt. for you who are the the guiding mentor of this Sachniti. i too am satisfied for getting 999!

    Comment by curao — January 27, 2008 @ 7:37 pm | Reply

  1004. Kaveethaji,
    Iam sending a folder attachment with about 18 out of 25 songs titled “Nayyar’s top 25”, to your gmail address , furnished to me by krishna garu. kavitaok@gamil.com. Is it correct? Give me a mail at cumrao@gmail.com if you receive this folder. I am so tired now, working on this from morning, if this succeds, i will send the remaiing songs tomorrow morning. sorry I could not keep upto the deadline of making it ready today, the eve of the anniversary of his demise.

    Comment by curao — January 27, 2008 @ 8:13 pm | Reply

  1005. Dear friends

    Abhi to hazaar se hazaron mein jaana hai. Kaveetaa, dili mubarakbaad aap ko aur Pavan ko, jo aap ko is khuli hawa mein idhar udhar behekne dete hein.

    On the T25, Rao saab must be commended to compile it. With so many entries, a few errors can always creep in. There also appears to be a good mix between the Purana Daur(the 1950s)and Naya Daur (1960 onwards). Thank you for giving me the opportunity to make another review.I looked at it with a different lens this time. In addition to thinking from the mind, I also tried to think from the heart (our joint hearts). Based on that, please allow me to suggest two changes to the list and replace #22 and #24 with the following:

    #22 Aana hai to aa with
    Thandi thandi hawa, puche unka pata

    # Leke pehla pehla pyar with
    Meri Neendon mein Tum, mere khawabon mein tum

    I must confess that I am rather surprised to see how #13 Boojh mera kya naam re made it to the list at all. There must be at least 150 songs in OPN’s compositions way ahead of it – both in terms of popularity as well as overall composition and voice quality. There must be something in this song which my ears have not been able to pick up over all thesse years. However, we will go with the flow, I guess.

    So we now move to the next level, assuming we are on common ground now and are in agreement with the changes.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 27, 2008 @ 8:33 pm | Reply

  1006. Thilaka ji,

    Being an ardent fan of O.P., it gives me great pleasure to see you participating on this blog as a new face. Regarding the song “Poochon Na Hamen” from Mitti Mein Sona, you can hear and down load from Rapshody. Some time back I heard from my friends living in India that they couldn’t access Rapshody. Folks in U.S. don’t have that problem and since you live in New York, you should not have any difficulties. Go to Google search, type in O.P. Nayyar” and search. On page 1 of the results, you will see Free Onlime Music… http://www.rapshody.com/opnayyar2.

    In addition to communicating through this blog, a few of us are taking up the friendship and communication a step further by e-mailing and conversing on the phone. This way I have built a good friendship with CU Rao, Hemant, Purinder, and Siraj Khan.

    I live in Bloomington, Illinois which is about 125 miles south of Chicago (some what mid way between Chicago and St. Louis, Missouri). You are welcome to call me at 309-662-5096 or reach me by e-mail krbaru@hotmail.com

    Hope this information will help you.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 27, 2008 @ 8:38 pm | Reply

  1007. Dear Thilaka

    You seem to be not far from Boston. We should speak. I hope you are not intentionally avoiding my posts (just joking). May I draw your attention to #979 where there is the real story behind Balma Khuli Hawa Mein. You better believe it because its from none other than OPN himself.

    Kuch Dil ne Kaha is my all-time #2 after Waqt Ne Kiya of Geeta’s. Its like a Mona Lisa of film music. Ther was something that I always enjoyed with OPN – that my all time 3 favourites were not OP compositions. But he took over my heart, soul and spirit from then on. In my all-time T20 list, there are no less than 7 OPN hits. No other composer even comes close.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 27, 2008 @ 8:48 pm | Reply

  1008. Siraj ji..aap ka andaz anokha hai…lol

    Jee haan..Pavan Ki Poorvi hoon. na woh hamare begair na hum unke bagair behek sakte hain idhar udhar.

    Cu Rao jis mp3 have come..18 songs so far..i am trying my best to get it on to a podcast. Now with the change that you have suggested..some editing might have to be done which i have no clue about…But yahan tak pahunche hain to aage bhi theek ho jayega I guess. I may not be able to reply no till i complete these tasks..please excuse friends. I shall get back in detail later to all.

    Thanks to all and a big congrats!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 27, 2008 @ 8:52 pm | Reply

  1009. Siraj ji,
    The 2 changes you suggested. the first, I totally agree 200%. Thandi thand hawa is one of my all-time favorites. But, alas, Meri needon mein tum, should be there. By mistake it got omitted though getting 4 points. i again apologize for this. but, dont displace leke pehla pehla pyar. Leke pehla is my best OPN song, I rank it as one of the ten best by any MD. how about replacing aayiye meherbani. Certainly leke pehla is more popular than aayiye meherban.

    Comment by curao — January 27, 2008 @ 9:26 pm | Reply

  1010. Cu Rao, Kaveetaa, and Siraj Khan Saheb and friends,

    It’s alomost impossible if not difficult to choose the Top 20, 25, 40, 50 and so on from O.P. ji’s marvellous creations. His beat and his style are unique .. one of a kind .. a rare gift to humanity. Let us not worry which 25 should be in the list.

    CU Rao ji has put in lot of time and effort in this project and let’s give him a free hand in choosing the TOP 20 or 25. Since time is of essence, let us move on. In fact, AAiye Meherba was not a very big hit compared with Leke Pehla Pyar. So I will go along with any Top 20 or 25 selection.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 27, 2008 @ 9:46 pm | Reply

  1011. Friends on a trial basis i have just uploaded the 18 songs.

    On the right hand column..please scroll up and click on “click to play”..
    Please let me know how its working.

    I have also uploaded it on this post itself..read bottom of post.

    updated:
    all 25 uploaded…whew!! hope it works

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 27, 2008 @ 10:11 pm | Reply

  1012. I am unable to open/play. My computer does not recognize the software

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 28, 2008 @ 12:28 am | Reply

  1013. I encountered the same problem.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 28, 2008 @ 1:19 am | Reply

  1014. OP NAYYAR’s OWN favourite creations for TOP25

    Released in print for the first time (to the best of my kbowledge and belief)

    -Baboo jee Dheere Chalnaa…. Geeta Dutt…..majrooh sultanpuri-AAR PAAR .
    -Kabhee Aar Kabhee Paar …Shamshad Begum -majrooh sultanpuri -AAR PAAR.
    -Ye Kyaa Kar Daalaa Toone Dil Tera Hogaya.ASHA -HASRAT JAIPURI -HOWRAH BRIDGE
    -Main Soyaa Ankhiyaan Meeche ….ASHA-RAFI ,-QAMAR JALALABADI -PHAGUN
    -Hampe Dil Aaya To Bolo Kya ..ASHA-RAFI-SHAMSHAD,-QAMAR JALALABADI -DO USTAD
    -Hamein Maaro Na Nainon Ke Baan….ASHA -QAMAR JALALABADI-KALPANA.
    -Bekasee Had Se Jab Guzar Jaaye….ASHA -JANISAR AKHTAR -KALPANA.
    -Ye Duniyaa Rahe Na Rahe Kyaa Pataa….ASHA -S.H.BIHARI,-MITTI MEN SONA.
    -Phir Tere Shahar Mein Lutne Ko..RAFI-SHEVAN RIZVI -EK MUSAFIR EK HASINA.
    -Aanchal Mein Saja Lena …RAFI -MAJROOH SULTANPURI -PHIR WOHI DIL LAYA HOON.
    -Hai Duniyaa Usee Kee Zamaana Usee Kaa….RAFI -S.H.BIHARI -KASHMIR KI KALI.
    -Ye Hai Reshmee Zulfon Ka Andheraa…..ASHA MAJROOH SULTANPURI -MERE SANAM.
    -Raaton Ko Choree Choree Bole …..ASHA,-S.H.BIHARI -MOHABBAT ZINDAGI HAI.
    -Aaj Koee Pyaar Se Dil Kee Baatein K….ASHA S.H.BIHARI -SAWAN KI GHATA.
    -Main Shayad Tumhare Liye Ajnabei…ASHA -S.H.BIHARI-YEH RAAT PHIR NA AAYEGI.
    -Dil Ke Aawaaz Bhee Sun Mere Fasaane Pe …..RAFI -SHEVAN RIZVI -HUMSAYA.
    -Muhabbat Ho Gai Jinse Shikayat Unse….ASHA S.H.BIHARI-KAHIN DIN KAHIN RAAT.
    -Bade Khooobsurat Bade Hee Haseen…..ASHA -AZIZ KASHMIRI -DIL AUR MOHABBAT.
    -Haath Aaya Hai Jab Se Teraa…ASHA-MEHENDRA,-SHEVAN RIZVI -DIL AUR MOHABBAT.
    -Ek Baar Muskuraa Do.ASHA -KISHORE -SHEVAN RIZVI -EK BAAR MUSKURAA DO .
    -Ek Tu Ae Piya Jispe Dil ..ASHA – S.H.BIHARI -PRAN JAYE PAR VACHAN NA JAYE.
    -Hoton pe hansi ankhon mein nasha…..ASHA-RAFI, SH Bihari, SAWAN KI GHATA
    -Phir Miloge Kabhi Is Baat Ka….RAFI-ASHA-SH BIHARI -YEH RAAT PHIR NA AYEGI
    -Huzoore wala jo ho ijazat..ASHA-MINOO P- AZIZ KASHMIRI-YEH RAAR PHIR NA AYEGI
    -Ankhon se ishara Kar ke Hamein…. ASHA…AZIZ KASHMIRI – NASIHAT

    This should be read in conjunction with the post which follows.

    Siraj Khan

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 28, 2008 @ 3:33 am | Reply

  1015. The making of the OPN25

    I first conceptualized this in February 2005. I thought it would be easy. Just ask him directly. However, I found that either he did not have ready answers as he was unsure of which ones he really liked (or otherwise)or he was reluctant to disclose. I cranked out my Top10 and wanted to get a feeler from him. He just laughed and did not give an opinion, much to my disappointment. There was one solitary comment (which I upgraded to take as a compliment. The list did not have Chein Se of PJPVNJ but had Dekho Are Dilbar in it. He asked me why and I said because Chein Se is a spin-off from Ja Ja Ja Ja Bewafa from Aar Paar. He was quiet for a few seconds and then said that he was amazed that nobody had ever come up with that link. He confessed that there was a link but it was unintentional. I then decided to take the scenic route of discovery. Songs would come up in our discussions and I would note which ones he liked, talked about more, or discussed certain aspects of the song structure. Notes started to build. e.g in one of our discussions he says

    OP: Do you know I never liked Mahendra Kapoor as a singer.
    SK: But Hath Aya Hai Jab se is a gem. I love it.
    OP: Its my favourite too
    SK: I’m not sure what you mean
    OP: Asha’s rendering in it is wonderful. The lyrics are brilliant and by the way. I chipped in there with “Roshni zindagi mein mohabbat se hai, warna rakha hai kya chandni raat mein” lines sung by Asha. The tune came round great too.
    SK: And of course you then got your signature beat to set it in
    OP: I had no choice. The producers wanted it recorded the next day.

    So that to me was good enougha basis to slot it in the OP25.

    The process was slow and by the time of his death, I had managed to compile only 40. For our own initiative, I scaled it down further to 25. Despite my confidence, I was still not at the comfort level at my endeavour and I decided to get OPN’s adopted daughter Rani Nakhwa(fondly called Raju)in the loop, and follow a clean-sheet approach. That she would not have access to my list and compile from her own experience of living with him for 11+ years. What really amazed me was that I was able to validate 21 out of my list of OP25 with hers. Hence, only the last 4 in the list would require my own observation, verbal exchanges/remarks and my own judgement call.

    While we Sachinitians were already having problems putting together our T25, the surprises coming from OPN25 give an interesting twist to our results. Some of the songs which we were fighting to keep, were never on his radar at all because he did not think much of them. On the contrary, a few of his selections would never even feature in my Top 100.

    It would be nice if somebody more analytical can be do a comparative analysis of our T25 with OPN25.

    Its already January 28th although all in India are still asleep as I write.
    And this is where I will stop. I see him and SH Bihari in Heaven composing songs for the Creator. My eyes are wet in his memories and I can write no more.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 28, 2008 @ 4:57 am | Reply

  1016. Coming in for just a moment..Friends you will have to download ‘pando’..thisis the format/software rao ji sent me the songs in.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 28, 2008 @ 8:29 am | Reply

  1017. Let me be the first in India to pay my tributes to the unforgettable maestro, Sangeethka jadugar, Rythm king, on the day of his first vardanthi.
    Dear Nayyar, You created such wonderful, trend setting, exhilarating, rejuvenating, lively, and vibrant music that we can never forget you. After going through many trials, you scaled the peaks and reached such heights of popularity unparalled in the history of Indian music.
    Though, you had your share of glories and disappointments and emotional setbacks, you took them all in your stride philosophically and remained steadfast in your beliefs. May your soul rest in peace with the almighty and shower us all who worshiped you for your music, with your blessings from heaven

    Comment by curao — January 28, 2008 @ 8:36 am | Reply

  1018. Kaveetaji, Thank you for your initiative and motivating efforts in making it posssible to get the top 25. Though, I also could not access them, I presume it will be possible.
    Will it be possible to make a small change in the songs? I do not mean replacemnt of any. I just want to join the Rafi’s yunto humne with the bit by Asha. It will be a plesant surprise to amny hopefully.

    Comment by curao — January 28, 2008 @ 8:42 am | Reply

  1019. still trying..getting to the bottom of the problem..will keep you posted. I want desperately to put them on today..it will happen. The posting on the podcast seems to be done. I wonder why you all cannot hear it..Blessings from above will open up the path I am sure..

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 28, 2008 @ 10:12 am | Reply

  1020. On the first death anniversery of O.P. Nayyar which falls on 28/01/2008. I pay tribute to him which is highlighted below:

    Music Maestro O.p. Nayyar
    ‘A shorcut to express love and praise for the fabulous music of legendry artist, who never compromised against his style of music’.
    O Outstanding
    P Performance
    N No Match in Music
    A Always Best Tunes
    Y Years after years his magical music
    would haunt music lovers
    Y You and only your music have strong
    beats and rhythm par-excellence
    A ‘A’ class music he gave in every film
    R Really for ages there shall be no match
    for O.P. Nayyar

    Ten Hits of OPN
    Songs Name of the movie
    1. Punarjanam Main Millongee Balam (Private Song sung by N.L. Puri)
    2. Bol Pardeisyaa Tohe Kya Kiya (Mangu)
    3. Jhuka Jhuka ke Nigaahein Milaye
    (Miss Coca Cola)
    4. Jhoote Zamaane Bharke (Musafir Khanna)
    5. Diyaa to Jalaa (Dhake ki Malmal)
    6. Meree Needon Main Tum (Naya Andaz)
    7. Yahaan Hum Wahaan Tume (Shrimati 420)
    8. Yoon Muskuraa ke Saamne Aaya (Qaidi)
    9. Jaan Sake To Jaan (Ustad)
    10. Poochho Na Hamein Ham Unke Liye
    (Mitti main Sona)

    Suresh Bhatia

    Comment by Suresh Bhatia — January 28, 2008 @ 4:18 pm | Reply

  1021. Friends,

    Incidentally out of the blue, a friend made me speak with Tushar Bhatia, the music director of Santoshis film “Andaz apna apna”. If you remember the song ‘Ae lo ji sanam ham aa gaye” from the film and the unmistakable OPN beats and melody as if pervading every strain of that song, you will acknowledge the fact that he is an ardent fan of OPN.It was uncanny how we got in touch with each other today itself..It seemed ordained.

    In his own words and in OPN’s words Tushar told me that OPN often addressed him as his ‘biggest fan’. He was in touch with O P ji till the end and the passion with which he narrated to me his meetings with the maestro were telling of someone who indeed was a complete devotee of op ji. It was heart rending to listen first hand of O P jis death last year today and the fact that nobody from the film industry was there. Tushar told me that apart from Rani Nakhwa, Ashwini Karandikar and him there wasnt anyone around. He in fact placed the last flowers and took snaps with his mobile.

    I could have gone on listening to him speak. He is obviously emotionally heartbroken today but I have invited him over at Sachiniti to share his memories with us his devout fans. He mentioned that O P ji did not want to be reminded of his songs which he had composed almost 21 years earlier since each had a history behind that was unnerving for him, whether to do with Asha Bhonsle or Geeta dutt. O P ji I am told felt guilty that he did not perhaps accord her the attention and opportunity to sing under his baton more often than he did. He felt she was given a raw deal.

    It is indeed amazing the kind of fervent emotion O P jis fans can summon..purely from the inner love they share for him and his melodies.This from a man with no formal training..it never ceases to amaze me. Obviously a gift from the Divine Mother Saraswati herself.

    WordPress does not support audio uploads. i tried various permutations and combinations. Uploading all songs took me quite a few hours only to realise that the only way one can hear it is on you tube.

    Or.. I can forward the songs to whoever contacts me on kavitaok At gmail.com. You can then download and hear them at your convenience.

    Siraj ji.. OPn’s list was such a revelation. There are some which I dont recall..which only goes to prove that to a creator his art is personal since it enfolds within not just a melody but also a memory. Most interesting.

    I have not mentioned this earlier but as a child actor I worked among other films, in ‘Saawan Ki Ghata’ and my meetings with him as a child were most memorable. I simply loved the songs of that film. I suspected that I was biased but am most thrilled to see ” Aaj koi pyar se ‘ in Op Jis list. My father was born on 13th January, 3 days apart from O P ji and they were both from Chakwal..Papa knew him well and O P ji often complimented Papa on his Urdu couplets. Looking at him on recent shows often reminded me of my father.

    Purinder ji.. on April 16th 2006 when I wrote this post, almost in tears and strangely also overwhelmed with memories of the songs I had grown up with, I felt nothing but a deep sense of love and respect for OP ji and a deep anguish at the predicaments he had faced. I wrote because I had to purge out my sadness, more as a catharsis but also hoping somewhere that our love and adulation for him provides him solace and comfort in those moments when he required them most.I just wanted this emotion to waft through the stillness of cosmos into his soul. I believe in synchronicity and that we are all connected. It perhaps worked.

    But never for a second did I imagine that this post would finally morph into a space where he would be worshipped. It almost as if he has orchestrated it all..along with my father. I feel humbled and blessed. There is no greater deed than to worship those who deserve to be.. no greater karma than to accord tumultous applause to an artist who has provided millions with moments of peace, love, blisfulness and joy. OP ji was a part of HIS divine plan to gift us a repertoire of melodies we find so much difficulty sifting through to create a list in hierarchy of choice.Incredible and almost unprecedented. Musicians are not made they are born.

    Friends I feel we are all connected subtly and for a purpose.May we continue to kindle our spirits with Love and spread the aroma of unconditional compassion for all. Life is short but long enough to create a ripple of peace in the vastness of stormy seas of existence.

    I fold my hands in prayer that he is at rest in the knowledge that O P Nayyar will NEVER be forgotten..Amen!!

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 28, 2008 @ 4:58 pm | Reply

  1022. Kaveetaa ji, your latest post needed more than 1 reading to truly gather the essence of its soul and its message. Apart from being a deeply personal expression of feelings, your conversation with Tushar Bhatia , as related by you, evoked a deeply sensitive and at times a disturbing picture of the great OP Nayyar.

    One valued much your talking about the emotions that culminated in your original blog of 16th April 2006. The fact that this blog has seen a considerable transformation of its original character is attributable to the extensive and deeply personal involvement of many, sincere and true individuals. You have nurtured this metamorphisis and growth.For this, you richly deserve our appreciation and gratitude. Perhaps, one of the real positives of this coming together of like-minded people has been the championing of worthy causes – the support to Mubarak Begum sahiba comes to mind, as it is so fresh.
    So, on this particular and special day, one can only marvel at Providence for bringing people together in friendship and in the quest for doing some good.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 28, 2008 @ 9:08 pm | Reply

  1023. Dear Kaveetaa

    Wonderful expression of sentiments!

    I called Nayar saab’s home earlier today, and if my collection is right, a small number of nears and dears are in his room right now and singing his songs to remember him.

    I am wearing his kurta today, one of the many I walked away with taken from his closet.

    So what are we doing about the final T25 now? Can we burn regular CDs and circulate these amongst ourselves? Personally, I am not that excited about the MP3/150 songs idea. Somehow, it just waters down and downplays the T25 concept that we conceptualized.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 28, 2008 @ 11:14 pm | Reply

  1024. Dear kavita,
    Words fail me to express the amount of joy/bliss/exhilaration /unleashment this great composer’s music has imparted to to me personally and to my family…my cousins and my friends.

    Being a composer i can say very humbly, I am baffled at his work!

    To some afficianados,is music defies logic and grammer.But whatever he chooses to do is ALWAYS AND ALWAYS AESTHETIC!Nothing ever sounded more perfect than in his works!
    His work is divine!His music is straight from the heart and goes right there…. and stays there for ever!

    I do have a lot to say about my dearest beloved Nayyar sahab but i am afraid it will run into volumes……

    Heres one of the songs that i wrote for him and had it perfomed in front of him on his birthday in 1994.

    Baat jo jigar me hai nazar me wo payam hai
    pehla pehla ye huzur aap ko salam hai

    To Haale dil bayan karun bura agar na maniye
    hoon aap ki janaab mein mujhe bhi apna janiye
    jo dhundta raha hun main yahi to wo maqam hai

    pehla pehla ye huzur aap ko salam hai

    sahem sahem udas the woh saaz gunguna diye
    lakhon chirag jal uthe jo aap muskura diye
    aa raat jhil mila rahi chali ufaq se shaam hai
    pehla pehla ye huzur aap ko salaam hai

    mile jo saath aapka to mushkilen sahel bhi hon
    jo khwab ek laqeer hain unhi ke ab mahel bhi hon
    lo naam aapke hamari zindagi tamam hai
    pehla pehla ye huzur aap ko salam hai

    Baat jo jigar me hai nazar me wo payam hai
    pehla pehla ye huzur aap ko salam hai

    as I was the last one to leave the crematorium I sang to his ashes.. ‘aapne jo hai diya woh toh kisine na diya’..exactly a year ago.

    Comment by Tushar Bhatia — January 28, 2008 @ 11:39 pm | Reply

  1025. Hemant , probably OPN wanted to bring both Asha and Geeta Dutt to the forefront as both had talent. But you see, Geeta Dutt must have been lady with a conscience, meaning not to be
    hurtfully competitive. Asha B’s silence even after a year of the maestro’s death is a testimony, to the rank opportunism of gratitudeless atitude. In this aspect. I salute OPN and his great soul for giving us two great female singers, but among the two female singers my admiration and full marks is to Geeta Dutt.

    Comment by gajanan — January 29, 2008 @ 6:00 am | Reply

  1026. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jCN1aMIY3CE
    Bhagam Bhag . See Bhagwan Dada with Rafi OPN

    Comment by gajanan — January 29, 2008 @ 9:06 am | Reply

  1027. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVvQkqQ52o&feature=related
    See Dev Saab with the topi and swinging his head to the tilting tunes. Teen , tu -teen tu. Wah Rafi saab. Again OPN

    Comment by gajanan — January 29, 2008 @ 9:09 am | Reply

  1028. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EB0lV4HtYZA
    Do Ustad
    …….Worli ka Naka
    Rafi for Raj Kapoor

    Comment by gajanan — January 29, 2008 @ 9:14 am | Reply

  1029. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j1NTTYA6AEM
    Baap re Baap
    Ultimate Kishore & ASha song with great yodelling. OPN at his best

    Comment by gajanan — January 29, 2008 @ 9:33 am | Reply

  1030. A OPN’s die hard fan web site. Listen to his passion for OPN as the web site opens. Lots of Info on the web site.

    http://dr-narasinha-kamath.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/02/latest-on-opnayyar/comments.htm

    Comment by gajanan — January 29, 2008 @ 9:45 am | Reply

  1031. Rare video recording of OPN , Rafi and Asha short one could have been longer.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mCyU2cNXjCs&feature=related

    Comment by gajanan — January 29, 2008 @ 9:50 am | Reply

  1032. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gdzborjAJ6g
    Good one. Hum saab chor hain

    Comment by gajanan — January 29, 2008 @ 10:23 am | Reply

  1033. Audio of EK baar Muskaro do . Kishore at his best. Mukesh with Asha wonderful song. OPN at his best.

    http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/hindi_bollywood/s/movie_name.722/

    Comment by gajanan — January 29, 2008 @ 1:17 pm | Reply

  1034. Kaveetaji,
    You are so very fortunate that you actually worked in a film as a child artiste. The sentiments you expressed in so flowery a language does justice to both your attachment to the cause and your talents. congratulations. And my heart felt thanks for making all this possible, which was appreciated by so many already.

    Regarding making songs available, did you not download them to your hard disc? If you have done that, then you can upload them to vodpod and kavee’s video collection. Is it not? BTW, Can you send through gmail all the songs in one go? The space required will be about 100mb. I dont know how much does gmail allow as an attachment. Yahoo allows only 10mb.
    Shall I go ahead and and compile songs for one full CD, incorporating all the favorite songs of all boarders here?
    Thilakaji,
    If you do not get Poochon na hamen from any other source, I can send it to you as a mail attachment if you dont mind sending your email address to me.
    Sirajji,
    Thanking you for the list of OP25. it gives us an insight into his thinking and of course there are 2 surprises. Frankly, it is more satisfactory to me than our 25.

    Comment by curao — January 29, 2008 @ 7:59 pm | Reply

  1035. hello siraj ji,krishna baru ji,c u rao ji,kavita ji,
    thank you so much for all the admirations shown by all of you in above comments..have been extremely busy attending fashion orientation programmes in newyork.hence have been unable to repond ..i will be more than happy to get in touch with you all personally to share some of my views..i m hoping to travel to india(mumbai)soon.date not finalised.my email id is thilakakrishnan@gmail.com.
    siraj ji,i managed to listen to poochon na…from rhapsody..that was probably the only song from op tracks,where the quality was not that great.i can call you and talk to you soon.you can send me your number on my gmail id.
    krishna ji,i have noted your number and will get in touch with you soon.
    kavita ji,i am looking forward to meeting you in person..i have worked in bollywood for couple of years as a fashion stylist and costume designer with yash raj films,b r films,dharma productions(karan johar) and few others….i feel like a total amateur when i read your posts..when my dad used to discuss songs with his siblings and friends i used to feel like i m in a different planet all together.it just grew in me and sadly my singing abilities are restricted apart from my bathroom.
    most of the songs i could listen from rhapsody..siraj ji,its interesting to share the common views..my most favorite two songs were unfortunately were not by o p saab.one of them is mayee re(madan mohan)dastak..and the other being kuch dil ne kaha(anupama.but as said its not fair to compare oranges with apples…

    Comment by thilaka — January 30, 2008 @ 12:59 am | Reply

  1036. c u rao ji,
    my above msg regarding poochon na was for you….i hope u got my e mail id.

    Comment by thilaka — January 30, 2008 @ 2:18 am | Reply

  1037. What can i say about the great O P Nayyar that hasnt already been said? The man’s music has given me decades of pleasure. Just the first few bars of his music – any song – is enough to bring a broad smile on my face even when i’m in the worst of moods. The man was a magician.

    Comment by Shyamal — January 30, 2008 @ 2:57 am | Reply

  1038. Hi all,
    am down with flu..will respond to each of you soon.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — January 30, 2008 @ 9:29 am | Reply

  1039. Hi Kaveeta

    You will soon be up and running!

    Take care…

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 31, 2008 @ 4:39 am | Reply

  1040. Kaveetaa ji, your being ill is a bit like the car running on an empty tank – just petrol vapour!! Get well and get back , soon.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 31, 2008 @ 2:06 pm | Reply

  1041. Kaveetaa ji,

    We wish you get better soon. Take it easy for a while and recuperate.

    Take care.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 31, 2008 @ 4:36 pm | Reply

  1042. hello kavita ji,
    get well soon.adhrak ki chai and o p songs will put you back in action soon..:-)..take care.

    Comment by thilaka — January 31, 2008 @ 10:56 pm | Reply

  1043. hello all..especially corao ji,
    in my above msg i have written about the song quality not being good…..pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaase dont misinterpret ..the song is a masterpiece..what i meant was,in rhapsody the song does not play properly.it stops half way for couple of secs and lot of disturbances too…most of the other songs play perfectly.

    Comment by thilaka — January 31, 2008 @ 11:01 pm | Reply

  1044. Thank you Purinder ji, krishna ji, Siraj ji, Thilaka for your good wishes.Just reading through all of them reinvigorated my spirits. I am perfectly fine now. I guess walking on Carters with the wind blowing furiously, uncharacteristic of Mumbais dipping temperatures was not a good idea after all.

    Thank you for #1022 Purinder ji. Your warm and caring sentiments expressed through your words touch me deeply. Yes I am glad that this space has become one where legends are applauded even though it originally began with OP ji. Although if you read through posts no 535 onwards you will realise we had to fight quite a battle with Siraj ji over this..LOL. And nemesis then had its sway when Siraj ji himself brought out the cause of Mubarak begum ji thereby vindicating to a certain degree what I had envisioned in the first place..a site where talent is celebrated and pain shared. Thanks Siraj ji for understanding my contention finally.

    Hi Tushar after reading your composition dedicated to O P ji I think no greater evidence is needed to prove your adulation on the verge of Bhakti that you have over the years worshipped him with.

    Friends after this comment, Tushar called me up to request correction on certain words of his poem. we spoke for an hour again where he breathlessly, zealously recalled his time spent with O P ji, how he was present in the house when op ji received the call for lata mangeshkar award which he declined for obvious reasons. O P ji needed no singer..he made them and not the other way around. So how could he accept an award bearing her name.Tushar recently held an o p nite where corporate heads were present and even before he began the song ‘kajra mohabbatwala’ just on the beat and introduction, the guests were animatedly clapping.

    There was so much we talked about.

    I am surprised and disappointed however that my esteemed friends here have not welcomed Tushar. No words of warmth and camaraderie 😦

    Dear Cu Rao ji ,

    Thank you. Yes I have downloaded the songs on my comp after installing pando. About putting it on the vodpod there were two issues. One was the hesitation of it losing its purpose. Second is the method.Since this is a pando download I am not sure i will get the embed code or the hyperlink. In any case each song will have to be imported. Since you have access to my vodpod account and have already uploaded quite a few..perhaps you will be better equipped to do the needful..since you have the songs and not just through Pando.

    I was so so so upset that despite my bestest efforts the songs could not be uploaded here on Sachiniti. In fact my husband and son have never seen me so upset on the comp and were wondering how they could help ease it… from the looks of it they felt I would go into a loud bawl any moment so I guess were trying to avoid the catastrophe. But nothing helped. WordPress does not support podcasts of the kind.

    About sending the songs..yes they can be sent as a folder I guess.

    Hi Thilaka..you are sweet. Please do mail me when you are in Mumbai and we will take it from there.

    Hi Shyamal..Tushar spoke to me of you. You are his brother..right? And an equally HUGE fan. Welcome. I know what you mean when you say there is little you can add on O P ji after reams have been written here. Perhaps you could tell us your favourites and evaluate our list..as also O P jis personal list.

    Gajanan ji..thanks for all the links.. Where were you and why did you not participate in the listing session dear sir?

    Regards to all,
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 1, 2008 @ 11:49 am | Reply

  1045. Friends am copy pasting two mails received from Rohan and Siraj ji.

    Rohans event was covered on the Pune TOI

    “HI. Reproducing an article from the Times Of India (Pune edition) covering the upcoming “Shruti” event.

    Cheers…….
    Rohan

    ================================================================================

    Pune
    Ailing Manohari to get Nayyar award
    30 Jan 2008, 0307 hrs IST,TNN

    PUNE: Well-known saxophone and key-flute player Manohari Singh will be presented the second O.P. Nayyar Award for his contribution to the Hindi film industry.

    Nandu Belwalkar and Rohan Pusalkar, trustees of the O.P. Nayyar Foundation, have announced that the award will be presented to Singh by renowned actor of yesteryears Vishwajeet.

    “Although we thought of many other musicians, we decided on Manohariji because he has his roots in Western music and is very much a part of the film industry even at this age. Last year, the first such award was given to musician Enoch Daniels,” said Pusalkar.

    Singh has suffered from kidney failure and has to spend as much as Rs 22,000 per week for dialysis.

    “He is in dire need of financial assistance and we have so far collected Rs 51,000 for the award. Music-lovers are still sending in their contributions,” said Belwalkar.”

    Interestingly, the late composer O.P. Nayyar had made a provision in his will that the royalties’ receivable by him from the Indian Performing Right Society (IRPS) be utilized to give financial help to needy composers.

    Belwalkar added that the IRPS was not doing enough to expedite the procedure of collection of royalties due in Nayyar’s name. “In fact, we plan to approach the Cine Music Director’s Association to help us.”

    ****************************************************************************************

    The mail from Siraj ji is a forward from someone who spent the day at Rani’s home on 28th January and is a depiction of their activities.

    “Yesterday eve, Babuji’s first death anniversary. Few close ones (in all 20) gathered at Raju’s home to pay musical tribute to Babuji. Bhavanaji happily agreed to participate and sung Babuji’s 7 favourate songs- Puchho No Hame Hum Unkelaye, Piya Piya Na Lage More Jiya, Yehi Wo Jagah Hai, Main Shayad Tumhareliye Ajnabi Hoon, Yeh Duniya Rahe Na Rahe Kaya Pata, Balama Khuli Havamen and Meri Jaan Tumpe Sadke. Bhavanaji added my two recorded devotional songs, appreciated by Babuji, in her list. She sung so brilliently that the listeners were moved. I accompanied her on Harmonium and one renowned Tabla player too care of the rhythm side. Just simple but quite adequate orchestra for the event. It was so nice experience to remember Babuji through his such melodious and immortal compositions.
    Pralhad.”

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 1, 2008 @ 12:42 pm | Reply

  1046. Hello friends.

    Its been a long absence. I was completely off the computer since my parents had both taken ill. Now by the grace of god they are doing fine. It took me three days of reading in spurts and jerks to reach the last post finally. there are so many new writers here. Purinder ji, Tushar Bhatia, Jatin lall and so many more. Some of the old ones like Ashraft and arun bajaj I dont see here.All the same it was wonderful to go through the contributions.And congrats Kaveetaa ji your efforts have borne fruits.the spirit behind this endeavour is important which you are the one.
    I was a little intrigued by the last post where pralhad has mentioned O P jis favourites. They are mine too absolutely. But dont see many of them on the final list. And most of these are not from his earlier movies. Any comments?

    Comment by Krishnan — February 1, 2008 @ 4:16 pm | Reply

  1047. Thanks for remembering me Kishnan. I read here everyday at least once if not more.It gives me more pleasure reading than writing.There have to be by standers in the world or who will watch the performers.

    The point you made about OPjis list as mentioned by Prahlad it may have to do with time. ‘Memories behind the melodies’ as Kaveetaa ji aptly described it, his association with those songs, which may perhaps have been subject to change depending on his frame of mind. Possible?

    Comment by Jatin Lall — February 2, 2008 @ 8:58 am | Reply

  1048. Hi Krishnan ji and Jatin ji,

    Good to see you back. Krishnan ji fgood to hear your parents are doing well now. Give them your all ..they are next best to Him up there who we never get to meet. Thanks for your kind words.

    Jatin ji, whilst speaking with Tushar ,strangely he mentioned the same thing you have namely O P ji apparently changed his favourites all too often..LOL..telling of someone who barely listened to his compositions in the latter years of his life.I guess we will never know for sure exactly which were his pet songs.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 2, 2008 @ 12:09 pm | Reply

  1049. Hi Krishnan ji and Jatin ji,

    Good to see you back. Krishnan ji good to hear your parents are doing well now. Give them your all ..they are next best to Him up there who we never get to meet. Thanks for your kind words.

    Jatin ji, whilst speaking with Tushar ,strangely he mentioned the same thing you have namely O P ji apparently changed his favourites all too often..LOL..telling of someone who barely listened to his compositions in the latter years of his life.I guess we will never know for sure exactly which were his pet songs.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 2, 2008 @ 12:09 pm | Reply

  1050. With the return of Gajanan ji and Krishnan ji, some of the old stalwarts have opted to return to this forum of OP fanns and devotees. This is truly fantastic as they will surely add to the quantum and quality of this delightful blog.

    It is also very interesting to read Tushar Bhatia’s exceedingly moving and touching comment #1024.Very articulate and straight from the heart. It is amazing to recognise the kind of emotions that OP Nayyar’s music, memories and mention evoke. For sure, OP Nayyar will be remembered by each of us for our own special and personal reasons.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — February 2, 2008 @ 3:12 pm | Reply

  1051. Kaveetaa ji please ask Tushar to share more often and also with pictures if possible.It will reach a wide audience which is what we want. Although this post has accumulated an enviable viewership, I notice that it is only about 10% of the total traffic on your blog. Great going.I enjoy your other posts as well and have just left a comment on the latest.

    Purinder ji,if you are referring to me when you say ‘stalwart’ I am humbled. Indeed I am not. I have not ‘opted’ to come back simply because I had never gone away. Most readers here never really go away they may just be too lazy to comment. Which explains why the number of views are more than the comments. Although I would plead guilty yet implore all to share often.

    Regards

    Comment by Jatin Lall — February 2, 2008 @ 11:52 pm | Reply

  1052. You are kind Jatin ji. Yes my blog is doing okay traffic wise. Basically I dont concern myself too much with all of that or it can lead to obsession and perhaps de track one’s fundamental intention. For me its important to write against injustice or pro someone who deserves to be lauded. In other words whatever gets my inner fires raged or heart ablaze with adulation/love/respect.I dont mince my words to denounce nor arrest words of praise whichever maybe the case. Veracity of thought and word is my principle as reflected in ‘Sachiniti’..although it was triggered by a combination of the names of my children and which incidentally also conveyed the guiding strain of my blog.

    Your analysis of online mentality of reading more than commenting is on the dot. This phenomenon is ubiquitous around the blogosphere as a whole and we bloggers accept it as a part and parcel of our blogging life. The idea is to communicate. We are responsible for our actions and cannot/should not expect to control reactions as in no comments, good comments, bad comments,whatever. This dictum keeps us happy and enthused 🙂

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 3, 2008 @ 7:21 am | Reply

  1053. Hello everybody, I am just sharing this with all OPji fans. Good news from Andhra Pradesh Govt.

    Department of Culture: Presentation of O.P. Nayyar music award to Dr P. Suseela, T. Subbarami Reddy, Union Minister of State for Mines, presents the award, Finance Minister, K. Rosaiah, chief guest, L[January 28, 2008 – January 28, 2008]

    I have seen the programme in GEMINI TV on 1st Feb 08.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — February 3, 2008 @ 9:11 am | Reply

  1054. Kaveetaa ji you are a very spirited person which is so inspiring. Most blogs are like personal diaries which I hurriedly leave unread.

    Murthy ji..thank you for the information. So on his death anniversary even in far away ( bollywood wise) Andhra pradesh O P N is remembered.

    Comment by Krishnan — February 3, 2008 @ 12:29 pm | Reply

  1055. Please go to the below site to read OPN quiz.

    http://www.screenindia.com/fullstory.php?content_id=18785

    regards

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry,AP

    Comment by G N Murty — February 3, 2008 @ 2:48 pm | Reply

  1056. G N Murty ji,

    Thanks for sharing the news in respect to O.P. Nayyar Music award instituted by the Govt. of A.P. Although, O.P. ji gave music to only one Telugu film “Neerajanam”, he is no stranger to Andhras. Of course, Neerajanam songs were a roaring success.

    O.P. ji’s Hindi compositions are very popular among the Telugu speaking folks. As a matter of fact, there is one dining restaurant in Vishakapatnam (Vizag) that only plays O.P. songs.

    Being a Telugu speaking person hailing from Andhra, I am delighted to hear that the Govt. of A.P. has not forgotten O.P. and has found a way to keep his name alive and recognize his contributions. Long Live O.P.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — February 3, 2008 @ 10:58 pm | Reply

  1057. Apologies , Kavitajee. I could not take part in the session. I am forever , on the road, bus, train singing , OPN’s songs, not loud , but humming it. Happy to know that AP govt has instituted an award on his name. I gather from my Tamil friends that P. Susheelaji was a great singer, who hailed from Andhra. In fact , one of my Tamil friend adores P. Susheela so much, that he always shows me one song on the U tube sung by her in Tamil. Even though , the language I could not understand , but the tune has grown on me. It is ” Unnnnai Oooonro Keetpen from the Tamil film “The New Bird” . ( I cannot get the Tamil word) , but I know the English meaning of the film’s title ( The New Bird).

    I do not know, why Mumbai did not respond , where OPN lived and gave all his life to music. Kudos to AP govt on this. For one film and its great music they have shown much gratitude by naming an award after OPN.

    Mumbaikar Kai jala thula?

    Mumbaikar , thula kai jala.
    OPN la kashala , thu , Visarla.

    Mumbaikar, Asha aahe Nir-Aasha
    Paan , thu kashala , Beena Aaasha.

    Mumbaikar Asha , Nir-aasha, kai thari , thumchi basha.

    Pudchya Varshi Karaichi , OPNji la
    Mangal Mai , sampoorna, sangeetmai basha

    Comment by gajanan — February 4, 2008 @ 6:00 am | Reply

  1058. Dear Krishna baru ji,

    In past also AP Govt has always given importance to OPN ji, if I am correct during the period 1987 to 2007 OPji was felicitated by various senior Govt. officials, High court Judge, Ministers of AP Govt. CEO of Andhra Bank many times. Our OPji has been conferred with T Anjaiyya award, Ghantasala Award, Nandi Award(best Music director), RK Musician award, Bharat Sangeet Ratna (in 1996 by Governer of AP).

    I also take this opportunity to congratulate Mr Manohari Singh for getting Nayyar award this year.

    O P Nayyar is great.

    with regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — February 4, 2008 @ 9:54 am | Reply

  1059. Krishnan ji..thank you so much. I guess we each have to find our purpose, our personal groove and the beat to which we rock. Isnt it? Some even find it in exploring our personal spirituality and I totally agree if not follow suit.

    Murthy ji..that was a wonderful piece of information also added on so comprehensively by Krishna ji.

    gajanan ji.. good to see you back in form. Your in depth analysis of situations which most would miss out on completely is remarkable. Loved your “why Mumbai did not respond’ query and the impromptu as it were breaking into a rhyme.

    Mumbai kar kay jhala tula…is so so apt? Come to think of it… does Mumbai ever felicitate the dead? yahaan sirf chadhte suraj ko salam hai Gajanan ji..

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 4, 2008 @ 3:47 pm | Reply

  1060. Murthy saab, I was discussing with a Tamilian friend, a linguist by profession, about classical music. He told me that there is verse in Tamil by a famous poet, that Telugu is one of the most musical languages of India. This must be the reason AP honours musicians of all calibre, whethere they are dead or alive. So it is poetic justice that AP has honored OPN.

    Kaveetaji ” Chadta Suraj , Dheere, Dheere Dhal Jayega, Dhal Jayega, Dhal Jayega ” Yaad hai yeh famous song. One should not forget this logic.

    For OPN , here is modifed song

    Ek din mit jayega mati ke mol,jag mein reh jayege Nayyar ki Sangeet.
    Dooje Ke Hothon Ko Dekar Apne Geet
    Nayyar ki Nishani Chhod, Phir Duniya Se Dol
    Ek din mit jayega mati ke mol,jag mein reh jayege Nayyar ki Sangeet

    Comment by gajanan — February 5, 2008 @ 5:03 am | Reply

  1061. Kya baat hai gajananji. You are very correct. But OP was always special for telugu people. Even Curao ji told me once that there used to be O P Nayyar fans association in Andhra like NTR or Chiranjeevi associations. Many OPji songs were directly copied by telugu music composers, e.g.,

    1. Eai dil mushkil jeena yahan…CID
    2. Leke pehela pehela pyar…CID
    3. O mujhe dekhkar aap ka muskurana…Ek musafir
    4. Yun to hamne laakh hasin…Tumsa nehin
    5. Saathi haat badhana..Naya daur
    6. Kajra Mohabbat wala…Kismet
    7. Naajni bada rangi hai…Phir wohi dil
    8. Ankhose utri hai dil mein..Phir wohi

    and many many more.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — February 5, 2008 @ 8:24 am | Reply

  1062. Kaveetaji , Yeh Lakme /Revlon ka controversy ke baare me. No 17 posting

    https://sachiniti.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/lakme-revlon-deny-female-staff-marriage-symbols/#comments

    Comment by gajanan — February 5, 2008 @ 10:49 am | Reply

  1063. Thanks for bringing it to my notice Gajanan ji and a thousand apologies for having missed it…have responded on that thread.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 5, 2008 @ 1:53 pm | Reply

  1064. Dear All,

    Please go through this site.

    http://www.psusheela.org/events/opnayyar_award.html

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — February 8, 2008 @ 10:25 pm | Reply

  1065. Kaveetaa ji,many among us had concurred on the concept of a commemorative CD to remember OP saab on the 1st anniversary of his passing away.

    You and many others did an enormous amount of reminding,pushing,coordinating and eventually inspiring many to present their choices.This brought the ‘exercise’ almost to its fruition – only the eventual ‘closure’ in the form of creating the CD and sharing it privately among friends remains unfulfilled. Any suggestions on how to proceed further?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — February 9, 2008 @ 8:18 pm | Reply

  1066. Many of the ‘regulars’ who participate in viewing or writing on this blog might remember Siraj Khan’s comment # 923 about the plight of Mubarak Begum.Apart from reminding people of the stark reality of show business, it has apparently done some good for begumsahiba. Since its appearance on 12th Jan 2008, there has been a heightened interest in this forgotten gem from the past and I believe that some initiatives by well-wishers ,to help her are afoot.

    As an example, tonight she is being felicitated in Pune, I believe along with some other luminaries such as Ghulam Ali and Abida Parveen. This recognition is the result of personal interest taken by worthy individuals from the Mumbai film industry.

    In case a need is felt to make a concerted effort to do more for her, I am hoping that this forum can provide us the much-needed, visible, platform. Kaveetaa ji, will it be acceptable to you ?

    A show in Baroda is slated for next week f

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — February 9, 2008 @ 8:38 pm | Reply

  1067. Comment # 1066, the last line may please be ignored.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — February 9, 2008 @ 8:41 pm | Reply

  1068. Purinder ji..Long time.

    As for the cd’s if you read through # 1021 I had offered to send the songs on mail to whoever was interested since uploading them here was not possible. I thought I would be bombarded with requests. Perhaps my message did not get through. I will promptly mail you the songs. You will have to install Pando the link for which is provided. It is a simple download. the songs will then be on your computer and can be easily copied on to a cd. So each one of us can have our own cds of our commemorative top 25. If faced with any problem please do not hesitate and let me know.

    On Mubarak ji without any hesitation please go ahead. How can there ever be even a whiff of an impediment or the question of it not being acceptable to me. It will be a privilege and honor. Sachiniti is only what you will make it into Purinder ji. I have never looked upon it as only a personal effort. It is very comforting to see Mubarak ji in the spotlight once again.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 10, 2008 @ 12:04 am | Reply

  1069. A rare treat…………….

    I once commented to OP NAYYAR that his Meri Neendon Mein Tum (Naya Andaz) must be one of the most romantic duets ever. To which he said that he thought that Ye Raat Bheegi Bheegi (Chori Chori) was tops in that category of duets. Knowing his sentiments about Lata, that did come as a surprise to me and said so. He laughed it off.

    Now get on to YouTube and tag Ye Raat Bheegi Bheegi or Geeta Dutt. Why Geeta Dutt? Thats because the original duet was recorded in her/Rafi’s voice. In the final critique, it did not suit Nargis’s voice and was re-recorded – the Lata/Rafi version with much better orchestration, which have always heard and loved.

    A rare treat. Somebody managed to get hold of it. YouTube is fab!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — February 12, 2008 @ 1:50 am | Reply

  1070. Murty garu,
    I am seeing you on board after a long time. Welcome. I tried to call u many times, without success. Now re: your post in #1061. There are 2 more songs adapted into telugu films, which I recall.
    1. Babuji dhire chalna-Telugu film “Vadina”. song “rangeli rani nene”, I think picturized on Savithri(I could be wrong about Savithri”). The stars were ANR and Savithri
    2.Oh tere dhire nazarka balam from Bhagam bhag adapted to a song(I forgot the words-so long a time ago- I did not come across this song after those days)in “Varudu Kavaali”. A Bhanumati production, tremendously hilarious comedy, the song picturized on Jaggayya and Prameela. The same Prameela changed her name to Devika and acted in many films. The film was of course an utter flop. Strangely, this film in Telugu and the Hindi film Albeli, produced by Pradeep kumar, also a big flop, were adaptations of an immensely successful Hollywood movie “Fabulous Senorita”.
    More knowledgeable people like Siraj ji might recall this and correct me if I am wrong.

    Comment by curao — February 12, 2008 @ 5:06 pm | Reply

  1071. Siraj ji,
    I also was surprised at seeing “Yeh raat bheegi bheegi” by Rafi-Geetha in youtube. I did not know that It was first given to Geetha. Then, it is also surprising that Shankar_Jaikishan took Geetha for such an important song, as they were well known for not taking Geetha.
    But Siraj ji, The final version was by Mannadey-Lata and not Rafi/Lata. Is it not?
    OP “laughed it off”, you said. did you mean that he had in mind the Geetha version when he praised the song? But undoubtedly one of the best duets of all time, though I personally prefer “AAja sanam madhur chandini” from the same film.

    Comment by curao — February 12, 2008 @ 7:20 pm | Reply

  1072. Namaste Curaoji,

    I was out of station for some time hence could not contact you. But we will meet soon.

    with regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — February 12, 2008 @ 9:58 pm | Reply

  1073. The song yeh raat bheegi bheegi and panchhi banu udati phirun…are version songs recorded on “Twin” label records. It is a 78 rpm record
    released by the company in 1956. The orchestra was very less and it is not a case that these songs were sung under the baton of Shankar Jaikishan. The male singer with Geeta Dutt in
    the song yeh raat bheegi bheegi is Bhushan and
    not Mohd Rafi.

    Comment by mahesh — February 13, 2008 @ 12:01 am | Reply

  1074. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Chori+Chori+&hl=en&sitesearch=

    Here you go, enjoy.
    About replacing singers , it happened and it still happens.
    Parvarish song MDey & Lata

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Parvarish+&hl=en

    Type OP Nayyar songs in Google Video , you will get a supermarket of songs. Plenty and some very good ones too.

    I was wondering how OPN’s songs made heroes out of Biswajit, Joy Mukerjee. Wonder pe thunder songs.

    Comment by gajanan — February 13, 2008 @ 6:31 am | Reply

  1075. Kaveetaaji,
    Re: yr post #1068. I attribute the lack of requests to the fact that most of those songs we selected are already with most of our friends here. I even offered to send recorded CDs with those 25 and plus others too.Very few showed interest.
    Purinderji,
    If you dont have those songs on yr PC, you can download as Kaveetaaji suggested, from Pando. Or, if you want I can send the CD to you.
    I have a plan in mind, which I enunciated earlier. since, 25 songs in mp3 occupy very little space on a CD, I shall include as amny as possible from all lists posted here, under 2 albums. The first one will named “Top 25 of O.P.Nayyar” and the 2nd album will be named as “Timeless greats” The CD itself will be named “Best of O.P.Nayyar” and will be marked “for private circulation only”, not to infringe on copy rights. All the names i mentioned above are open to change as per any suggestions the boarders may offer.
    If there is response to this offer I will undertake the job and post the CDs to who ever is interested.

    Comment by curao — February 13, 2008 @ 7:19 pm | Reply

  1076. Dear Rohan Pusalkarji,

    Hope Feb 1, 2008 program on OPji went on well at Pune. Can you share the CD of the said programme ? My email id is “gunm@rediffmail.com”. If it is possible please contact me.

    Thank you Rohan ji,

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — February 14, 2008 @ 11:15 am | Reply

  1077. CU Rao ji – Thank you for your comments. I did try to download the songs using Pando, but could not. Although an engineer by profession , must confess to possessing a certain degree of ignorance and diffidence when it comes to trying to make a computer ‘talk’.I therefore, most gratefully & willingly accept your kind offer. In return, I will be more than happy to inflict some of my collection on you. As I still owe you some songs, perhaps, you should consider sending me your complete ‘wish-list’ – so that I can send you at least some of the songs of your choice.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — February 14, 2008 @ 3:17 pm | Reply

  1078. OK, Purinderji,
    I will happy to send you the CD soon, preapred as I out lined in my post. I will do so during the weekend and try and post it to you on Monday. I think I did already sent you my wish list. But I will do so again anyway.
    I saw the Dil aur mohobbat sent by you. Haath aaya hai is mindblowing. But also “Kahase layi ho jane man yeh” by Mahendra kapoor is also tops, with small bits by Asha. I did not know this song before

    Comment by curao — February 14, 2008 @ 6:10 pm | Reply

  1079. Friends,
    On this Valentine’s day, when all the youngsters are celebrating, it is appropriate for us also to recall some of the great love songs of yesteryears. Though I am nearly 2 generations older than the present young generation, my heart strings can be as tightly pulled as in my youth, by those enchanting, rejuvenating, goldies of old.
    I will give pride of place as the topmost song to:

    Mohobbatki dhun bekarar by Talat-Sudha-Jagjitkaur(I hope I am right about the singers) from Dil-E-Nadan-Ghulam mohd. This particular song takes me to heavenly raptures.
    The other greats, as I spontaneously recall, though not exactly in the prder of merit:
    Pyar hua yeh karar hua-Shree 420
    3.Yeh raat yeh chandini-Jaal
    4.Meri neendon me tum-Naya andaz
    5.Mushkurati huyi chandini-Hemant/Lata-Albeli-Hemant kumar
    6.Tumhe yaad hoga-Hemant/Lata-satta bazar-
    7. Tu mera chand mai tera chandini-Shyam/Suraiya-Dillagi-Naushad
    8. Bahut shukriya badi meherbaani-rafi/Asha-Ek musafir
    9.Tum aur hum durse hum-Hemant/Geetha-Fashion-Hemant kumar
    10. aaja sanam madhur chandini-Chori chori
    11. Nazaaronse poochon-Mukhesh/Lata-i dont know the film and its MD
    12.dil tadap tadap-Madhumati
    13.Chandsa mukhda-Rafi/Lata-Kalapani
    14. Khoob surat sathi-Akalmand
    15. Udhar tum haseen ho-Rafi/Geetha-Mr. and Mrs. 55
    16.Oh yaad aane lagi-Rafi/Lata-Daman-K.dutta
    17. Kaise baje dil-Rafi/Shamshad-Chandini raat-Naushad
    18.Tehriye hosh men aaun-Rafi/Suman kalyan-mohobbat isko kehte hain-khayya
    19. seeneme sulagte hai-Talat/Lata-Tarana-Anil biswa
    20. Meri yaad me tumna aansoobahana-Talat-Madhosh-madan mohan
    21.Aasmaan wale teri-Talat/Lata-Laila majnu-Ghulam mohd.
    22.Aai gham e dil kya karoon-Talat-Thokar-sardar maillik
    23. Kya kuch aur bhi dhadaka bhi-Talat/Asha-Lala rukh-Khaiyyam
    24.Ai saba unse kehjara-Talat/Lata-Alibaba 40 chor-Chitragupta
    25Dilme samagaye sajan-Talat/Lata-Sangdil-Sajjad hussain

    Well, these are only a few of nearly 200 such haunting melodies i could collect. I might have intentionally given preference to duets. I also have left out some faster paced songs, though equally lovable in their own way. Still i had to leave Khayalonme kisike from Baware nain, Bade armaan ke rasta from Malhar. and others. but, I decided to limit myself to 25. My intention in posting these is just to recall that golden era when composers of all genres really poured their hearts out. I cant find enough superaltives words in English to describe the sweetness and heavenly bliss these songs possess.

    Comment by curao — February 14, 2008 @ 8:37 pm | Reply

  1080. Happy valentines day friends…heres hoping all are with their Valentines and enjoying this ‘imposed culture’ in the spirit it inherently suggests.

    Curao ji.. that was so awfully sweet and thoughtful of you.. thanks for the wonderful list..

    bahut shukriya badi meherbani 🙂

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 14, 2008 @ 8:51 pm | Reply

  1081. Pahela dhol and then the harmonium coming in
    Khuda jane aaisa , Rafi , OPN they trasnport you to another world. I think it is the harmonium being used. The harmonium is truly a mystical instrument. In fact even now with the cacophony of gadgets , the harmonium stands supreme. Please correct me if I am wrong on the use of harmonium in this song.

    The feamle voice’s entry in the song is like this (Modified to suit circumstances).

    Mujeh Dar Hai Mujh Mein, Ghamand Aana Jaaye,
    Lagun Jhoomne Mein, Sannata Aa Na Jaaye,
    Sannata Aa Na Jaaye,
    Kahin Dil Na Mera, Yeh Sannata Sun Kar,
    Kahin Dil Na Mera, Yeh Sannata Sun Kar,
    Mai, Mai Bane Aur Sangeetkar ko Bhool Jaaye,

    Phir Angerizi me sahi hai gana . Please sing in chorous, with irony , paradox and satire.

    What is Shukriya…No meherbani
    What is Shukriya…No meherbani

    Comment by gajanan — February 15, 2008 @ 5:33 am | Reply

  1082. Gajanan ji..it is clear that as big and ardent a fan of O P Nayyar you are that much resentment you hold against Asha Bhonsle..Your ‘modified to suit circumstances’ is clearly an expression of your feelings.So i sing along with you in chorus.. What is shukriya..no meherbani…Asha deewani?

    Comment by Krishnan — February 15, 2008 @ 3:50 pm | Reply

  1083. #1079/11 curaoji, bahaaron se poochho, nazaaron se poochho, dil kyom deewana mera ho gaya….this song is a hemant kumar, lata duet from film fashion n the MD is hemant kumar…
    there is another ‘bahaaron se poochho mere pyaar…’ a mukesh, suman k. duet from ‘mera ghar mere bachche’ n the MD is sardar malik

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — February 16, 2008 @ 6:50 pm | Reply

  1084. Thank you Sharmaji,
    for your enlightening info. I meant Baharonse puchon from Fashion then. The Hemant-Lata duet. There are many gaps in my knowledge and memory. Sorry. I will not mind being corrected in my posts.
    One thing may be noticed by fans of such songs. The list will be dominated by male singers Hemant, and Talat and to some extent Mukhesh. I consideered Hemant kumar to be lucky to have got so many sweet songs, though he was not the best singer. But somehow his tone blended very well with many feamle singers’.
    Kaveetaji and others. The CD with OP’s top 25 including other greats of OP is ready. Those in India interested in this may send their postal address to me so I can send a copy of that.
    cumrao@yahoo.com is my email addr.

    Comment by curao — February 17, 2008 @ 12:07 pm | Reply

  1085. Trust Shishir ji to come up with flawless details..wonderful!

    Curao ji..thanks a ton for the offer, but like mentioned earlier I have them on cd as well.

    Hemant Kumar sung to some great compositions and in keeping with that era his voice was soft, mellifluous and evoked a sense of quiet romanticism much like the films made then..One misses it that kind of serene emotion and slow paced depiction ..which wasnt meant to get you unduly passionate violently or any other way..what a far way we have come since then. Today everything is about inciting reactions RDB style.

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 17, 2008 @ 4:18 pm | Reply

  1086. With apologies to the lyricist of UPkar song sung by Mukesh, original lyrics by Qamar Jalalbadi ( correct me if I am wrong on this) again an OPN lyricist. Music by Kalyanjibhai & Anandjibhai

    Diwaanon se ye mat poochho, deewani pe kyaa gujaree hain
    haa un ke dilon se ye poochho, shukriya kyo bhool gayi

    aauron ke geet gate rahate hai, aaur khud bhool gayi uski vidhaata ko
    ye ganewali kyaa jaane, meherbani kyaa hoti hain

    maalik ne banaayaa insaan ko, ek insaan doosre ko shaurath lekar deta hai
    wo upar baithhaa kyaa jaane, insaanon pe kyaa gujaree hain

    Comment by gajanan — February 18, 2008 @ 8:21 am | Reply

  1087. Dear Friends,

    Just received news that the great poet SUDARSHAN FAKIR is no more. He died from cancer of the throat. For those well versed with Jagjit Singhs music and albums, Fakirs name is like a fixture. Who can ever forget the ghazals which one daresay contributed insiduously to the momentous popularity of Jagjit Singh and lent his voice the words which reached ones soul to live there for eternity.

    His ghazals come flooding to mind. The most popular

    yeh daulat bhi le lo yeh shohrat bhi le leo bhale chheen lo mujhse meri jawaani
    magar mujhko lauta do bachpan ka saawan woh kaagaz ki kashti woh baarish ka paani.

    One would think there is hardly a soul who will not identify with this ghazal.

    There are unforgettable others like

    gham badhe aate hain qaatil ki nigaahon ki tarha
    tum chhupa lo muje aye dost gunahon ki tarha

    Immensely poetic.Who could have imagined a ‘chhupana’ like ‘gunaah’..

    or

    saamne hai jo usse log bura kehte hain
    jisko dekha hi nahin ussko khuda kehte hain

    Every phase of my life is strung with moments when Jagjit singhs ghazals and by default Fakirs words have echoed, resonated within me. A poet never dies…his words live on generation after another.

    I am rather emotionally vulnerable at this moment. The demise of a poet almost always reminds me of the loss of my father. There was nothing more rivetting than to enjoy an evening with Papa listening to ghazals, looking at him head bent in concentration, enjoying every word, with a faint smile playing on his lips when a ‘shair’ reached a zenith of poetic imagination and brought out a ‘wah’ which was so heartfelt it made you sit up and want to hear it all over again. I think a human being is as if cursed with emotional attrition if not sensitised to poetry. I have my father to thank for opening my heart and soul to the nuances of sentiments that pour out oF another heart to reach us through words..the channel which crosses all barriers , the frontier without limits… the final SHABAD

    Sudarshan fakir ji you will live forever . Your heart bled not in vain.. a poets every breath is as if only to gain experience to fill the reservoir of his lexicon which will echo amidst us as long as we live.

    as Sudarshan ji has said

    zindagi tujhko jiya hai koi afsos nahin
    zeher khud maine piya hai koi afsos nahin….

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — February 20, 2008 @ 11:14 pm | Reply

  1088. yeh daulat bhi le lo yeh shohrat bhi le leo bhale chheen lo mujhse meri jawaani
    magar mujhko lauta do bachpan ka saawan woh kaagaz ki kashti woh baarish ka paani

    Great lyrics. In my visits abroad, I could see NRI’s singing this with tears in their eyes and some who were high could be seen hugging each other. In one instance in UK , an NRI after hearing the above lines , donated a large sum to a school in his birth place in Punjab. When you write , you must write like Sudarshan Fakir or like the great poets, so that you stir up comatose passions in human beings and make them think and do good work.

    Comment by gajanan — February 21, 2008 @ 6:59 am | Reply

  1089. Dear Friends,
    After searching for years, I finally got hold of the songs Kamar patli Nazar Bijli (Kahin Din Kahin Raat) and Mr. Cartoon MA – wonderful songs. I’ve uploaded them in Murty’s inbox in the rediff email account. For those interested in downloading, go to rediff.com and Login Murtyabcd with password abcd123.

    Comment by Hemant — February 22, 2008 @ 9:03 am | Reply

  1090. Thank you hemant ji.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — February 22, 2008 @ 4:50 pm | Reply

  1091. thnx a lot for providing such a beautiful songs hemantji…i’v burnt dil tere hawaale for u wch u might get by mid ov march…i’v got love n murder n others u sent…thnx again…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — February 23, 2008 @ 6:06 am | Reply

  1092. Dear Friends, I have uploaded a diffrent version of Mai mai mai kartoon, with Amin Sayani’s intro and 3 songs from Zid into Murtyjis site. interested people can download them.
    Murtyji, I have taken this liberty without actually telling u first

    Comment by curao — February 26, 2008 @ 7:15 pm | Reply

  1093. sir,

    You are always welcome.

    with regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — February 26, 2008 @ 9:27 pm | Reply

  1094. Curao

    I am standing in line for your The Best of OP CD. This is a yaadgaar product which may have come about by our joint compilation efforts, but the credit for the CD itself goes entirely to you.

    Please use the most convenient methodology of sending. I am based in the USA.

    Siraj

    Comment by Siraj Khan — March 3, 2008 @ 1:41 pm | Reply

  1095. Dear All

    Please help me some body I am looking for the song from Reshma aur Shera – Piya tum ho sagar, if somebody find it I would request it to be mailed on my id. karan_adhikari@yahoo.co.in

    Karan

    Comment by Karan Adhikari — March 4, 2008 @ 12:00 pm | Reply

  1096. Siraj ji,
    I would gladly send it but for this reason. If I send post, iam afraid it my be stolen/lost. I have actually made a few copies of the same. but surely, I will find a way of sending it to you.
    You may already have all those songs and more in your Library in some form or other. I, you and Kaveethaji did soem effort to collect the best songs into one CD. The credit goes to all and also to those who posted lists of top songs.
    I do have your postal address.

    Comment by curao — March 4, 2008 @ 7:07 pm | Reply

  1097. Siraji and other knowledgeable people here,
    I would like to know your opinions on these pairs of songs.
    1. Daralge dard badariya and Be dard preet nahin jani of Qaidi-pl. compare the antaras
    2. Jaan saketo jaan of Ustad by Rafi with the famous Oh duniyake rakhwale of Baiju bawra-Pl. compare the antaras
    3.Ankhonko mila yaar ke by Rafi and durrani in Bhagam bhag with the great qawali song in Mughal E Azam by samshad-Latha, Teri mehfilme kismat-pl. compare the mukhdas.
    I see strong similarities in what asked to be compared

    Comment by curao — March 4, 2008 @ 7:22 pm | Reply

  1098. I LIVE IN U.S.A. yOU CAN FIGHT FOR YOUR NO#. I AM A O.P.N.FAN. CAN SOMEBODY GIMMY A WEBSITE I CAN LISTEN ALL HIS SONGS FOR FREE> I WILL APPRECIATE! HE WAS A ” JADUGAR'” A “SUPERHUMAN” FOR THE MUSICWORLD.!

    Comment by jag — March 7, 2008 @ 2:01 am | Reply

  1099. @1098 IF SOMEBODY CAN SEND ME MP-3 OF ALL O. P. N. SOGS I WILL PAY .YOU HAVE MY WEB ADRESS!

    Comment by jag — March 7, 2008 @ 2:13 am | Reply

  1100. I LIVE IN U.S.A. yOU CAN FIGHT FOR YOUR NO#. I AM A O.P.N.FAN. CAN SOMEBODY GIMMY A WEBSITE I CAN LISTEN ALL HIS SONGS FOR FREE> I WILL APPRECIATE! HE WAS A ” JADUGAR'” A “SUPERHUMAN” FOR THE MUSICWORLD.! I LIVE IN RENO, NEVADA. YOU HAVE MY EMAIL AD.

    Comment by jag — March 7, 2008 @ 2:22 am | Reply

  1101. #1097

    Dear Curao

    I managed to listen (and compare)two of the three. I cannot claim to be very knowledgeable about the technicalities and raag raagni etc, but I really could not find any strong similarities with the antara or even with the asthai.

    With a raag based song, one can sometimes sense the connect between all songs composed on that raag. One composer who comes to my mind is Khayyam, where many if not most of his compositions are based on raag Pahari and one can feel that thread running in so many of his songs, which almost became his signature.

    OP’s signature, however, was his unique and unmistakable style and the beat.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — March 7, 2008 @ 6:46 pm | Reply

  1102. Siraj ji, I do agree with what you said about raag based songs. There are bound to be similarities in songs with same raag . fine. And, I do feel there are similarities here also, in what exactly the parts I requested to be compared.
    There are undoubtedly some more like that among various MDs.
    However, i do feel that the success(popularity or otherwise) of the former must have influenced the later to be composed at all. Also it is possible to be significantly different though based on the same raga. If it is not so, we would have ended up with but a limited no. of entirely different tunes, and many more similarly sounding tunes. But, i too am not an expert on these matters. So,there is no point in my further saying any. Perhaps I already said too much with my almost negligible knowledge.

    Comment by curao — March 8, 2008 @ 1:01 pm | Reply

  1103. […] Did you like this brief introduction? Find out about it in full detail here. […]

    Pingback by Actors, Movies, and Songs » O.P.Nayyar…Not forgotten Sachiniti — March 8, 2008 @ 10:47 pm | Reply

  1104. […] Salwar Kurta Jaali Ka” from this classic film.  This is another spectacular song by O. P. Nayyar  and lyricist Sahir Ludhianvi. The playback singers are Asha Bhosle and Shamshad Begum, who is […]

    Pingback by Video of the Day: “Reshmi Salwar Kurta Jaali Ka” from Naya Daur (1957) « Bollywood Food Club — March 10, 2008 @ 2:45 am | Reply

  1105. Mr. Subhash Kaul posted a comment on the post ‘O P Nayyar remembered’..I am reproducing it here. It is interesting.

    “Thanks Kavita for this great website. I have had a great opportunity of having been very close to the late maestro. In fact, he celebrated his last birthday in HYDERABAD, where I was present. He called me 2 days before his death. I still discuss about him with his brother Dr GP Nayyar, who is 90 year old and lives in Hyderabad. I feel all die-hard fans of OP should have an annual OP conference, where we can exchange our ideas about him and share his music

    Subhash Kaul”

    Comment by kaveetaakaul — March 10, 2008 @ 12:14 pm | Reply

  1106. “Shamshad became a national rage between the 1940s and mid-1960s rendering songs in her nasal voice, which helped her carve her independent–and till date unchallenged–niche in the world of music.” (wikipedia)
    The above is copied from the link in #1104. I entirely agree with that. Shamshad was just shamshad the great singer. How many mirthful and as well as soul stirring songs she sang for us!!!

    Comment by curao — March 12, 2008 @ 7:24 pm | Reply

  1107. On #1106

    Shamshad Begum is alive and lives quietly in Mumbai with her daughter. Its nice to talk about her soul stirring songs but does she know about all this. She probably thinks that she has dropped from the radar of most people and that people hardly remember her. Can those living in Mumbai please mobilize to meet her and let her know how much we (specially the OP Nayyar fans)cherish the happiness that she has brought to our lives and our spirit.

    Thanks

    Comment by Siraj Khan — March 13, 2008 @ 3:19 am | Reply

  1108. # 1105

    The suggestion by Mr Subhash Kaul of having an annual OP Nayyar conference is great, where we can remember the musical genius and his timeless music. We can have a different host city each year. Lets think about it more and bounce our thoughts on this concept.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — March 13, 2008 @ 3:25 am | Reply

  1109. #1107
    shamshadji was mistakenly reported dead by media on 10.08.1998…the lady who died was also shamshad begum but not the singer we know…in fact it was naseem’s mother & saira bano’s grand mother who died…just type shishir sharma columnist in google search n see the result please…i’m fortunate to trace out the singer SB…she lives in powai with her daughter & son in law & will complete 90 on coming 14th april…i hv many of her latest pix in my collection n cn mail if someone wants…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — March 13, 2008 @ 1:37 pm | Reply

  1110. Some of you might recall that Siraj’s provocative posting # 923 dated 12th Jan 2008 about Mubarak Begum galvanised many into action. First there was a show in Pune followed by a similar event in Baroda. In Delhitoo, the plight of Mubarak Begum caught the attention of many music lovers. The result is the benefit event for Mubarak Begum in New Delhi [ called Hamari Yaad Ayegi]slated for 13th April 2008. Ms Salma Sultan, the well-known TV hostess has agreed to design and compere the show and Ms Shikha Biswas Vohra, daughter of the legendary music director has agreed to be the music director for that evening.This event promises to accomplish a lot more that what was earlier percieved.

    I mention this only to demonstrate what a spark from Siraj [ who is now officialy dubbed as Khuda ka Farishta by Mubarak Begum sahiba] can do. Perhaps, Siraj or Shishir ji should show the way forward with respect to Shamsad Begum sahiba.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — March 13, 2008 @ 5:41 pm | Reply

  1111. Ms Shikha Biswas Vohra, as some of you might have guessed, is the daughter of legendary music director, late Shri Anil Biswas.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — March 13, 2008 @ 5:43 pm | Reply

  1112. #1110
    shamshadji is living happily with her daughter n SIL in one of mumbai’s posh areas…she doesn’t like to meet outsiders, may be due to old age n her shy nature…financially she is well off n doesn’t need any help…so i don’t think we can do much in this matter…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — March 13, 2008 @ 10:06 pm | Reply

  1113. Shishir ji, thank you for the inputs. Good to know that she is happy in the winter of her life. Perhaps we can pray for her long life, relish her wonderful songs and in our hearts thank her for the pleasure that her voice has given us.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — March 14, 2008 @ 1:55 pm | Reply

  1114. More on Shamshad Begum

    Not everybody needs financial help fortunately and Shamshad Begum is one of them. She may be publicity shy but we can still think of some way to honour her on her 90th birthday. Her contribution to Bollywood is immense and her relationship with OP Nayyar was rather special. She sang about 40 songs for the maestro in 23 out of the 73 films of his career. OP and SB used to speak often on the telephone.

    So Shishir, I am not closing the file on this matter. Not yet, anyway. I will try and approach her to test the waters. Wish me luck, folks!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — March 16, 2008 @ 7:43 am | Reply

  1115. Siraj ji,
    On your post #1107. your question on how many remember her. I am one of those ardent fans of Shamshad right from the time of Anmol Ghadi and Patanga.
    Her great songs for our maestro were all cherished by me fondly. Kabhi aar kabhi paar, Jara pyar karle, Booz mera kya, leke pehla, Kahipenigahe, and quite a no . of songs as duets with Asha in that memorable punjabi-bhangra type songs like Reshmi salwar are my perennial favorites. If one goes through my posts in Sachniti, one can see that I lauded her contribution to Hidi music in general and OPN in particular.
    I would like to mention another exhillerating song from musafirkhana “Thodasa dil lagake de” with Rafi. We jumped with unbridled excitement when we first heard that song in the theatre. And OPN himself was mentioned as saying that her voice was the best among all the female singers. no more need be said about her prowess after that.
    Iam however surprised that she is 90 now. It menas she was in her 40s when she sang all those thrilling songs!!!

    Comment by curao — March 16, 2008 @ 1:00 pm | Reply

  1116. http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Feb152008/metro2008021452289.asp

    Dear All,

    Please read this.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — March 16, 2008 @ 4:17 pm | Reply

  1117. # 1114
    my best wishes are always with you siraj saheb…her daughter ushaji helped me a lot when i asked to personally meet n interview her n so she can now…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — March 16, 2008 @ 10:03 pm | Reply

  1118. # 1115
    curao saheb, shamshadji first sang in pancholi’s ‘khazanchi’ (1941) in lahore…she came to mumbai in 1943 for mehboob’s taqdeer (nargis’s first film as heroine)…she was in her 30’s when she sang most of nayyar songs in 50’s…her last recorded song was ‘kajra mohabbat waala’ (kismet/1968) at the age of 50 n then she left film world…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — March 16, 2008 @ 10:10 pm | Reply

  1119. Thank u for the very very informative post above Shishir.
    Im really glad that her last recorded was that greeat Kajra mohobbat wala. What wonderful musical tune and how wnderful rendering . At the age of 50?
    Murty garu, thank you for posting that link. im elated to read that piece. and also the fact kajra mohobbat was one of the favourites of the day. Really, the musical piece in the beginning was one of Nayyar’s best instrumental composition. All those songs were posted in you tube now under the caption “gaata rahe mera dil”

    Comment by curao — March 17, 2008 @ 9:35 pm | Reply

  1120. Hi All,

    I am sorry I stayed away from this blog for a month or so. Hope all of you are doing well. Although, you did not hear from me for a while, I have been faithfully listening to O.P.’s music every day.

    Recently, Hemant sent me songs of “Shrimanji” and VCD of the movie “Dil Aur MOhabat”. Thanks to you, Hemant. I am playing the songs of Shrimanji every day. My special thanks to Sishirji and Hemant for helping me find the song by Asha and Kamal Barot from this movie. It looks like the movie “Shrimanji” was a low budget movie with many silly scenes. What do you expect when you field Kishore and I S Johar in the same movie.

    C U Rao ji, thanks to you for sending me the songs “Thodasa Dil Laga Ke Dek”, a duet by Rafi and Shamsad Begum and the solo of Shamsad “Jar Pyar Karle Babu”. These compositions are just captivating – combination of OPji’s musical talent and Shamsad’s voice is unbeatable. You can listen to these songs again and again. My friends, you will never get tired… you want to listen them one more time. O.P. is very much alive and is communicating to us every day through his music.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 22, 2008 @ 7:34 am | Reply

  1121. Hi,

    The YOUTUBE has a video clip on O.P.’s 70th birthday. You can see O.P. ji smiling and cutting the cake. This is titled ” Ronkini SaRe GaMaPa Rollover Episode 3 Results – Girija Sitara”. Please view it. Thanks. Have a great weekend.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 22, 2008 @ 7:39 am | Reply

  1122. #1117 More on Shamshad Begum

    I have learnt that she is not receptive to publicity but looks forward to be honoured by fans who remember her and her timeless songs. We will celebrate her 90th birthday next year. (She was born in 1919). For now she wants us to pray for her health and happiness.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — March 25, 2008 @ 11:17 pm | Reply

  1123. Siraj Khan Ji,

    Thanks for taking initiative in contacting Shamshad Begum. I am sure you must have conversed with her on phone. If it’s okay with her, you can share with us her recollection of her experiences about Bollywood and her association with O.P.

    We will definitely pray for her health and happiness.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 26, 2008 @ 5:41 am | Reply

  1124. Dear Friends,
    Iam posting 4 somewhat rare songs of OPN along a few comments in murtyabcd@rediff.com
    access them with pass word murty123.
    i ll appreciate any comments on them.
    The more I delve into the world of OPN music , the more awesome some of his compositions appear. The more I wonder at the fact that he showered his creative talent so indiscriminatingly, on all sundry 3 rate films. Excepting a few like Naya Daur, CID, Tumsa nahin, His real big starrers did not get proportinately better songs. a pity really.

    Comment by curao — March 30, 2008 @ 12:40 pm | Reply

  1125. Rao sahib – there is perhaps another perspective to your view that OPN’s movies did not necessarily belong to the big banners or were of the highest calibre . The fact was that as long as the producers paid OP his fee [ and OP did not come cheap], OP gave off his best. Hence this dichotomy – great music but mediocre movies.

    Just a word about the email address murtyabcd. I think that the password is abcd123.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — March 31, 2008 @ 6:11 pm | Reply

  1126. Hello Friends

    Here is some recent (and somewhat informal)exchange of emails between some OP fans now being shared with a a wider readership, at the request of Krishna Baru. Hopefully, others will weigh in with their own views.

    SK

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    There is yet another facet of OPN which fascinates me. And it this aspect of him which made me feel strongly that he could compose even at 80 if he wanted.

    Cumrao mentioned Tujhe pyar kar loon ye jee chahta hai from Zid or take Dekho Dekho Tum Ho Gaya Mein Gum and Kisi Haseen Yaar ki Talaash hai (in the Pukarta chala hoon mein mould) from Nishchay in 1992, its easy to see that even after a huge gap of so many years in wilderness in between – the style, the flow, the orchestration, that whiff of fresh air was unmistakably OP. He must have been 65/66 when he did these films and of course, Neerajanam and Mangni.

    SK

    —–Original Message—–
    From: khansaheb2@aol.com
    To: purinder.ganju@gmail.com
    Cc: pralhad_avalaskar@yahoo.co.in; krbaru@hotmail.com; kavitaok@gmail.com; cumrao@yahoo.com
    Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:26 am
    Subject: Re: Nayyar’s Nuggets and other thoughts

    Yes, interesting. Chehre se in that way is a novelty!

    I guess, I mentioned that Aqalmand/Kishore duet in the same breath becuase I listened to it right after Chehre se. I find the antara of the Aqalmand duet one of the most melodious of OPs. It comes very close to Aap Yun hi agar humse milte rahe.

    SK

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Purinder Ganju
    To: khansaheb2@aol.com
    Cc: pralhad_avalaskar@yahoo.co.in; krbaru@hotmail.com; kaveetaa kaul ; cumrao@yahoo.com
    Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 9:36 am
    Subject: Nayyar’s Nuggets and other thoughts

    Dear Siraj,

    I am honoured that you thought of copying me in on your message to Rao sahib and others. It is quite remarkable the way in which some of us gravitated towards each other , inspired by the common denominator – namely the maestro OP Nayyar.

    It was interesting to read your analysis of Mukesh with OP . First a comment – I feel that Rafi and OP were made for each other. Mukesh and OP – does not sound right. ‘Chehre se zara anchal’ is a lovely song ; but if Rafi or even Kishore were to have sung it ???

    Second: an observation. I think that male voice in “Khoobsoorat saathi” is Kishore. Mukesh and Asha did sing another duet “Yeh dil leke nazrana”. Here again , I got the feeling that Mukesh was stretched and was transgressing in an area where he was not really comfortable.

    Just my thoughts. Worth tuppence or maybe not even that.

    Cheers

    Purinder
    B-4/1, DLF-I,
    Gurgaon 122002, Haryana
    0124-236 4219
    —– Original Message —–
    From: khansaheb2@aol.com
    To: cumrao@yahoo.com
    Cc: pralhad_avalaskar@yahoo.co.in ; purinder.ganju@gmail.com ; krbaru@hotmail.com
    Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:22 PM
    Subject: Re: Nayyar’s Nuggets

    Dear Curao

    We have really created an OP family of sorts worldwide, with a common bond.

    No idea about the Zid artistes – either Jay Mehta and Rageshwari or Mohammad Aziz and Ranjana Joglekar. I guess they are around somewhere. I must do more research. I am copying this to my friend Pralhad Avalaskar, also closely associated with OP in his last years, as he is very knowledgeable, as is Purinder.

    People do not usually associate OPN with Mukesh. If at all they do, the link is somehow restricted usually to that unforgettable gem Chal Akela. I think Chehra se zara anchal from Ek Bar Muskura Do is absolutely awesome. I used to think often what OP must have factored in to select Mukesh for the male voice to go with Asha and once ventured to ask him. He replied that when he composed it no other voice came in his mind, not even Asha. The director was even more surprised but knew that it would fly, even though Mukesh’s voice wasnt really compatible with the actor’s. Another good one is that Khubsoorat Sathi from Aqalmand. Both are in the typical OP flow from the word go.

    Stay in touch!

    Siraj

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Rao Chalasani
    To: khansaheb2@aol.com
    Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 1:03 am
    Subject: Nayyar’s Nuggets

    Dear Khansaheb,
    you are most welcome. I dont deserve so much thanks. I just was able to find someone to take the CDs to USA and hand them over to my niece. who sent to you , Krishna ji and Hemantji.
    Iam really glad that you are enjoying those unforgettables. Also, like me and Krishna ji, you are also captivated by “Tujhe pyar karlu” of Zid. BTW, What happened to that heroine and hero? Rageswari and Jai? I find them both very handsome and adequate in histrionic talent in Zid. Never heard of them either before and after.
    Incidentally, I recemntly got from Purinderji, one of my most wanted songs. ” Be dard preet nahin jani” of Qaidi. All these decades, i had only memories that there was a superlative song in Qaidi. It is even bettetr than i ever imagined . I wouild have included in the top 25, if I had that song at the timeof our selection.
    I could not hear your podcast on Nayyar eventhough you alerted me. I do not even know how to get that channel.
    Regards,
    curao

    Comment by Siraj Khan — April 1, 2008 @ 6:53 am | Reply

  1127. Purinder Saheb and Friends,

    I agree with you that though O.P. scored music for some mediocre movies, his services were not cheap. At times I get the impression as long as O.P. was given a free hand and was paid what he was asking for, he went about his way and composed music for the movie without any reservations. One example is CID 909. O.P. himself admitted that he agreed to work on this movie although, the movie had no meat, story, or substance. It appears O.P. once told Guru Dutt “Please do not tell me how to give music and I wont tell you how to direct a movie”.

    As a matter of fact, O.P. was the first MD to charge one lakh rupees per movie. Some where on the internet I read that there were only two who had Cadillacs in Bombay for a while. O.P. was one of the two.

    Also, O.P. was quoted as saying that Shantaram approached him but they could not team up for a movie as Shantaram thought O.P.’s fees was prohibitively expensive. On the other hand, O.P. was quoted as saying that he would work for some friends for free. He fondly recollected his association with Mukherjees and said that any day he would work for them without any demands.

    I am sure Khan Saheb would cover some of these issues in the book he is working on.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 1, 2008 @ 9:07 am | Reply

  1128. CU Rao ji,

    I have thanked you and Murty ji in the past but let me thank both of you once again for putting the Zid songs on the YouTube. I play them once a day. However, it appears that not many YouTube visitors have developed a liking for these songs. I am hoping with the passage of time, these songs would gain popularity.

    Another gem you had mentioned in the past is a duet by MK and Asha from the movie “Kahin Din Kahi Raat”. The song goes on some thing like this “Tumhara Chahanewala”. This song is simply marvellous.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 1, 2008 @ 9:20 am | Reply

  1129. We have to hank you for your apreciation per se but for joining us to admire those great songs.
    Of course tumhara chahnewala khuda ki duniya mein is a divinely inspired composition. After all it looks like MK has sung many timeless tunes of Nayyar. Apart from the above, Kamar patli nazar bijli from the same film, Lakhon hai dilwale of Kismat, Andhere main jo baithe from Sambandh, Mera pyar woh hai, Haath aaya hai, Badi mushkilse from Humsaaya. The break with Rafi had proved a great boon for MK. At least to the extent that MK would not have got the chance to sing them. Whether Rafi would have done better justice to those songs is a moot point and the realms of speculation. My personal view is “yes definitely”.

    Comment by curao — April 1, 2008 @ 6:57 pm | Reply

  1130. Some stray thoughts at random on the correspondence above.
    I agree with the opinion that Khubsoorat sathi antaras are some of the sweetest of Nayyar. I often wonder why it did not become a great hit like Hal kaisa hai janaapka. Chehre se zara anchal was great but definitely not one of the bests of Nayyar or Mukhesh. But I do feel that Nayyar mellowed down the lilt of the song to suit Mukhesh voice.
    No doubt that without Rafi there was no Nayyar-quoting Nayyar himself. Rafi was Nayyar’s life line. Pity they did not reconcile and patch up. And let us not neglect to give Nayyar his due. Rafi had 2 great patrons. Nayyar and Naushad. He would have been no where but for them. with SDB specilizing on kishore and SJ with Mukhesh and Mannadey.
    While on Mukhesh-OP combination, Chal akela was aesome yes. But can we forget one of the greatest duets of all time “Jhuka jhukake nigahen” of Miss coca cola?. Greatest not only of Nayyar but in the entire universe of Hindi music? That is only my pesonal opinion. The instrumentals, the voices , the tune mingled and dowtailed so well that I dont think any other MD or even OPN himself could improve upon it.
    But , friends, Pl download the few great songs i posted in murtyji’s mail. I would love to hear comments on Be dard preet nahin jani. And truly Mera dul hua hai gum with Yahan hum wahan tum. My heart really flutters even now after all these years.
    I stand corrected on the password Murtyji’s pass word: it is abcd123.

    Comment by curao — April 1, 2008 @ 7:34 pm | Reply

  1131. Some comments on # 1130

    Popularity of a song and quality are two different things. You can see this within OP’s repertoire itself. Haal Kaisa Hai Janaab Ka is of course SDB, made popular only by the KK’s yodelling fans. SDB himself was quoted as saying when somebody referred to that song ” Aap ko mera koyee aur gana yaad nahee aya?”. It is my personal opinion that Asha/Kishore’s best combo is probably Ye Raatein Ye Mausam Nadee ka Kinara Ye Chanchal Hawa from Dilli Ka Thug (composer Ravi) – one duet which could come real close to OP’s own Meri Neendon Mein Tum of Naya Andaz (Kishore/Shamshad).

    Comment by Siraj Khan — April 2, 2008 @ 3:38 am | Reply

  1132. OP NAYYAR ALWAYS REMEMBER TILL MUSIC IS ALIVE IN THIS WORLD.

    Comment by sami Anwar — April 2, 2008 @ 1:53 pm | Reply

  1133. Paying tributes to O P Nayyar ji.

    Since 28th Jan 08 (first death anniversary of O P) to till date (65 days) our local channel (CCC) for the East Godavari Dist. showing only OPji’s films on my request. I have given my collection to them and as per their record the veiwership is around 50000 as on date and it is increasing day by day. People are demanding for repeat telecast of O P Ji’s films only for songs. Since I am having only 25~30 films of OPji we are repeating the telecast. If anyone can send me any rare films of Nayyar Saab then please send a VCD to my address mentioned below.

    G N Murty, AGM & Branch Head, IDBI Bank, KSR Plaza, Danavaipeta, Rajahmundry-533103, Andhra Pradesh

    Lot of OP fans from Rajahmundry, Kakinada and nearby places are appreciating our efforts. The film starts at 9.30pm (IST)daily. So far the following films have shown (some even 2 to 3 times).

    1. Kashmir Ki Kali
    2. Pran jaye per vachan na jaye
    3. CID
    4. Naya Daur
    5. Nashihat
    6. Neerajanam (Telugu)
    7. Yeh raat phir na ayegi
    8. Mr & Mrs 55
    9. Aar Paar
    10. Baharen phir bhi ayengi
    11. Hum Saya
    12. Mere Sanam
    13. Phir wohi dil laya hoon
    14. Ek Baar Musku rado
    15. Howrah Bridge
    16. Do Ustad
    17. Tum sa nehin dekha
    18. Nischaiy
    19. Jali Note
    20. Baap Re Baap
    21. Choo Mantar
    22. Mere Sanam
    23. CID 909
    24. Baaz
    25. Golden Collection O P Nayyar
    26. Naya Daur (Colour–songs only)

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 2, 2008 @ 5:17 pm | Reply

  1134. Murty Ji,

    It’s great news that O.P.fans in Rajahmundry, Kakinada and nearby places are enjoying the repeated screenings of the movies provided by you.

    I have video cassettes (PAL format) of Baap Rae Baap, Ek Musafir Ek Hasina, and Kismet. I can send them by Air Mail. However, you will have convert them to Indain format (NTSC) to play. Further, you may want to convert them to VCDs. Please let me know if you have facilities that can convert my tapes.

    O.P. has a large following in Andhra Pradesh. It will be nice if an O.P. Fan Club can be established in A.P. and seek participation from different towns and cities in A.P. to form local chapters or associations. This may sound like a wild idea.

    Please let me know if you can use my cassettes.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 2, 2008 @ 10:05 pm | Reply

  1135. Murty ji,

    Another couple of movies, I have are:

    Raagini (Video Cassette)

    Dil Aur Mohabat (Movie on a CD) Our friend, Hemant sent me this copy.

    Both of these movies have good music. Raagini music was a very big hit.

    I read your mail a second time and realized that you do have Baap Re Baap.

    Talk to you later.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 3, 2008 @ 5:26 am | Reply

  1136. Murty Ji,

    Another movie “Mujrim” (Shammi Kapoor and Ragini) CD available with CU Rao ji.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 3, 2008 @ 6:02 am | Reply

  1137. I am 57 year old person who likes old Hindi songs including O P Nayyer/ I have a collection of 8000 Hindi songs which I can give to anyone , I am in Mumbai

    Can anyone give me a site from where I can download rare OPN songs which have been discussed here?

    Comment by s k roy — April 3, 2008 @ 11:41 am | Reply

  1138. dear mr.roy, u can mail these songs on ‘murtyabcd@rediffmail.com’ / password ‘abcd123’…thnx to mr.g.n.murty who opened this e-mail account for all op fans…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — April 3, 2008 @ 11:04 pm | Reply

  1139. Dear Murty garu,
    It is very heartening to know that you are really making a great contribution to keep Nayyar’s name alive and kicking.
    I have the VCDs of Bhagam bhag, Mujrim, Kahi din kahi raat and 1 or 2 DVDs of exclusively OP songs(of course video songs).Pl. let me know how can I send them to yoou. Is it enough if I hand them over to the manager of IDBI bank in vijayawada as I did last time? I will call you sometime this evening. You said above that you already have CID 909 and Baaz. I have them too.

    Mr. Roy,
    Welcome to you amongst us. You say you have 8000 songs. I have only about 4000 songs! All old of course, before 1975. You must be having many rare songs then.
    It is not possible to really upload all the songs on the net. We go step by step. a few songs at a time I mean as per requests.
    Do you have songs of Cham chama cham, Farishta, Amar deep, Teerandaz, Alibaba 40 thieves(Mahipal-Shakila starrer), Begunah, Khidki, and a few others Iam searching for. Depending on your response, I will mention a few more.
    Then the songs you want. Tell me which OPN songs you want. I can post in murtyabcd site, if I have them.
    pl give me yr email addr.
    Mine is cumrao@yahoo.com

    Siraj ji, what you mentioned is true. My best Kishore-Asha is “Ankhon me kya ji” of Nau do gyarah. Actually there are many duets of theirs under SDB. Meri needon me tum is a close 2nd, as you said, for me also.

    Comment by curao — April 4, 2008 @ 9:52 am | Reply

  1140. my e mail ID sumitkroy51@gmail.com

    Comment by s k roy — April 4, 2008 @ 3:05 pm | Reply

  1141. Thank you Krishna Baru ji, Curao ji, Shishirji for your support. Rao sir

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 4, 2008 @ 4:29 pm | Reply

  1142. Thank you Krishna Baru ji, Curao ji, Shishirji for your support. Rao sir you can handover to our Manager, IDBI, Vijayawada.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 4, 2008 @ 4:30 pm | Reply

  1143. Thank you Curao ji, Krishna Baru ji and Shishirji for your support. Curao Sir, please handover the CDs to our Vijayawada manager.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — April 4, 2008 @ 4:33 pm | Reply

  1144. Murty Ji,

    I am glad to see you are surrounded by a large number of O.P. fans. May be in my next trip to India, I can meet some of them. Keep up the good work.

    Roy Saheb,

    Welcome to the blog. We are fans of the old Film music. We exchange views in addition to songs from our collection. Through e-mail, correspondence on this blog, and through phone conversations, we are trying to build rapport among ourselves and get to know one another. Please visit this blog and share your ideas and opinions as frequently as possible. Welcome again.

    Shishir Krishna Sharma Ji,

    Recently I found a couple of songs by Javid Raza “Tumsa Nahi Dekha” and “Kissi Na KIssi Se” on Youtube. This gentleman sang these songs very well. The group did a wonderful job in accompanying Raza. These remakes came very close to the originals in quality. Since you have considerable knowledge of filmdom, I am wondering if you can share any information on this gentleman, Javid Raza.

    Siraj Khan Sahab,

    Can you tell us more about your meeting on phone with Shamshad Begum. Just curious if she mentioned any thing about our music maestro O.P.

    CU Rao Ji,

    In my next trip, I would like to get my hands all songs from Kahi Din Kahi Raat. A few solos by MK are enjoyable though they were not heard on the Radio. A couple I have on the 78 RPM : Yaro Ki Tamana Hi… and Tumhari Yae Nakrae Tumhari Yae Shararat. O.P. did a wonderful job but they were not big hits as people in general are not excited at MK’s voice.

    I often wondered how MK’s song “Badal Jaye Agar Maali” from Baharen Phir Bhi Ayengi was a mega hit while Rafi’s “Aap Ke Hasin Par Aaj Naya ” was not received with the same degree of enthusiasm on Binaca Geet Mala. This proves the point all quality songs don’t have to be big hits on the Radio. Any comments?

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 4, 2008 @ 11:33 pm | Reply

  1145. I have all songs in I pod having songs occupying 62 GB and I can not transfer into my Computer disc as There is not that much space. By next week I will buy a detachable hard disc for songs and mail to whoever wants them

    Comment by s k roy — April 7, 2008 @ 10:42 am | Reply

  1146. @ Kaveeta Kaul

    I really feel surprised, how we missed OPN,s
    all time popular “Nazron Ke Teer Maare Kas Kas
    Kas” sung by Rafi & Asha from Do Ustad filmed
    on Raj Kapoor & ever beautiful Madhubala !!

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 7, 2008 @ 10:11 pm | Reply

  1147. Hi Mr. Anand Berry

    Welcome to the blog. It is always nice to hear from a new fan of O.P. I am in full agreement with you that the duet “Nazron Ke Teer” from Do Ustad is a wonderful song. This song is available on Youtube and I listen to it several times a week. There is another duet “Ruk Ruk Kahan Chali Diwani” from this movie which is equally captivating. This movie had some good musical numbers but for some reason, they did not become mega hits. It appears O.P. himself acknowledged his disappointment at the poor reception these songs received. Another point is that Rafi voice suited Raj Kapoor very well but the pundits would not accept this. I guess the public got brain washed that only Mukesh’s voice (and may be Manna Dey) goes with Raj Kapoor. What a pity.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 9, 2008 @ 7:14 am | Reply

  1148. Dear S K roy ji,
    Iam an avid collector of all good old songs. particularly O.P.Nayyar. You said you can mail the songs occupying 62GB!! Wont it be very expensive to send in external hard disc or the 62GB songs? Are the songs in 128 kbps or higher?
    curao

    Comment by curao — April 9, 2008 @ 8:03 pm | Reply

  1149. Dear All,

    I am producing here the saying of one O P Nayyar fan.

    “O—Outstanding

    P—Performance

    N—No match in music

    A—Always best tunes

    Y—Years and for years to come his music shall entertain

    Y—You and you and you—no music director of Hindi film ignore his contribution

    A—a class music he gave in every film

    R—really for ages there shall be no match for OP Nayyar”

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — April 10, 2008 @ 1:54 pm | Reply

  1150. Dear Friends,
    I am very happy today. For 2 reasons.
    1. I obtained the songs of many rare films: Khoonka badla khoon, Bade sarkar, Heera mothi, Rangeen raatein, Mangu, Johny waalker, Mai baap, Miss coca cola etc. Though i had 1 or 2 songs from some of those films, i never had all the songs. Iam still in the process of taging them.
    2. More importantly, I also obtained 2 CDS on ” In memory of O P Nayyar” with about 40 songs, many of them rare. In these, The whole biography was traced, personality, quality of music, and his associations were praised and criticized.
    Does any one know the exisence of these? OR, is it someone like Siraj from amongs us who gave back ground tributes?Many unknown facts in his life were mentioned. An example is the influence of chic chocolet on OP for certain type of songs, and that OP always esteemed him highly!! Many rare songs were also given. His early life and songs, sung by him (I think) in early 40s were mentioned.
    Iam particularly gratified that many of my opinions were vindicated at least by this person. example is the greatness of Mangu songs.
    Dear murty garu,
    Good tributes to OP above

    Comment by curao — April 10, 2008 @ 8:10 pm | Reply

  1151. Dear Krishna Baru ji,

    Thanks for the information.There is an another peice that I would like to share.In 1970’s it was an era of Laxmikant Pyarelal who ruled the hindi film music by charging Rs 5 lacs per film.At the same time when producers of “Nischay” approached OPN for the music of their film, he agreed if only they pay him Rs 5,00,001. Just ONE rupee more than Laxmi-Pyare to uphold his ego and prestige.

    This shows that OPN was an undefeated KING of music as well of our “hearts”.

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 11, 2008 @ 9:27 am | Reply

  1152. Hi Murty Ji,

    Thanks for sharing one fan’s interpretation of the alphabets in our favourite music director’s name. This is not only interesting but is pretty close to what I feel about O.P. ji.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 14, 2008 @ 4:07 am | Reply

  1153. Hi C U Rao ji,

    Glad to hear that you have added more songs of O.P. to your collection. It looks like you could become “One-Stop” resource for all of us who are in search of old and rare musical compositions of O.P. especially, those from the movies ” Johnny Walker”, “Mangu” and “Mr. and Mrs. Coca Cola” and “Qaidi”. Talk to you later.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 14, 2008 @ 4:13 am | Reply

  1154. Hi Anand ji,

    Very interesting to know that O.P. charged Five Lakhs and One rupees for the movie “Nischay”. It appears O.P. was a person who believed in himself and always wanted to be a step above the “Run of the Mill” types. He was certainly the King of his times who insisted on playing by his own rules although, the majority gravitated towards SJ, LP, and later RD. Though I would not want put down the accomplishments of other MDs, I live to enjoy O.P.’s compositions. O.P. is my number one. Another special MD who has delighted us with his melodious musical scores is S D Burman. SD had immense talent and he rationed his availability and kept his uniqueness.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 14, 2008 @ 4:28 am | Reply

  1155. You are rt Krishna garu,
    Despite everything, despite the fact that SDB, SJ, CR, and Naushad were immensely talented, OP remains my favorite MD for the rest of my life. I could not find that vim and vigor, that ‘joi de vivre” , that liveliness, that exhilaration in nay one else’s music except OP’s music. Yes, there were such songs composed by others too but not to the extent of OP There were many soulful sad and melodious songs too just to show his versatility whenever required.
    That program “IN memory of O.P.Nayyar”, I mentined above throughs lots of insights into the nature and excellence of his creations. Unlike other reviews on his life, it does not go into the aspects of his personal life and complicated relationships. Just his music, his singers, his instrumentalists, his influence on others and Hindi film music in general, his lyricists: these were the things that were highlighted with the relevent songs.
    Though some of the info is completely new to me, a person like siraj ji, who is writing a book on him would have useful info I am sure.
    After getting almost all his good songs, I came to the undeniable and regrettable conclusion. Just as he was enemy of himself, OP repeated himself quite a no. of times.

    Comment by curao — April 14, 2008 @ 6:20 pm | Reply

  1156. curaoji

    let me see how can I send the song. Let me hv your E Mail id. mine is sumitkroy51@gmail.com.

    Please refer comment no 81. Sharmaji can I hv yr E Mail id? Anyone has it?

    Comment by s k roy — April 15, 2008 @ 1:11 pm | Reply

  1157. Sumitji,
    I replied to yr email to me. You must have got my email addr as well as my phone nos.
    however, Im giving it agn here:
    cumrao@yahoo.com

    Comment by curao — April 16, 2008 @ 6:29 pm | Reply

  1158. Dear Friends,

    I don’t see much activity on this blog. Looks like many of you are on vacation.

    Thanks to our friend, Siraj Khan saheb I get to find out what is happening in the city of Boston. It seems Asha Bhonsle held a concert titled “75 Years of Asha B – A Musical Journey” in Boston on April 13th. Kishore Kumar’s son, Amit accompanied her. Overall, the event appears to have gone well and the audience enjoyed the show.

    The writer of the review made a special reference to O.P. Nayyar. The writer noted that it was a pity that Asha chose to sing only two songs composed by the great MD O.P. (1. Chain Se Hum Ko Kabhi and 2. Babuji Dheere Chalna) though, OP and Asha combine produced some of the most unforgettable and brilliant Hindi film songs of the 20th century.

    Just want to share this news with all of you. Have a great weekend.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 19, 2008 @ 3:20 pm | Reply

  1159. Reprucing a recent exchange…..

    Dear Ajay

    Thank you for your kind words. These lines of dedication were written spontaneously by lyricist Shamsul Huda Bihari for OP when OP was at his prime, perhaps 40 years ago.

    I wonder how much you know about OP as a poet. I know of at least 20 songs (there could be more) which OP has created and plugged in the lines in the songs and let the lyricist of course get the full credit.

    Here is the real story. There is a random Asha/MK duet in Kismat called 1-2-3 Baby Ya Ya Ya. SH Bihari had been working on it for a week and they were not getting anywhere. Director Manmohan Desai was getting restless as all other songs had already been recorded and sent an SOS to OP that the next day was the last day. No further extension.

    Noor Dewasi (who wrote Aao Huzoor Tumko sitaron mein) in the same film was asked to jump in to help in the crisis. OP locked himself up in his room and at about 2 a.m. in the morning calls up SHB after coming up with these lines

    Zara cherr do aisa naghma koyee
    Ke saree fiza gungunanay lage

    Wo dil jo ke ulfat se anjaan hai
    Wafa ke taranay sunanay lage

    SHB was zapped, could not sleep the rest of the night and the next day comes to the recording room with these lines written in Urdu on the back of a used envelope, a dedication for OP not just for bailing him out from a rather awkward situation, but for coming up with some absolutely incredible lines, even if it was just for a situational song. The song was already recorded by the time Manmohan Desai walked into the studios the next day. (Its on Youtube so go for it). My wife Yasmin actually thinks that the song is pretty cool and is at par with the other 4 Kismat songs.

    * Aao Huzoor Tumko
    * Ankhon mein qayamat ke kajal
    * Lakon hein yahan dil wale – and of course
    * Kajra mohabbat wala

    The catchword, my friend, is tarana (taranay in plural) which connects OP’s dedicated lines and the song lyrics. So here we go once again…….

    Teri zindagi mohabbat
    tera nam hai deewana
    tere baad bhi karega
    tera zikr yeh zamana
    tu wo zindagi nahin hai
    jise maut khatm karde
    jise bhool jaye duniya
    tu nahin hai woh tarana

    How well it applies to OP – the words blend both his persona as well as his compositions. Both SHB and OPN must be entertaining God right now!

    Ajay, while answering your question, I am also taking the liberty of sharing this message to you with some of my other friends who are also die-hard OP fans. My friend Suchitra thinks that I am absolutely crazy. Maybe I am.

    But keep visiting Sachiniti – its a treasure chest of info on OP.

    Take care,

    Siraj

    Comment by Siraj Khan — April 19, 2008 @ 9:43 pm | Reply

  1160. Siraj ji that was a delightful bit of information. Its amazing really how our ‘buzurg’ had such refined minds, ..kitni baariki se duniya aur duniyadari samjhte the..i wonder why this cannot be so replicated..How many MDs do you know today who can contribute lyrically and with correct ‘vazan’ and meter.

    I wanted to also share with you this rather strange news. There was a programme on Tv which dealt with plagiarised tunes over the years..if only trying to prove ki dhunin ki chori har zamaane mein hoti aa rahi hai inclusing our stalwarts, RDB, OP,etc.

    They spoke of OPji’s two compositions

    1) Babuji dheere chalna…they played the original tune called I think ‘perhaps perhaps’

    2) Aye dil hai mushkil jeena yahan..original tune is an 1884 folk song also used in ‘My Darling Clementine’..

    What do you all have to say about this?

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 20, 2008 @ 5:52 pm | Reply

  1161. Kaveetaa,
    Babuji Dheere chalna is partly copied from Perhaps (1949) which is actualy the English version of the Mexican song, “Quizas quizas quizas.” Perhaps was remade by several musicians including Doris Day in 1949. The first two lines of Babuji dheere chalna are quite similar to Perhaps but OP modified the rest of the song considerably that it doesn’t sound anything like Perhaps. I believe Guru Dutt had wanted more western sounding tunes and had given our man Nayyar several English/western LP records.

    In OPs Words
    ============
    “I personally never felt Guru Dutt knew a great deal about music. I still remember his initial reaction to Babuji Dheere Chalna. He told
    me, “The mukhda (the opening) is excellent but the antara (stanza)lacks something.” I asked, “What exactly is that ‘something’?” He
    said, “I don’t know – just do something with it.” I just waited for two weeks, I didn’t change a single note but after that, Guru accepted the same tune on my assurance that I have done ‘something’!

    After ‘Mr.and Mrs.55′, I parted ways with Guru Dutt. We both were too egoistic to be compatible. But after many years, for ‘Baharein Phir Bhi Aayengi’, he literally pleaded me to do the music.

    OP on Guru Dutt
    ===============
    Talking of Guru Dutt, I always feel a pang of guilt. He used to confide his personal problems in me. His wife Geeta and his flame Waheeda, both had deserted him in the end and he was pretty disturbed.

    At around 2.a.m., the same night that he committed suicide, my wife told me, “Raj Kapoor has phoned for you. He is saying that Guru Dutt
    is totally inebriated and is crying inconsolably, repeatedly calling for Nayyar Saab!” I was too tired and sleepy to go. I just told my wife to give some excuse.

    The next morning 10 o’clock, I had an appointment with Guru at his residence. I reached there and Abrar Alvi – his dialogue writer told me, “Guru has gone.” Incredulously I asked, “Where?” He said, “Guru Dutt is dead! His dead body is inside!”

    True to my straight talking nature, I just blasted those two women for ruining Guru’s life – Geeta – right there in front of Guru’s dead body in the drawing room and Waheeda – at the time of funeral! Waheeda as it is used to hate me as I had once told Guru Dutt, “She looks like a Govanese Aayah!”

    More on Aye dil hai mushkil jeena yahan later.

    Comment by Hemant — April 21, 2008 @ 9:05 pm | Reply

  1162. Thanks for this snippet/vignette Hemant ji. Op ji was one of a kind..outspoken, blunt and fearless..mark of a man.

    Guru Dutt remeins one of my favourite Bollywood directors. My tribute to him:

    https://sachiniti.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/a-tribute-to-guru-dutt-on-his-birth-anniversary/

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 21, 2008 @ 9:17 pm | Reply

  1163. Dear all,

    While searching for Javid Raza, I came to this site. I am Qamaal Mustafa and have created the website for Javid Raza at http://www.javidraza.com.

    Javid Raza is a great fan of Rafi Sahab and sings his songs in stage shows/concerts. I have uploaded about 20 songs of his on Youtube, most of them are originally sung by Rafi Sahab.

    BTW, on the legendary Nayyar Sahab, I have been privileged to meet him once at his house in Thane, alongwith Raji Didi (Tripathi) who had come all the way from USA to meet her favourite composer. Initially Babuji refused to meet but later obliged to spare 10 minutes. However, once we started talking, it was about 2 hours. It was a very emotional meeting that I will remember for my life. After that, Raji Didi remained in constant touch with Babuji.

    Thanks & Regards,
    Qamaal Mustafa

    Comment by Qamaal Mustafa Sikander — April 24, 2008 @ 7:04 pm | Reply

  1164. Qammaal ji,

    Thanks for the information on Javid Raza. Very interesting. I read the write up on him. Javid does a good job of singing originals of Rafi. It appears Javid is currently in Canada for a concert dedicated to SJ.

    Hope one day Javid would hold a concert dedicated to the memory of O.P.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — April 26, 2008 @ 8:15 am | Reply

  1165. If you see the life of politicians cum film star, some how with two wives they manage well. But with Guru Dutt this was not the case as he was too dedicated to the art of film making. In fact his films are so sensitive it reflects the man’s melancholic nature. Such men will be sensitive. If Guru Dutt had a bot of political acumen, he would have been a different man. Unfortunately this was not to be. He was obsessed with art.

    Men may come and men may go.
    But Guru Dutt’s films will go on forever.

    Comment by gajanan — April 29, 2008 @ 9:34 am | Reply

  1166. Qamaal Ji a hearty welcome!!

    I had been a little caught up over the last week or so. Please excuse the delay in response.I consider it obligatory and my privilege to welcome all to my blog. It is akin to a guest in my home and me not being available..sorry once again.

    I just heard the wonderfully rendered first song by Javid raza saheb.Its difficult to depict in words the emotions which welled up all of a sudden. His voice is melodious, mellifluous, replete with poignancy.

    ‘Ab ke baras bhej bhaiiya ko babaul’ remains one of my favourites. It holds a special meaning for me. I lost my father and hearing this song at 11.15 p.m. just now brought back a flood of memories which overwhelmed me wholly. With a great amount of determination, I decided to set aside my emotions. Crying is such a useless pursuit. It brings forth only water as reflection of pain.

    Please convey my best wishes to javid saab. He is truly a wonderful singer.

    You were lucky to have met O P ji as some of us have been here on this blog. the greatness of the man lies safely validated in the fact that none can forget him, his songs, his personna, his talent.

    Jeena isi ka naam hai..

    Please do drop in whenever possible and share your thoughts with us.

    Regards

    Kaveetaa Kaul

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — May 1, 2008 @ 11:14 pm | Reply

  1167. My dear friends,

    You all must have noticed that this post ‘O P Nayyar Not forgotten’ has crossed 25,000 views on Sachiniti . It is the comments posted by one and all, the energy of love for O P ji and the undying admiration for his melodies that has transformed this space into what it is. Thsi si an example of what synergy can achieve.

    Gajanan ji,

    Your observation on Guru Dutt is apt. He was first and last an artist with no interest or aptitude to manipulations. Often those like him suffer because of their vulnerability. Although artistry and politics is an oxymoron-ish couple, paradoxical and antithetical.

    Yet in todays times what abounds is game playing and hypocrisy, proposal making and exploitation, all in the name of making films. Those who cannot and do not abide are then way laid, robbed of their dignity and forsaken. Sad but true, talent does not rule the roost any more. It is self promotion, hype, pro and networking that is the name of the game. Guru Dutt would not have been able to survive any more now than he did then.

    One has to pay a huge price for being a worshipper of art today..especially if one is loyal to its demands. It can be exasperating. But Ma saraswati looks over all. Only those she blesses stand the test of time..the others fizzle out like a damp cracker having seen a burst of light momentarily.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — May 1, 2008 @ 11:28 pm | Reply

  1168. Pwoplw of age group consider OP Nayyar as a composer who instilled youth and koy into film music…..some of his works are unforgettable and we still search to get the rare one such as “Yahan Hum Wahan Tym” from the film Shrimathi 420….those were days when the films ran just for the music content in the film and to make a film popular the producer had only to sign OP to make music for the film

    sankaran1943

    Comment by Sankaranarayanan M — May 6, 2008 @ 5:25 pm | Reply

  1169. Hi Sri. Sankaranarayan,

    I would like to extend a warm welcome to you. As you might have noticed this blog has grown by leaps and bounds due to serious dedication by fans of O.P. Musicians come and musicians go.. but O.P. ji is one of a kind. A very unique and talented individual who was often misunderstood by the world. Even after his death, many still have quite a few misconceptions about him.

    Hope you take time to read this blog and express your views freely. Please check out the Youtube. It offers nearly 200 songs of O.P. ji. We also use the blog to augment our collection of musical compositions, not just confined to O.P.’s works. Welcome again.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 7, 2008 @ 5:31 am | Reply

  1170. Sankara narayaananji,
    your observations are absolutely correect and you have mentioned one of my all time favorites”Yahan hum vahn tum” of shrimati 420.Yes, those were the days! That was my youth.

    Comment by curao — May 8, 2008 @ 7:07 pm | Reply

  1171. Hi friends

    Giving you folks some heads-up.

    Look out for the June issue of SOCIETY, which is published from Mumbai (same publishers as Stardust). There is a very extensive article on OP NAYYAR and his life which will be featured there. As you may have gathered, yours truly is invloved. However, rather than being featured as an author, it is on an interview format.

    Siraj

    Comment by Siraj Khan — May 14, 2008 @ 12:29 am | Reply

  1172. Siraj ji..that is good. I dont like to read this Stardust kind of magazines.It was better if had come in Filmfare.Those people have maintained some dignity even after 50 years.I wonder why Society type of magazine is remembering Op after so many years. What i know is that these people come on internet and blogs and see what is popular and then fill their magazines. But anyways for us Op fans it is good.

    Comment by Krishnan — May 14, 2008 @ 3:17 pm | Reply

  1173. Siraj, Krishnan, and my other friends,

    Thanks for the good news that another magazine is planning on giving coverage to O.P. as a way of remembering O.P. and keeping his name alive. While the “Society” may not have the same degree of acceptance as the “Filmfare”, we fans of O.P. have to be heartened if any body else would like to take time and talk of O.P. ji. Now we have to show our support by buying a copy or two of the periodical “Society”. How about approaching Filmfare management and editors and requesting them to work on an article on O.P.? Thanks for listening to me.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 15, 2008 @ 5:48 pm | Reply

  1174. Siraj ji,

    Can we show our appreciation to the “Society” magazine by sponsoring an advertisement? If it’s late for the June issue, we can settle for the next issue. The ad message could be a simple Thank you from O.P. fans. If Kaveeta ji approves, we can include in the advertisement an invitation to readers to read and participate in this blog “Sachiniti”. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 15, 2008 @ 5:59 pm | Reply

  1175. #1174

    SOCIETY took my interview. If the readers like what they read, they could write to letters to the editor, appreciating it. They more the better as that can trigger off many things. Effectively, the baat se baat scenario kicks in.

    Please allow me to share with you how things worked here.

    1.SOCIETY read my article in the internet on MUBARAK BEGUM and like it.
    2.They contacted me and want to interview her (and they are in Mumbai as is MB
    3.I arrange that for them, sitting here in the USA
    4.Interview/article is published in SOCIETY (March Edition- read it, its great
    5.That edition also carries an article on Guru Dutt and Geeta Dutt.
    6.I tell them jokingly that Waheeda Rahman completes the love triangle of the Dutts, but OPN is the musical triangle (the Arr-Paar, Mr & Mrs 55 and CID story).
    7.They ask me what I knew about OPN and his music and they find that I perhaps knew a bit more than most people due to my relationship with him.
    8.They get charged up and want to take my interview. I rolled in his adopted daughter Rani Nakhwa too, who is normally shy and avoids public attention.
    9. It turns out that it would be one of the longest write-ups they have ever done on anyone.
    10.The point is if you give these guys interesting stuff, they will run for it. They are not doing anybody a favour. OP is one of most colourful and contraversial characters of the Bollywood of the yesteryears and if they are not writing on him who will they write on.

    As to ##1172, dear Krishnan, I would like to share with you something that I have learnt in life, having travelled round the globe several times and having savoured this beautiful world. Whatever you get, thank God for it and hold it with hands tightly, because you may not get that again. SOCIETY is good enough for us. If Filmfare does not write on OP, its their loss.

    Filmfare is good but there are many other good publications also around. In the present scheme of things in the world of media, internet mags and blogs are being more read more than the old-fashioned magazines.

    I have floated a concept to a radio station here in the US called “Unheard Yet Unforgettable”, which would familiarize the listeners with those OP gems which have been relatively less heard or less popular which they would otherwise not know about ever. Imagine the delightful tracks of Aisa Bhee Hota Hai, Love and Murder, Aqalmand, Johnnie Walker, Mangni, Ek Baar Muskura Do being heard on the radio again!

    Lets do whatever we can and not worry about successes and failures!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — May 15, 2008 @ 11:45 pm | Reply

  1176. This is good..I will definitely buy the issue. As Siraj ji suggested, will also write a few words for Siraj ji.

    Krishna ji..yes it may be late for ads in the mag.But your sincerity is heartwarming. As for the mention of Sachiniti and invitation to read here, in the fitness of things, Siraj ji’s mentioning Sachiniti it in his interview would have been appropriate and opportune.

    I keep listening to Op’s numbers all the time..one never tires of them.

    Regards to all.

    Jatin

    Comment by Jatin Lall — May 16, 2008 @ 1:04 am | Reply

  1177. Jatin Lall ji,

    I understand your point of view. I will sit back and wait for the interview or article to appear in the SOCIETY.

    Since I do not live in India, I appreciate if some can confirm the appearance of the story in the June edition. I will have to call my friends in Hyderabad to buy and store the magazine for me. I am sure the article will be available on the internet. I will definitely write the Editor of this magazine.

    I also listen every day to O.P. music on Youtube. My family is wondering how can I repeatedly listen to these songs day in and day out. They keep wondering and I keep listening to O.P.’s marvellous musical creations.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 16, 2008 @ 7:09 am | Reply

  1178. I find that getting addicted to YouTube is both good and bad. While I enjoy listening to the songs and actually getting to see how they were picturized (not having seen many of the films earlier), sometimes I am very disappointed to see how some great melodies have been filmed so terribly by the actors and directors that all the visualizations I had made over the years, comes crashing down. You are better off with just enjoying the audio.

    I now see why OP was never very keen to watch many of his films.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — May 18, 2008 @ 5:16 pm | Reply

  1179. Siraj ji,
    Iam eagerly looking forward to the particular issue of “society”, and certainly write to the editor. If not you, whom shall we appreciate for giving us so much info, so many insights which helped to enjoy all the more the wonderful creations of that great wizard called O.P.Nayyar?
    In your “unheard but unforgettables”, dont neglect to include that great launching pad “Mangu”, the few unforgettable duets of Asha_Geetha, and That utterly enduring and delightful nonsense called Bhagam bhag.
    Wishing you grand success with that.

    Comment by curao — May 18, 2008 @ 6:19 pm | Reply

  1180. Siraj Khan Ji,

    I often wondered why O.P. scored music for lousy movies and allowed horrible picturization of his musical creations that rather downgraded his talent. Prime examples of this type of mishandling (or abusing) of his talent are the movies: Akalmand, Shrimanji, and the Telugu movie “Neerajanam”. By the by, Youtube has just added two songs – Har Gange and Do Akalmand from Akalmand.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 20, 2008 @ 9:22 pm | Reply

  1181. Another OP Gem! Brilliant!!

    Solid harmonium, sarangi, surlin, tabla, etc

    One more classic – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUaXciuRWNU&feature=related

    Comment by Hemant — May 22, 2008 @ 6:39 pm | Reply

  1182. Dear Krishnaji,

    Thanks for your information on Javidbhai’s show in Canada. Sorry for the delay in responding, accidentally I searched for javid raza and came back to this site. Apparently, this page now comes on first page of Google for “o.p.nayyar” and it is great to know that this page has crossed 25,000 views till date.

    Long live the memory of Babuji!

    Best wishes,
    Qamaal

    Comment by Qamaal Mustafa — May 23, 2008 @ 8:40 pm | Reply

  1183. since i am at number 1183

    I like to share with my other fan freinds of Onkar Prashad Nayyar Saheb that all 13 songs of film falgun (mina_bharat)were based on raga PEELU.

    Kind Regards to all of you
    pramod shersia

    Comment by PRAMOD SHERSIA — May 25, 2008 @ 9:03 pm | Reply

  1184. OP made Biswajit into a hero with his song compositions.

    Comment by gajanan — May 26, 2008 @ 12:17 pm | Reply

  1185. Not only me and my entire family, old school mates and college mates have been great fans of O.P. Nayyar. Whenever old friends met at a function or on some occasion, our discussion used to invariably turn to Opee and his creations. Why Opee was so favourite – because his creations were unique, extremely melodious and carried his own stamp. He never allowed the melody to get lost in the midst of cacophony of hundreds of musical instruments, but instead chose to play only few instruments discretly and effectively. Listen to the songs like Ayiye Meherban, Ye hai reshmi zulfon ka andhera, Lakhon hai nigahon mei and you will come to know his mastery of creating melodious effect with minimum instruments.

    Saddest thing that happened to OP was his shishya Asha Bhosale turning her back on him and not paying any tribute to him on his death. But for OP asha would have been a second grade singer.

    Any way, for the ardent fans of OP, there are two great compositions of OP available on Youtube.com, i.e. Thandi Thandi Hawa (Johny Walker) and Piya Mai Hun Patang tu Dor(Ragini)

    – Rashid Khan –

    Comment by Rashid Khan — June 3, 2008 @ 6:20 pm | Reply

  1186. Dear fellow OP fans

    Hot off the press!

    If you have not already got your hands on it, then please go out and get yourself a copy of the June edition of SOCIETY magazine. For the benefit of those who may not be aware, SOCIETY is issued by Magnamags Mumbai, who are also the publishers of STARDUST. Cost Rs 50. (It takes longer getting to Boston so I patiently wait for my copy, as it makes it way here through the scenic route).

    The June edition passionately looks at OP NAYYAR, using my lenses, and explores OP the man and his genius, more than OP the composer. More importantly, it gives me yet another opportunity to touch the spirit of someone, about who not even for a second do I feel that he is not amongst us.

    Dil ki har baat adhuri hai, adhuri hai abhi
    Apni ek aur mulaqaat, zaroori hai abhi

    I do hope that you enjoy reading the piece as much as Suchitra Iyer and myself did, in crafting it together.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 8, 2008 @ 1:05 am | Reply

  1187. Siraj ji, We are looking forwrd to its arrival in vijayawada.
    Rashidji, Hearty welcome to you and your family amongst us, who like you are die hard fans of OP.
    Your mention of “Thandi thandi hawa’ as sweet song prompted me to write this. It is a great favourite of mine too, which I mentioned many times in this blog. In fact, there are 4(as far as I can remember) of ASha-Geetha, all outstanding compositions.
    For that matter, almost all the songs by 2 female singers composed by OP turned out to be just great. I wonder why.
    I am once again mentioning one of the sweetest songs ever composed by him, which i rate now, as one of his best ten is “Tana nadir na tana tatani-Be dard preet nahin jaani” by Asha-Usha in Qaidi is something out of this world. It was unique in many ways, seems to be based on classical ragas,with a a light western breez, with no musical interludes between antaras, sounds like non-OP, but yet in some undefinable way, it keeps telling you ” i am definitely OP’s, who else can create me?” Personally to me, it is enthralling. I wonder if it is only for me, as no one else in this blog praised it except I.
    Rashidji, some of us fruitfully exchange views and songs amongst us, mutually beneficial. It is not to create another group, but just that all of us may not have all the songs. This mutual exchange has enriched our collection. that was the only purpose.
    u can mail me ar cumrao@yahoo.com

    Comment by curao — June 9, 2008 @ 9:22 am | Reply

  1188. Hi friends, because i read here of Op jis article I bought the society magazine for Rs 50, something I would not have done otherwise becuse these mags are normally not worth it. I read the article in detail.. it could have been better. It spoke too much of the personal life of Op . It looked like they were wanting to add spiciness to the story. So it was not like a tribute or homage but more like a spiced up story . I dont know if Siraj knew this was going to happen.. though he has been quoted on all that.There should have been more written on his songs and the story behind them than all the personal life gossip.Just my 2 cents.

    Comment by Krishnan — June 9, 2008 @ 5:39 pm | Reply

  1189. Friends.. You can read Op Jis article in Society online

    http://www.magnamags.com/magnamags/content/view/2009/lang,english/

    Regards to all

    Comment by Jatin Lall — June 10, 2008 @ 3:31 pm | Reply

  1190. Rao sahib, I too believe that the combination of Geeta & Asha moulded by OP, was absolutely unique.To the best of my belief there are at least 7 duets sung by these 2 artistes under the baton of OP.

    These are : Thandi thandi hawa & jhukee jhukee pyar ki nazar{Johnny Walker], thandi hawa kali ghata & Neele Aasmani [ Mr & Mrs 55], sun sun madras ki choree[Mujrim],Is duniya se nirala hoon main {Ragini] and of course dil tera diwana aye mastani bulbul[Mr Cartoon MA] which you and I find very enjoyable.

    I am not aware if there are more songs. Possibly Siraj and Shishir ji will be able to add to this list or correct it.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — June 10, 2008 @ 6:32 pm | Reply

  1191. Hi Purinder,
    Glad to hear from you after a long time. What you said about OP-Asha-Geetha is absolutely right not only to us, but I believe to connoisseurs as well.
    BUT, Iam so far of the impression that Thandi hawa kalighata, and Neele aasmani were Geetha solos. Am I wrong? May be.
    So, other than those 2(absolute Gems in themselves), there are 5. Iam glad you mentioned Sun sun Madraski. absolutely marvellous, is it not? Was it a precurser or a a repetition of the tune “ude jab jab” of Naya daur?

    Comment by curao — June 10, 2008 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

  1192. Dear Curao

    You are spot on in validating Purinder’s info on the duets. Here again OP was the first to experiment the Geeta-Asha combo in Johnny Walker in 1957. However, his twin-lady duets in his repertoire are in fairly large number if one would expand the search to Asha-Shamshad, Geeta-Shamshad, Asha-Usha, Asha-Kamal Barot, Asha-Sudha Malhotra etc.

    But back on the Asha-Geeta combinations, OP managed to inspire a lot of other composers with his successful concept. I thought SD Burman’s Janu Janu Re from Insaan Jaag Utha in 1959,is a very lively reflection of two sahelis pulling each others leg. SDB did not loose his momentum and came with another spirited and flowing track on the heels of the first one with Bachpan Ke Din bhee Kya Din Thay in Bimal Roy’s Sujata later in the same year.

    Many of the songs (including Thandi Thandi Hawa) are on YouTube, so go for it, guys!!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 11, 2008 @ 10:11 am | Reply

  1193. Contrary to Krishnan ji’s views expressed in post # 1088, I thought the article on OP Nayyar in June issue of Society was rather well written. The narrative was crisp and the content was absorbing to read as it was peppered with interesting anectodes provided by ‘our own’ Siraj Khan.

    If at all there was a lacuna, it was the absence of a mention of Mohd Rafi. OP without Rafi is not the OP that one knows and admires.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — June 11, 2008 @ 4:26 pm | Reply

  1194. Talking of Rafi, I guess that many of us would have heard his “Chal ud ja re panchi” from the movie Bhabhi . This song is possibly Chitragupt’s best ever composition.

    Well, I recently got hold of the same song , sung by Talat Mehmood. It is absolutely fabulous and certainly the better version. Why it was never used , I can not ever fathom?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — June 11, 2008 @ 4:33 pm | Reply

  1195. Re:Mark of A Genius in “Society”. Well, perhaps some spice is apt for inclusion in such a magazine. Siraj ji touched upon some aspects of his life. More on his musical wizardry would have been better, but the article would have become too big, perhaps.

    I would like to appreciate one of the aspects mentioned on his music. Nayyar telling Sharmila ” …His was a music in motion, like a mountain stream…wherever she was…” I think here was the secret and uniqueness of Nayyar’s songs. His music was dynamic. He was in that way, different from others of that era, and that was what attracted us first to his music. Recall for example, Kabhi aar kabhi paar.. it was not a dance, or running in a park. Just meaningless movement that just suited the pace of the song. Pl. see A video of Thandi hawa Kalighata of Mr. Mrs. ’55, and marvel at the picturisation. you feel that the song was over so soon!! The same can be said about many songs. That was why His songs and Johny walker matched each other so well. That was how Shammi kapoor was resurrected by acting to the tunes of OP. See his transition from Miss coca cola via Hum sub chor hain, Kasmir ki kali, Baanth finally to Tumsa nahin dekha, in which he achieved his zenith and continued in others.
    A critic commented “Rafi sang for so many actors and MDs and so superbly, But he never sang so freely and with so much abandon as when he sang for johny walker under OP’s baton”. It was this dynamism which gave a little momentum to the careers of actors like Joy Mukherjee and Biswajeet. However, they could not capitalize on that as much as Shammi kapoor did.

    Comment by curao — June 13, 2008 @ 7:06 pm | Reply

  1196. More on MARK OF A GENIUS in SOCIETY June 2008

    Dear Krishnan and other friends

    I was delighted to read your comments and those posted by on-line readers on the website of www. magnamags.com. You have just validated what I had set out to do this time around.

    I now truly feel that not only did I meet but I seem to have actually surpassed the goal, that I had set for this particular feature/article. The whole idea was to look at OP from the prism of the man and his personal life, rather than OP the composer. SOCIETY allowed me to do that and in the process gave youa flovour of my book.

    There are many tributes out there and people paying homages to him. In fact, I have written many – both in his lifetime and after he left for the heavenly abode. What we sometimes forget in the rush of lives that we are first humans and then sons, daughters, husbands, professionals, Hindus, Christians, Indians etc.

    Those who have not read SOCIETY of March 2008, may I suggest that you please do so. When I discovered MUBARAK BEGUM in the trenches of Jogheswari/Mumbai, I rattled the chain and Suchitra Iyer was there at Bibi’s home within days. A lovely, moving article saw the print and since then Bibi’s life has taken a dramatic turn. The industry people are parading outside her small 2-room flat. Many like Nana Patekar, Sajid Khan, Dev Anand actually thought that she was no more with us. The most amazing part of the story is that she is actually singing and performing again at 77 after 40 years in wilderness. How can we possibly sing and hum songs of people who have given us so much of pleasure and happiness in spirit and yet be oblivious of them as persons and their living conditions. Wait till you find more about OP NAYYAR (the person) in my book. For now, let me sum him up in two lines for your benefit:

    Hazaar zakhm chhupa kar woh apne seene mein
    Khushi ke phool zamaney mein baanta hee raha

    Read that again. Close your eyes for a minute and think. Because that was OP NAYYAR-the man and you have just sent a blessing to his spirit!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 15, 2008 @ 2:47 am | Reply

  1197. Purinerji,
    Chal udjare was undoubtedly one of Rafi’s best, not only of Chitragupta, but of all time. 2 others which rank highly are: Basti basti parbat parbat of Railwy platfarm and Maine chand aur sitraon of Chanmdraknta. Of course, Ther will be long list of Rafi’s best if we go to Naushad, Nayyar and others.

    Comment by curao — June 15, 2008 @ 7:57 pm | Reply

  1198. Wonderful news on Shamshad Begum

    Attn friends: Specially Curao, Shishir Krishna Sharma, Krishnan and other fans

    You may recall the flurry of posts on Shamshad Begum back in March 2008. (Ref Posts # 1110, 1115 etc) In #1114, I had commented that we should not give up on Shamshad Begum (at least I would not). Well, the power of perseverance (and of course, passion)has prevailed. She may not have been willing to meet outsiders but I have managed to make the breakthrough. I am getting her back in front of the media and SOCIETY has once again responded to my call and stepped up. The result – Shamashad Begum’s interview has been done last week, where she has opened her heart and voiced her thoughts. Links with OP would be there too.

    Her 90th birthday is still many months away. SOCIETY’s July 2008 edition will cover it call, so stay tuned and get your hands on it, when its out.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 16, 2008 @ 10:39 am | Reply

  1199. Thank you siraj ji.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — June 17, 2008 @ 2:59 pm | Reply

  1200. Where is Kaveetaa ji..the forum seems quite dead with out you 🙂

    Comment by Jatin Lall — June 17, 2008 @ 3:25 pm | Reply

  1201. Siraj ji,
    ShAMSHAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY SPECIAL FAOVURITE , ONLY AFTER gEETHA. These singer singers are special and can not be compared with latha and Asha. Latha and asha were the best ofcourse.
    I very eagerly look forward to that rare interview with Shamshad. What a treat it will be!! Pl. dont forget that OP once said that he liked shamshad and Geetha most.
    thank you,

    Comment by curao — June 17, 2008 @ 8:13 pm | Reply

  1202. Siraj ji and others,

    I enjoyed reading the article “Mark of A Genius”. It’s really difficult if not it is impossible to cover all aspects of O.P.’s life in a single article. The SOCIETY editors may choose to have another article on O.P. if the readers show interest.

    It’s heartening to hear that Shamshad will be featured in an interview soon. Hope she will have good things to say about O.P.

    For Father’s Day, my daughter gave me a very unique gift. She took a picture of O.P. ji smiling from internet and had it printed on the back of a t-shirt ( a big picture). The front of the shirt reads ” Fan of O.P. 4 Life”.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — June 18, 2008 @ 5:02 pm | Reply

  1203. Krishna

    This T-shirt is an awesome idea! You are a lucky guy to have such a creative and thoughtful daughter. God Bless her.

    Yesterday, I spoke to Shamshad Begumm who despite in her sunset years (is 89), still has the spark in her voice, though she has a hard time remembering things.

    I had a longer chat with her son-in-law (a retired Air India executive) who is himself 76. They live in Powai and I will meet the family in my next visit.

    They were being very kind to me for arranging the interview with SOCIETY, which normally focuses on the movers and shakers of today, not the people of the past. I told them that any society which ignores history cannot hope for a bright future. Thats the point I had made to SOCIETY to rattle the chain. It worked and will continue to work. Usha Khanna to follow soon.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 18, 2008 @ 10:36 pm | Reply

  1204. Jatin ji #1200..thanks for remembering me. It just so happens that wifely and motherly duties were manifest in a larger way over my blogger-ly(?) obligations. Perhaps in the two and a half years of Sachiniti this has been the longest gap even for a post.But was helping hubby with a few scripts and it is admission time for son et al.

    Krishna ji..it was so heart warming to read of the wonderful gesture by your daughter. there really is no feeling more comforting than one which proves that ones children value and honor your likes and dislikes.

    Siraj ji.. I read the article on the link that Jatin ji posted..and liked it as I also told you in our mail conversations.

    Tushaar Bhatia the music composer who was really close to Op ji till his last day, called up a few days ago. We spoke for hours. He is sending me the publication of his story on Opji. It contains rare nuggets including snaps of the last rites. On receiving it I will then publish the address from where all OP fans can procure a copy. It will be a collectors delight for sure.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — June 19, 2008 @ 2:01 pm | Reply

  1205. Sharing something new which I learnt from a OP fan in Bangalore – Ajay Kanagat.

    Theme music of Shahrukh Khan’s DON is stolen from OP’s Heera-Moti (1973)

    ——————————————————————————

    Don(2006) popular title music which was the main attraction of movie is stolen from OP’s Heera-Moti (1973) background music. It is such a clean theft that no one can deny. Shame on SRK and Farhan Akhtar for not giving credits to Nayyar Saab for this signature tune of Don which they’ve stolen from Heera-Moti’s (1973) climax scene starring Shatrughan Sinha, Reena Roy & Danny Denzongpa. Its a pity that Farhan Akhtar was fully aware of the fact that if he has stolen the tune to use it as a title music of Don than he must give due credit to the original composer who worked with his grandfather Jan Nisar Akhtar during the golden 50s and both of them gave many hits during that time. Shame on you Farhan and SRK. I don’t know if Shankar Ehsaan Loy has anything to do with it.

    khansaheb2@aol.com wrote:
    Ajay

    Wow! This is complete news to me.

    Heera Moti was one OP’s later films with “Shotgun” Sinha and Reena Roy in the romantic lead. Was it only the background music or the 6 songs too? Do you think this happened because of some connection with Heera Moti’s producer Ratan Mohan?

    Heera Moti’s lyricist Ahmed Wasi is is alive and good health. Maybe I can get more info out of him. Dilraj Kaur too.

    Tell me more on this…….. Am really impressed by your knowledge base.

    Cheers

    SK

    —–Original Message—–
    From: ajay kanagat
    To: khansaheb2@aol.com
    Sent: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 1:01 am
    Subject: Re: hi

    siraj,
    the complete background music of sharukh khans ” DON ” was copied from the film ” heera moti” which had music by op nayyar.
    rgds
    Ajaykanagat

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 21, 2008 @ 12:12 pm | Reply

  1206. Dear Kaveeta and Tushar

    Thanks in advance for sharing the story with a wider readership. Look forward to more details.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 21, 2008 @ 12:19 pm | Reply

  1207. Dear me.. Siraj Ji and Ajay Ji that was one astounding bit of information. The incidence of the producer being the same might have definitely contributed since it does not amount to plagiarism as the producer is the sole owner of the material. Ethically of course its a different matter altogether. The least could have been an acknowledgement form the MDs and the Producer.

    It also goes to prove how futuristic was Op in his compositions as even a background track was ‘lifted’ decades later in a supposedly slick film. starring the reigning SRK.. wow!! That is some feat.

    Salaam to OPji one more time..

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — June 21, 2008 @ 12:35 pm | Reply

  1208. Dear Siraj and Ajay,
    That info on Don title music being lifted from Heera moti. I can really say only one thing. It makes me proud of being a hardcore OP fan. Many of us, Who highly value his music, are vindicated in our choice.

    Comment by curao — June 22, 2008 @ 10:11 am | Reply

  1209. Krishna garu,
    You are lucky to have a daughter like that(to Whom you also gave the name of Asha to transcend your likings to the next generation).
    Many people ridicule my likings for OP, Dickens, Agatha Christy, Alfred Hitchcock, Ingrid Bergman, and Charlie Chaplin in their respective fields. I know the world is moving fast and I am sure that that very “fast”-ness will make all the creations in those genres of the present day will prove to be transient.

    Comment by curao — June 22, 2008 @ 10:30 am | Reply

  1210. My friends here may forgive me
    if I am posting too many today. I was going through various lists of OP’s best songs given by many boarders here, as summarized in Sachniti itself in my post No. 994. One thing that amazed me was: so many songs of his, perhaps running into more than hundred are selected as best at least by one person. I am sure there will be others liking each of them, but who are not in Sachniti. At least I know a few liking many in those lists, who dont participate here.
    I have been hearing many of his songs, some repeatedly, for the last 2 or 3 days, to get away from some unsavory things in my personal matters. I tried other MDs first, but, they did not divert me as much as OP’s compositions. The elation i got from his songs is the cause of too many postings from me today.
    It is to be regretted that many of very knowldgeable fans of OP, like Arun, Hemanth, Thilaka, Shishir, Purinder etc. are not participating any more. I request all of them to keep the spirit alive.
    I will post another later today.

    Comment by curao — June 22, 2008 @ 12:08 pm | Reply

  1211. Many VCDs of OPN films are now available from Moser Bayer, in video shops.
    For those who want to, but do not know how to separate/cut the song part from VCDs:After testing many free softwares, I found one suitable, not only to cut but also to convert simultaneously into AVI format, with Xvid or DVX codec: “Free Video converter” Version 1.2.0. I found this has very easy interface, smooth operation, and fast.
    And, to extract audio part from the Video songs, one can download “Media coder”, whatever latest version they have. This is also free and open source. Media coder is also useful in many other ways as many of you will find.
    I just extracted all the songs from “Basant”. Some people mentioned that there are 14 songs in the film. But I found only 10. Did they unfortunately remove 4 songs to fit the film into 2 VCDs? There is no “madam Nancy you are my fancy”, which I wanted particularly.
    Also, There is no “Mai pyarka rahi hun” in Ek Musafir Ek hasina. Is it not there in the film or was it removed? Can some one pl.clarify?
    Thank you

    Comment by curao — June 22, 2008 @ 6:39 pm | Reply

  1212. Dear Curao

    I pray that whatever unsavory experience you were going through, has disappeared through the now proven OPN therapeutic treatment. I used to jokingly question OPN why he had taken up homeopathy at one stage and was treating patients in large numbers, when he could have just as easily recommended some song for every ailment. I had even offered myself as a case study and a guinea pig. Fond memories!

    Now over to BASANT. The film has in fact had created several other industry and music records which are still to be surpassed.

    Apart from the number of songs, interestingly Asha featured in all 14 of them, a record. Then Asha and Rafi went to sing 11 duets for this film, another record which stands even today.

    Hey listen, if you could manage to extract only 10 of the 14 songs, thats good enough.

    Kuch piyaas reh jaye, is ka bhee apna hi lutf hota hai

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 22, 2008 @ 7:39 pm | Reply

  1213. Dear CU Rao ji,

    After reading your mail on this blog, I tried to call you. Nobody answered the phone. Hope you and your family are doing well and what ever unsavory circumstances you have referred were temporary and are a thing of the past. Hope your lives have returned to a normal state.

    I recently spoke to Hemant. He played a song from kashmir Ki kali over the phone for me. He is doing well. In addition to a full time marketing job that keeps him on the road very extensively, he has a part time teaching job. This does not leave much time for him for other things.

    The song, a duet by Rafi and Asha from Ek Musafir Ek Hasina ““Mai pyarka rahi hun” was not picturised in the movie. This is quite a song.

    It appears O.P. would start composing and recording songs immediately after signing a contract without fully ascertaining how the songs would be used. May be he thought that his business is just to deliver a product for which he is compensated on his own terms. He could not tolerate interference from others and probably he thought he would not interfere with others.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — June 22, 2008 @ 8:42 pm | Reply

  1214. Thank you very much Siraj ji and Krishna garu,
    For your comforting words. OP Songs and books are my resorts whenever I am emotionally upset. Now, Sachniti is giving an added support through friends like you.
    I thank you Kaveetha ji for giving us this resort.
    Krishna garu, Thank you for calling me.
    Sirajji, you said extracting 10 is good enough. I could not understand. What happened to the other 4?
    Asha being in all 14 and 11 duets must be really a record.
    BTW, I felt after hearing those 10, Basant songs are after all not bad, in fact, very good. so far, i have under rated it.
    Mai pyaka rahi hun is one of the top songs of Ek musafir, in my opinion. Both Rafi and Asha excelled in singing that memorable duet. In fact, they were at their best in almost all the songs of that film. OP was in one of his best innovative elements. To me it has such excellent songs, that I expected it to win Filmfare award for that year. But, alas, it went to Professor, which in no way superior to Ek musafir. Music wise I mean. This is my personal opinion of course.

    Comment by curao — June 23, 2008 @ 5:36 pm | Reply

  1215. Rao sahib,

    Firstly, it is amazing but perfectly credible to hear from you, that OP’s music lifted your spirits at a time of personal difficulty.

    It is also kind of you to observe that I[ along with several other regulars] have not been so active on this unique platform of OP lovers. The reduction in the intensity and frequency of the past is partly due to my running out of ideas, words and statements. Call it a ‘bloggers block’.

    Secondly, I find myself surprisingly busy at work that has necessitated much travel. Nevertheless, I continue to check up the Sachiniti site with alarming regularity. Your comments, however have inspired me to write although I am still ‘on the road’ , presently in the UK.

    In one of my earlier posting I had also mentioned about the songs of Basant. 14 songs in a movie are unique because with 45-50 minutes devoted to songs, not much space is left for ths story. Although, I did not see Basant,I guess that it is unlikely that it was a fast-paced movie, although Nutan- Shammi Kapoor must have mnade a fetching pair. Of the 14 songs, many are very catchy but some are somewhat forgettable.

    Also, a small point of argument with our expert and my friend , Siraj. I believe that there are 10 and not 11 Asha-Rafi duets- while one song also has the voice of SD Batish along with Rafi-Asha.Siraj :is this correct ?

    Rao sahib- keep writing, as this inspires many of us to contribute, as well.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — June 23, 2008 @ 9:16 pm | Reply

  1216. Dear Purinder

    You are spot-on on that technical point on Basant. The Asha-Rafi duets are 10 and the 11th (which I thought was also a duet)Batish chips in with Asha/Rafi. The other three are Asha(without Rafi) to make it 14. Not sure why Curao found only 10 of these songs in the film instead of 14.

    Actually, OP’s second outing in Chham Chhama Chham is also intriguing. Originally, Asha was to sing 2 songs but ended up featuring eventually in 10 of the 11 songs in the film. Kishore (also the hero) accompanied her in the many duets. Shamshad Begum was involved in the only other non-Asha song. Asha recorded her first song for OP titled Aa Pardesee Baalma Moray Aangna. Who would have known then that the song was effectively creating history by creating a partnership the likes of which the world is unlikely to ever see again – a liason which played a role in 60 (of OP’s 73 films), creating 324 songs more than half of which were Asha solos.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — June 24, 2008 @ 8:29 am | Reply

  1217. Dear C U Rao, Purinder, and Siraj,

    Thanks to well-informed friends like you, I am able to know more about O.P. and his musical creations. I understand Basant, whose story line was a copy of an English/Hollywood movie, ran into trouble with the Censor Board due to some steamy scenes and the release of this movie was delayed. I did not know that Basant had 14 songs. When I was going to school in Minnesota, another student who is from West Indies was always playing a 78 RPM record of Basant. The HMV record had two duets: (1) Chori Chori Ek Ishaara Ho Gaya Ayen and (2) Raaste mein ek hassi aji mil gaya hum ko kahin. These two songs are very great. This guy used to play these songs at least once a day.

    I don’t recollect if any of the Basant songs made into Binaca Geeta line up.

    Further, if I recollect some body made a comment some time back that the MD who was initially signed up for this movie was subsequently forced out to make room for O.P. Is this true? Did the other MD tape any songs?

    Rao ji, you have amassed a vast collection of O.P. songs and I have to spend a few days with you in my next trip to tap into your collection.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — June 25, 2008 @ 4:44 pm | Reply

  1218. I stumbled on your website while searching for ops musafirkhana songs and I am very pleased.
    I am a great fan of O.P
    I read that S.K Roy has lot of songs.Can you send them to me also?
    I have seen Basant and I dont recall 14 songs also I have not heard Maadam Nancy You are my fancy. Thats news
    ASHA

    Comment by asha bhoomkar — July 1, 2008 @ 2:26 am | Reply

  1219. Asha ji,

    Welcome. This site is frequented by hard core fans of O.P. I am one among them. Welcome again. Please share your ideas and feelings and become a regular visitor to this site.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 1, 2008 @ 3:28 am | Reply

  1220. For post 1205

    Many tunes of yesteryears have been copied. There could be dissertation on this a PhD thesis ” Lifting of tunes from old films , how , why and which tune in recent times”

    A study on modern day copy cats in Indian film music.

    Some of the tunes are copied in between , some at start and some at end.

    With OP Nayyar , you cannot do this , due to his vibrant music right from start to end. Yes Don is a new dawn of copy cats. With OPN , if you copy , you will get caught. I will surely conduct a strict quality control test on Heera Moti and Don (New) for this.

    One thing irritates all is the way, the film fraternity behaved when OPN passed away. Sparse few to mourn and then upar se unka music ka chori. Only the legendary Ajit can give a resounding words for this ” What a bunch of fools!!! . Mourn na Mourn Kaam se Kaam OPN Ka music ko Maan”

    Comment by gajanan — July 2, 2008 @ 9:28 am | Reply

  1221. Welcome Ashaji into the midst of hard core OPN fans.
    Pl. tell me if your search for Musafirkhana songs does not succeed. Those songs are indeed something worthy of collection by all OPN fans.

    Comment by curao — July 2, 2008 @ 6:34 pm | Reply

  1222. Hello friends

    Here is an idea. OP is known for his Taanga beat. When the first one rolled out with his now famous signature beat little did OP know how frequently will he would end up using it without listeners ever getting tired. The Taanga continued to his last film Zid in 1993.

    I thought it would be interesting to compile a list of all his Taanga beat songs. I am starting with #1. Please keep on adding but do not repeat which has already been listed.

    If there is enough interest, we can even produce a CD in the end called Taanga Forever.

    So the taanga kicks off with (I believe OP’s first experiment)

    1. Aaja re Aaja Na sata re Piya (Asha/Shamshad in Chhoo Mantar)

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 3, 2008 @ 5:26 am | Reply

  1223. Hi S K Saheb,

    I like the idea of producing a CD titled “Taanga Forever” or “Taanga Fever”. Since you are so close to O.P. and have a large collection of his songs, you could have come up with a long list by yourself. Instead, you chose to float the idea and cite one song and allow others to come on board. This is a great idea. My suggested addition is

    2.Eent ki Tukki Paan Ka Ekka. A solo by Md. Rafi from Howrah Bridge. This is a super hit, a marvellous creation and a unique composition. I truly wonder how could O.P. come up with a tune and the accompanying blend of instruments. He is one of a kind. We miss him very much.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 3, 2008 @ 6:57 am | Reply

  1224. I posted a video song “Peeche hath hath babu chedna” of Basanth in Youtube. I felt that it is one of his less known but quite a scintillating song.
    songs.
    songs of Musafirkhana and Kalpana are also posted by others.
    more on Basanth: I could find only 10 not only in the VCD I have but also from 2 other sources. Perhaps the other 4 were removed to fit the film into DVD/VCD, though I doubt that reason. Somehow, somewhere they got swallowed up by time!!?
    I would be thankful if some one can supply them to me.
    Besides the songs mentioned by Krishna garu, and peeche hat hath, There are a few other very good songs:Nainon me surajki, are dilpe lagake darling,Ghoomke aay ahun mai bandhu.
    Krishna garu, You are correct in saying that the plot is copied from an English movie. The original was “Roman holiday”, a hilarious one, with Gregory peck and Audrey hepburn(debut film), Audrey got her first oscar in her very first film. One of the most unforgettable films of all time. Soon after that, many clones of that plot appeared in Hindi, the first being the famous Chori chori. later, Basanth. I forgot the title of the last clone, sometime in early 90s, (Eh dil mangtha hai?), but in which Puja bhat made her debut. But your supsicion that there were “steamy” scenes in Basanth is perhaps not true. As far I could judge, there were no such things, and no scope with Nutan being heroine.
    That may not be the reason for cesnsor objections. I suspect that some phrases in the lyric of Ghooke aaya hun mai bandhu picturized on johny walker might be conceived as objectionable. with the mention of Raaj kapoor, Rafi, Asha, Burman, Shankar Jaikishan, Nayyar, Naushad’s anmes being mentioned as being in the band of Johny walker.
    Purinderji, The story unfolds at a reasonably fast pace, despite there being so many songs, because it has a very simple plot.

    Comment by curao — July 3, 2008 @ 5:43 pm | Reply

  1225. Taanga Beat – OP was the champ. The song that I have in mind is probably from a film earlier than Choo Mantar and maybe in fact be the 1st song with ‘hoof beats’ from the OP Khazana.

    But, a story before I name the song.

    A friend of mine while travelling to the African country of the Republic of Cameroon, heard the hotel musicians play a tune that sounded very close to OP’s composition “piya piya piya’. My friend somehow assumed that as the French-speaking musicians were playing this number, it probably was a French song. Curiosity got the better of my friend and she asked the musicians which song they were actually playing. Imagine her surprise when she was told that it was a song called ‘Piya piya piya’ by an Indian composer, Monsieur OP Nayyar!!

    And I think this song “Piya piya piya’ from the film “Baap re Baap” was created and released in 1955 just a year before Choo Mantar.

    I do know a few more songs in the same vein, but to take Siraj’s initiative further, let’s others pitch in.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 3, 2008 @ 8:49 pm | Reply

  1226. Dear OPN fans,

    Zulf Lehrayi To Sawan Ka Mahina Aa Gaya and the second one Haath Aaya Hai Jab Se.Where to get these two songs ? Please help…..

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 3, 2008 @ 9:30 pm | Reply

  1227. Rao sahib,

    Please email me the 10 songs of Basant that you have. I will endeavour to complete your collection.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 3, 2008 @ 10:57 pm | Reply

  1228. Post # 1226 – ‘Zulf Lehrayi To Sawan Ka Mahina Aa Gaya’ is in all probability NOT and OP composition. I am willing to stand corrected.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 3, 2008 @ 11:01 pm | Reply

  1229. First of all, have just learnt from a friend that ‘Zulf Lehrayi To Sawan Ka Mahina Aa Gaya’ is in in fact an OP composition from the film “Khoon ka badla khoon” released in 1977 or 78 – sung by Vani Jairam. My apologies.

    A bit more on ‘Baap re baap’ ( post# 1225)- I understand that C Ramachandra was the original music director, but Mr AR Kardar the producer of this movie saw it fit to replace C Ramachandra with OP, just after Aar Paar propelled OP into an orbit of his own.

    Siraj would probably be able to comment more on this,

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 3, 2008 @ 11:21 pm | Reply

  1230. Anand Berry Saheb,

    Purinder ji has given you some information on the song “Zulf Lehrayi To Sawan Ka Mahina aa Gaya”. Turning to the other song you are looking for “Haath Aaya Hai Jab Se”, I can provide you more information. This is a duet rendered by Asha and Mahendra Kapoor from the movie “Dil Aur Mohabat” starring Sharmila and Joy Mukherji. I have a DVD of this movie. Our friend Hemant burnt this DVD for me. You can look for a DVD or VCD of this movie. If you want I will try to get you a copy of the DVD of this movie.

    Youtube has this song. Please search Youtube for the movie “Dil Aur Mohabat”.

    I hope this information helps you.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 4, 2008 @ 8:41 am | Reply

  1231. Piya piya piya’. Yes , PG kya tune hai.Immortal. I still sing it. Kitne bhi ARRahaman aana do, Piya Piya Piya is my Jiya Jiya Jiya. It will take a million monsoons to tune Piya Piya like song.

    Comment by gajanan — July 5, 2008 @ 11:54 am | Reply

  1232. My additions to Taanga songs:
    1. Mang ke saath thumhara-Rafi/Asha-Naya Daur
    2. Oh yaaronki tamanna hai-MK/Asha-Kahi din kahi raat
    3. Ai dil mushkil… Ye hai bombay meri jaan-Rafi/Geetha- CID-The most popular of all such songs
    4. Chal beta left chal beta right-Rafi-Do dilonki dastan
    5. Such kehta hun bahut hasinon-Rafi/Asha-Jalinote
    6. Chal mere ghodi chal chal chal-Singers(?)-Nischaiy
    7. Jara holle holle chalo mere sajna-Asha-Sawanki ghata
    8. Yuntho humne lakh hasinon-Rafi-Tumsa nahin dekha-one of the best opf his carreer
    These are all i could readily recall. In (6) above, I am not sure about the singers.
    More may be added by others.

    Comment by curao — July 5, 2008 @ 8:30 pm | Reply

  1233. Another taanga song i found is:
    Aj pehli mulaqat me-Rafi/Asha-Do dilonki dastan.
    I think this film is the only one with 2 taanaga songs, if my selection is right. I stand to be corrected.
    So far, we have got 12, including those mentioned earlier.
    Some how I have a feeling that there are more.

    Comment by curao — July 6, 2008 @ 7:21 am | Reply

  1234. Gajananji,
    you are right on dot in #1231. Congratulations for daring to say that on ARRahmaan, you are exactly echoing my own opinion , not only abt piya piya piya but also 100s if not 1000s of songs of that golden era that has gone forever, except through recalling our fond nostalgic memories.
    You are also right in saying (#1205) that Nayyar is the most difficult one to imitate because of the vibrancy, that beat, that undefinable “Nayyarness” of his songs.
    Anand berry saab,
    If you want Julph lehrayi tho of Khoonka badla khoon , I can send you as email attachment if you dont mind giving me your email address.
    My own email addr is

    Comment by curao — July 6, 2008 @ 12:14 pm | Reply

  1235. Hi , above in #1234, my email addr did not get thro for some reason
    It is : cumrao@yahoo.com

    Comment by curao — July 6, 2008 @ 6:47 pm | Reply

  1236. Dear Fans of SANGEET SAMRAT OPN ji,
    With due respects to all of you I wish to state that many copycats have tried to imitate the famous TANGA BEATS of OPN ji and I think the whole credit goes to the inspiration of our beloved Babujee. So it won’t be wrong to mention other songs “Tanga Beats inspired by OPN ji” However here lies another list of TANGA BEATS.

    1)Bachpan Ke Din Bhula Na Dena
    2)Bandaparwar Thaam Lo Jigar
    3)Bheega Bheega Pyaar Ka Sama
    4)Int Ki Dukki Paan Ka Ikka
    5)Jhoome Re Neela Ambar Jhoome
    6)Maang Ke Saath Tumhara
    7)O Gaadiwale Gaadi Dheere Haank Re
    8)Piya Piya Piya Mora Jiya Pukare
    9)Raat Ne Kya Kya Khwaab Dikhaye
    10)Yelo Yelo Hum Dil Haar Chuke Hain
    11)Yun To Humne Laakh Haseen Dekhe Hain
    12)Zara Haule Haule Chalo More Saajna

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 6, 2008 @ 7:09 pm | Reply

  1237. Dear CURAO Ji

    My id is

    berry.arjun@gmail.com

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 6, 2008 @ 9:14 pm | Reply

  1238. Looks like the Taanga has really got going! I am soon going to compile a master list and then we can add on to it as we go along, as songs are being repeated.

    Some responses as I found my name mentioned in more than one post.

    #1225
    Purinder, indeed Baap Re Baap was released a few months earlier in 1955 before Chhoo Mantar in early 1956. However, I just checked it out with my records that Aja re Aja na Sata re Piya was recorded first and was on the radio tracks much earlier. Piya, Piya, Piya, however, became much more popular with Kishore at his yodelling best.

    Baap Re Baap had 11 songs. The first 3 had already ben recorded by C Ramchandra when Producer/Director Abdul Rashid Kardar, swept away by the OP fever, decided to change gears and signed up OP. OP came out with 8 of his own. CR was compensated well for agreeing to modify his contract. CR’s songs never made it and were buried with the layers of time. I think Asha’s Raat Rangeeli Chamke Tare in Baap Re Baap is terrific!

    One other common denominator in Baap Re Baap and Chhoo Mantar – the magical lyrics which were penned entirely by Janisar Akhtar (father of Javed Akhtar). OP worked only with JNA for these two films

    #1229
    Khoon ka Badla Khoon was released in 1978. Interestingly, all 8 songs featured Vani Jairam. Even more interesting was that OP’s patching up with Rafi was in process, hence a rare Vani/rafi duet came along. As we all know, neither his experimentation with Vani nor his late expolitations with Rafi had the magic of the past and all which was needed were the overdose of fights between Vinod Khanna and Ajit to make the film die its natural death.

    #1236
    Anand, with my passion for OP, I can easily get carried away. However, one must give the credit where its due. It would be unfair to call other composers as ‘copycats”. As Naushad is said to have said once ” Nayyar ne saare tangon ka theka to nahee le liya”. It would not be incorrect to say that his “Bachpan ke din bhula na dena” was recorded much before OP rolled out his first taanga number.

    Similarly, Khayyam came with that incredible beat in Aasmaan pe Hai Khuda aur Zameen pe hum back in 1958 in Phir Subah Hogi. OP’s immortal Pukarta Chal Hoon Mein came in much later and he had many in that mould later – enough to be identified as OP’s beat!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 6, 2008 @ 11:04 pm | Reply

  1239. Curao

    Speaking of Khoon…..can I also possibly have Zulf Lahraye…..

    Dili Shukrya

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 6, 2008 @ 11:10 pm | Reply

  1240. truly enjoying the goings on..

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 7, 2008 @ 12:16 am | Reply

  1241. Encore

    : piyaa piyaa piyaa..
    piyaa piyaa piyaa meraa jiyaa pukaare
    (ham bhi chalenge sainyaa sang tumhaare) -2
    ki: chori chori chori
    chori chori chori kaahe hamen pukaare
    (tum to basi ho gori man mein hamaare) -2
    aa: piyaa piyaa piyaa, aa aa aa aa aa, aa aa aa aa, aa aa aa
    ki: aa haahaa haa aaN, Teeyo Di re ee, o Di re ee, yoo Di re ee

    aa: (ye khinchoo-khinchoo hamse, chale ho kahaaN sainyaa
    main laagoo tore painyaa, na chhoD mori bainyaa) -2
    ki: (ye chhab matvaari, ye mukh goraa goraa
    na dekho dekho aise ki jiyaa Dole moraa) -2
    aa: aaN, bhole bhaale nainaa mere jaane kyaa ishaare
    ki: (tum to basi ho gori man mein hamaare) -2
    aa: piyaa piyaa piyaa, aa aa aa aa aa, aa aa aa aa, aa aa aa
    ki: yaa Di re ee, yo Du ro oo, Di ey Di re ee, TuDu ro oo

    aa: (main piyaa tori chhaayaa, main sang sang DolooN
    tu jaaye jahaaN sainyaa, main saath tere ho looN) -2
    ki: ye rut man bhaati ye din madmaate
    o dekho gori ham tum chale hain hanste gaate aa: aaN
    ki: ye rut man bhaati ye din madmaate
    o dekho gori ham tum chale hain hanste gaate
    aa: aaN, mere piyaa jhoome jiyaa, jhoome ye nazaare
    ki: (tum to basi ho gori man mein hamaare) -2
    aa: piyaa piyaa piyaa meraa jiyaa pukaare
    (ham bhi chalenge sainyaa sang tumhaare) -2
    piyaa piyaa piyaa, aa aa aa aa aa, aa aa aa aa, aa aa aa
    Kishore and Asha Singing Together
    ki: aa haahaa haa aaN, hey hey hey hey hey ain, o ho ho ho ho oN, aa haa haa aaN
    (Di Di Dei) -3, TuDuDu re ee
    aa: aa aa aa aa aa, aa aa aa aa..

    This is the best part of the song Piya Piya ( (below)
    aa: (main piyaa tori chhaayaa, main sang sang DolooN
    tu jaaye jahaaN sainyaa, main saath tere ho looN) -2
    ki: ye rut man bhaati ye din madmaate
    o dekho gori ham tum chale hain hanste gaate

    ye rut man Bhaati , ye din mamaate , the way

    Kishore sings this line is a revelation. Mind you the acoustics were not great those days 1955 and the effect great. Looks like atleast , to save us from Greenhouse gases and global warming. Tanga wapas leke aana padega, no emissions at all, but romance will there for sure with climate unchanged and we will all sing riding the tanga

    ye rut man Bhaati , ye din mamaate
    o dekho OPN ke Panke, ham tum chale hain hanste gaate

    Then all OPN Panke (fans) in unison

    aa haahaa haa aaN, hey hey hey hey hey ain, o ho ho ho ho oN, aa haa haa aaN
    (Di Di Dei) -3, TuDuDu re ee
    aa: aa aa aa aa aa, aa aa aa aa..

    Comment by gajanan — July 7, 2008 @ 7:28 am | Reply

  1242. Great to see some effervesence again on this site.

    I came across a word that describes addicts of OP music – OPiums!!

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 7, 2008 @ 7:56 am | Reply

  1243. Friends I wonder if you recall that in this song ‘piya piya’ Asha Bhonsle chipped in with her ‘aa aa’ in the antara , I think it was after ‘yeh rut matwaali yeh din madmaate ‘ which Kishore had to sing twice. Asha faltered and came in the first time itself. It was the days of one take recordings with no punchings which could e incorporated later. So one mistake meant the whole song had to e re recorded. I guess they just carried on singing and all turned out well..

    Purinder ji OPiums is too good and so right..nasha of Op jis tunes is no less potent or addictive as opium..So we are the official OPIUMS now!!

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 7, 2008 @ 8:09 am | Reply

  1244. Friends,

    Quite a downpour of letters in the last few days. I have enjoyed reading all of them. I have left a message for Hemant to visit Sachniti and bring himself up to date and hear what other OPIUMS have to say.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 7, 2008 @ 8:55 am | Reply

  1245. OPiums, we are indeed!

    I will let you know if and when any Homeland Security wizard picks me up at the airport on charges of drug trafficking. If I am tortured to spill the beans, I will cheerfully take Kaveetaa’s name as the head of the mafia. Ha.. ha!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 8, 2008 @ 1:35 am | Reply

  1246. Raju Bharatan in rediff.com on Lata and Dilip Kumar achieving Lifetime achievement award. A must read article. Raju Bharatan writes very well. A very good filmographist compared to the present day “aafwa” film writers. Goes very deep and gives details.

    A matter to be noted is that even Lata passed a obituary when OPN passed away, but Asha se hum saab aab bhi niraash hai. Lagta hai ek picture nikalna padega ” Obituary 2050″ with title music of the tune “Jaayeeye aap kahaan jaayenge” in flute combined with guitar in the background and slow drums.

    So there you see, dear all , Lata bhi gaati hai
    OPN ka geet. Kya baat hai.

    Jaayeeye aap kahaan jaayenge, OPNji aapto Lata se lekar aam aadmi ke labz me hai.

    The following bit is abstacted from the web site by Raju Bharatan.

    http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2008/jul/07slid4.htm

    “Lata might hum her bete noire O P Nayyar’s Jaayeeye aap kahaan jaayenge in the interior of her Prabhu Kunj home. But in public, when she plays OP’s Yeh hai reshmi zulfon ka andheraa on Vividh Bharati, she does so saying, wickedly, that it is Asha’s sultry-quality singing that is making her do so”

    Raju Bharatan has written ” wicked”. One feels that Lata yearned too sing for OPN, but it could not happen. Nonchalantly ( indifferent) could be the right word one feels. Wicked is a bit extreme, if Lata is acknowledging Asha’s sultry voice.

    Comment by gajanan — July 8, 2008 @ 6:32 am | Reply

  1247. Siraj ji this is one ‘mafia’ cabal I will have no problems admitting to head.But will make Purinder ji the COO by virtue of his having put us in the soup 🙂

    Gajanan ji your comments are one of a kind. And I do agree that Raju Bharatan is a good writer. Not comparable to your ‘Obituary 2050’ 🙂

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 8, 2008 @ 9:16 am | Reply

  1248. Kaveetha ji, #1243,
    Asha prematurely chipping-in may be as per director also, deliberately for fun.
    In the film it was shown that Chand Usmani mistakenly starts singing, when Kishore shuts her mouth with his palm and resumes his repetiton. It also could be that the picturisation was done that way because the song might have already recorded with that mistake.
    Gajananji,
    Latha sang another bit of Op song in a film or concert, I do not know. But i have that bit from Naya Daur “Ude jab jab julphen teri”
    I too think that none of the great composers of those days deliberately copied others. similarities, which I my self pointed out sometimes might be coincidental.
    Yes, of course, the ideas might have been adapted. E.G. Taanga beat is liked by people so let me also compose a song on that. some thing like that on Rock”N rolls, Qawalis.

    Comment by curao — July 8, 2008 @ 7:56 pm | Reply

  1249. Cu Rao ji.. As far as I can recall it was not deliberate. What was picturised was a cover up of the faux pas. I think hemant ji lso and me have discussed this earlier on in the comments.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 8, 2008 @ 9:27 pm | Reply

  1250. Kaveetaa ji, a COO at last . I’ve waited a long time in the corporate world for a designation, if not fame. So, it feels great to be recognised, at long last a lady Mafioso heading the mafia called OPiums.

    Thank you for making my day.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 8, 2008 @ 9:37 pm | Reply

  1251. Purinder Ji,

    Please accept our sincere congratulations now that you are the COO of the OPiums. How about the role of Siraj Khan Saheb? If you support the idea of bestowing the title of “Chief Public Relations Officer” upon Siraj ji, Kaveeta ji may approve it. Any other ideas to recognize the role and contributions of Siraj Khan?

    For Cu Rao ji, I suggest the title of Chief Marketing Officer.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 8, 2008 @ 10:10 pm | Reply

  1252. OPN ke Panke ke liye Hierarachy nahi chahiye.
    OPN is CEO, CMM and all in all. Just do it , Just do it.

    Comment by gajanan — July 9, 2008 @ 5:25 am | Reply

  1253. Friends I think some of you are reading more into this than it implies. The nomination was purely tongue in cheek. ‘Mafia’, ‘opiums’ etc led to this. Purinderji being the originator of the terminology was brought in to bear responsibility for creating the storm in a tea cup 🙂 So relax friends..

    Purinder ji..now look what you have done. Merely the mention of OPIUMS is sending everyone into a tizzy. And the position is yours . I hope though you are cognisant of the implications. The COO bears total responsibility in legal tangles while the rest get away whistling merrily… including the “lady mafioso”.

    I hope fans of OP are realising that this is ONLY a fun conversation..no seriousness to be attributed please.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 9, 2008 @ 8:32 am | Reply

  1254. Dear All,

    Few more O P Nayyar Tanga beat songs..

    1. Meri Jaan me tujh pe fida.. Runa Laila from Loves of Runa Laila- 1983
    2. Dekh Mohabbat ka dastoor, tu mujh se main tujh se door- Peenaz Masani from Tuhi Mera Dil Tuhi Meri Jaan-1988
    3. Chal mere ghode chal chal chal.. Nishchaiy – Md Aziz – 1992
    4. Ghallu ghallu na–Neerajanam-telugu movie- S Janaki – 1989

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N Murty — July 9, 2008 @ 9:00 am | Reply

  1255. Kaveeta Ji,

    We all know this title talk was just in jest. No body would take this seriously. But one thing is for sure, I am addicted to O.P. ji’s music. Even when I am at work, some song of O.P. comes to my mind. When driving with my wife by my side, I start humming some song of O.P. It just happens all of a sudden.

    Now I am telling you some thing that has happened to me. I am not lying. This is not a fabrication. O.P. ji died one afternoon after having lunch. In U.S.A. it was early morning (we are about 11.5 hours behind IST). I woke up about 3 a.m. and I could hear the song “Chal Akela Chal Akela, thera mela chuta rahi chal akela” ringing in my ears. Next morning as usual I opened the Times of India on net and screamed aloud when I saw the headline about the demise of my beloved MD. I was in a state of shock and I cried. I never met O.P. ji. I never spoke to him yet we seem to have established a mental connection. I just cannot explain this coincidence. I hope O.P. ji’s soul is resting in peace knowing fully well that a few earthlings care deeply about him and think of him every day.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 9, 2008 @ 9:18 am | Reply

  1256. Truly Remarkable Krishna Ji. Distances/separations are merely perceptions. This proves just how connected souls are, depending on the vibrations. I second you totally on your last statement..Amen

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 9, 2008 @ 9:34 am | Reply

  1257. Dear OPiums

    Just wanted to give you a quick update on the media front.

    I thought that my interview in SOCIETY’s June edition “Mark of a Genius” on OP was old news.(For the benefit of those who have still not read it, check http://www.magnamags.com- SOCIETY/ FEATURES).
    Well, I found out today that it has turned to be one of the most viewed/read features they have ever had. So much so that although their July edition has been out for a week now, but the online version still has the OP article firmly up there as a top Feature. I get dozens of mail from all over the planet about it.

    Now to the July edition. Please get hold of your copy right away and I will tell you why. I convinced SOCIETY and then arranged for them an interview with the legendary Shamshad Begum. (How I convinced her is a secret I cannot disclose). We have had OPiums right here saying that SB is a recluse and avoids visibility and the public. That is indeed true. Nobody has seen an interview or even a photograph of hers for ages. Some people even thought that the singer lived no more. SOCIETY has effectively created history for this very rare coverage and a peek into the little known private life of this almost 90 year-old legend. Obviously, how could this article possibly be without reference to OP!

    I continue to work with SOCIETY next with Usha Khanna, lyricist the late SH Bihari and others in the pipeline.

    By the way, last weekend there was a huge concert in Delhi to honour music director Ravi, who is now 82. Interestingly, he is still active but in Malyalam films in the south.

    The little spark that I had lit for Mubarak Begum back in January this year has turned into an amazing fairy tale. She is all geared up for yet another concert in Delhi on July 19th at the IICC, with angels working on Kolkata and Chennai concerts in the coming months. The 77 year old singer is back to singing after 40 years in the wilderness. There is just word to describe her magical story and her singing – INCREDIBLE!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 9, 2008 @ 10:24 am | Reply

  1258. Kaveetaa ji – OPiums are only voicing their OPinions. Isn’t it wonderful!!

    And to be made the Ch OPerating Off. What an OPportunity!!

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 9, 2008 @ 11:59 am | Reply

  1259. O P urinder ji.. I was merely OPining too.I was OPtionless in your apptt..hOPe you use it OPtimally

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 9, 2008 @ 12:26 pm | Reply

  1260. Kaveethaji,
    It well could be a cover up the faux pas. I said that my post any way. It could have been deliberate or could be a cover up. I myself did not know which of course. Now that you and Hemanthji say it was a cover up, it is so then.
    Krishna ji,
    I, a chief marketing officer? lol. may be a chief distributor?
    Siraj ji may be called as Chief executive and you youself Chief promoter?
    all in fun of course as Kaveetha ji said

    Comment by curao — July 9, 2008 @ 7:40 pm | Reply

  1261. Kaveetaa ji – Touche! Here’s hOPing for many more similar OPportunities to interact.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 10, 2008 @ 9:06 am | Reply

  1262. Jise zamane ne kaha OP

    Wo diwana hee tou thaa OP

    Gaane tou thay hee wallah

    Ek aur nishani teri TOPI

    ( Poet: Siraj Khan)

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 10, 2008 @ 10:04 am | Reply

  1263. What would Ajit say to all this.

    ” What a bakwas doctor is here among this bunch. BP bhi dekhna nahi aati”

    Robert ” Boss, aapko BP Kaha hai”

    Ajit ” O!! O!! Samajh gaya , kyo mujhe BP nahi hai” Mona zara woh halka sa gana bhaja de.

    Mona ” Yes, Lion , konsa halka sa”

    Ajit ” Mona , that OPen hearted music director ka gana”
    Mona ” Boss, aapka taste bhi O(nly) P(lus) hai”
    Mona goes and plays the record. The whole scene changes. Ajit shakes his body halka, halka sa, with occasional chutkis of his thumb and first finger. Mona realises that Ajit is no more interested in her and he has been OPdicted by this song. Seeing the style of his Lion, Robert intends to join in the slow paced dance, but waits for some time and whispers ” Drinks ” in Ajit’s ears. Ajit ” Yeh Gana hi bas hai, Robert and swings his body with slow steps. Mona taps her foot to the amusement of the rest, with Robert joining for a slow jazz like dance, when the second repeat of the lyrics comes in

    … Aao Huzoor Thumko, Sitaro me le chalu…

    Comment by gajanan — July 10, 2008 @ 12:50 pm | Reply

  1264. Siraj sahib- Wallah, kya baat hai!

    One knew that you are a tablanawaz. Now to see the shair in you.Delectable!

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 10, 2008 @ 1:53 pm | Reply

  1265. ditto #1264

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 10, 2008 @ 3:47 pm | Reply

  1266. Krishna – interesting to see your recent posts and to note that you too have got into the irreverent mood, inspired by our CEO and lady mafioso Mohterma Kaveetaa Kaul .

    It is truly wonderful that we can all can still laugh a bit at ourselves and have a lot of fun.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 10, 2008 @ 9:12 pm | Reply

  1267. Rao sahib,

    Have sent you 4 songs from ‘Basant’ so that you are now the proud owner of ALL 14 songs from this movie.

    I am sure that you will enjoy listening to your long forgotten favourite ” O Madam Nancy”

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 10, 2008 @ 9:16 pm | Reply

  1268. Dear CURAO ji,

    Thanks a million for sending me the song ‘Zulf Lehrayi To Sawan Ka Mahina Aa Gaya’from the movie Khoon Ka Badla Khoon. It seems good to hear this number after so many years. Thanks once again for the effort taken.

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 10, 2008 @ 9:55 pm | Reply

  1269. Dear Purinder ji,

    #1194
    Sabhi Se Juda Jiska Andaaz Hai
    Zameen Taa Falak Jiski Prawaaz Hai
    Wohi Jispe Sangeet Ko Naaz Hai
    Mohammed Rafi Saab Ki Woh Aawaaz Hai

    Purinder Ji, with due respects to Rafi Saab I fully agree with you that the number ‘Chal Udd Jaa Re Panchhi’ sung by Talat Mahmood is par excellence.

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 10, 2008 @ 10:38 pm | Reply

  1270. Let’s start OP-ANTAKSHARI
    Maximum four lines of OP Nayyar composed songs
    Minimum two lines , but all should be the start of the songs. Only OPIYAM songs

    Start with
    aao huzoor tumko sitaaron mein le chalun
    dil jhoom jaaye aisi bahaaron mein le chalun

    Chalo end word se shuru karo.

    Comment by gajanan — July 11, 2008 @ 7:27 am | Reply

  1271. From this web site. Interesting facts about OPN

    http://groups.google.co.in/group/rec.music.indian.misc/browse_thread/thread/d028df6eb3e672fb/b49ccdb9cb51b630?lnk=st&q=shamshad&rnum=4

    A last musical soiree with the maestro

    S Balakrishnan I TNN

    Mumbai: On January 26, O P Nayyar was a little unwell. Nevertheless, he agreed
    to attend a programme titled ‘Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon’ organised by a city NGO,
    Desh Seva Samiti, since it was an evening of his songs. He travelled all the way
    from Thane, where he lived, to the Mysore Association hall in Matunga for the
    event with assistant commissioner of police Y D Tapase, his neighbour and
    long-time fan.
    He could not sit through the evening, but for the time he was there he was alert
    as ever. From the front row, he told a singer Bina Desai to bring a certain
    “sharpness’’ to the song ‘Thandi hawa kali ghata…’ Replying to the
    felicitations, he said with modesty, “I have no knowledge of the sa, re, ga, ma
    of music. Whatever I composed was because of God’s ‘meherbani’.’’
    Talking to this correspondent, he said a line from the song ‘Dil ki awaz bhi
    sun, mere fasane pe na ja’ (Humsaya) summed up the tragedy of his life. The line
    he referred to was ‘Waqt insaan pe aisa bhi kabhi aata hai, raah mein chhodke
    saaya bhi chala jaata hai’ (There are occasions in a person’s life when even his
    shadow deserts him).
    He was very emotional that evening and could not oblige all his fans who vied
    for his autograph. Before leaving the hall, he quietly asked if he could have a
    peg of Scotch whisky. Being a dry day, this correspondent, who was escorting him
    out of the hall, could not oblige him. With a hug Nayyar said, “May be some
    other time.’’ That day will now, unfortunately, never come.
    —————————————————————————­—–

    His work was different from his contemporaries. One could always identify an OP song. He left his distinct mark on his songs. I never sang for him, but contrary
    to what people say we did not have any quarrel.
    —Lata Mangeshkar, singer

    It is a great loss to the film industry. He was a very innovative composer and
    created a special style which both Mohamed Rafi and Asha Bhosale translated
    through their songs. He was the one who gave Asha Bhosale that style. I remember
    he gave me eight tunes for my film Kashmir Ki Kali in just four hours.
    —Shammi Kapoor, actor

    I met him while he was composing the music of Sone Ki Chidiya. Around then I had
    composed the songs for Lala Rukh but had not received the remuneration. I was
    really unhappy. He saw that and called me and asked me what the problem was. I
    told him I had not received the payment and didn’t know how I would keep my
    domestic commitments. He took me to his office and gave me Rs 500.
    — Khayyam, music composer

    > Sultan of rhythm O P Nayyar dead

    The earliest song I remember is leke pahla pahla pyaar. But did not
    really know who the MD was. The next memory is reshami salwar kurta
    jaalii ka. Then I went to Ludhiana and remember clearly when my uncle
    saw Tumsa Nahin Dekha. He saw it after the movie celebrated silver
    jubilee and they distributed ladoos and gave paper handkerchiefs withh
    the lyrics of all the songs. I wish I had kept them, not the ladoos but
    the handkerchiefs. The first movie of him that I saw was Kashmir Ki
    Kali. Wow, every song was a hit, just like Nagin’s, in my memory. Saw a
    few more and then not much.

    One of his best songs for me is bekasi had se jab guzr jaye from Kalpana.

    In Ragini 1958, there is a song chhed diye mere dil ke tar kyon by Amanat Ali and Fateh Ali. Does anybody know more about these two and whether OPN composed this one or used a pre-existing cheez or something?

    Overall, a rarity among Hindi film composers. I wish he had written his
    detailed memoirs. May his soul RIP.

    Comment by gajanan — July 11, 2008 @ 8:00 am | Reply

  1272. Purinder ji aap ki zarra nawaazi hai..hum to bus yun hi dillagi ka aalam ban rahe the.

    Is the song ‘chal udd ja by Talat? I thought it was by Rafi.

    Gajanan jee.. Great idea about the Antakshari. Your joie de vivre is infectious.

    you ended with ‘chalun’..akshar is L

    I say ‘ Leke pehla pehla pyar bhar ke aankhon me khumaar

    jaadoo nagri se aaya hai koi jaadugar

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 11, 2008 @ 9:58 am | Reply

  1273. Anand ji- Very interesting to receive your comment about Talat’s rendering of ‘Chal Udd Jaa Re Panchhi’.

    I usually find Talat’s style somewhat uni-dimensional(much as I enjoy this wonderful crooner with so many beautiful ghazals) and Mohd Rafi is my favourite male singer. In this particular song, however, Talat’s voice emotes considerably more pathos that of Rafi.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 11, 2008 @ 10:06 am | Reply

  1274. Kaveetaa ji – You are right in saying that the song “Chal ud ja re panchi” known to us, had been sung by Rafi. There is another, identical version of the same song, but sung by Talat. As the composition sounds identical, it must have also been recorded under the baton of Chitragupta.

    I recently got hold of the Talat version of this song and heard it for the first time. It was absolutely fabulous and certainly the better version.

    I have wondered why it was never used ?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 11, 2008 @ 10:18 am | Reply

  1275. A very good tribute below in the web site

    http://svnathan.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/02/kaanonse-jo-uthri-hai-dilmein-salaam-o-p-nayyar.htm

    ‘Kaanonse jo uthri hai dilmein’—– SALAAM O.P.NAYYAR

    Comment by gajanan — July 11, 2008 @ 10:40 am | Reply

  1276. Purinderji Rajinder Krishenji ka lyrics lagta hai OPN ke likha hai.

    Film Bhabhi, Music Chitragupta

    Every line is for OPN. For example
    This line is very apt for OPN lines bleow

    Gham Na Kar Jo Mehnat Tere Koi Kaam Na Aayi
    Achha Hai Kuchh Le Jaane Se Dekar Hi Kuchh Jaana

    Chal Ud Ja Re Panchhi Ke Ab Yeh Desh Hua Begaana

    Bhool Ja Ab Voh Mast Hava Voh Udna Daaali Daali
    Jag Ki Aankh Ka Kaanta Ban Gayi Chaal Teri Matwali

    Kaun Bhala Us Baag Ko Poochhe Ho Na Jiska Maali
    Teri Kismat Mein Likha Hai Jeete Ji Mar Jaana
    Chal Ud Ja Re Panchhi …

    Khatam Hue Din Us Daali Ke Jis Par Tera Basera Tha
    Aaj Yahan Aur Kal Wahan Yeh Jogi Wala Phera Tha
    Sadaa Raha Hai Is Duniya Mein Kiska Aab-O-Dana
    Chal Ud Ja Re Panchhi …

    Toone Tinka Tinka Chunkar Nagri Ek Basaai
    Baarish Mein Teri Bheegi Aankhein Dhoop Mein Garmi Khai

    Gham Na Kar Jo Mehnat Tere Koi Kaam Na Aayi
    Achha Hai Kuchh Le Jaane Se Dekar Hi Kuchh Jaana

    Chal Ud Ja Re Panchhi …

    Rote Hain Woh Pankh Pakheru Saath Tere Jo Khele
    Jinke Saath Lagaye Toone Armaanon Ke Mele
    Bheegi Ankhiyon Se Hi Unki Aaj Duaen Le Le
    Kisko Pata Ab Is Nagri Mein Kab Ho Tera Aana
    Chal Ud Ja Re Panchhi …

    This song is very popular in many NRI circles. I remember once in UK , there was group of NRI’s ( senior people) singing this song in chorus.

    Talat sings for Rafi here below

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Chal+ud+ja+re+Panchi+&hl=en&sitesearch=#

    Here below the Rafi one.
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Chal+ud+ja+re+Panchi+&hl=en&sitesearch=#

    With Bhabhi titles.
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Chal+ud+ja+re+Panchi+&hl=en&sitesearch=#

    Excellent singing by Talat. Maan gaye Purinderji. Talat’s voice has melancholy , just like when the NRI’s feel lost in foreign lands, whereas Rafi;s voice would make NRI’s feel ” Kuch Karna Chahiye Apna Desh ke liye– emotional. It depends on the way , you accept the song. It is Kamal da lyrics and Kamal da singing. These new singers should listen and learn from these great singers rather than just copy these dichku, dichku music.

    I leave the Antaksahri to someone else, but two lines must be there, not one liners….

    Comment by gajanan — July 11, 2008 @ 11:28 am | Reply

  1277. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=5zslcMFPf1k

    here is Talat ” Chal ud ja re Panchi”

    Comment by gajanan — July 11, 2008 @ 11:33 am | Reply

  1278. to begin with R..

    raaton ko chori chori bole mora kangana
    ab ke jo barkha ayee ayenge sajna..

    gajanan ji..the mukhda has to be quoted, however long its. eg this song is only this much

    Comment by Krishnan — July 11, 2008 @ 1:37 pm | Reply

  1279. Dear Gajanan ji,

    #1275 Saaz-N-Jaaz by Subramanium Vishwanathan.

    The Song ‘Main Dil Hoon Ek Armaan Bhara’ is from Anhonee filmed on Raj Kapoor music by Roshan Lal.

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 11, 2008 @ 6:25 pm | Reply

  1280. Dear Fans of OPN ji,

    1) Chain Se Humko Kabhi Aapne Jeene Na Diya – Asha
    2) Balma Khuli Hawa Mein -Asha
    3) Main Pyar Ka Rahi Hoon -Rafi & Asha

    It seems very unfortunate why such wonderful hits were not included in Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye, Kashmir Ki Kali, and Ek Musafir Ek Haseena respectively.

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 11, 2008 @ 6:41 pm | Reply

  1281. Till Monday opportunity to complete Antakshari

    Sajna ….. na… se OPN ka geet , Anybody for solutions.

    if difficult , please indicate.

    Comment by gajanan — July 12, 2008 @ 9:52 am | Reply

  1282. Gajanan ji – ‘na na na tauba tauba’ from Aar Paar

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 12, 2008 @ 1:10 pm | Reply

  1283. tauba…. chalo OPN’s yeh easy hona chahiye

    Comment by gajanan — July 12, 2008 @ 4:44 pm | Reply

  1284. Anand Ji,

    Siraj Khan Saheb can explain the situations leading to the exclusion of the two songs “Chain Se HUm Ko…… and Balma Khuli Hawa” from the movies. SK was very close to O.P. ji and their conversations appear to be very broad in nature and very personal at times.

    Hope some one can shed more light on the exclusion of Mein Pyar Ka Rahi Hoon from Ek Musafir Ek Hasina. This song is totally unique and any singer other than Asha and Rafi couldn’t have handled it.

    O.P. molded Asha into a great singer and provided a solid foundation for her career. Today, that lady has no sense of loyalty or even friendly feelings towards O.P. I guess love and hate are two sides of a coin and they are mutually exclusive.

    CU Rao Ji,

    Youtube has more songs composed by O.P. than one realizes. I always type in O.P. Nayyar in the search box of Youtube to access these songs. However, a few folks have added videos of O.P.’s works on the Youtube and either haven’t included the name of MD or mispelled O.P.’s name. As a result, one will not find these songs when searching for O.P. I found Basant songs, about 10 of them on Youtube when I typed in Basant Nutan Shammi in the search box. The description accompanying some songs had OP’s name incoreectly as OPNAIYYAR and some did not have O.P.’s name at all. Now that you have all songs of Basant (thanks to our COO), you are one more step closer to having the complete collection of O.P.’s songs. Hope you are enjoying the company of Nancy, you are my fancy.

    Dil Aur Mohabat songs on Youtube do not have O.P.’s name in the songs description so please access these by typing in the name of the movie.

    I am planning for a trip to India in December. Hope I can meet some if not all of our Sachiniti friends living in India.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 12, 2008 @ 6:17 pm | Reply

  1285. Welcome Krishna Garu to India. We will meet again.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — July 13, 2008 @ 10:52 am | Reply

  1286. Krishan garu,
    Your last item is worthy of first priority.
    Please please visit us with your family during your trip to India. Dont keep in mind we could not visit you in our trip to USA.
    You truly said that Mai pyarka rahi is unique. It was also true of most of the songs in Ek musaifr.
    Another very good song of Asha, not included in a film was : Bhool jaye dil in Hum sub chor hain.
    But where is my fancy? you tube has also given the same 10 songs which I already have.

    Comment by curao — July 13, 2008 @ 12:46 pm | Reply

  1287. #1284, Gajananji,
    I could not find exactly any song of OP beginning with chalo. The nearest I came is “Chaleho kahan….dil”

    Comment by curao — July 13, 2008 @ 12:50 pm | Reply

  1288. Hello, Can anyone tell me if there is a song by the name of Chaliyaana? Thanks

    Comment by Juven Bachan — July 14, 2008 @ 2:59 am | Reply

  1289. chalo nahi tho lo se shuru karu.

    Comment by gajanan — July 14, 2008 @ 4:46 am | Reply

  1290. NAYA DAUR – a classic reproduced in colour.

    It is interesting that the Chopras released the colour reproduction in August 2007 to coincide with the Golden Jubilee year of the original B/W release back in August 1957.

    It took them 2 1/2 years, 70 people working 8 hours/day and a budget of Rs 30 million to give Naya Daur the new look.

    The leading pair, Dilip Kumar and Vijayantimala, are still alive.

    Naya Daur bagged 3 Filmfare Awards, one of them music, of course. OP recorded 9 songs, all of them went to become hits.
    The sound of the color film was also enhanced to 5.1 stereophonic sound. Today’s composer Aadesh Shrivastav (who has been part of OP’s orchestra in his last films)did the sound mastering for the colour version to give it the “modern feel”.

    For those who have seen the colour release, may I request you to post your comments, please.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 14, 2008 @ 5:48 am | Reply

  1291. HEERA MOTI

    OP’s excels but Asha is missed terribly here

    Also check out songs of Mohabbat Zindagi Hai. The tags do not include OP Nayyar. They are by the song title. For example:

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 14, 2008 @ 7:49 am | Reply

  1292. Siraj ji,

    I have purchased a VCD from Hyderabad which contains only songs of colour Naya Daur. I felt very happy to see the OP jems in colour the sound quality is also equally good but I felt Adesh has added some extra music in one or two songs which was not necessary. Shortly I will be meeting our Curao ji at Vijayawada. He can help me in sending the songs to you and other friends.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — July 14, 2008 @ 3:05 pm | Reply

  1293. Siraj Ji,

    I wish when O.P.’s songs are put on Youtube, the tags clearly include his name so that one can find all songs of O.P. in one place. One way to see if this can be done would be to send a comment requesting that the tag for these songs be reworded. Songs of Dia Aur Mohabat, Mohabat Zindagi Hai fall under this category for now.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 14, 2008 @ 5:15 pm | Reply

  1294. Dear Krishna Baru ji,

    #1294 Songs of Heera Moti also to be included in this categeory.

    Dear Siraj ji,

    Thanks a lot for Heera Moti songs. The song sung by Rafi saheb & Dilraj Kaur ‘Hoonth Hain Tere Do Lal Heere’ is true OPN flavour.

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 14, 2008 @ 9:42 pm | Reply

  1295. Cha lo kuch OPN ka gana , hua ki nai?
    Difficult , tho Cha se kuch tho hoga. Tyr karo

    Comment by gajanan — July 17, 2008 @ 5:26 am | Reply

  1296. try karo , not tyr apologies

    Comment by gajanan — July 17, 2008 @ 5:27 am | Reply

  1297. Gajanan ji and all.

    The word Cha cha reminds me of the song by Asha from Ek Musafir Ek Hasina

    Cha Cha Cha Cha Cha Udhar Woh Chaale Chalte Hai

    Idhar Hum Jaan Lae Thay Hai

    This song can be viewed on Youtube.

    If I recollect well this song was never heard on Radio Ceylon or Vividh Bharati. I did hear this song on the Juke boxes in Iranian Tea restaurants in Hyderabad. Undoubedtly, this was the least popular song in the movie though I enjoy this song very much on par with others from E M E H.

    If this song is acceptable to continue the chain, next song can begin with
    Hai.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 17, 2008 @ 9:32 pm | Reply

  1298. Wow, considerable activity lately! Sorry I was tied up with several things over the past few months and couldn’t participate. Krishna, I got your voice mail and will call you up this weekend. I was actually just recently discharged from rehab without any recovery from my long term intoxication with OPium. They finally informed me that I cannot get rid of “Aaye hai door se” and “Kamar patli nazar bijli” from my blood. The tune, the instruments – sax, piano, obo/clarinet, violin, percussion, etc in Kamar patli is mind blowing.

    Among the Tanga songs, I believe most of them were sung by Rafi except for a few by Asha, one by Kishore, and one by Mahendra Kapoor. My favorite is by Mahendra Kapoor – O yaro ki tamanna hai. I can kill for this song, so if anybody has it please send it to me – bhemant@yahoo.com
    Thanks.

    Comment by Hemant — July 18, 2008 @ 3:51 am | Reply

  1299. Hi Hemant,

    Glad to hear from you after a long time. I have the MK song :O Yari Ki Tamanna Hai” on a 78 RPM record. I have 3-in-1 that will allow me to play the record and tape it on an audio cassette. Hopefully this will work.

    I would like to have a DVD or VCD of Kahi Din Kahi Raat. Please let me know if any one has it. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 18, 2008 @ 7:36 am | Reply

  1300. Dear friends.. hemant ji is truly intoxicated but just heady enough to sing out a memorable composition of Op ji.. am sharing it with all of you.

    hemant ji haale dil bayaan karte huye ..( look up original post end)

    Finally..finally..finally succeeded in posting an audio on the blog..am purring with delight..It opens up other plans..wow!! send it all in friends… whatever you want posted

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 18, 2008 @ 1:09 pm | Reply

  1301. Krishna garu,
    VCD of Kahi din kahi raat is freely available in CD shops. I will buy you one and keep it for you, lest they may be exhausted by the time you come.

    Comment by curao — July 18, 2008 @ 7:31 pm | Reply

  1302. Sure Hemantji,
    Your comments are most welcome, after a long time. By experience, I am of the opinion that instead of geetting rehabbed of OPIUM, we better be intoxicated more in that and forget the world and its problems for a while everyday.
    I will send yaaronki tamnna to you.

    Comment by curao — July 18, 2008 @ 8:03 pm | Reply

  1303. C U Rao Garu,

    Thanks for your prompt response to my request. Please buy and keep a copy of Kahin Din kahin Raat for me.

    We, OPiums have gelled into a well-knit group looking out for each other. This is really very encouraging. I will call you next weekend.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 18, 2008 @ 8:08 pm | Reply

  1304. Hello fellow OPIUMS, (exclusive for OPIUMS),
    I am going to make two statements.
    1. No other composer repeated himself in so many tunes and also so completely.
    2. OP did not compose “SWEET” and melodius songs such as: Yeh raat yeh chandini of Jaal, Mushkuati hai chandini of Albeli, Yeh hasta hua of Ek Jhalak, Leharonpe lehar of Chabili( to give examples of Hemant duets), Khayalonme kisike of Bawre nain, Dekho mausam kya bahar hai of Opera house, Yeh raat bhigi bhigi, Aja sanam madhur chandini of Chori Chori, chod gaye balam of Barsaat, Baharonse poochon….Nazaaronse poochon by Mukhesh_Lata of (Which film?)(To give some ex. of Mukhesh duets); Teri nigahonme-Talat_Asha of Bahana, Kya kuch aurbhi jhalak dikhlate-Talat_Asha of lala Rukh, Aasmaan wale teri-Talat_Asha of Laila Majnu. dilme samagaye of Sangdil, Samake dilme of Anhoni, and one of the best of the best of the best of all hindi songs of all time, Mohobbat ki dhun bekararonki-Talat-Sudha-Jagjit(correct me if I am wrong in the singers’ names) of Dil E Nadan (To give some ex. of Talat duets).
    Now the question is he “Did not” or “could not?”
    I welcome strong contradictions of my 2nd statement.
    Being an ardent loyal OPIUM, I hate to admit that he could not.
    Actually he did compose a few sweets by Asha and Geetha, but some how, even his fans did not even recognise them, because their expectations from OP were for a different type of tunes? Examples of such sweets are: Chand raatonko nikle, Ai dil hai deewane of Baaz, Mera kya kusur of Bade sarkar, aha ha ha jawani of Bade Sarkar, Ja ja ja bewafa of aarpaar, Kuch kuch hone laga of Dhakeki mal mal, Aaj maine jana mera dil hai of Farishta, Bol pardesia of Mangu and lastly, one of my most enduring favourites, Ajab hamari hai zindagani.. Kabhi andhera Kabhi ujala.
    I mentioend only some of his hidden gems, which are rarely heard and rarely mentioned.
    Another reason for his not going in that sweet direction more often than he did might be “There was no Latha”. And also his rhythms pace and orchestra did not suit that type of songs.
    Well, any way, the facts were such. That is the only reason for my placing him 2nd behind SJ. Other wise he excelled all others in many many ways.
    Dear Khansaheb,
    pl. direct us to carry forward your idea of collecting in one place all such rare and hiden gems under the banner “UNKNOWN BUT UNFORGETTABLES”. PART OF THE REASON FOR MY LISTING THOSE SONGS IS JUST TO RECALL TO FELLOW OPIUMS THAT THERE ARE SUCH SONGS WHICH ARE NOT OFTEN MENTIONED, if at all.
    I invite all to Pl. repudiate, and refute me in what I said.

    Comment by curao — July 20, 2008 @ 12:10 pm | Reply

  1305. Yes , acceptable now “Hai”. some more time given.

    Comment by gajanan — July 21, 2008 @ 9:13 am | Reply

  1306. Time ho haya , I will give the answer

    Kashmir ki Kali
    Music By O. P. Nayyar
    Lyrics By S.H. Bihari
    Performed by Mohammad Rafi

    Hai Duniyaan Useekee Jamaanaa Useekaa
    Mohabbat Mein Jo Ho Gayaa Ho Kisee Kaa

    Lootaa Jo Musaafir, Dil Ke Safar Mein
    Hai Jannat Ye Duniyaan Usakee Najar Mein
    Usee Ne Hain Lootaa Majaa Jindagee Kaa

    Hai Sajade Ke Kabil Har Wo Deewaanaa
    Ke Jo Ban Gayaa Hain Tasaweer-ye-jaanaa
    Karo Yehataraam Usakee Diwaanagee Kaa

    Barabaad Honaa Jisakee Adaa Ho
    Dard-ye-mohabbat Jisakee Dawaan Ho
    Sataayegaa Kyaa Gam Use Jindagee Kaa

    Now Kaa se start karo . Mushkil hai tho let us see.

    Comment by gajanan — July 23, 2008 @ 12:10 pm | Reply

  1307. ka hin pe nigahein , ka hin pe nishana… from CID.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — July 23, 2008 @ 7:13 pm | Reply

  1308. Nayyar sahab was a doyen of Indian music. A phenomenom that perhaps will never occur again. We have been fortunate to have lived in an era blessed by his presence and his unprecedented music. His music is timeless and immortal. He may have departed us in body but his music will live on forever in our hearts.

    Regards

    Comment by Poison Blunt — July 25, 2008 @ 7:27 pm | Reply

  1309. Nishana …. Na se shuru ho jao.
    Time till Monday ….

    Comment by gajanan — July 26, 2008 @ 11:36 am | Reply

  1310. Hi friends,

    Kahin Pe Nigahen Kahin Pe Nishana

    kahee pe nigaahe, kahee pe nishaanaa
    jeene do jaalim banaao naa deewaanaa

    koee naa jaane iraade hain kidhar ke
    maar naa denaa teer najar kaa, kisee ke jigar me
    naajook ye dil hai, bachaanaa o bachaanaa

    tobaa jee tobaa, nigaaho kaa machalanaa
    dekh bhaal ke aye dilawaalo, pahaloo badalanaa
    kaafeer adaa kee adaa hain masataanaa

    jakhmee hain tere jaaye to kahaa jaaye
    tere teer ke maare huye dete hain sadaayen
    kar do jee ghaayal tumhaaraa hain jamaanaa

    aayaa shikaaree o panchhee too sanbhal jaa
    yek jaal hain julfonkaa too chupake se nikal jaa
    ud jaa o panchhee shikaaree hain deewaanaa

    If it’s difficult to find a song that starts with Nishana,
    can we start with Dewaanaa.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 27, 2008 @ 8:07 am | Reply

  1311. Hi Friends,

    You can see a video clip of the song “Kahin Pe Nigahen Kahin Pe Nishana” on Youtube. You will have to search by the title of the song or just Nishana. The description or the tab that accompanies this song does not name the music director so if you search for O.P. Nayyar, you will not find this song.

    Murty ji,

    Thanks for continuing the chain by coming up with this song.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 27, 2008 @ 8:22 am | Reply

  1312. Dear Friends (specially Shishir Krishna Sharma, Purinder, Curao and Krishna Baru Ref 1112-1115). Where there is a will, there is a way! For those who haven’t done it yet, get hold of the July edition of SOCIETY, where Shamshad Begum makes a rare appearance in front of the world, at my request. There are people who are seeing a picture of the singer, the first time ever, at her age of 89. OP’s picture there has been given by me.

    #1222 The Taanga comes to a halt
    I find this strange. OP has come to be known as the Taanga King and yet I have documented only 15 to-date on that beat. 15 songs in the entire career looks too low to me to get that reputation. There must be more.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 27, 2008 @ 4:56 pm | Reply

  1313. Siraj ji,
    I think i did my bit on taanga songs, #1232 and 1233. I thought others should have the satisfaction of participation. I could find one more song while delving into my collection, which was perhaps not already mentioned by others. “Ajare aja lare piya”-Asha-Musafirkhana. But I think there are not many more.
    continuing the antyakshari with ‘NA”,
    Na inka rang asli hai- Na inka roop…
    Start with “roop” next
    I think we have not properly appreciated Bade sarkar songs. I also recently got them and really some of them are just great.
    Ahan ha ha jawani jhumthi hai by Asha, Mera kya kusur by Asha, Jahan jahan khayal aata hai by Rafi_Asha(?). I did not know they even existed till I got them.
    Krishna ji,
    you and others have been mentioning about some songs, especially duets in Do Ustad. Another very good duet is “Tere dilka makaan saiyyan bada Alishan” by Rafi_Asha. and also Tu ladki mai ladka is not bad.

    Comment by curao — July 27, 2008 @ 7:33 pm | Reply

  1314. Yes , Deewana will do , as you have writen the full song.

    Hum saab OPIUM ke Deewaane Hai

    OPIUM tho yaad aa gaya , Amitav Ghosh ka Sea of poppies ka novel. He has written that Mumbai was built by British by sales of opium of course to further the interests of East India Trading company.

    See here we are discussing about OPIUM songs and lo Mumbai was built on OPIUM sales likta hai Amitav Ghosh. Kya baat hai.

    Agar Mumbai bana OPIUM ki sales se
    Tho hum baan gaye OPIUM, OPN ke gane se.

    Comment by gajanan — July 28, 2008 @ 5:46 am | Reply

  1315. Hi Fellow OPimus,

    Please check out this interesting article on O.P. and Rafi.

    http://keralaarticles.blogspot.com/2007/08/op-nayyars-immortal-relationship-with.html

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 28, 2008 @ 6:48 am | Reply

  1316. Hi Fellow OPiums,

    Please check this interesting article on OP and Rafi Saheb.

    http://keralaarticles.blogspot.com/2007/08/op-nayyars-immortal-relationship-with.html

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 28, 2008 @ 6:54 am | Reply

  1317. Na inka rang asli hai- Na inka roop…
    Curaoji,

    Jara aur ek line aur ho jai. Kay yeh Bade Sarkar ka geet hai. If right then we will continue with ” roop”. Jara more details. Dont worry Curaoji yeh reality show nahi hai. You can take your won time and pour your OPN knowledge when you have time.

    Comment by gajanan — July 28, 2008 @ 7:54 am | Reply

  1318. THE TANGA COMES TO A HALT…………….

    No Song Singers Film

    1 Aja Re Aja Na Sata re PiyaAsha & chorus Choo Mantar
    2 Piya Piya Piya Kahe Hamay Asha / Kishore K Baap re Baap
    3 Mang ke Saath Tumhara Asha / Rafi Naya Daur
    4 Eent ki Dukki Paan ka Ikka Rafi Howrah Bridge
    5 Chal Beta Left Chal beta Right RafiDo Dilon Ki Dastan
    6 Such Kehta Hoon Bohat Asha / Rafi Jaali Note
    7 Yaron Ki Tamanna Hai Mahendra K Kahin Din Kahin Raat
    8 Zara Haule Haule Chalo More Asha Sawan Ki Ghata
    9 Yun To Humne Lakh Haseen Rafi Tumsa Naheen Dekha
    10 Aji Pehli Mulaqat Mein Asha / Rafi Do Dilon Ki Dastan
    11 Khubsoorat Sathi Itna Baat Asha / Kishore K Aqalmand
    12 Banda Parwar Thaam Lo Rafi Phir Wahi Dil Laya Hoon
    13 Tumhari Mulaqat Se Rafi Mohabbat Zindagi hai
    14 Chal Mere Ghorray Chal Chal M. Aziz Nischay

    Surely they must be more….OP has not been associated with the ghora gari clip clop on the basis of these 14 only. So we need to please search and research more.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — July 29, 2008 @ 1:56 am | Reply

  1319. Good list Siraj. I’m sure there are more – now I wont sleep until I find out.

    #11 and 13 are not ghoda gadi songs. It has the guitar chords that may sound like ghoda gadi.

    Comment by Hemant — July 29, 2008 @ 9:41 am | Reply

  1320. Hi friends,
    I saw the movie “Bahare Phir Bhi Aaiyegi” over the weekend – it’s one of the movie that I watch every once in a while without getting bored. I think the black and white print makes it even better. Of all the songs I feel “Dil tu pahele he se madhosh hai matwala” is most underrated. Can somebody shed some light on the making of this movie. I believe it started in 1962 but since Guru Dutt died, his brother Atma Ram took over and completed it to be released in 1965 or 1966. Any idea when the songs were recorded – before or afer Guru’s death? Also was Guru Dutt planning to do the main character or did he pick Dharmendra? Any other details?

    Comment by Hemant — July 29, 2008 @ 9:57 am | Reply

  1321. Dear Friends,

    If ever any voice came close to Lata’s voice it is none other than the voice of Suman Kalyanpur. There are many songs sung by her which people mistake to be Lata’s voice.

    OPN could have easily opted for Suman Kalyanpur if he had any diffrences with Lata. But it seems Lata and alikes were not his cup of tea.

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 29, 2008 @ 8:14 pm | Reply

  1322. Siraj ji, please see my post 1254 for more Tanga songs.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — July 29, 2008 @ 9:11 pm | Reply

  1323. Hemant ji,

    I found the following note on Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi when I was reading an article on Guru Dutt.

    The movie started with starring Guru Dutt in main lead. However, had to be replaced by Dharmendra and the movie re-shot due to demise of Guru Dutt.

    I believe Guru Dutt wanted SD to compose music for this movie but subsequent to Guru’s demise, his brother eased out SD and brought back O.P.

    Dil Tu Pahele he se madhosh… certainly an under-rated song. I play this repeatedly and enjoy it. Asha’s solo Who Hanske Ke Mile Hum Pyar Samaj.. is so moving that Asha herself confessed that she cried at the time of taping. This song is just great. It’s amazing how OP ji could come up with such haunting melodies.

    A few other observations about this movie:

    MK’s tile song which was a super hit was very much over-rated. I thought Rafi’s solo was much better but for some reason MK’s song was a hit.

    Basking in the glory following the success of the title song, OP appeared for Berkley Cigarettes advertisement. OP was quoted as saying that smoking Berkeley cigs gave me the inspiration and mood to score the hit song.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 30, 2008 @ 7:52 am | Reply

  1324. A small correction. MK’s tile song should read as MK’s title song. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — July 30, 2008 @ 7:54 am | Reply

  1325. # 1319 – The only other Tanga song that I can think of is “Yeh kya kar dala toone” by Asha from Howrah Bridge.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 30, 2008 @ 4:03 pm | Reply

  1326. Gajananji,
    #your 1318:
    Na inka rang asli hai – Na inka roop asli hai-Yeh Bombai hai – Haseenon ki – yahan har cheez nakli hai: That was the full mukhda. by Rafi and chorus. This is another song I got recently from one of our OPIUMS, and is credited to Taxi Driver of OP. I did not see the film my self and I dont have personal knowldege if that was true or not. The last word of this full mukhda is “hai”. which has already come. that was the reason i stopped at “roop”.
    My mention of Bade sarkar, in the next para has nothing to do with this song. It was inadvertently coinicdental. I just wanted to mention that Bade Sarkar has some great songs, which I myself never knew. Besides, the three songs I mentioned there, there is another pleasant song by Asha “Jab hum tum dono raji”. These 4 are the only songs of Bade sarkar I got from that friend.
    Siraj ji, in #1319:
    You left out the greatest and ‘taangi”est of taanga songs: Yeh bombay meri jaan. Was it not a taanga song? After all most of the song was sung on a tanga and also the beat was there.
    Purinderji has also reminded us of Yeh kyakar dala tune of Howrah bridge.

    Comment by curao — July 30, 2008 @ 7:09 pm | Reply

  1327. Krishna ji,
    Is the song “cha cha cha” you mentioned earlier, from Ek musafir, there in the film? or was it also cut out? I did not find it in the VCD I got. any way I will search again.
    BTW, Kajra mohobbat wala of Kismat, a most unforgettably crafted song of OP ever, is posted in you tube.
    VCDs of Pran jaye, color Naya daur, Bahare phir bhi, mohobbat Zindagi, and Fagun are now available in CD shops. Pl. let me know if you want any of these.

    Comment by curao — July 30, 2008 @ 7:22 pm | Reply

  1328. Can some expert clarify this to me?:
    In Naya Daur, the song “Saathi haath badhana”, as I distinctly remember was over 6 min song. I used to have its 78 rpm record also with the song on both sides. The mukhda of first part ending with “saathi hath badhana sathire”. The mukhda of the 2nd side ends with “Saathi hath rehana sathire”.
    But, the VCD of the color version I have now shows only the first part. Is my memory playing such a big trick or is the 2nd part removed? I heard that song perhaps 100s of times, both sides. Was it something I dreamt?
    I will be grateful if someone clarifies this.

    Comment by curao — July 30, 2008 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

  1329. OPiums have acknowledged the orginality of OPN and his Tanga music. But the number seems to be less as so many have said. No problems. Let is stretch our imagination and let it run in joy.

    Have you seen the Black Stallion, a Coppola film. The Ghoda ( BLack Stallion) moves in slow motion and the way it was captured in slow motion , it was sheer poetry in action. Music was also good.

    So move over Beethoven, Mozart and others and let us rewind the Black Stallion. Place Biswajit on the Black Stallion and restart the original ( no remixing allowed, not even bhoolchukse) OPN song ” Jayee aap kahana Jayege, Yeh Nazar… ” Let it all be in slow motion. Asha Parekh standing on the beach and slowly moving around and singing ” Jayee… ” It requires a bit of imagination and fine it will be super duper hit. It will be great tribute to OPN. Tho the Ghoda will be there , tanga na sahi. All in slow motion , with the essence and creativity of OPN intact.

    Chalo!!! Any more ideas for OPN songs for the Tanga and Ghoda to be incorporated.

    Comment by gajanan — July 31, 2008 @ 6:19 am | Reply

  1330. Dear Purinder ji,

    #1273
    Talat Mahmood was indeed one of the finest singers. No other singer is able to match the intensity of ‘Kanpan’ that he had. In fact if you see the early movies of Fiftees,you will notice that he had sung very beautifully for Dilip Kumar, Raj Kapoor and Dev Anand. His voice was mostly used for tragic songs. In fact with his playback Dilip Kumar on screen became Tragedy King, but off screen too he went through lot of depression. At last doctors had to advice him to avoid Tragic Roles and Talat songs. Such was the impact of Talat’s voice that it made people weep seeing Dilip Kumar with his playback in Devdas songs. Particularly the songs –

    Kisko Khabar Thi Kisko Yakeen Tha Aise Bhi Din
    Aayenge. (Devdas)

    Mitwa Lagi Yeh Kaisi Anbujh Aag (Devdas)

    Aye Dil Mujhe Aisi Jagah Le Chal Jahan Koi Na Ho. (Arzoo)

    Aye Mere Dil Kahin Aur Chal (Daag)

    Koi Nahin Mera Is Duniya Mein (Daag)

    Mera Jeevan Sathi Bichad Gaya Lo Khatam Kahani Ho Gayi (Babul)

    Sham-E-Gham Ki Kasam Aaj Tanha Hain Hum (Footpath)

    Seene Mein Sulagte Hain Armaan (Tarana)

    Duniya Badal Gayi Meri Duniya Badal Gayi (Babul)

    He shared some beautiful songs with Mohd.Rafi

    Gham Ki Andheri Raat Mein Dil Ko Na Bekarar Kar (Susheela)

    Kaisi Haseen Aaj Baharon Ki Raat Hai (Aadmi)

    But the later song was deleted and again resung by Rafi and Mahendra Kapoor because Manoj Kumar thought that Mahendra Kapoor suited him well instead of Talat.Somehow Mahendra Kapoor also did full justice to this song.

    In Fact Talat’s songs are gems but lack poor recording quality of those days. But if you get to listen these songs in New Revivals – It is Double Delight.

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 31, 2008 @ 8:53 pm | Reply

  1331. Toady is Mohd Rafi’s 28th death anniversary. Rafi and OP Nayyar created innumerable hits. These included songs from Tumsa Nahee Dekha, Kashmir Ki Kali, Phir Whi Dil Laya hoon, Ek Musafir Ek Hasina, and many other films. In fact the films were successful because of the songs. OP Nayyar once said if there was no Mohd Rafi, there would have been no OP Nayyar. Mohd Rafi and OP Nayyar are greatly missed today.

    Comment by Asif — August 1, 2008 @ 5:47 am | Reply

  1332. Asif Saheb,

    Thanks for reminding us that today is Mohd. Rafi’s 28th death anniversary. O.P. and Rafi were a great team and they produced so many haunting melodies. It’s true without Rafi, there wouldn’t have been any O.P. Nayyar. We miss both of them.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 1, 2008 @ 6:45 am | Reply

  1333. Yes, Rafi and OPN what a combination. Rare, very rare.

    Comment by gajanan — August 1, 2008 @ 9:02 am | Reply

  1334. Dear Murthy

    please provode your address or speak to me prakash mool bharathi 9845123335

    Comment by GN Murthy — August 1, 2008 @ 4:18 pm | Reply

  1335. Krishna garu,
    just as you aptly named us “OPIUMS”, we are also(At least most of us including me) are also “RAFIANS”

    Comment by curao — August 1, 2008 @ 7:39 pm | Reply

  1336. Rao sahib – ‘Rafians’ sounds dangerously close to ‘ruffians’ to be comfortable. What says you?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 1, 2008 @ 9:36 pm | Reply

  1337. Dear OPIUMS

    We should seriously activate the thought process NOW to plan OP events in various cities that we live in, to commemorate his 2nd Death Anniversary (end-June, early Feb 2009 time frame).

    Indeed, it takes several months to put a quality event together. Let me just say that people in Pune and Delhi have already set things in motion.

    Otherwise, we would be just reading the posts and exchanging emails here, as we are doing for Rafi right now.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 3, 2008 @ 3:58 am | Reply

  1338. Sorry. I meant end-Jan, early Feb 2009

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 3, 2008 @ 4:01 am | Reply

  1339. #1305 Post from my friend Curao

    Let me first share my personal reaction on reading it, before I go into the technicalities involved behind my response.

    I am still not sure whether I was more surprised or disappointed by the contents. Actually, if it was coming from somebody less knowledgeable than Curao (sp on OP)I would have disregarded it and brushed it away, thinking that some of you would probably respond, as Curao seemed to have wanted that. I notice that nobody did, so here is the devil’s advocate speaketh.

    Every composer has his/her own style (“her” only because of Usha Khanna). While OP’s music flows in my veins, my all time TOP3 do not feature OP and Asha at all. I am not sure why those impressive songs were listed there as artwork, which OP was incapable of creating.

    It would be totally incorrect to say that he repeated himself like nobody else. What Curao and many others call “repeat” was basically OP’s style, his signature, his trademark, by which we have come to recognize him. Historically, “repeats’ do not become popular and if OP had repeated as it was written, then his songs would make you tired not pep you up. I started to list just the Tanga songs, which ran into 14 and with others added about 20 and we could easily start a new debate on which of them was more popular than the others.

    The other allegation is more serious – that he could not compose sweet and melodious songs. I recall once talking to OP on Veer Zara tracks – the recreation of Madan Mohan tunes from the archives by his son Sanjeev Kohli. I asked him whether he too has some tunes hidden somewhere in his treasure box. He laughed aloud on that preposterous thought. He said that at any given time RD Burman used to have about 2000 tunes rolling in his mind or tapes. OP was very spontaneous and focused. When he used to sit down and compose, what he had in mind at that time was a specific situation for a specific film. No boiler-plate tunes to pick out from the cookie jar which he would try/experiment to fit in for this film or that. And when he was on that track, compositions just flowed one after another. There were sometimes 7/8 in one day. Asha has written extensively about going for OP recordings after breakfast and home for lunch (picking up her daughter from school on the way)after singing some of the best songs of her singing career with OP’s usual 70 piece orchestra, sometimes in one take. This was OP and his brilliance.

    For OP’s list of sweet melodies, which will blow all others away, you will have to stay tuned. Coming up in my next post.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 3, 2008 @ 5:21 am | Reply

  1340. RAFOPIANS, Purinder will do.

    Khan keep going in full steam about OPN
    Good luck to all in your endeavours for the 2nd Anniversary.

    Comment by gajanan — August 3, 2008 @ 5:56 am | Reply

  1341. Good web site on Rafi.
    http://www.mohdrafi.com/
    There is a request in the web site for articles on Rafi by his grandson Rashid Rafi. Please visit this web site and you could write here for OPN/ Rafi magic. Here Purinderji the fans of Rafi are called Rafians. Please look at the web site. So OPN wirh Rafi should be RAFOPIANS. Maan gaye … If not apka suggestion kya hai.

    Comment by gajanan — August 3, 2008 @ 12:04 pm | Reply

  1342. A sample of OP’s SWEET MELODIES (a MEMORY-JOGGER FOR CURAO)

    1. Yahi woh jagah hai yahi woh fizaen
    2. Woh hans ke mile hamse, ham pyar samaj bethe
    3. Mein shayad tumhare liye ajnabi hoon
    4. Phir miloge kabhi is baat ka waada karlo
    5. Aap yoon hee agar hamse milte rahe
    6. Chein se humko kabhi aap ne jeene na diya
    7. Ja Ja Ja Ja Bewafa, Kaisa pyar kaisy preet re
    8. Poocho na hamen hum unke liye kya kya nazrane
    9. Pyar par bus to nahee hai mera lekin phir bhee
    10.Meri jaan tumke sadqe ehsaan itna kardo

    These don’t feature only Asha. OP has used a diverse array of singers almost effortlessly.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 3, 2008 @ 12:05 pm | Reply

  1343. Gajanan ji : my remark about Rafians and ruffians was actually ‘tongue in cheek’. You have given it much more attention than it deserves.

    Remember ” That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet”.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 3, 2008 @ 12:36 pm | Reply

  1344. OPiums, OPiums!
    It’s 1.45 AM and I just can’t get over with listening to “Kamar Patli Nazer Bijli.” The sax, flue, clarinet, piano, percussion, etc. and the way Nayyar sahib made MK sing this song. I think the movie was released in 1967 and with such hit songs why was our man quiet for the next 4 years? Please, please somebody tell me why this could not be Nayyar’s come back? Siraj, Krishna Crao, Gajanan, Purander, Murti? This song appeared in the movie called “Rajnigandha” in a scene when Amol Palakar goes to see a movie. Part of the music in this song makes me wonder if the background music of Rajnigandha was based on the music of this song. Any idea? Also, Siraj, did you ever discuss with Nayyar sahib on his take on his music in this movie?

    Comment by Hemant — August 4, 2008 @ 12:18 pm | Reply

  1345. Hemant ji – “Kamar Patli Nazer Bijli” is from Kahin din kahin raat, probably released in 1968. The same year saw the release of Humsaya, Kismat and perhaps CID 909 refelecting OP’s music was still in demand.

    That period [1969/1970],in many ways was a defining period for Indian movies. One saw the fade out of the old superstars coinciding with the meteoric rise of Rajesh Khanna, Dharmendra & Amitabh Bachchan. Simultaneously, the music and lyrics that had a relevance in the 50s & the 60s were drowned in the louder and more boisterous music of RD Burman and L-P. That period also signalled the begining of the end for OP and his music. OP came back with stunners like Sambandh and Ek baar muskura do, but it was a bit too little , too late.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 4, 2008 @ 3:44 pm | Reply

  1346. Kaveetaa ji – no inputs from you. Are you still around, taking care of all of us, or have you left us to our own devices ?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 4, 2008 @ 3:56 pm | Reply

  1347. Purinder ji.. I am right here..as always 🙂 No question of me deserting you all.

    Hemant ji has rightly addressed his query to the more knowledgeable ones. I am just an op deewaani, not a encyclopaedia on his life and times like all you respected ‘vidwaans’ here.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — August 4, 2008 @ 4:09 pm | Reply

  1348. Kaveetaa ji – that was a quick response from you. But, to be called a ‘vidwaan’,although musical to one’s ears, does stretch reality and facts a wee bit!!

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 4, 2008 @ 5:05 pm | Reply

  1349. Purinder. Sahi kaha aapne. You have Vidwath ( knowledge).

    Comment by gajanan — August 5, 2008 @ 6:10 am | Reply

  1350. Purinderji,
    Yes , Rafians is dangerously close to ruffians and perhaps not apt to describe ourselves , all erudite people. It was just a pssing, spontaneously intended pun.
    All my friends here, pl. ignore it . It is in a bad taste on 2nd thoughts.

    Comment by curao — August 5, 2008 @ 7:04 pm | Reply

  1351. Sach Kaha Hai Doston

    Rafi Sahab Ne Ajab Kanth Paya Hai

    Amar Rehega Har Woh Gana Inhon Ne Jo Gaya Hai

    Rafians – Please download and hear as many rare songs of Rafi Saheb till 31st August 2008 on Indian Screen.com

    A must hear LAST composition of Rafi & Naushad

    Jis Raat Ke Khawab Aaye – Muhammad Rafi on You Tube.com

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 5, 2008 @ 7:38 pm | Reply

  1352. Dear Siraj ji,
    Honestly,I have been waiting for contradictions on that post, especially from knowledgeable people like you.
    If it was really my opinion that OP had those lacunae, to a significant extent, I would not have invited contradictions.
    Actually, what I said about his two shortcomings, namely, his repetitions and inability to compose sweet songs, were criticisms leveled at him by SJ fans among my friends of those days. I used to argue with them but could not convince them.
    The first charge that he repeats, is a small one and partially true. There are a few total repetitions of tunes besides some similar sounding notes in a few other songs, no more than others. Ex. are as you perhaps know more, Humdum mere-saajan mere, sun sun madrski chori-Ude jab jab julphen, and a few others can be found.
    But the more important one is that: Did he and could compose sweet songs. My own opinion coincides with you. Only, his sweet songs were of a different genre.
    we can cite many more besides your list. Bahut Shukriya of Ek musafir, Haath aaya hai. Tumhara chahne wala of Kahi din, the title song of Kabhi Andhera, Jhuka jhuka hai of Miss coca cola, Udhar tum hasin ho of Mr. and Mrs. Maangke saath tumhara and so on umpteen nos. of songs.
    And as you rightly said, every composer, has his own style and preferences. I used to argue ” Can you imagine SJ composing Babuji dhire chalnas, Ankhon hi ankhonses, Yeh reshmis, intki tukkis, Chal Akelas etc. Of course such arguments are in the realms of specualtion only.
    Still, just like you, Whatever may be relative talents, Nayyar flows in my blood too and at any given time i always like to hear a Nayyar song rather than others’. In my imagination, I still feel like arguing with them with the support of all of our OPIUMS

    Comment by curao — August 5, 2008 @ 8:15 pm | Reply

  1353. #1345 – Attn Hemant et al

    I think Purinder has responded very aptly.

    I agree Kamar Patli is a super duper number. Can’t get MK to do any better than this. There is a lot of in-built melody in the composition and MK has made it very lilting. I consider KDKR as perhaps the most productive movie purely from OP/MK perspective.

    With 5 hit films in 1968, I really don’t know what comeback is being referred to here. We are talking of Kismat, Humsaya, KDKR and the very best Dil aur Mohabbat coming back to back all packed with some wonderful creations.

    sorry, I have nothing to add on the Rajnigandha connection.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 6, 2008 @ 6:20 am | Reply

  1354. A question to all you Opiums.

    Can you articulate in 3 lines or less why you find OP Nayyar’s music appealing. I tried to answer this question and found it to be much tougher to answer than I presumed. Anyway, for me :
    1. OP’s music is the by far the ‘happiest’ music that I have heard from Indian movies- almost always makes me feel energised and good.
    2. ALL His singers ( with the possible exception of Mahendra Kapoor) sound as if they are putting in something extra. Or maybe, OP had the ability to extract that little bit more from his singers or maybe they just had a lot of fun singing OP’s compositions.
    3.Almost ALL of his compositions are beautifully ‘crafted’ with the western and Indian instruments blending and fusing like no other music that I know of- and the end result is vivacious to the ear, if such a thing is possible.

    What’s your take on this, dear Opiums ??

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 6, 2008 @ 4:16 pm | Reply

  1355. 1. Tharif karo OPN sahab ki
    Jisne aasi Sangeeth banaya.
    2. Hamahe na milege aasi Khushi yaro
    Hai OPN ko Mubarak, bhaje lakho shehnai.
    3. Hamara Chahanewala , Khuda ki Duniya me.
    khudaa naa kare, dubara koyi OPN ko Nakal
    Kare.

    Antakshari ke badle me , this sounds better, Purinderji.

    Comment by gajanan — August 7, 2008 @ 11:29 am | Reply

  1356. Dear Purinder ji,

    #1355

    Mahendra Kapoor is also a GEM in his own style. He has neumorous songs to his credit which we can’t imagine for another singer.OPN also judged his talent before giving him a chance. The result is history –

    Aankhon Mein Quayamat Ke Kaajal – Kismat

    Lakhon Hain Yahaan Dilwale Aur Pyaar Nahin Milta – Kismat

    Haath Aaya Hai Jabse Tera Haath Mein – Dil Aur Mohabbat

    Kahan Se Laayi Ho Janeman Yeh Gulabi Chehra Sharabi Aakhen – Dil Aur Mohabbat

    O Yaaron Ki Tamanna Hai – Kahin Din Kahin Raat

    Jo Diya Tha Tumne Ek Din ( A very beautiful combination of father & son’s relation – sung by Mahendra Kapoor & Hemant Kumar ) – Sambandh

    The list is endless.

    Apart from OPN , He has sung for all famous music directors like Naushad, Laxmi-Pyare, R.D.Burman, Kalyanji Anandji, Vasant Desai,etc etc and many more.

    Mahendra Kapoor has sung some hit songs for Dilip Kumar, Manoj Kumar, Rajendra Kumar, Rajesh Khanna, Jeetendra, etc etc and many more. He still considers Rafi as his guru.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 7, 2008 @ 8:24 pm | Reply

  1357. Yeh Ramachandra keh gya siya se , aaisa Kaljug aayega , kowa moti kayega.

    This is an outstanding song sung my MK for Dilip Kumar in Gopi in a very Gujjubhai-Kalaynjibhai Anandjibhai style.

    Dilip’s sophistication in this song is a lesson for all the Khans and others in Bollywood. These fellows lack the ada of Dilip Kumar.

    Comment by gajanan — August 8, 2008 @ 4:48 am | Reply

  1358. Anand ji – it is very interesting to read your views about Mahendra Kapoor. I fully agree that MK has sung many memorable songs . In particular his songs from Gumrah must rate among the very best of the 60s. My views were limited to MK singing for OP. One gets the feeling that MK tried hard to ‘replicate’ the Rafi style ,perhaps sub-consciously. It is also possible that OP, the towering personality that he was in the recording room, pushed MK into the Rafi mode. The eventual result is not so good, specially if one bench-marks him against the ‘real thing, namely Mohd. Rafi.

    Having said this, I think that there is one exception and that is MK songs in Sambandh. They were really outstanding. Sambandh, in my opinion was truly a special movie as far as songs are concerned, and I plan to share my thoughts in the near future, in a separate post.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 8, 2008 @ 1:05 pm | Reply

  1359. On MK and OP:
    While confining to OP-MK combination, I think OP tried to exact the melody in MK’s voice and in the process gave him songs , a bit different from those he gave to Rafi. Tumhara chahnewala, Badi mushkilse, Haath aaya hai, Bahare phir bhi, and a some others of that type gave Mk a great chance to sing his heart out to satisfy OP and audience. We can only speculate how Rafi would have sung them, but such type of songs were not given to Rafi. It was a much more mature OP who was trying to compose sweet melodies by the time MK came.
    Any way, the results are not in any way regrettable. No, definitely not.
    This is just my personal opinion only.

    Comment by curao — August 10, 2008 @ 12:54 pm | Reply

  1360. Many many happy returns of the day CURAO ji on your birthday (12th Aug).

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry

    Comment by G N MURTY — August 12, 2008 @ 8:34 pm | Reply

  1361. C U Rao Ji,

    Although I am a day late, please allow me to wish you a Belated Happy Birthday.
    Hope you had a special birthday celebration. I will try to call you later.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 13, 2008 @ 6:16 am | Reply

  1362. Murty Ji,

    Thanks for sharing the secret in respect to C U Rao Ji’s birthday.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 13, 2008 @ 6:19 am | Reply

  1363. Rao ji..Many Happy Returns of The day..Heres praying this year is one of wish fulfillment with plenty of peace and prosperity coming your way.

    Regards

    Kaveetaa

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — August 13, 2008 @ 11:26 am | Reply

  1364. Dear C U Rao ji,

    Sau Saal Jeo Tum Jaan Meri
    Tumhen Meri Umariya Lag Jaye

    Dedicating this OPN song to you from Heera Moti with lots of love and respects . Sorry for being late due to link failure becoz of heavy rains in Calcutta.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 13, 2008 @ 10:54 pm | Reply

  1365. An OPIUM question….

    Can we make a list of OP songs which were eventually not included in the film for which they were recorded. I can think of two right now:

    1. Balma Khuli Hawa Mein
    2. Chein Se Hum Ko Kabhi

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 14, 2008 @ 5:17 am | Reply

  1366. Happy Independance Day, everyone.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 14, 2008 @ 5:19 am | Reply

  1367. Siraj,
    Here are three more that were not included in the film:
    1. Main pyar ka rahi hon
    2. Aaja mere pyar ke sahare kabhi kabhi
    3. Hoton pe hasin aankhon main nasha

    Comment by Hemant — August 14, 2008 @ 8:19 pm | Reply

  1368. #1346
    Purandarji
    I think your insight into the late sixties and early seventies is correct in analyzing how OP faded out. SJ also experienced the same fate as OP did with only a few films on hand like Dil daulat aur duniya, ankhon ankhon main, Mera naam joker, lal patthar, andaz, etc. Some of these had good music thouth but the new generation of MDs and actors had taken over. One exception I must mention is Kalyanji Anandji. They had super hits along with LP and RD. Examples: Saccha Jutha, Safar, Quarbani, Victoria 203, Choril mera kaam, Ghaar ghaar ki kahani, Johny Mera naam, etc (oh I love that song Hushne Ke lakhon raang – wonderful tune, guitar chords, vocals, composition). But OP was no less with Dekho raja deho, bikanar ki chunri, dekho dilbar, etc. I think OP’s demise may be due to his people skills or lack of? I hope I’m not opening a can of worms.

    Comment by Hemant — August 15, 2008 @ 8:32 am | Reply

  1369. Craoji,
    Happy belated 40th!
    I hope you had a good birthday and hope your family let you listen to your favorite Nayyar songs all day. You can blame it on me if they were not happy about your putting on Nayyar songs all day. You can tell them that Cancerians and Geminis have common music interest and that Nayyar is the common factor.

    Comment by Hemant — August 15, 2008 @ 8:40 am | Reply

  1370. #1365
    Anandji,
    Perfect song!
    Any idea what happened to Dilraj Kaur?

    Comment by Hemant — August 15, 2008 @ 8:45 am | Reply

  1371. Hemantji,

    Your comment that Cancerians and Geminis have a common music interest and that Nayyar is the common denominator seems to be valid at least in my case. I am a Cancerian and I love music, mostly O.P. creations. In respect to Kalyanji-Anandji, it’s true they have quite a few hits to their credit. When O.P. and later SJ were riding high, KA was relegated to a secondary role. These two musicians-one team never attained glory, recognition, and status on par with OP, SD, SJ, LP, and RD. Also, please do not forget Kalyanji started giving music in 1960s. Earlier Kalyanji was a part of the team Kalyanji-Veerji. KA’s music style was very much similar to SJ and this similarity might have hurt KA. I hope folks such as, Sishir Sharma, Anand Berry, Gajanan, Purinder, Siraj Khan, and CU Rao would like to add some spice to my comments on Kalyanji-Anandji.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 15, 2008 @ 9:57 am | Reply

  1372. Krishna Baru ji,

    Happy independence day to you and all friends of Sachiniti.

    I think Kalyanji’s full name was Kalyanji Veerji Shah and he was composing alone before his brother Anandji teamed up with him. Another fact is Kalyanji has played one instrument (I don’t remember instrument’s name) for our O P Nayyar ji in the film “Phagun”.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — August 15, 2008 @ 10:58 am | Reply

  1373. Happy INDEPENDENCE DAY to all.

    Rightly said Krishna Baru ji Kalyanji bhai was a gujrati and his full name was Kalyanji Veerji Shah. He was an assistant to Hemant Kumar in film Nagin. In fact the famous snake been ‘Man Dole Mera Tan Dole’ the entire part of Been was played by Kalyanji bhai himself.

    #1371

    Hemant ji

    The last we heard of Dilraj Kaur was that she married to Khaiyyam and she was last heard in a beautiful song ‘Sawan aaya Badal Aaye, Mere Piya Nahi Aaye’ from film Toote Khilone filmed on Urmila Bhatt starring Shekhar Kapoor as hero and Shabana Azmi as heroine.

    Well can somebody give me a song that I am missing today-

    Aawaaz Do Hum Ek Hain, Hum Ek Hain – sung by great Mohammed Rafi Sahab.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 15, 2008 @ 2:24 pm | Reply

  1374. Happy Independence Day to all!

    Anand..Dilraj Kaur is almost old enough to be Khayyam jis daughter. He is married to Jagjit Kaur who sang the famous ‘ tum apna ranjh o gham apni pareshani mujhe de do’ as also the song from ‘Bazaar’. Khayyam ji is an old friend of our family and somebody whose compositions are a treat to the ears.

    And the song ‘ awaaz do’ is a gem..thank you for the memories it evokes.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — August 15, 2008 @ 2:33 pm | Reply

  1375. Kaveeta Ji,

    Rightly said Jagjit Kaur is married to Khaiyyam ji. I got confused with Dilraj Kaur. Indeed Khaiyyam ji is legend.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 15, 2008 @ 9:50 pm | Reply

  1376. #1374

    The song by Dilraj Kaur Is not from Toote Khilone but from ‘Jaan Hazir Hai’ with the same stars.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 15, 2008 @ 10:08 pm | Reply

  1377. I am visiting Sachniti after a gap of some days.
    The first duty then is to Thank all my Friends who greeted me on my birth day:Kaveethaji, Murty garu, Krishna garu, Hemant ji, Anandji and all others, who Iam sure wish me well in their hearts, though they did not express here. I am a mannersless brute not to have seen them till today.
    (I was actually immersed in experimenting and researching into audio and video editing).
    Yes, Hemanthji, I really enjoyed the day as much as possible hearing my favourites of OP, many songs sent by you and especially two sent by Purinderji “Tum kitna wonderful ” and “Be dard preeet Nahin jani”
    I will be failing in my duty if I dont thank at the same time all of you and Purinderji, and also one Asif K. Alvi, who is not a Sachnitian, but still a great fan of OP, all who sent me so many rare songs and most wanted songs and enriched my collection, and made me happier.
    I am a Leo (like The great Napoleon Bonaparte and Alexander the Great, but without absolutely no quality of Napoleon nor any of the often mentioned great qualities of Leos in general). But I may have just useless quality of Leos, that is “Liking for fine arts”. I only enjoy, but, know nothing about them nor can I create any thing. But who doesnt? Every one likes Fine arts. LOL.
    Hemanthji, you said 40th? No, I just completed 68. May be you meant i was born in 1940?
    I am a scorpius as per Telugu Panchangam. I dont know about astrology of other regions of India, if they are the same or different from South Indian. ya , I know even according to Bengali astrology, I am a Scorpius.
    Enough of this I think, I dont want to bore more.

    Comment by curao — August 16, 2008 @ 6:06 am | Reply

  1378. On #1366 and 1367:
    continuing with absent songs:
    Jata kahan hai diwani of C.I.D.
    Bhool Jaye dil-Asha-Hum sub chor hain.
    Krishna garu, on KA : K.V.Sha is unforgettable for playing that memorable been music on that instrument which was reportedly made and imported from England for just the film Nagin. But I agree with you that KA were very similar to SJ.
    Here is some question for many knoledgeable OPIUMS here:
    I recently got from a friend, a song sung by Asha-Usha-Tamoti “Yeh raatein yeh nazre aji kisliye” from the film “The Killers”, with OP’s music. Produced in 1969. Did the 3 really sing it? I could not judge my self. The song is ofcourse very pleasant and lovable. Was there really such a film? Was it released? Does any one have the other songs of that film? Never heard of it myself. did Tamoti ever sing any other songs for OP? I have 2 other songs of hers, solos, from films unknown to me.
    I also got 2 more good songs of Mr. Lambu, “Jab takdeer chalai” and ” Khan jateho’ which seem to have been sung by Asha and not suraiyya. Did Asha also sing in Mr. Lambu? The sender of these songs also doesnt know.

    Comment by curao — August 16, 2008 @ 6:41 am | Reply

  1379. sorry , it should be “kahan jateho” above.

    Comment by curao — August 16, 2008 @ 6:43 am | Reply

  1380. Rao sahib , your mention of my name as the giver of a few songs to you was not only gracious of you, but it also raised a bigger question of how much of one’s music collection should one share with other music lovers.

    Speaking from personal experience, one has built a formidable collection of OP songs owing to dogged and determined efforts spread over 30 years coupled with investment of time, persistence and money. On the other hand, it gives one immense pleasure to know that other lovers of OP have enjoyed listening to the songs, shared. So dear Opiums, how does one find the balance?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 16, 2008 @ 8:58 am | Reply

  1381. #1379: Rao sahib, the song from the film “The Killers” [ starring Dara Singh and made probably in 1969 or 1970] mentioned by you is possible the duet “Churaate ho nazarein aji kis liye” sung by Asha and Usha Timothy. I do not remember Usha Timothy ever singing for OP after this effort.

    As for the Mr Lambu songs, “Kahan jaate ho karke bahana piya” is an Asha song. The other song mentioned by you is not recognisable by me. Suraiya, incidentally sang 2 beautiful solos and the fabulous duet with Rafi, ” Tum zara si baat par khafa na ho”.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 16, 2008 @ 9:11 am | Reply

  1382. So, thank you Purinderji for clearing my doubt. The info that came to me about Churate yeh nazre was not properly printed. So, it was Usha timothy then , and not Usha and Timoti as I thought. I could not be sure about the first word “churate” or “Yeh rate” also. But it is a very good song is it not?
    but then, is there another singer named Tamoti in old times? I have 2 songs downloaded from Indianscreen.com, without the films names or MD names, by Tamoti (or is it Timothy?), “Pardesi na Jaiyyo” with some old time male singer Suresh or Shyam and “Mera husn lootne”. I downloaded them long ago.
    As to the question of sharing songs: I feel it is OK if it is a mutual exchange with some one keenly interested. But, I came across a few , not many, to whom I sent my whole OP, and SJ collections and they kept quiet after that. It left me very disappointed, because they did not send the promised songs from their side. Well, there are all sorts of people. I took it stoically.
    Joys-shared-with-others-multiply sort of thing. You yourself would naturally feel satisfied that you gave me so much pleasure through the song “Be dard preet”. I am not exaggerating the effect of that song on me. I only wonder why did it not impress other OPIUMS.
    And also Basanth songs for which you took so much trouble, I would always thankfully remember. Of course I liked them very much. our tastes are alike in many songs of that type I think. I may or may not be able to compensate you for that trouble, which only future can tell.
    As you rightly said, it required lots more of patience, time and money to collect OP’s songs than other greats like SJ,CR,Naushad or SDB. Overall, it took me nearly 40 years, to collect as many as I have now of all the composers and digitizing them to mp3. The original collection in tapes , started as you rightly said, some time in 1970, with the onset of audio cassettes.

    Comment by curao — August 16, 2008 @ 7:05 pm | Reply

  1383. Dear Murthy
    Please confirm regarding the receipt of cd 9845123335

    Comment by prakash — August 16, 2008 @ 7:44 pm | Reply

  1384. Dear Curao ji,

    There is a melodious song ‘Tu Raat Khadi Thi Chatt Pe’ sung by Usha Tamoty along with Rafi Sahab for film Himalay Ki God Mein released in 1965.

    I am also fond of old rare songs of all musicians. Maybe I might have the song of your choice so please feel free to contact me.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 16, 2008 @ 8:54 pm | Reply

  1385. Craoji,
    I remember seeing the movie Killers when I was 7 or 8 years old. It had Dara singh and Helen (not sure about Helen though). It had some really really good songs by Nayyar.
    Can you post that song from that movie some where or email it to me.
    Thanks-a-ton

    Comment by Hemant — August 17, 2008 @ 2:04 am | Reply

  1386. #1378
    Craoji,
    I thought you were a cancerian but if you’re a Leo than I’ll have to check with Linda Goodman to see if my split personality has anything in common with your sun sign – just joking. Well at least Nayyar Sahab is one common denominator between us. Regarding your 40th, we at Sachinita don’t feel you’re a day older than 40.

    Comment by Hemant — August 17, 2008 @ 2:20 am | Reply

  1387. # 1381-1385 More on THE KILLERS and MR. LAMBU

    The songs of THE KILLERS again, like many OP films, outlived the film for which they were created. It is one of the rare films (released in 1969) where Helen was in the leading role with Dara Singh and Sheikh Mukhtar. As Purinder stated, Churate Ho Nazrein Aji Kisliye is a Asha-Usha Timothy duet. OP took on Usha T for this song, when he had never used her voice before or after this song. There is another song in this film, where he has used composer / singer Usha Khanna. However, the most popular of the six songs of this film was a Asha-Kamal Barot duet “Yeh Jo Dil Maangte Hein Badey Daghabaaz Hein”

    Interestingly, OP’s portfolio has several cases of one song/one film wonders. e.g Minoo Purshottam with Asha in Huzoor-e-wala. Rajkumari (Aasman), Krishna Kalle (Taxi Driver) and the list can become fairly long.

    I have never figured out actually who played the title role of Mr. Lambu.
    (OP himself never saw the film). I guess Suraiyya ended up singing two solos and a duet in it, understandably because she was the leading lady. Again, the only instance of her partnership with OP. Interestingly, the director N.A. Ansari was the hero. He couldn’t have been Mr Lambu because he was a man of below average height. Interestinly, apart from Suraiya and Asha, Geeta Dutt also sang two songs. Asha’s “Kitne Sitam Kitne Hee Gham, Bhool Gaye Haye Tumhare Liye Hum” not only turned out to be the most popular song on the Binaca Geetmala/Radio Ceylon, but OP himself liked the end-product, with Asha really clearing her throat for that strong flowing Punjabi beat.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 17, 2008 @ 6:40 am | Reply

  1388. CU Raoji,

    I have a 33 RPM record of Naya Daur. The song “Saathi Haath Bhadhana” is a little under 6 minutes (about 5 minutes 25 seconds). Probabaly, this is equivalent to both sides of a 78 RPM record. Hope this is what you are looking for. I will give you this record when we meet next time, some time in December.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 17, 2008 @ 7:34 am | Reply

  1389. Hemantji,

    This link gives you some interesting information on KA. YouTube has about 150 songs of KA. This link has some good things to say these musicians.

    http://www.hindilyrix.com/musicians/musician-kalyanji-anandji.html

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 17, 2008 @ 7:59 am | Reply

  1390. Rao sahib and other Opiums- my question about sharing of songs had an ulterior motive, as I will explain, later. I agree that mutual exchange is a fair and logical way to proceed. But, as one moves into seeking out rarer songs, exchange becomes more diffcult. Incidentally, Rao sahib, you owe me absolutely nothing. Your expression of joy made every effort worthwhile.

    Now for the ulterior motive. In an ideal world, I would love to unlock the ‘value’ of my 550+ OP songs in return for financial support to the OP Nayyar Foundation. I do not know how to go about it, but I am willing to work with Siraj, who I know is involved, or anybody else to develop a concept.

    There is another thing that I would love to share with Opiums. In my quest for the lost and forgotten works of OP, I have stumbled upon the first song that Asha Bhonsle ever sang for OP.It is a real rare one, with only a handful of original records presently in existence.

    If any of you can guess it, I will be pleased to send it to each of you by email, as a prize.The only hint that I will give is that it is an absolute beauty, notwithstanding the poor quality of the 78 RPM record from which it was taped.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 17, 2008 @ 8:48 am | Reply

  1391. Siraj- Mr Lambu was supposedly produced by Sheikh Mukhtar who also had a role in the movie. His ‘towering’ presence was obviously the provocation neede by Mr Ansari to name the movie, Mr Lambu.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 17, 2008 @ 9:05 am | Reply

  1392. Wow, so many postings to respond to:
    Purinderji,@1391,
    I appreciate your views on sharing. Collected after so much effort, one prefers mutuality and not a one way affair. It is not at all ulterior, nor one need feel guilty about it. You are so generous that though I could not share any with you(only because i dont have what you wanted), you are satisfied with the unalloyed joy you gave with some of the songs you sent me.
    Re: first Asha song with OP? I dont know the song, but it must be from Cham chama cham. Am I correct at least to that extent?
    Was not Sheiekh mukhtar , the producer and hero of Mr. Lambu? I used to wonder why Suraiyya, who was leading female actor of those days agrred to co-star That hulk. Still, I like him for giving Mangu, and do Ustad to OP.
    Krishna garu,
    May be you are right on Saathi hath badhana.
    Sirajji,
    You are really an endless mine of information. And your description of the songs of killers and Mr. Lambu is ear tingling sensation (similar to mouth watering). And you say there are 2 of my Geetha songs too? so unfortunate that it never came to our provincial town of Eluru. Nor Mangu also. Was killers also produced by Sheikh mukhthar?
    Hemanthji,
    Linda Goodman says I am Leo. I read her books on astrology and numerology. Nothing helped me to become what I ought to be as per them. It gladdens my heart that you think Iam younger. but, really, I want to relive those years of Aarpaar to Tumsa nahin dekha. Not only , those were the happiest years of my life (though my father used to beat me often for my craze for films and spending on records), but also I was someone to reckon with in my school and college studies. I often regretted that after my fathers demise, when i was just 23, there is no one to beat me for my acts of omission and commison.

    Comment by curao — August 17, 2008 @ 7:23 pm | Reply

  1393. From http://www.mjakbar.org

    MELODY NEEDED POETRY, SOUND NEEDS PHONETICS
    By M.J. Akbar | August 16, 2008

    A child born in the year that Kishore Kumar died would be 21 years in the first week of August, out of college and already well into the most movie-and-music intense phase of his life. And if he had been born on 31 July 1980, the day Mohammad Rafi died, he would most likely be sharing baby duties with his wife. Would either be aware of the age of melody that they had missed?

    Temperamentally, Rafi and Kishore were as far apart as men can be, and I am not talking geography, although one came from Lahore and the other from Khandwa. Kishore Kumar came to Bombay to sing, but could not get work because he had not been trained in classical music. His elder brother, Ashok Kumar, already a hit star, advised him to make a bit of money by acting. It would be safe to say that every film Kishore made was an autobiography. He was as mad off-screen as he was zany on-screen. He couldn’t keep his limbs still, and his first songs were commissioned as part of patter-and-song comedy. He was the first, and only Hindi film singer with the ability to yodel, but of course yodelling was considered outrageously hilarious in the mores of those times. But the extraordinary timber of his voice seeped silkily through the false-front of ina-mina-dika nonsense-verse. It was only a matter of time before Dev Anand picked him up, and although Teen Deviyan, in which Dev woos three highly forgettable ladies, was a flop, its music was a singular success with the Kishore croon in full flow. [Raj Kapoor owned Mukesh, Dilip Kumar had first rights over Rafi; Dev floated.] Even when he sang in B-grade films like Mr X in Bombay Kishore could lift the music above the movie. When he made Door Gagan Ki Chaon Mein, whose music was a superhit, Kishore proved that his range could match that of Rafi. His one song in Guide was incomparable.

    Rafi was the gentlest, most respectable person you could meet in Bombay, an artiste of the highest quality without a trace of the airs and arrogance that trail stars. He was grounded in classical music; he could not have sung the superb bhajan, Hari Om otherwise. The repertoire was unmatched, from O duniya ke rakhwale to Apni to har aah ik toofan hai to Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaaye to kya hai to Chu lene do naazuk hoton ko kuch aur nahin hain jaam hain yeh to Chahe koi mujhe junglee kahe to a thousand I could name and still feel that I had not done justice to Rafi.

    Kishore Kumar made his first film, Chalti Ka Naam Gaadi, for the oddest of reasons in an industry driven by greed and commerce. He hoped that it would flop and he would lose all his money. His logic went thus. He had reached the top income tax bracket and hated the thought of handing out money coldly to a Delhi bureaucrat. He decided that he might as well have fun wasting it on a movie. Unfortunately, the film — starring all three Kumar brothers, Ashok, Kishore and Anup — became a breathtaking superhit. Kishore Kumar was so upset that he gave all the rights of the film to his secretary.

    The story has to be true. No one could have made it up, except possibly Kishore Kumar — but why make up something you can do? As it turned out, Kishore Kumar fell in love with the leading lady of his film, the glorious Madhubala, and married her, which turned out to be an expensive proposition as well. Poor rich chap.

    Kishore would have been 79 today if he had been alive, about the average age for a top politician, and far better value for Indians. Rafi died of that typical Lahori-Punjabi weakness, good, rich food. Melody ebbed with them, leaving space for the emergence of the age of sound.

    I do not mean to disparage contemporary music; some of it is quite attractive, and even good for health, sometimes inducing the only form of exercise I get. And who can ignore the fact that India’s growth rate was three per cent in the age of melody and is nine per cent in the age of sound? Dare sniff at that, if you can. It is simply that the two worlds are not only in different time zones, but set against cultural horizons that would not recognise each other. The pecking order of the senses has changed along with sensibilities. The ear has surrendered to the foot. You cannot really sing along with most modern Hindi film songs, but you can dance. The shift began with the arrival of the discotheque as a quasi-sexual sub-culture. It has been raised into a highly lucrative stratosphere by television. The passé singing contest, Antakshari, is dowdy and very Doordarshanish compared to the sexy dance contests on television that are now a staple of small town and middle India. Nautch, a professional art, was once the privilege of the racier section of the elite. Sexy gyrations, meant for display before millions, are now the fantasy of possessive sari-clad middle class mothers for their middle class daughters.

    Melody needed poetry; sound needs phonetics. Sahir Ludhianvi, Majrooh Sultanpuri, Shailendra, Hasrat Jaipuri, Neeraj: it is good that you died natural deaths. These days you would have starved to death before Mumbai cinema commissioned your poetry.

    The greats of the Old World add up to an untidy acronym, LAGAMMMMK. I know it sounds like the name of a movie as redone by a numerologist, a la Singh is Kinng. Less glamorously, it stands for [ladies first] Lata Mangeshkar, Geeta Dutt, Asha Bhonsle, four Ms — Mohammad Rafi, Mukesh, Manna Dey, Hemant Mukherjee, ending with Kishore Kumar. Mukesh and Hemant sang within a much narrower focus than the others on the list, but they were yet superior from the current stars, exceptions apart, who tend to repeat the same song with marginal variations in beat and accompaniment. The difference is between type and stereotype. One has to admit, though, that stereotypes end up with a much larger bank balance.

    Perhaps the most authentic indicator is the average life of a hit song. Popular music of the Sixties and Seventies still packs the shelves of shops, and even the Fifties get a healthy look-in. Current hits are like floodtides. They swamp the market and then disappear. They are suddenly everywhere, and suddenly nowhere. How many songs can you remember from the last 21 years? How many songs can you forget from the 21 years previous to Rafi’s death? Hamburger versus biryani: if you don’t know the difference, you’ll never get it.

    Is nostalgia the last temptation of the bore? It isn’t as if the thought hasn’t crossed my mind while I was writing this column. And yet, and yet. Permit me the luxury of pity — pity for those who were born two and three decades ago and have not discovered Rafi and Kishore. They have one advantage though: they still have time.
    —————————————-
    Very well written article by MJ Akbar at his best about flim music , yesterday , today and today, hope no

    These below are the best lines.

    And who can ignore the fact that India’s growth rate was three per cent in the age of melody and is nine per cent in the age of sound? Dare sniff at that, if you can. It is simply that the two worlds are not only in different time zones, but set against cultural horizons that would not recognise each other
    tomorrow.

    The age of sound and its benefit . A lovely comment below.

    I do not mean to disparage contemporary music; some of it is quite attractive, and even good for health, sometimes inducing the only form of exercise I get.

    ———————————————

    Gajanan on a nostalgia below.

    Kishore had super memory. I have seen several Kishore Kumar shows in Mumbai. He used to just refer to paper sheet about the order of songs. Then he used to launch himself in the middle of the stage and sing with his patent restlessness. All words would be right, the tune perfect and the audience riding joy bound sound.

    Once the show started late and the crowd was uncontrollable. [Paper rockets flew and as Akbar has described in the age of melody the audience was decent enough to send in paper rockets. What would have happened in this age of sound. It is anybody’s guess]

    Kishore entered thru the front door, Yeh… aaa… , the stage opened and there was music of Meri Sapnon ki Rani , there was pindrop silence and Kishore strode the stage with his fur cap and the great immortal song followed.

    Yes both Rafi and Kishore were like two eyes of the Hindi film music. Even the young , with sound ruling now, after preponderance agree. that they require the old hits of these two mortal men and their immortal melodies to rejuvenate.

    Comment by gajanan — August 18, 2008 @ 11:24 am | Reply

  1394. All words would be right, the tune perfect and the audience riding joy bound melody.

    Just see , how in the subconcious I have been overpowered by sound. I am writing the only exercise I do after listening to sound. Apologies for the use of word sound and to the late Kishore Kumar. Please read “sound” as ‘melody’.

    Comment by gajanan — August 18, 2008 @ 11:29 am | Reply

  1395. Purinder

    I waited long for somebody else to say that Asha Bhosle’s first song for OP was Aa Pardesee Baalma Morey Aangna for Chham Chhama Cham. So is my prize pakka?

    Curao

    Thank you for the kind words but honestly in the company of OPIUMS, I feel that I know so little.

    From the official credits, THE KILLERS wasn’t a SHEIKH MUKHTAR PRODUCTIONS release but who knows, Mukhtar was the brain behind so many other productions of costume and action films. He continued to act until 1971 – no doubt a monumental film career.

    Incidentally, once while talking to OP about another flop film of his HONG KONG (1962), he told me about a movie which was even lousier than that and was called Lambu in Hong Kong, released in 1967.” Thank goodness, I was busy and I respectfully declined to compose for it” he said. Yes, Sheikh Mukhtar featured there too but I am not sure who was the music director.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 18, 2008 @ 4:45 pm | Reply

  1396. Siraj, you are spot on with Asha’s first song for OP, namely “Aa Pardesee Baalma Morey Aangna “. Your prize is pakka , but have you had the pleasure of hearing this lovely song ?

    Rao sahib – you were close – at least you got the movie right.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 18, 2008 @ 5:34 pm | Reply

  1397. Siraj and Rao sahib – please check you mail box.And, if the past is of any help, Rao sahib should check the Trash Folder, first.

    Happy listening!!

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 18, 2008 @ 5:54 pm | Reply

  1398. Thanks Purinder. If I had ever heard this song as a child, I must have forgotten the tune. Thanks, I feel good earning it and even better hearing it.

    The interesting aspect of Asha’s early songs is her singing in either Geeta Dutt or Shamshad Begum style. I have won several bets in the past with seasoned fans of Asha, who actually think that Mun Morey Ga Jhoom Ke of Mangu has been sung by Geeta Dutt. Aa Pardesi Baalma has a mix flavour of Geeta and Shamshad.

    Speaking of Asha, for those OPIUMS who have not heard the album DIL PADOSI HAI, I can tell you that you are missing something in life. This may not take you on the high as opium would, but I guarantee you a nasha which can be best described by this sher

    Halka kabhi padey ga ubhar jaye ga kabhi
    Ye woh nasha nahee jo utar jaye ga kabhi

    It is a joint effort of Asha, Gulzar and RD Burman (RDB’s last non-film album) and a collector’s item if there was any. In fact, OP steered me towards it and himself felt that this was the best of RD’s creations. There is a track in it called Jhootey Tere Nain, where even the Rhythm King was baffled by its unusual rhythm and beat – which has never been used by anyone before or since.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 18, 2008 @ 7:57 pm | Reply

  1399. Siraj Ji,

    #1396
    Lambu in Hong Kong was release in year 1967. It Had Sheikh Mukhtar, Kum kum, Jayant, Helen,Sujit Kumar,Muqri & Mehmood and it had music by C.Arjun

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 18, 2008 @ 9:06 pm | Reply

  1400. Anand

    The only composition of C.Arjun which I rate highly is ‘Bemurawwat Bewafa Began-e-Dil Aap Hein’ sung by Mubarak Begum in her haunting voice.

    Also one of my favourite Asha songs is the title song of Teri Talaash Mein. It was only few years ago that I learnt that it was composed by Sapan-Jagmohan and I kicked myself for my ignorance as I had never even heard of their names as composers before. Asha’s voice modulation + the the orchestration + the lonely-lost-woman-in-the-wilderness effect of this song is mind-blowing, refelecting that the composers were men of substance. This was no flash in the pan!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 19, 2008 @ 8:21 am | Reply

  1401. Siraj- there is another brilliant composition of C.Arjun, “Gham ki andheri raat mein, dil ko na beqaraar kar” sung by Rafi & Talat , I think from the same movie (Sushila) as ‘Bemurrawat bewafa’, the song identified by you. So C Arjun is not really a ‘one song wonder’.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 21, 2008 @ 10:26 am | Reply

  1402. This is the link to the compilation of C Arjun songs.

    http://www.earthmusic.net/hindi-film-songs.php?page=1&total=109&&mdid%5B%5D=carjun&mdmtype=plus

    Scroll to the top to find links to 6 pages. Must confess though that I could not recognise most except ‘ humne teri jafaa ka wafaa naam rakh diya’. He had created quite a niche for himself..so I agree with Purinder ji..he was talented..maybe not as gifted as the other legends mentioned here but definitely a musician who delivered what he could under the circumstances.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — August 21, 2008 @ 10:47 am | Reply

  1403. t he is so near to his death i cou recorded the whole conversion. I am fortunate to have a nphotograph with with him. I have sent a dvd and a cd of his programme held at bangalore where he held a press coneference and conducted a orechestre. i wsh that Mr. Murthy will be able to help all fans to senfd the cd and dvd whic i have sent to him.

    Comment by murthy — August 21, 2008 @ 8:24 pm | Reply

  1404. A little bit more on C.Arjun.

    One of his early movie was Road No.303. Apparently to motivate indifferent distributors to buy the distribution rights of this film, the producer of this film projected C.Arjun as the ‘younger brother’ of C.Ramachandra.I am not sure how successful the producer was in his endeavours, but the movie was not exactly a hit.

    Another C.Arjun song which did quite well was “Paas baitho tabiyat machal jayegi” sung by Rafi and from movie “Punar Milan”.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 21, 2008 @ 10:52 pm | Reply

  1405. More on C. Arjun

    I am sure if we do more research, more songs by him would unfold. At times, you know a song well but do not know who has composed it.

    There are three composers, who to me seem to have a few songs in their repertoire, with traces of the OP mould.

    1. GS Kohli – and one can understand that, being OP’s assistant for many years and remaining under his shadow until his death. What is commendable is that despite coming from OP’s camp, Lata has sung heartily for GSK. In fact, if one would ever want to visualize how an OP composition would sound in Lata’s voice, one should listen to some selected GSK songs.

    2. Usha Khanna – again not surprising. Usha was captivated by OP and used to hang around during his recordings. OP had already created a bang for Nasir Hussain in his first directorial venture Tumsa Naheen Dekha. When NH approached OP for his second film Del Deke Dekho, OP had a full plate and gave NH the surprise by introducing/recommending Usha Khanna to him, in his place. One can only marvel on the wisdom of NH and the confidence of OP, that a shy 17 year old college student was accepted as a composer, for an extremely ambitious film where Asha Parekh was also being launched. The joke is that when the title song of Dil Deke Dekho went on air early 1959, people actually thought that OP was the composer. Even radio stations were fooled. OP traces can be found in many Usha Khanna numbers even in her later movies.

    3. N. Dutta – few composers have created a sensation with their first film to the degree N. Dutta did with Milaap in 1955, with those peppy Geeta Dutt numbers

    * Jaate ho jao par jao ge kahaan
    * Saiyyan khul ke na nain milaye re
    * Ye baharon ka samaan, chand taron ka jahan
    * Bachna zara ye zamana hai bura, kabhi meri gali mein na aana
    * Tara ra ra rum, mere dil mein sanam ?

    For years I had wrongly taken these to be OP compositions (maybe because of the Geeta Dutt element). Interestingly, even now that I am a bit more knowledgeable about N. Dutta and his long list of wonderful melodies, I still think Milaap as a film was his best. Check these out on YouTube and watching Geeta Bali you would think that it was she who was singing, not Geeta Dutt – not even a trace of lip singing! Dev Anand, of course, delivers as always.
    *

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 22, 2008 @ 10:48 am | Reply

  1406. Siraj ji,
    N.Dutta gave us wonderful songs for ‘Dhool Ka Phool’ also which are still listener’s delight.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 22, 2008 @ 8:01 pm | Reply

  1407. I would love to contact any body who is Rafi Saheb fan.
    The only one man can beat rafi saheb is himself Rafi…

    ultimate singer …….no one can even touch his voice.
    can anybody tell me how can i get song main kab gaata mere swar mein pyaar kisi ka gaata hai….
    vijay
    vijayv02@yahoo.com

    Comment by Vijay Kumar — August 23, 2008 @ 4:56 pm | Reply

  1408. Though I am an ardent fan and great admirer of Rafi, I perhaps do not have that song.
    Siraj ji,
    Like minds vibrate in harmony. See the coincidence. Early tday morning, I called Krishna baruji, and conversationally mentioned ” Dhadka tho hoga dil jaroor” and what a great song it was. You find such a mood-elevating, peppy song rarely. He asked me if I saw my mail. I did not go to my mail till he said that you also appreciate that song in your latest posting. Then I saw the mail and your message was there with that very song. Jaroor Jaroor dhadka tho hoga yeh dil.
    I also mentioned another dil “dhadak” song ” Yeh dhadak dhadak dil dhadke” of Aji bas shukriya to Krishna garu and said that many other composers adapted the style of OP and it is often difficult to recognise tho composer. True is it not?
    Siraj ji and others,
    I can not agree with you more about N.Dutta and must add a bit to do my duty to him.
    1. The first is his Black cat. The 2 lata solos “Mai tumhi tumhi hai mushkilse” and “Chale aao chale aao” are too great to be omitted. Latha once said that they were her 2 best songs and found mosr difficult to sing. I dont know how much conviction she said it, because she also said that “Aayega aanewala ” was her best song in another interview.
    2. The 2nd perhaps personally my best of Dutta, along with “Jaateho tho jaao par” is “Maine chand aur sitaronki” of chandrakantha. How sweet, sedate, and sober it is!! I rate it as one of Rafi’s all-time greats.
    3. Let it not be forgotten that his “Lal lal gaal” of Mr. X was the first and biggest Rock’N roll hit of all time. In fact, no other rock went that high in Binaka year-end hit parade. It was third from the top, below “jara saamne tho aao chaliye” of Janam janamke phere and Sarjo tera chakraye of Pyasa. Mr. X was released before Baarish with its rock “Oh Mr. john yha baba khan” and Hum sub chor hain with its “humko hanste”.
    However, Milap desrves al of our praise for its many songs mentioned by you.
    We once talked about Geeetha(dutt)- Githa(bali) combination. so , now we have Jaal, Bazi, Baaz, Milap, Anand math. I do not remeber if Aji bas shukriya has many songs of Geetha

    Comment by curao — August 24, 2008 @ 7:45 pm | Reply

  1409. Dear Curao

    In that impressive N. Dutta list, can I sneak in one more Rafi nugget – Ashkon ne jo paya hai wo geeton ne diya hai.

    Yes, even if Lata did not mean it, Mein Tumhin se Poochti Hoon Mujhe Timse Pyar Kyon Hai remains one of my favourites. There is a friend of mine Shabbi in Lahore who plays the piano. Years ago when we were in Bahrain together, my ultimate treat was to visit his place, shut off the lights, close my eyes and listen to his fingers running gently up and down the keys on Mein Tumhi se poochti hoon, Waqt ne kya kya haseen sitam, Lag ja galey, Yahee woh Jagah Hai, Woh Hans Ke Mile Hamse etc……Fond memories!

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 24, 2008 @ 8:36 pm | Reply

  1410. An add-on, which I meant to include in my last message……

    Despite N. Dutta’s many creations, unfortunately, his name is not taken in same breath as OP, SDB, S-J. I guess it takes something much more to be upgraded from a good composer to a great composer?

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 24, 2008 @ 8:44 pm | Reply

  1411. Wasn’t N.Dutta the Music Director of the stunning Asha/Rafi Qawalli “Meri tasveer lekar kya karoge,tum meri tasveer lekar” from some non-descript film? Or was it Dattaram ?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 25, 2008 @ 4:10 pm | Reply

  1412. Yes, siraj ji,
    Ashon ne j0 paya desrves its own pride of place among Rafi’s greats and there fore N.Dutta’s too.
    Re: why Dutta was not mentioned along with SJ.OP etc, I think the reason is simply the number of such great songs. He had some , but not as many as those great 5:SJ,OP,N,SDB and CR. and must also come below, Anil biswas, Roshan, Madan mohan, Hemanth kumar, Ravi, Salil chowdhary, ghulam mohd etc. all these names are just behind those great 5 in my personal opinion.. I am not comparing with later MDs.
    He is perhaps on par with Chitragupta. After all, so many composers did create a few wonders in a few films and made their mark to that extent, memorable for them and faded out. Sajjad hussain , Snehal bhatkar were also of the same class as Dutta, may be dutta has a few more. i think Naya Rasta also has 1 or 2 good songs.
    But one thing I am sure, they all made Hindi film music so rich, and made our lives who love good music happier.

    Comment by curao — August 25, 2008 @ 7:37 pm | Reply

  1413. I don’t have website of my own. I am one of the diehard fans of O P Nayyar. His songs in Musfir Khana sung by Shamshad Begam and Moh. Rafi Thodasa Dil Lagakar Dekh is one of the most haunting a hiarious songs which I love the most. His song sung by Mahendra Kapoor ” Kahanse layi O Janeman ye Kitabi chehara Gulabi Ankhe ” is another favourite song of mine. In fact ther are hardly any song I don’t love of Nayyarji. His best ever songs which are almost all which he scored I would be say are unforgettable and his use of saxophone in the interludes was masterly. He scored his one of the best ever according to me were Tumsa Nahin Dekha, Mujarim, Ham sab chor hai, Musafir Khana, Naya Andaj Miss Coca Cola and so on which may be list of his unending masterly songs. His songs of Chandan and Ragini too were one of his best wiht Fagun and so on. Well if anybody will make available his entire songs on line it would be a great tribute to him. I am awaiting for the same and if anywhere they are available please let me know. KDChitnis.

    Comment by kdchitnis — August 25, 2008 @ 10:31 pm | Reply

  1414. Welcome Mr K D Chitnis to sachniti.

    In #1414 you have mentioned about one film “Chandan”, was it music by O P Nayyar?

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — August 26, 2008 @ 7:14 am | Reply

  1415. I join Mutyji in welcoming you to Sachniti, where many of us are die-hard fans of Nayyar like you. Of ourse all the songs and films you mentioned are our favorites too.
    As Murtyji has pointed out, chandan was not O.P.Nayyar’s. I think it was Madan mohan. There was another film of the same theme with same Kishore-Nutan combination, produced at the same time , but released later, with music by O.P.Nayyar “Kabhi andhera kabhi Ujala”. This has some very good songs such as “Surma mera nirala, Ajab hamari hai zindagani– kabhi andhera kabhi ujala(Title song), a very soul stirring song, and Baahon tho jara lehrade by mannadey and Asha.

    Comment by curao — August 28, 2008 @ 12:10 pm | Reply

  1416. A large concert to remember OP NAYYAR is being planned for January 2009 in New Delhi.

    Looking for corporate sponsors.

    Also suggestions for a catchy name for the event.

    You can also contact me directly at
    Khansaheb2@aol.com

    Comment by Siraj Khan — August 31, 2008 @ 6:50 am | Reply

  1417. –A TRIBUTE TO GOLDEN ERA OF MUSIC
    through ” O P NAYYAR KA SANGEET”–

    Siraj ji, this is my suggetion.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — August 31, 2008 @ 1:27 pm | Reply

  1418. Dear Murthy
    in continuation my telephonic call to you please try to send the cd of Love and Murder
    with regards

    Comment by opnayyar — August 31, 2008 @ 8:18 pm | Reply

  1419. O P Nayyarji was & will always be an incomparable genius. Everytime I listen to his music, I marvel at the incredible mind that could conceive of music so melodious and perfect that it could only come from one who was closer to God than the rest of us. O P Nayyarji’s music is eternal & will live on forever.

    Comment by Vinay Chikarmane — August 31, 2008 @ 11:01 pm | Reply

  1420. Siraj Saheb,

    The idea to have a concert in New Delhi in January is commendable. At this time I am planning on my trip to India which would include Delhi. Can we schedule the concert in the first week of January? I would like to attend the concert. It would be nice if all OPIUMS can find time to get together and have a good time.

    The sooner the date of the concert can be fixed, it will give us time to plan for the trip.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 31, 2008 @ 11:02 pm | Reply

  1421. Hi all you Opiums,
    OP Sahebs music, like the nasha signified by your very imaginative ‘nickname’, has thrilled us all for as long as I can remember film music. I literally grew up with his songs, first on Binaca Geetmala, then in those amazing films. It is fitting that such a devoted community has come together under the umbrella offered by Sachiniti to express their love and admiration for this great composer who lived a remarkable life, which is truly reflected in his amazing music.
    I have the great fortune of having known personally Purinder Ganju and also Siraj Khan, after which I realised that it is actually normal and OK to adore someones music to this extreme level. These two gentlemen surpass anyones knowledge of the great mans music and nobody on this planet can possibly match Purinders collection of his songs.
    Following an earlier email from Siraj’s on this site, I took up the task of organising the “Hamari Yaad Ayegi” in honour of Mubarak Begum in April 08 and even though I had no experience in organising such events, it still turned out to be a success on all fronts. In fact she was so popular and so great was the unsatiated demand for her songs that she was back on stage in July, and from what I understand, is likely to come back yet again though the dates are not finalised yet.
    This gave me some confidence to take up this challenge of organising the OP Nite in New Delhi in January. We also want to invite and honour those musicians who performed with OPs and the most notable amongst them Mr Manohari Singh was contacted last week and has given his in-principle consent. The musical objective here is to try and reproduce those sounds as faithfully as possible, knowing that like infinity, it is impossible to achieve, but we will certainly make an honest effort at it.
    Before all of you fans get too excited at this prospect, let me be quick to add that a lot of funds are required for this event and only a large Corporate sponsorship can help turn this dream into a reality. This is exactly what Siraj has mentioned in his mail #1417. We are making some efforts at this, but any advice, contacts which any of you may have – please activate them NOW, – it would be most welcome indeed.
    As far as dates go, this is one of the most complicated issues since it depends on the venue and artistes availability. Looking at everything the only possible dates are 24th or 31st Jan. There is a team of very competent people who worked with me in Hamari Yaad Ayegi who are again working with me in order to make this a reality. For now we need all your good wishes and blessings that this event actually happens – not to forget the funds/contacts which are essential for such an event.

    Comment by Naveen Anand — September 1, 2008 @ 5:25 pm | Reply

  1422. Bravo Naveen. You have done and are doing what many of us can only aspire for.

    I am glad you have told us of your efforts in detail about the OP nite in January. In future too please keep us updated on a regular basis.

    Siraj ji is unique and Purinder ji is without doubt a gentlemen who is not only perhaps the most encyclopaedic on OP but also a fine person.

    I will write to you on the issue of the OP nite soon and do whatever I can.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — September 1, 2008 @ 5:48 pm | Reply

  1423. Dear Raffians,

    Please hear the last Rafi & Madan Mohan rare composition of an unreleased film. ‘Kaise Kategi Zindagi Tere Begair Tere Begair’ on You Tube.com Just not to miss it.

    Comment by Anand Berry — September 1, 2008 @ 9:30 pm | Reply

  1424. Naveen – welcome aboard on the Sachiniti platform. You have said nice things about me and my OP music collection. I accept the former- namely of being an OP devotee, but my collection of OP songs being ‘unmatched on this planet’ is being a little optimistic and ambitious. I will settle for having among the bigger collections in Gurgaon.

    So you have raised the herald of the OP nite in January 2009. It will be interesting to see how Opiums rally around this ‘battle cry’. I am sure that many of us will all pitch in and offer more than just moral support. Good luck in this ambitious endeavour.

    Kaveetaa ji – ” a gentleman who is also a nice person”!! I’ll won’t forget that one in a hurry.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — September 2, 2008 @ 10:37 pm | Reply

  1425. Purinderji,
    You are too modest in #1425.
    #1424: Anand Berryji,
    Rafi and Madan mohan:Can we ever forget 4 of the most enduring creations together:
    1. Basti basti parbat parbat gata jaaye banjara of Railway platfarm
    2. Mat bhulo are insaan of Mastana. Out side of Naushad, Rafi has never sung his heart out as effectively as in this song.
    3. Rang aur noorki baaraat kise pesh karun in Ghazal.
    4. Tujhe kya sunaoon in Dulhan ek raatki
    Of course, I never heard the song you mentioned. I was not a very close follower of Madan mohan, but, I am not behind any one in appreciating his good songs. There are really scores of very good songs composed by him in films like Khandaan, Jahanara, Anpadh, Ankhen, Ashiyana, Bhai bhai, Dastak, Dekh kabira roya, Madhosh etc., just to fondly recall.

    Comment by curao — September 4, 2008 @ 6:19 pm | Reply

  1426. Curaoji..is been so long since I heard the term “fondly recall”. It seemed so nice just reading it. It says so much in just two words and to use it for Madan Mohan is appropriate..to say the least.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — September 5, 2008 @ 12:40 pm | Reply

  1427. Kaveethaji, Thank you
    I fondly recalled: Fondly, yes. But recalled wrongly, I think.
    I apologize for wrongly crediting Khandaan and Ankhen to Madan mohan. They are Ravi’s. No?
    Not being a close follower of either, my memory played tricks. And some monkey tricks were played by “Media monkey”, the software I use for organizing my Songs Library.
    Even otherwise, I often commit such mistakes. I dont mind at all for being corrected. On the other hand, I appreciate it.
    I request all the friends here to attribute them to my failing memory at this old age, but, never doubt my love for songs of all the composers. PL. dont think that that liking is superficial or pretentious because the songs’ credits are wrong.
    No one has corrected me so far on the above, perhaps out of respect for my age. No need for that. It is more than enough respect to me to be allowed to participate in Sachniti and excusing my mistakes.
    I vaguely recall that Khandaan got Filmfare’s best music award too.

    Comment by curao — September 7, 2008 @ 8:32 am | Reply

  1428. Friends..Varsha Bhonsle daughter of Asha bhonsle has attempted suicide. She took an overdose of sleeping pills and is presently admitted in Jaslok Hospital.Yesterday the channels and media was agog with felicitations for Asha on her 75th birthday..She had given interviews to various channels and all seemed perfect. Life is so unpredictable.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — September 9, 2008 @ 4:00 pm | Reply

  1429. Disturbed by the news I decided to read on more about Varsha. She is a prolific journalist presently living with her mother, although married to Hemant kenkre..also a writer.

    I chanced upon this tremendous piece of writing. Varsha on her mother Asha. It brought tears to my eyes such is the force and impact of her words. if such an evolved mind had to seek recourse in suicide, one can only imagine the pain, turmoil, angst she must be undergoing. May the Almighty and Ganapati grant her a speedy recovery.

    The write up I was referring to… a must read.

    http://www.indianmelody.com/ashaarticle1.htm

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — September 9, 2008 @ 4:25 pm | Reply

  1430. Extrmely shocked to hear this sad news, thank God she survived.
    Her piece on Asha Tai is indeed excellent. Her honesty shows through clearly in her writing.
    Wishing her a speeedy recovery.

    Comment by Naveen Anand — September 9, 2008 @ 6:56 pm | Reply

  1431. If O.P. Nayyar saheb were to be alive today, this development pertaining Varsha would have caused him lot of pain. I am sure he would have put his ego aside and would have been by Asha ji’s side in this hour of family tragedy. Let us all pray that Varsha come out of this situation stronger and more determined like her mom.

    Comment by krishna Baru — September 10, 2008 @ 7:04 am | Reply

  1432. Kaveetaa ji – your post # 1430 mentions that Varsha Bhonsle’s writing brought ” tears to my eyes, such is the force and impact of her words. if such an evolved mind had to seek recourse in suicide, one can only imagine the pain, turmoil, angst she must be undergoing.”

    I feel that such sensitive minds and hearts are more prone to loss of faith and self-belief.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — September 10, 2008 @ 1:25 pm | Reply

  1433. Dear Kaveetaa ji..It is indeed thoughtful to post this piece of information here. Varshas writing in the link referred to is impressive and heart felt. It astounds me as to how things are so diverse from what they might appear to be. On the same day as this incident ( same night) Asha B was celebrating her birthday with pomp though if one is to believe tabloids Varsha was missing at the party. Property dispute the alleged cause of the rift. She is estranged from her husband Hemant and resides in the same building as her mother and aunt. Hospital sources are tight lipped but lack of family by her side is indicative of a cold war.
    Hope she recovers soon and gets on her way.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — September 11, 2008 @ 12:42 pm | Reply

  1434. Varshas attempted suicide is sad. Even those who have everything dont have everything. I mean asha Bhosle. For the world she may appear a legend but her family matters are really shocking. Kaveeta ji you are quite right.I too have read Varshas fiery writings long back at Rediff. She is very intelligent and outspoken. For long she had disappeared. Personal life must have taken its toll.

    #1432. Krishna ji with all apologies. I dont agree with you. Op and asha had reached a stage of extreme hate..and how does it bother us whether he would have gone to her bedside or not. Important thing is we see the pain of a woman and the child of a legend and react accordingly. To me it was shocking too.

    Comment by Krishnan — September 11, 2008 @ 2:15 pm | Reply

  1435. Dear friends,
    On the eve of 75th birthday of Asha Bhosle various TV channels were brodcasting her interview clippings with her songs in the background mostly composed by R.D.Burman, Khaiyyam saheb and some others. It pained our heart that none cared a song of OPN ji.

    Well, please note and listen a number of R.D.Burman and Asha Bhosle combine ‘Do Pal Ki Hai Zindagani’ from Chala Murari Hero Banne on YouTube.com . How desperately they tried to imitate OPN style. But it is rightly said there is no match for Sangeet Samrat OPN as he was a real music hero.

    Comment by Anand Berry — September 11, 2008 @ 10:53 pm | Reply

  1436. Hello Naveen and Krishna ji.. Yeah she needs to emerge from this healed at all all levels, spirit, body,mind. there has been no further news on her condition. In this case I would conclude no news is good news. She must be back home.

    Purinder ji

    Re “I feel that such sensitive minds and hearts are more prone to loss of faith and self-belief.”

    Sad but true.The world can be a cruel place for those sensitive. But all creativity stems from sensitivity, so there lies a troubled dichotomy here. The world in order to restore harmony and balance needs arts and the exploration of it, yet is intolerant of artists and their finely tuned emotions. To harden yourself solely for the purpose of survival is an acquired talent which may not come easily to all. if the world is a space to acquire knowledge through experience then the sooner one learns to adapt the less prone to mental disturbances.. easy said than done.. I know.

    Jatin ji..There seems to be serious trouble but the matter has been hushed up which is understandable. To survive a suicide attempt and come to grips with the fallout of media glare and gossip at such a private juncture must require tons of strength. Hopefully she will find it in her to carry on while layer by layer peeling off obstacles that prove impediments in the goal of self discovery and surrender to His will.

    Anand.. you do have a point. But I wonder if it is intentional. Those who man channels these days are fillies barely in their 20’s. Perhaps they arent aware of the songs.Seems remote but is a possibility since channels per se cannot have anything against OPN.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — September 16, 2008 @ 3:04 pm | Reply

  1437. #1436
    I wonder if Asha teamed up with RD to mock OP with that tune from Chala Murari. In my opinion, it was a poor imitation of all known OP tunes. RD achieved success and composed some beautiful music, however, he copied a lot of them from Western/Spanish tunes. I also find the shelf life of his songs to be much shorter than OP, LP, or SJ. Check out the web site below to see how many tunes he copied compared to OP or other music directors.

    http://www.itwofs.com/hindi-rdb.html

    Comment by Hemant — September 19, 2008 @ 3:11 am | Reply

  1438. At a recent concert in Delhi for the release of Shafqat Amanat Alis new album, I had the occasion to speak with a lot of youngsters about OP ji as we waited in the rain outside the auditorium. To my utter surprise, I found that 100% of them had heard of almost all his popular songs which I mentioned, yet only one (in this group of about 12) had heard of his name. The songs evoked strong resonance in these kids, and almost all lamented why have we forgotten about such great music and even greater musicians.

    It left me wondering if the inter-generational communication gap is responsible to some extent re: the fading of individual identities, and at the same time of the strength of music as a medium of communication!

    Comment by Naveen Anand — September 20, 2008 @ 11:51 am | Reply

  1439. Mr Anand
    I feel the networks are responsible for this. This Globalization ahs resulted in some undesirable elements in Indian film music. The networks , promote too much of senseles zingbang music. The advent of AR Rahman ( His tunes are good , but his lyricists are very poor) and his clones have resulted in the vanishing of good lyrics.

    Last month , I was in Kerala. There when I got into Kochi station, in the train. a group of students were singing were singing ” Hum dum mere maan bhi jayo” . They were 25-28 yrs all from Kerala. I asked them have you seen this film. No , but we saw the song in UTUBE and it is a great tune Sir ( in their Keralite accent). I was very happy to hear this. ” What about the new songs I asked them ” Sir , we sing them some times” and one fellow added ” but this song Hum Dum mere we like a lot sir”

    Deep down in Kerala the impact is such , tho North India me tho OP will be very supreme.

    Comment by gajanan — September 26, 2008 @ 12:08 pm | Reply

  1440. Kaveetaa we have crossed 30000 views!!! Is it just me who seems to have noticed?

    Naveen you make a good point there. Although I feel it may not be an ‘inter generational communication gap’ but more a matter of archiving. OPN was a couple of generations earlier. Up to RDB and the re mix option much in focus, his songs are alive. OPNs songs are liked but their identification isnt there. if I remember reading even on this thread there were the younger lot who claimed they had all heard the songs but were unaware of the composer.

    Gajanan ji..that was heartening indeed.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — September 29, 2008 @ 9:03 pm | Reply

  1441. Friends.. Mahendra Kapoor passed away on Friday. He was 74. I met him last when he attended the ‘chautha’ceremony for my father. He has been a close friend of the family.My parents knew the family well. He studied with my Uncle in St Xaviers Mumbai. He also sang a few songs penned by my father. His daughter was with me in Sophia College. A friend of mine is also married into the family.Some memorable songs he has to his credit, undoubtedly. Including OPNs compositions. May he find everlasting peace. Om.

    Jatin ji.. yes I notice too. We have indeed crossed 30000.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — September 30, 2008 @ 11:59 am | Reply

  1442. In Mahendra Kapoor, India has lost a great singer. While he was not as God-gifted as many of his contemporaries, he more than made up for it by his hard-work, passion and disciplined professional approach to singing in films.

    How about creating a Mahendra Kapoor Top 10?

    I will start with

    #1 – Kamar Patli Nazar Bijli

    Comment by Siraj Khan — September 30, 2008 @ 7:56 pm | Reply

  1443. Top-10 MK for OP will be difficult because there were so many good ones. I like some of his rare ones. How about – Jara dekhiye meri Saadgi from Nasihat?

    Comment by Hemant — October 2, 2008 @ 5:16 am | Reply

  1444. As long as MK sang as a ‘replacement’ for Rafi, I, possibly a little bit unfairly, felt that he was just a poor imitation of the magnificent Rafi. In my opinion MK really came into his own with the fabulous songs of Sambandh.

    And those of you who have been fortunate enough to listen to songs of Jaane Mehboob and Muqaddar ki baat, both unreleased films but with great music by OP , will possibly view the real soul of Mahendra Kapoor.

    My nominations will be for ‘Andhere mein jo baithe hain” from Sambandh and ‘Mera pyar woh hai’ from Yeh raat phir na ayegi.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — October 2, 2008 @ 10:38 am | Reply

  1445. Among this 14 ,
    the top one is
    Tumhara Chahane vala Khuda ki Duniya me

    chalo ik baar phir se, ajanabii ban jaaye.n ham dono.n— Gumrah

    dulhan chalI, o pahan chalii tiin ra.ng kii cholii —– Purab aur Paschim.

    hai priit jahaa.N kii riit sadA me.n giit vahaa.n ke gataa huu.n– Purab aur Paschim

    in havaao.n me.n, in fizaao.n me.n tujhako meraa pyaar pukaare—-Gumrah

    laakho.n hai yahaa.N dilavaale, aur pyaar nahii.n milataa—– Kismat

    meraa pyaar vo hai ke, mar kar bhii tumako
    ————–Yeh Raat Phir Na Aayegi

    niil gagan par u.Date baadal aa aa aa
    —-Khandaan

    tere pyaar kaa aasaraa chaahataa huu.n, vafaa kar rahaa huu.n— Dhool Ka Phool

    tumhaaraa chaahane vaalaa khudaa kii duniyaa me.n—- Kahin Din Kahin Raat ( Asha sings also, but MK cha gaya guru. Many who hear this song get goosebumps) esp these lines following lines

    “ye bAt kaise gavArA karegA dil merA
    tumhArA zikr kisI aur kI zubAn pe ho
    tumhAre husn kI tArIf AInA bhI kare
    to mai.n tumhArI qasam hai ke to.D dU.N usako”

    I doubt anybody can compose like this and the jasbad of MK here, of course OPN must have forced it out, is awesome.

    mere desh kii dharatii, sonaa ugale ugale hiire motii—- Upkar — This is almost a National Anthem after Lal Bahadur Shastri as PM.

    Neela Gagan ke tale , Dharti ka Pyaar … Humraaz. I was once in Singapore and in a gettogether with Indians and Chinese, one Chinese gentleman sang this song in his won style amd pronounciation. Well you can see how MK has influenced people who are not well versed in Hindi.

    aadhaa hai cha.ndramaa raat aadhii— Navrang with Asha Bhonsle

    Badal Jaye Agar Mali —– Bahraein Phir Bhi Aayegi.

    Yeh Ramachandra kahe gaye Siya se — Gopi.
    Dilip Kumar ada was great and the words ” Bhari Rahegi Madhushala is very relevant to post liberalised economy of India. Yes , the Madhushalas ( pubs or Drink addas are really full now)

    Comment by gajanan — October 3, 2008 @ 10:03 am | Reply

  1446. Purinder ji your selection of the two is mine too..and also Gajanan jis top 14.. hard to disagree. I would like to add ‘

    #na mooh chhupa ke jiyo aur na sar jhuka ke jiyo, ghamon ka daur bhi aaye toh muskura ke jiyo ‘ from Humraaz.

    The song mentioned chalo ik baar phir se ajnabi ban jaaye hum dono’from Gumraah..Mindblowing lyrics, great composition by Ravi and rendered soulfully by Mahendra ji.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 3, 2008 @ 3:24 pm | Reply

  1447. Friends,
    Recently Mrs OPN passed away on 25th September. Whatever might have been the diffrences between them let us not forget that she was also a part of the legend and they together composed ‘Pritam Aan Milo’ sung by C.H.Atma. So I wish that we all wish peace to the departed soul.

    After RDB & Asha copying OPN music in ‘Do Pal Ki Hai Yeh Zindagani’ from Chala Murari Hero Ban Ne on YouTube.com please check ‘Kiss Me Another’ Bolvian Music very much inspired from ‘Dekho Kasam Se Dekho Kasam Se Kehte Hain Tumse Haan’ of Tumsa Nahin Dekha.

    Please add my MK favourites

    Aap Aaye To Khayale Dil-e-Nashaad Aaya
    Aakhon Mein Qayamat Ke Kaajal
    Aaye Jane Chaman Tera Shola Badan
    Beete Huye Lamhon Ki Kasak Saath To Hogi
    Chand Chupa Aur Taare Doobe
    Dekhte Hi Tujhe Mere Dil Ne Kaha
    Dil Laga Kar Hum Yeh Samjhe
    Kahan Se Layi Ho Janeman Yeh Gulabi Chehra
    Kisi Patthar Ki Moorat Se Muhabbat Ka Irada
    Lakhon Hain Yahan Dilwale
    Maangi Thi Ek Dua Jo Kabool Ho Gayi
    Mere Desh Ki Dharti
    Meri Jaan Tum Pe Sadke
    O Shankar Mere Kab Honge Darshan Tere
    O Yaran Dildara Mera Dil Karda
    Ramchandra Kah Gaye Siya Se
    Shyamal Shyamal Baran
    Tum Agar Saath Dene Ka Waada Karo
    Yeh Hawa Yeh Hawa Yeh Hawa

    Some beautiful MK duets

    Aaj Ki Mulaqat Bas Itni
    Dhakne Lagi Dil Ke Taaron Ki Duniya
    Dharka To Hoga Dil Zaroor
    Dil Ki Yeh Aarzoo Thi Koi Dilruba Mile
    Din Hain Bahar Ke Tere Mere Ikrar Ke
    En Hawaon Mein En Fizaon Mein
    Haath Aaya Hai Jab Se Tera
    Hum Jab Simat ke Aapki Baahon Mein
    Humne Jo Dekhe Sapne Sach Ho Gaye Woh Aapne
    Jhuke Jo Tere Naina
    Jiske Sapne Hamein Roz Aate Rahe
    Meri Sason Ko Jo Mehka Rahi Hai
    Tera Nikhra Nikhra Chehra
    Tere Pyar Ka Aasra Chahta Hoon
    Tere Sang Pyar Main Nahin Todna
    Tumhara Chahnewala Khuda Ki Duniya Mein

    Some MK Classics

    Do Bechare Bina Sahare
    Gore Rang Ne Sada Naiyu Rehna (Punjabi Song with Shamshad Begum)
    Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega Woh Gana Gayega
    Jisko Nahin Dekha Humne Kabhi
    Jo Diya Tha Tumne Ek Din
    Kaisi Haseen Aaj Yeh Baharon Ki Raat Hai
    O Yaaron Ki Tamanna Hai

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 3, 2008 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

  1448. Anand..Thank you so much for sharing with us the sad news of the demise of Mrs O P Nayyar.The finality and starkness of death makes one pensive..’kya khoya aur kya paya’ kind of pensive. May the Almighty grant her everlasting peace. Do share some vignettes of her life and her story with us. We must pay her a tribute. After all she was OPNs wife and an integral part of his life, mother of his children and a dignified lady who has chosen to keep mum about her pain. She deserves a warm farewell.

    Your exhaustive list of MK songs is awesome.Thanks. So many were lost somewhere deep in the recesses of ones mind…’Dil lagakar hum yeh samjhe’..Lovely.’ Dhadakne lagi dil ki taaron ki duniya’..Oh God such melodies..’ Hum jab simamt ke aapki baahon mein”..We will never have songs like these again. Simply wonderful.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 4, 2008 @ 12:07 pm | Reply

  1449. Please can someone help me?
    I am unable to access youtube for posting songs: the difficulty is only in opening the web page with “upload” at the top right hand corner in my account. Only rarely I am able to open. It cant be the case that youtube has intentionally blocked me, because I am viewing or downloading or uploading old Hindi film songs only, but, definitely not the unmentionable abhorent stuff youtube has, which led to youtube itself being banned in many countries.
    Of course , i am able to access the videos themselves Through another software “miro” (one of the many available, but miro is safe, open source software to view or download, but not upload).
    My urge to to upload is to make youtube as complete a source as possible for OP songs.
    I would be most grateful to any one, particularly in India, who can help me out.
    I tried uk.youtube, in.youtube, opening accounts with another name etc. , but all to no avail. My first account was with the name of cumrao. When i found I could not access it , I opened a 2nd account with the name “umraochalsani” and posted a few songs in 2 days. Now, I can not access either of them accounts.
    I appeal to Kaveethaji particularly, to unravel the mystery, as you have much experience with these various channels and moving videos around. Also, is it possible to upload to Sachniti directly? It would be most satisfactory if we can make sachniti itself an exclusive repository OP’s audio and videos.

    Comment by curao — October 5, 2008 @ 12:01 pm | Reply

  1450. Har dil jo Pyar Karega. Mukesh is also there. Kaveetji . There is funda in science as well as in ancient Indian texts. ” That which is done with care and slowly gives you the best quality”. If you tell somebody to write lyrics asap , as done nowadays , you will get the paanikumwali chai quality. You have to sit for long sessions , be critical and take the time to get the best out of the singer and lyricist. OPN , SDBurman where of that class. I remember one of my friend telling me the way SD Burman bought out the best in Kishore Kumar in Aradhana for the song ” Kora Kagaz tha Maan mera” Us song me ek line hai ” toot na jaye sapne , mai daartha hu” What jasbad in these lines. Who could have imagined that Kishore with his Chanchal singing could bring out that line packed with so much emotion. It was hard work , drawn out over long hours and days and not Chat lyrics , phat gana like today’s assembly line production. Sometimes I wonder whether lyrics nowadays are outsourced to some yera , gera writers , to keep the assembly line type production of churning songs.

    Comment by gajanan — October 5, 2008 @ 12:07 pm | Reply

  1451. I congratulate anandji, Purinderji , Gajananji and others for coming up with Memorable Mahendra collections, and Kaveethaji for her enlightening comments. I fully agree with most of the opnions expressed.
    My own pick of the best 14 in descending order of excellence, among OP_MK songs:(not much different from what others suggested, but confined only to OP songs:
    1.Tumhara chahnewala
    2. Haath aaya hai
    3. Mera pyar woh hai
    4. Badi mushkil
    5.Dhadka tho hoga dil
    6. Tera nikhra nikra
    7. Kamar patli
    8. Lahon hai yahan dilwale
    9. Pyar pyar tho sub kehte hai
    10. Yeh khushi leke
    11. Ankhon me sab ki kaja
    12. Bahare phir bhi
    13. jaane tamanna kya kar dal
    14. Dil tho pehle se.

    I think that OP composed some designer songs especially for Mahendra kapoor to suit his softer tones, exemplified by Tumhara chahnewala, Haath aaya hai , Badi mushkilse, Mera pyar woh hai, yeh khushi leke. He would not have concieved such songs with Rafi. In fact there are some atypical songs of OP, but of course, easily recognisable as OP’s. In the process, both gave us, some not merely most enduring but divinely melodious songs. In the duets, Asha complemented Mahendra kapoor to perfection.

    Comment by curao — October 5, 2008 @ 6:30 pm | Reply

  1452. Come to think of it MK has quite a repertoire of memorable songs! Quite a few gems out there.. ‘Dil toh pehle hi se madhosh hai matwala hai”..ahh wonderful.

    Curao ji..I wonder why you arent able to upload on youtube. Sometimes for a few songs the html or the embed code has to be to their specifications and get to be quite a problem.

    Unfortunately we cannot upload directly on Sachiniti..but on the vodpod. I Suggest that you click on the link ‘hemant sings’ I have put up in the post. That will lead you to the site and the address I have created. We can upload a new file there of OPN numbers.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 6, 2008 @ 9:58 am | Reply

  1453. Rao sahib & Kaveetaa ji – ‘Dil to pehle se’ might be a Rafi/Asha duet from Baharen Phir Bhi Ayengi. But it is a fabulous song.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — October 6, 2008 @ 3:56 pm | Reply

  1454. Purinderji.
    Yes, it is from Bahare phir bhi aayengi.
    It is tagged with Mahendra kapoor’s name in my Library. After you pointed out,on careful hearing, it appears you are right. Then the mistake is mine as usual. And Badal jaye agar mali? it is Mk is it not? In some parts that also sounds like Rafi. It almost appears as if OP tried to modify both voices to a common mode.
    Thank you Kaveethaaji. I failed to upload again yesterday also. I was trying to do it in multi-upload, sending 4 songs simulataneously. Afte putting all ifo and tags in place, when I clicked “upload all”, it gave an error meddage “file error” for all. I will try your suggestion.

    Comment by curao — October 6, 2008 @ 6:44 pm | Reply

  1455. Kaveeta ji #117
    Indrani ji #379

    The song is ‘Deewana Hua BADAL’ not pagal.

    Kaveeta ji #792

    The beautiful song ‘Main Soya Ankhiyan Meeche Teri Zulfon Ke Neeche’sung by Rafi & Asha music by OPN ji filmed on Bharat Bhushan and ever beautiful Madhubala is from Phagun.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 8, 2008 @ 8:39 pm | Reply

  1456. Friends,
    Wishing all of you a very very happy DUSSERAH.

    Hemant ji #858
    Curao ji #860

    The action movie ‘Hong Kong’ was released in year 1962. It had Ashok Kumar,Saroja Devi,K.N.Singh,alongwith Om Prakash & Helen.It was produced and directed by Pachhi (brother of Om Prakash) music by OPN ji.

    One by one all the GEMS of our golden music era are leaving us. Just a few like Khaiyyam Saheb,Manna Dey and some others are with us.May God bless them a long happy and prosperous life.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 9, 2008 @ 1:21 pm | Reply

  1457. Anandji,
    Thank you for your info on hongkong. But, I must admit that it is very surprising to me about both Ashok and B.Saroja. I was a close followe of B.Saroja in those days, and would have remembered if she was there. I dont recall a single song recorded on her.
    Kaveethaji,
    Alas! I totally forgot how I uploaded songs earlier on vodpod. On the home page of vodpod, aftr I login to cumrao’s videos, I am not finding any clickable phrase or button to upload videos or audio from my PC, though there are instructions to load from youtube or my space etc. I am really frustrated, even ashamed at my inability to overcome this simple problem.
    In the meanwhile I am unable to even open the youtube. I spent hours on this problem futilely. My speed is OK, and other sites open OK.

    Comment by curao — October 12, 2008 @ 9:42 am | Reply

  1458. I think most OPiums will agree with me that OP has a larger no of 2-female duets or 3-female trplets than other composers. Most of them were par excellente. i think it would be agood idea to compile a list of them.
    I will start one combination: Asha-Geetha—-OR Asha-Shamshad. Oh my God!! Whcih of them is my favorite? Both equally, but, I will start Asha_Geetha.
    1. Thandi thandi hawa of Johny walker
    2. Jhuki jhuki pyar ki nazar of Johny walker
    3. Dil tera deewana oh mastani bulbul of Mr. Quartoon M.A.
    4. Is dinya se nirala of Ragini
    5. Sun sun madras ki chori of Mujrim-A precursor to the forthcoming “Ude jab jab julphen” of Naya daur, by Rafi-Asha. Though this was much more acclaimed, I personally prefer the mujrim song.
    So, a total of 5 with this combination. Are there any more?
    I request allt he borders contribute to the completion of the list with other combos

    Comment by curao — October 12, 2008 @ 10:48 am | Reply

  1459. Good news for audio collectors:
    Indian screen.com will be posting several Mahendra kapoor songs, which can be freely downloaded just by clicking on the song title.
    “Get away from India”, that was how we used to joke after seeing “Gateway of India”. with Madan mohan’s music. such was the theme of the film, but not the music. all songs of this film are posted at last.
    If my memory serves me right, Madhubala as heroine. This film and “Miss India” with Nargis, music S.D.burman were in the same mold as Jagthe raho. A person stumbles upon a no. of immoral, criminal offenses in his/her escapades.
    Siraj ji , Purinderji and other knowledgeable pl. correct me if I am wrong in the above statement. I posted a request several times if any one has some of the hit songs of Miss India. There was a Lata Binaka varshik hit also in it. im not able to recall any, but I do rememebr both films as very hilarious. Particularly Nargis in Miss India, in an unusually dynamic role.
    At present, this site has many Bengali songs by Lata and Geetha. Also many unforgettable films, off-the-beaten-track of the famous films of that era of N.Dutta, Roshan, S.D.Burman and Madan mohan.
    As i said many times, this is one of the best sites, where you can download freely any of the posted songs. They are usually at 16kbps, but, after downloading, you can convert to 128 kbps or whatever other bit rate you want

    Comment by curao — October 12, 2008 @ 11:56 am | Reply

  1460. Dear Curao Ji,
    Please refresh your music liabrary.
    #173

    1) Badi Mushkil Se
    from HUMSAYA sung by Asha & Mahendra
    2) Yeh Rut Yeh Raat Jawaan
    from SAILAB 1956 sung by Geeta
    3) Dil Ki Girah Khol Do
    from RAAT AUR DIN sung by Lata & Manna
    4) Yeh Bahkati Ghataye Yeh Mahekati Hawaye
    from RUSTOM-E-ROME sung by Rafi & Asha
    5) Pyar Mein Jokar Ban Gaye Ham
    from DUNIYA JHUKTI HAI sung by Rafi & Asha
    6) Ruk Jao Na Jee Itni Kya Jaldi
    from CHALTI KA NAAM GAADI sung by Asha
    7) Jaan Gayi Chori Tumhari Baalma
    from TEESARI GALI sung by Geeta
    8) Jaane Jigar Na Dekha Idhar
    from DILRUBA sung by Asha
    9) Jane Tamanna Kya Kar Dala
    from CID 909 sung by Asha & Mahendra
    10) Zara Si Baat Ka Huzur Ne Fasana Kar Diya
    from MUSAFIRKHANA subg by Asha
    11) Khuda Huzur Ko Meri Bhi Zindagi De Do
    from SAWAN KI GHATA sung by Asha & Usha
    12) Pucho Na Yaar Kya Hua
    ZAMANE KO DIKHANA HAI by Rafi & Asha
    13) Loota Hai Zamane Ne Qismat Ne Mitaya Hai
    from DORAHA sung by Lata
    14) Aajare Kho Diye Hai Sanam Teri Talash
    from TERI TALASH MEIN sung by Asha
    15) Tumko Piya Dl Diya Kitne Naaz Se
    from SHIKARI sung by Lata & Usha
    16) Woh Hanske Mile Humse Hum Pyar Samaj
    from BAHARE PHIR BHI AYENGUI by Asha

    #199
    Karle Pyar Wai Wai
    from BAZIGAR sung by Geeta
    music by Chitragupta

    #518
    Dar Lage Garje Badariya
    from RAM RAJYA 1943 sung by Lata
    written by Bharat Vyas
    music by Vasant Desai

    #529
    Door Bahut Mat Jaiye Leke Dil Ka Karar
    from PHIR WOHI DIL LAYA HOON by Rafi

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 12, 2008 @ 6:52 pm | Reply

  1461. I have just returned back to Boston from sub-Sahara Africa, my second home and where you look at life straight into its eyes. Internet is not always available.

    A lot of great stuff has been posted on Mahendra Kapoor and I wanted to join the chorus too, specially as it elates to OP.

    We have a fairly comprehensive list now but if we were to select three films (not songs) of Mahendra Kapoor I would say Gumraah, Hamraaz and Kahin Din Kahin Raat – the first two with Ravi’s compositions and the third in OP’s.

    KDKR was one of the 16 films in which MK lent his voice to OP for a total of 44 songs. OP and MK first went into the recording room together for the title song of Guru Dutt’s Baharen Phir Bhi Ayengi.This was no Rafi substitute/proxy etc. MK was OP’s first choice for this song while Rafi heartily sang Aap ke Haseen Rukh and two duets with Asha.

    Kahin Din Kahin Raat had 7 songs and MK featured in 5 of them. One song which I believe has not been mentioned in the posts so far is Tumhare Ye Nakhre Tumhari Shararat, which is really a very lively number!

    For the benefit of those OPIUMS who may not be aware of this fact, OP first rehearsed this song entirely in Asha’s voice and MK was to replicate Asha to precision. That process was long and frustrating, but the end-product is superb, despite the fact that the song did not become as popular as the others.

    One cannot help but feel the fabulous exposition of the sitar with that “meendd”. This was probably the last song where OP took the services of Ustad Raees Khan, before he moved to Pakistan.

    This song along with Asha’s Balma Khuli Hawa Mein (Kashmir Ki Kali) and Mere Dil Meri jaan, Tu keh De to kar Da loon mein dil ka haal Bayaan (Love & Murder) are my 3 pick-me-up songs. They have the ability to get me going in pretty much any situation, even now.

    Mahendra Kapoor – we will miss you and we know that you are probably sitting with OP entertaining God up there.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — October 13, 2008 @ 2:41 am | Reply

  1462. Anand your comments are a pleasure to read. Your knowledge is overwhelming. 🙂 Keep it up. Thank you.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — October 13, 2008 @ 9:12 am | Reply

  1463. This is for the information of Late Mahender Kapoor fans that it was not Naushad who gave him first break in Sohni Mahival (Chand Chhupa Aur). The first song sung by him was ‘Oh bedardi Janeke Na Kar’ with singer Sabita Banerjee from film Lalkar in year 1956 starring Nirupa Roy and Mahipal. The music director was Samukh Babu and lyrics writer Pandit Madhur. I shall be giving more information on rare dutes of Mahender Kapoor and Kamal Barot and other female singers.

    ok cheers

    Comment by Suresh Chander Bhatia — October 13, 2008 @ 4:47 pm | Reply

  1464. Curao Ji #1458..It is quite surprising that you werent able to upload. On you tube are you sure your login procedure is going fine?

    In any case I suggest you upload songs on the bliptv site I have created for OPN.

    http://blip.tv/file/1090963

    If you are interested please let me know and I will mail you the login password.

    Suresh Chander Bhatia ji welcome to Sachiniti and thanks for your valuable piece of information.

    Cheers!

    Anand I agree with Jatin ji ..your comments are a pleasure to read 🙂

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 14, 2008 @ 7:04 am | Reply

  1465. Kaveeta ji
    #1465

    Bahut Shukriya Badi Meherbani,
    Meri Zindagi Mein Huzur Aap
    SACHINITI Laaye.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 15, 2008 @ 10:19 pm | Reply

  1466. #815#867#1045 Siraj Khan Saheb
    #816#1045 Kaveetaa ji
    #817 Purinder ji
    #818#843#868#871 Krishna Baru ji
    #870 Hemant ji
    #980#1045 Rohan Pulaskar ji
    #1045 Nandu Belwalkar ji

    Friends,

    It takes years of struggle,hard-work,and dedication to gain a reputation,goodwill,fame & glory.It takes no less than 5 minutes to tamper & destroy it.

    Few months ago I saw an episode of Amul Star Voice of India where the judges were Jatin ji,Lalit ji,Adesh Shrivastav ji,Alka Yagnik ji & Abhijeet ji. The guest star was Ismail Darbar. In course of the programme a 17 year boy Abhas Joshi of Jabalpur sang the famous OPN number ‘Hai Duniya Usi Ki Zamana Usi Ka’ and after the song completed came Ismail Darbar on the stage,complimented the boy and patted him and then announced-“Yeh Gaana Mere Dil Ke Bahut Kareeb Hai Kyonki Is Gaane Mein Mere Waalid Saheb Ne Saxopone Bajaya Tha”

    Now please answer how could it be ?
    As per above trustworthy details by Siraj ji and other OPN fans. We all know that musician Manohari Singh the legendry Saxophonist is par excellence.Any saxophone tunes you remember from hindi film music from 50’s to 90’s almost 99% chances are played by Manohari Singh ji.It is a known fact that his most famous works include-
    Hai Duniya Usi Ki Zamana Usi Ka
    from KASHMIR KI KALI
    Bedardi Balma Tujko Mera Man Yaad Karta Hai
    from ARZOO
    Roop Tera Mastana
    from ARADHANA
    Main Aaya Hoon Le Kar Saaz Hathon Mein
    from AMIR GARIB
    Aaj Kal Tere Mere Pyar Ke Charche Har Zuban Par
    from BRAHMACHARI and hundreds and thousands more.
    It seems these current bunch of music directors (with exception to A.R.Rehman) are blunt enough not only to stolen music but unhesitant to grab the credit of famous legends.
    It is pity that some new lot of music listeners also believe Ismail Darbar’s false claims.Please see ‘Hai Duniya Usi Ki’ (Shammi Kapoor) or ‘Hai Duniya Usi Ki’ Rafi on You Tube.com and do not miss to read the remarks column below the song screen.
    I think it may be a cheap publicity gimmick by Ismail Darbar or he may be an adopted son of Manohari Singh ji.
    If that be the fact, then he should be double ashamed for neglecting his 85 years old ailing Dad’s Kidney treatment and letting him off to the help & mercy of others and OPN fans, inspite of having a sound financial status.
    At last, the juniour artiste who played Saxophone on screen in this song may be Ismail Darbar’s Father.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 16, 2008 @ 10:30 pm | Reply

  1467. Today is KARWACHAUTH

    Meri Samajh Yeh Nahi Aata Ki-

    ‘Gaay Ke Bhookhe Rehne Se , Saand Ki Sehat Par Kya Asar Hota Hai’

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 17, 2008 @ 9:49 pm | Reply

  1468. I recall seeing a post by somebody about making a film on OP Nayyar’s life, some weeks ago. It has disappeared. Whatever happenend to it?

    Comment by Dave Anand — October 18, 2008 @ 10:01 am | Reply

  1469. A few days ago radio Mirchi had this strange comment. A radio jockey called jeetu raj who is floating in the air because his popularity has been soaring made this nasty comment. When a caller called in to say that ” why dont you play old songs ” ” aap purane gaane kyun nahin bajaate”. Jeet raj replied ” kyon ki purane gaane ‘sadiyal’ hote hain!” ” SADIYAL??” This is the class of those who promote Hindi music. Detestible!! I was quite shocked.

    Comment by Krishnan — October 18, 2008 @ 11:01 am | Reply

  1470. Krishnan this is awful. Thanks for bringing it to the readers. I tried going on radio Mirchi site and logging in a complaint. Apparently they have removed the link to Mumbai and the Mumbai Vjs..I remember having seen it a while ago.I guess this has been done to remove complaints from the audience..Quite sick.

    Jitu raj has been at the receiving end of brickbats for his loud mouthedness for quite some time.Some cannot handle popularity and can only make it am excuse for arrogance.

    This what a review on Mouthshut.com says of him and of radio Mirchi

    http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Radio_Mirchi_-_Mumbai-151005-1.html

    LOL Anand..#1468. Dont agree though. I would like to know Kaveetaajis reaction to this comment. Read her latest post on Karva Chauth.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — October 18, 2008 @ 2:22 pm | Reply

  1471. Oversmartness gets nobody anywhere..even if u are Himesh reshammiya. His Karzz..puts one to zzzzzzzzz..getting to the point.Jitu raj is an a##$$#@ of the first order. Even todays MDs are flicking old tunes.

    Comment by Bhaskar — October 18, 2008 @ 4:30 pm | Reply

  1472. Friends
    With all due RESPECTS to KARVA CHAUTH.

    #1468. This was a small peice of laugh,I heard from someone.Please take it lightly as a JOKE.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 19, 2008 @ 5:30 am | Reply

  1473. Kaveethaji,
    #1465. Thank you for your concern. The problem still persists. Most of the time, youtube home page doesnt open. Even when it opens,a few times, and after I go to the upload window, fill up all the detials of the video song. put the file name etc. in place, click upload , the message “uploading” appears, but it just goes on on and on. The “upload finished” never appears!! I tried a number of paths to go to the youtube. No possibility of any faulty address, as I also tried going from my bookmarks, history entries.
    I suspect Youtube is not accepting my formats(Which are AVI, DVX format, 640×480 resolution,at 25 fps for PAL compatibility). It may be because these files are large(each song about 40 Mb) and/or Youtube is accepting only mp4 format(files are smaller in mp4). Unfortunately, Many payer hardware or software do not recognise mp4. Hence all my songs are only in AVI to make them playable in most. For example, Winamp does not play mp4.Did any one try to play a downloaded video from Youtube in winamp? I convert all the downloads also into AVI with the above mentioned parameters.
    I am surprised that no one has posted about this mp4 problem. May be most people either see the streaming video directly from youtube or they have Ipods, which popularized mp4.
    Sorry, for bothering you with my headachy problems. i will try the bliptv link you suggested. I shall try and post the result sometime today itself. Iam posting this now itself because there are frequent power cuts on sundays.

    Comment by curao — October 19, 2008 @ 9:34 am | Reply

  1474. Anand re:

    Kaveeta ji
    #1465

    Bahut Shukriya Badi Meherbani,
    Meri Zindagi Mein Huzur Aap
    SACHINITI Laaye.

    Ha ha ..all I can say and do mean.. heartfelt is Ditto 🙂

    I have seen the episode you mention Anand . Yes the inference did seem that Ismail darbars father has played the sax. Although as you rightly say it could also mean that he may have played it merely in the film as an actor. But he did say ‘mere walid ne sax bajaaya tha’ or something to that effect.

    But when you say “It takes years of struggle,hard-work,and dedication to gain a reputation,goodwill,fame & glory.It takes no less than 5 minutes to tamper & destroy it.” Let me reassure you thus.

    Nothing and no mortal can ever dare, hope, aspire or plan to destroy the hard work of an artist. Ones own karma is above all else. Shaitaan agar Bhagwaan ban jaaye to phir Ooparwaale ko kaun poochhega? Issi liye let the mischief mongers do what ever is in their capacity. Finally it only helps to dig their own grave,since a malicious deed affects the wrong doer first. Time bears testimony to this.

    A true artist merrily goes along unmindful , oblivious and uncaring, just doing his job, living his destiny and fulfilling his creative needs.

    ‘muddaii lakh bura chahe to kya hota hai
    wahi hota hai jo manzoore khuda hota hai’

    Nothing and no one thus can challenge OPNs or Manohari das work or for that matter the sincere, honest, dedicatedness of any artist. People standing along the periphery can just criticise, ridicule when they themselves arent capable of even a millionth of a fraction to do something creative on the same lines.

    Look around and you will find those who shamelessly take credit for work/efforts put in by other people, who wish to hog the limelight and beg for plaudits.

    One wonders how such people bear to live with themselves. Presumably they cannot.. hence the constant need and thirst for ‘wah wahi’, the continuous reminders to all their acquaintances of how great they are or the need for attention, for acknowledgement even of their pea sized efforts which they wear like a badge. Constantly blowing their own trumpet behind a facade of Oh-so-humble philanthropy, not realising that their masquerade is transparent and they are in fact a laughing stock. They dare often to attack those who ‘do’ and deserve credit while they themselves only whitewash their non efforts.

    You have heard of the analogy of the elephant and the dog havent you. The king of the jungle marches on triumphantly no matter the zillion dogs barking alongside.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 19, 2008 @ 12:36 pm | Reply

  1475. Dear Anandji,
    I cant thank you enough for the trouble you have taken to hunt for my early posts and supplying info and also correcting me. Much of the trouble is because I am not very familiar with hindi words and also the quality of the original recording was very bad, from Radio Ceylon days. I could not catch the words with sharp background hisses and jerks.
    Pl. do not underestimate my liking for Hindi songs because I dont know Hindi well, or because of lack of knowledge. I just can not explain why I have such a strong liking despite them.
    It was OP, Geetha, Guru and film Aarpaar that created the first craze when I was just 14!! Hence, I adored each of them.
    I am not very knowledgeable in raagaas also, but, I obserrved one thing in Darlage garje badariya of Ram rajya. There is some similarity in the mukhda with Ghayal hiraniya of Munimji of SDB, and in the antaras with those of Be dard preet nahin jaani of Qaidi by O.P.Nayyar. I do not recall straight away the exact songs , but Nayyar adapted that stile in one or two other songs as well. Any way, I like all three of them immensely. I presume they are all based on the same or similar ragas.

    Comment by curao — October 19, 2008 @ 12:44 pm | Reply

  1476. Krishnan and Jatin ji…it is really appalling to read of the comment. I guess when people express blasphemies which are untrue then why bother with responding or even getting ruffled. Its best to ignore them and carry on, regardless. Truth outshines ever other morbid darkness. Displaying ignorance is a universal malady. so like the song goes..Just chill, chill just chill 🙂

    Anand..lol.. since you have clarified on the Karva Chauth bit you stand forgiven 🙂 I take it seriously..not as a ritual so much but the underlying emotion. Anything that nurtures love should be adopted and followed. In a world today where disruptive forces seem to gather momentum, energy that fosters togetherness, harmony and ensuing peace should be respected.

    Cu Rao ji ..you are most welcome to share your problems with me. Please do not hesitate for even a moment. You tube is rather choosy of the formats they permit in an upload so you have rightly deduced that it is only mp3 that will be accepted.

    Should I mail you the password for bliptv? Else you wont be able to login and upload.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 19, 2008 @ 12:46 pm | Reply

  1477. Kaveetaa ji #1475 & 1477 ..Excellent comments.I read over a few times to enjoy the validity of your thought process. Bystanders will always remain so.

    “Look around and you will find those who shamelessly take credit for work/efforts put in by other people, who wish to hog the limelight and beg for plaudits.

    One wonders how such people bear to live with themselves. Presumably they cannot.. hence the constant need and thirst for ‘wah wahi’, the continuous reminders to all their acquaintances of how great they are or the need for attention, for acknowledgement even of their pea sized efforts which they wear like a badge. Constantly blowing their own trumpet behind a facade of Oh-so-humble philanthropy, not realising that their masquerade is transparent and they are in fact a laughing stock. They dare often to attack those who ‘do’ and deserve credit while they themselves only whitewash their non efforts.”

    Your description was so apt!! Honest to God I can name a few here 🙂

    Comment by Jatin Lall — October 19, 2008 @ 5:04 pm | Reply

  1478. Please Kaveethaji,
    Thank you very much. pl send the password and log in name. Initially I did not want to infringe on your own site. It seems I can sign up myself. But, it may be more convenient for all if I upload with your ID and PW, for easy accessibility.
    I am abandoning my efforts on youtube because It is laborious to convert to suit their format requirement. Further, Most of the songs are anyway being posted on youtube by others. I have only a few additional ones of OP: Zid and Neerajanam songs and a few others may be. However, I do have 100s of well known and less known great songs of that golden era in video.
    Some one posted a comment on the song “Tujhe pyar karlu” posted by me a long time ago. It seems “Ustad Zakir Hussain has accompanied with Tabla in that song at OP’s request. He could not refuse as he was a great fan OP!!” Surprising.

    Comment by curao — October 19, 2008 @ 7:03 pm | Reply

  1479. I happened to hear some of my old favourites and some old songs which I did not hear earlier, downloaded from Indian screen.com.
    Something that I enjoyed was songs of 24 Ghante by Bipin-Babul. There was a rock’n roll by Asha also in that film. Two other rock’N rolls in Akhri dao by Madan mohan were also my one time favorites, heard after a long time. The credit for mastering and indianizing Rock’N rolls must of course go to CR and OP.Perhaps topped that genre with Mera naam chin chin chu. But the bug had bitten almost every composer in those days, including SJ and SDB. The only exception may be Naushad of that generation. Even Vasanth desai had one in the film Mousi, if my memory is correct. Of course, Ghulam mohd, Anil biswas etc. of slightly earlier era never touched it.
    Incidentally, Indianscreen.com has posted many songs of MK. Seeing the list there, reminded me of two of his great songs not often mentioned here: Gaa rahin hai zindagi of Anchal, and Tere pyarka asra chahtha hun of Dhoolka phool.

    Comment by curao — October 19, 2008 @ 7:38 pm | Reply

  1480. # Krishnan ji
    # Jatin Lall ji

    Aare Baba Tension Lene Ka Nahin, Tension DENE Ka.

    Jeetu Raj of Radio Mirchi said ‘Puraane Gaane SADIYAL Hote Hain.

    Can someone please favour me to tell this Dog-Bitten person to find a new FATHER for himself. Who knows if tomarrow he disowns his dad saying ‘Yeh bhi PURAANE aur SADIYAL ho gaye hain.

    I wish this Khandaani Parampara that he starts, should be strictly followed by his future generations to come.

    # Curao ji
    Mahendra Kapoor’s Tere Pyaar Ka Aasra Chahta Hoon – I already mentioned in #1448.
    There is another beautiful song ‘Sansar Ki Har Shay Ka Itna Hi Fasana Hai’ from Dhund.
    I think his song from Gumrah ‘Yeh Hawa Yeh Hawa Yeh Hawa, Aa Bhi Ja Aa Bhi Ja Aa Bhi Ja was the first ECHO style song picturized in snow mountains.
    Indeed we miss a very Zinda-dil Aawaaz of Mahendra Kapoor ji. Kisi Ke Jaane Ke Baad Hi Uski Asli KADAR Samajh Mein Aati Hai.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 20, 2008 @ 9:13 pm | Reply

  1481. Other non-OP MK favorites:
    – Phool Ban Jaoga Shart yeh hai magar
    – Chood kar tere pyarka daman
    – Aaa jao aa bhi jao hum ko yuh na satavo
    – Zindagi ittafaq hai
    – Yeh kali jab talak phool ban ke khile

    Comment by Hemant — October 21, 2008 @ 9:51 am | Reply

  1482. Anandji,
    your piercing comments “He should find a new father” and “Paramapara should be followed by his future generations” are very apt.

    Yes, I saw that in your list, tere pyarka I mean. wonderful is it not? We being undeniably partial to OP, let me not lag other lovers of Hindi film music in praising good works of others. This, I keep on telling my self. N.Dutta had many wonderful compositions to his credit.
    I do not know the sequence of events in MK’s career. Was it OP who brought out the best in him and others followed or is it the other way round?

    Comment by curao — October 21, 2008 @ 7:37 pm | Reply

  1483. Friends,

    Today is the BITHDAY of HELEN ji.
    Also today is the BIRTHDAY of our SHAMMI KAPOOR ji.

    Shammi Kapoor ji is suffering from severe Diabetes and is on Kidney Dialysis three times a week but his spirits are as Yahoo! as always. But his younger brother SHASHI KAPOOR has gone into a shell. Even to get him to a hospital bed for a Pacemaker was a tough task for daughter Sanjana Kapoor. He seldom meets anyone and has a death wish.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 21, 2008 @ 10:47 pm | Reply

  1484. Anand #1481 was hillarious..True..Aise logon ko tension dene ka. But seriously is he worth it?? considering that he is promoting Himesh reshamiya as the next big thing in Bollywood!! Sab ke sab bikaoo hain saale.Paisa phenko tamasha dekho.

    The choice of MK songs is fantastic, including the ones Hemant pointed out…so many and I had almost forgotten.Sad to hear of Shammi Kapoor and Shashi. They were icons in their own way. I guess Shashi could never get out of the untimely demise of his wife Jennifer.

    Comment by Jatin Lall — October 22, 2008 @ 3:01 pm | Reply

  1485. #92
    Abed Bhai,

    Your search for Mohd.Rafi song ‘Main Kab Gata Mere Swar Mein’ ends here.
    Please go to You Tube.com and check MOHD RAFI – LIVE Video – Pyar Kisi Ka Gaata Hai. That is the song.
    Abed Bhai, you said that you have 2 Disks ‘Best of O.P.Nayyar’ You also declared that you would gladly send them to anyone ‘Free of Cost’. I will be happy if you care to send them to Kaveetaa ji for the benefit of OPN fans. Thanking You in advance.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 22, 2008 @ 8:33 pm | Reply

  1486. ” why dont you play old songs ” ” aap purane gaane kyun nahin bajaate”. Jeet raj replied ” kyon ki purane gaane ’sadiyal’ hote hain!” ” SADIYAL??” This is the class of those who promote Hindi music. Detestible!! I was quite shocked.

    Yes . This Radio Mirchi is the true Paanikumwali tribe. There are like the baseless lotta of projecting film music. Do they understand any lyrics? Arre ye log kya Jaane Adrak ka Swad. Yeh saab fast food ka loga hai. The new songs are full of bakwas lyrics , passionless, rudderless and cheap stuff. Casic n anybody sing only words without music like Rafi and Kishore did. Rafi’s Unke Khayak aate hi or the start of Pyaasa song ” Yeh Mahalo …. made even the Indian nation wake up. Just let them listen to Kishore sing Khawab ho tum ya Koyi Haqeqaat … The starting lines are without music and what an impact. The songs of Khamoshi, Safar, Aradhana ( hear the words ” Toot na Jaye … Mai Daar tha hu In Kora Kogaz tha yeh maaan mera. What a power packed emotional way of singing.

    They have the audacity to call this Sadiyal.
    The sophisticated late Ajit would retort like this ” Doobara purane gane thune Sadiyal Kaha, mere aadmi, thuzhe Aardha Sadiyal Batata wada turn by turn khane majboor karegi, thake ki thu gane bazathe waqt , chup chap munch kare. Aardha Acha aur Aardha Sadiyal Batata Wada thake just like liquid oxygen , Acha se taste lena , aur Sadiyal ku thukne bathroom jaana. Comments bhi bhand”

    Comment by gajanan — October 23, 2008 @ 10:51 am | Reply

  1487. Dear Friends..when I see the mention of stalwarts like Helen, Shammi Kapoor, Shashi kapoor etc memories come roaring on. You see I have been connected with the film industry from a young age. My father who was a great shaayar, used to revel in writing songs, almost free of cost since it was not his profession, it was a passionate hobby. He was well connected and I doubt if there was anyone from that era who had not visited our home.

    Helen ji lived almost across our bungalow. I remember seeing her often, a picture of dignity. My sister is married into the extended Raj Kapoor family. So met all the kapoors often. But my husbands family is a respected lineage as well. My father in law and Raaj Kumar were brothers as was Mahesh kaul. From my husbands mothers side, Hiren Khera the producer of many films like Jab jab Phool khile was my hubbys mamaji. They almost lived together in Hill Road bandra for many years.

    I had met Shashi Kapoor often and simply adored him in jab jab phool khile, not knowing then I would one day marry into the family. Recently I saw Shashi ji when he had come to a visit to the dentist just behind my house. Obviously a far cry from the SK I knew. I wanted to run up to him and meet him but then hesitated..not sure why.

    Hiren Uncle was very close to Anand bakshi..in fact gave him his first major break in his film ‘Mehdi lagi mere haath” with Nanda and shashi ji. Hiren uncle never worked wit any other lyricist beside Anand ji. Getting to know all these people at such close quarters has been my good fortune. My father in law a tremendous personality who wrote Namak Halal, is someone I miss greatly. He was a Clark Gable look alike and an enthusiastic body builder.His anecdotes and vignettes from his personla journey are so many that its impossible to share. Some day I will write a book. The contents will be astounding for all BW fans.

    I can go on..there is so much.. but couldnt control myself when I read Anands comment.

    May God grant them long life and good health.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 23, 2008 @ 11:01 am | Reply

  1488. #1464 / mr.bhatia : legendary singer Mahendra Kapoor started his career neither with chaand chhupa aur tare doobe ( film Sohni Mahiwal / 1958) OR aadha hai chndrama (navrang) nor with lalkar. In fact his debut film was Madmast (1953 / music: V.Balsara) and the very first song he recorded was kisi ke zulm ki tasveer hai mazdoor ki basti. For the same film he also sang a qawwali with S.D.Batish and a duet with Dhan Indorewala, who later married V.Balsara. Then he sang in madhur milan (1955 / music : bulo.c.rani), Diwali Ki Raat (1956 / music: Snehal Bhatkar / song-tere dar ki bhikhmangi hai data duniya saari ), heer (1956 / music:anil biswas) & lalkar (1956 / music: shanmukh babu) but all his songs remained unnoticed as the films were flops. In fact he came into limelight in the year 1957 when he won ‘All India Metro Murphy Singing Competition’ and was given chance to sing aadha hai chandrama raat aadhi (Navrang / 1959) by music director C.Ramchandra. The song chaand chhupa aur tare doobe was recorded later but since the film Sohni Mahiwal was released earlier, it is falsely believed that Mahendra Kapoor was introduced by music director Naushad. Success of these songs took him to Chopra camp for Dhool Ka Phool (1959 / music : N.Datta) and the rest is history.

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — October 23, 2008 @ 2:05 pm | Reply

  1489. often we speak about, n admire OPN’s ghoda songs but if i’m not wrong, no one has ever mentioned here MK’s ‘o yaron ki tamanna hai teri zulfon me phans jayein, hoga kitna khoobsoorat ye nazaara duniya dekhegi hum bhi dekhengey’ (kahin din kahin raat)…really a zabardast OPN chhaap melody…!

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — October 23, 2008 @ 2:21 pm | Reply

  1490. Hemant ji..the song Zindagi Ittefaq hai..I am a little confused. is it the one also sung by Asha Bhonsle? i didnt know MK has sung it.

    Anand #1484..thanks for the information. It is really sad to hear that their health is failing. Also your comment to Abed about sending the songs to Kaveetaa ji is wise.

    Gajanan ji..have missed you and your unique comments “This Radio Mirchi is the true Paanikumwali tribe. There are like the baseless lotta of projecting film music. Do they understand any lyrics? Arre ye log kya Jaane Adrak ka Swad. Yeh saab fast food ka loga hai. The new songs are full of bakwas lyrics , passionless, rudderless and cheap stuff.

    Sahi kaha..bhaand saale.

    Kaveetaaji..you continue to surprise. After 1488 comments you let us in on your family..wow!! I must say your humility and simplicity is touching.Please convey our wishes to your husband..also great to read about your father in law. Namak halal is my all time favorite.

    Shishir ji..der aaye durust aaye..Welcome and your information as usual is awesome.

    Comment by Krishnan — October 23, 2008 @ 5:48 pm | Reply

  1491. Kaveetaa ji #1488

    Your note on JAB JAB PHOOL KHILE remindeds me –

    1) Ek Tha Gul Aur Ek Thi Bulbul
    sung by RAFI & NANDA in Jab Jab Phool Khile
    2) Aasmaan Se Aaya Farishta
    sung by RAFI & SHARMILA TAIGORE in An Evening in Paris
    3) Aaj Ki Raat Yeh Kaisi Raat
    sung by RAFI & SAIRA BANU in Aman
    4) Yahan Badla Wafa Ka Bewafai Ke Siwa Kya Hai
    sung by RAFI & NOORJEHAN in Jugnu
    5) Dil Ko Hai Dil Ko Teri Tasveer Se Behlaye Huae Hain
    sung by RAFI & SURAIYA in Dastan

    I don’t recall if there is any other singer other than GREAT Mohd.Rafi to have sung so many songs with Heroines.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 23, 2008 @ 9:09 pm | Reply

  1492. [Edited..Please refrain from abusing ] compare “oh my darling clementine” and “ye hai bambai meri jaan” in youtube.

    http://www.itwofs.com/hindi-opn.html

    1
    Hey babu, yeh hai zamana tera [Film: Bhagam Bhag]
    From the song ‘Hay mambo, mambo italiano’, covered by Rosemary Clooney, among other singers!
    Listen to Hey babu | Hey mambo
    Ditto! Here are the origins of Mambo Italiano!
    2
    Chanda chandni [Film: Mujrim (1958)]
    From Jim Lowe’s 1957 hit Green Door.
    Listen to Chanda chandni | Green door
    Again, ditto!
    3
    Yeh hai bombay meri jaan [Film: CID]
    From the song ‘My darling Clementine’.
    Listen to Yeh hai bombai | My darling Clementine
    Copied. The version of My darling Clementine here is by Freddy Quinn. Not sure who sang it first!
    4
    Babuji dheere chalna [Film: Aar paar]
    From the song ‘Perhaps perhaps perhaps’ covered by Doris Day, among other singers.
    Listen to Babuji dheere | Perhaps
    Partly Copied. ‘Perhaps’ is the English version of the Mexican song, ‘Quizas quizas quizas’. Here’s more on the original!
    5
    Lakhon hai yahan dilwale [Film: Kismat (1968)]
    From the oldie western classic ‘Red River Valley’.
    Listen to Lakhon hai yaha dilwale | Red River Valley
    I should point out here that O P Nayyar’s localization is in top form in this track, but Mahendra Kapoor’s drawl is very similar to elaborately timed drawls in the original, besides the tune! Little is known about the original however. It seems to be an old New York State song around the turn of the 20th century called ‘In the Bright Mohawk Valley’ from which an adaptation was made to produce “The Bright Sherman Valley” (very close to the Red River). ‘Red River Valley’ looks like an adaptation of this latter tune made over into a cowboy love song. Gene Autrey’s version of Red River Valley is added here.
    6
    Yahan hum wahan tum [Film: Shreemati 420 (1956)]
    Lifted off the 1954 Billboard hit, ‘The Little Shoemaker’ by the Gaylords.
    Listen to Yaham hum | The Little Shoemaker
    I’ve been looking for this track for ages now – 5 years, to be precise when I posted a request in RMIM back in 2002! The original has also been covered by many other popular artists in the 50s, like Rosemary Clooney, Alma Cogan and Petula Clark. The English version is itself a cover of the French track, ‘Le petit cordonnier’, composed by Rudi Revil in 1953 with lyrics by Francis Lemarque. As always, a very perceptive lift by Nayyar saab! Listen to Le petit cordonnier

    Comment by Vineet — October 24, 2008 @ 8:59 am | Reply

  1493. i had first noticed that striking similarity of the song bambai meri jaan with a background tune once played in the Tex Avery Show cartoon.

    Comment by Vineet — October 24, 2008 @ 9:02 am | Reply

  1494. Shishir ji..Where were you??..long time 🙂

    Anand..#1492 as usual you bring up, like Shishir ji the most delightful bits of history. Now that you mention it, I cannot think of a single other besides the ones you mentioned.Remarkable 🙂

    Vineet..welcome but you know your abusive language, which I had to edit out, was really uncalled for. Allow me to elucidate on the matter. If you read # 1160, you will realise that it was me who pointed out a couple of songs you mentioned that OPN may have been inspired from. Read through the comments following thereafter.

    OPN may have composed for over 50 films ..Is it fair that a few songs can and should diminish the genius of the man? He is unparalleled in every other way. Lt me also draw your attention to the fact that inspirations are a regular occurrence. Thespian Raj Kapoor too did weave his stories around another film he may have seen from world cinema. Would you then feel justified in denigrating his talent? Definitely not.

    This post which is over two and a half years in the making, we have all been fair in our passion for the man. Although unashamedly in awe of OPN but never one to overlook what the world thinks or says albeit in a tone that is not offensive. I would like to keep it this way. Therefore have refrained from making it an ‘akhada’, despite some who wished to do so by proving a point, pampering egos or venting petty complexes, ..which it may have transformed into. I have disallowed an infringement of any kind only so that the post retains its original flavour and intention. I would appreciate you respect that sentiment and the underlying pristine emotion. It is literally a one stop space on everything to do with OPN. Readers from all over the world come here for information. Let us not disrespect his memory by commenting in a manner that disregards propriety.

    You seem so well informed. Focus instead on the contributions of a genius, any genius. It will undoubtedly help you grow further. Criticising or finding fault hampers the brilliance of ones spirit.
    Hope I have not hurt you..it wasnt my intention.Neither do I wish to sound didactic.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 24, 2008 @ 10:45 am | Reply

  1495. Friends,

    Before the Pre-partision days when my Late father studied in DAV college Lahore, he was two years junior to DEV ANAND saheb. Those days it was compulsory to study Urdu language,hence my dad was also very fluent in writing and speaking Urdu.

    We all must accept the fact that the real poetic lyrics and Shaayari are unexpected without Urdu. My dad was a great fan of Raja Mehndi Ali Khan and Sahir Ludhyanvi and for the music score his all time favourite was Madan Mohan saheb.

    I being under his influence started with some Urdu learning books , but found it tuff to learn without an Ustaad. But with the times I also learnt to speak Urdu. Friends, trust me – Urdu is the most Romantic language.

    Present lot of lyricts seldom have any knowledge of Urdu, so how can you expect good poetic work from them ? Just see the works of Jaan Nissar Akhtar saheb and compare with his grandson Farhan Akhtar’s. The gems of Kaifi Azmi, Samshul Huda Behari,Anand Bhakshi,Anjaan,Shailendra, Majrooh saheb are lost.

    The Gulzar of ‘Mora Gora Rang Leile’ has changed to ‘Beedi Jalile’. Little can be expected from Javed Akhtar and Sameer ji.

    God bless if both the nations once again come closer like Germany then only something wonderful can be expected.

    Shaayari is not everybodys cup of tea.

    “Shaayari Ke Liye Aalam-E-Nafazil Chahiye
    Ishq Ki Chooton Se Toota Hua Dil Chahiye”

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 24, 2008 @ 11:36 pm | Reply

  1496. Continuing from # 1496

    Anand, I agree that the lyrics department is one area in the Bollywood film-making, where quality has been most diluted, even more than music.

    Where we can we get Sahir’s

    Woh ek baat jo thee faqat aap ke liye
    Woh ek baat keh na sakay aaap hee se hum

    However, it would be unfair to come down so hard on Gulzar for Beedi Jalile. We are all well aware of many situational songs with atrocious lyrics written by Majrooh, Shakil, Sahir et al. Gulzar, Javed Akhtar & Co are doing tremendous service in maintaining their high standards in the mess out there.

    Comment by Dave Anand — October 25, 2008 @ 7:07 am | Reply

  1497. Continuing from # 1496

    Anand, I agree that the lyrics department is one area in the Bollywood film-making, where quality has been most diluted, even more than music.

    However, it would be unfair to come down so hard on Gulzar for Beedi Jalile. We are all well aware of many situational songs with atrocious lyrics written by Majrooh, Shakil, Sahir et al. Gulzar, Javed Akhtar & Co are doing tremendous service in maintaining their high standards in the mess out there.

    Comment by Dave Anand — October 25, 2008 @ 7:10 am | Reply

  1498. Friends,

    Let’s all WISH a very very HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Bengal Beauty APARNA SEN today. Last I met her at Chowringee Sales Bureau while I was in B.Com at St Xavier’s College in year 1976.

    It reminds me of her song with Jeetendra in Vishwas sung by Manhar & Suman. The song is –

    Aap Se Humko Bichde Huae
    Ek Zamana Beet Gaya,
    Apna Muqaddar Bigade Huae
    Ek Zamana Beet Gaya.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 25, 2008 @ 5:59 pm | Reply

  1499. Kaveetaa ji,

    Please hear ‘Chaska Chaska Chaska, Lokan Nu Chaska Dooji Da’ from Punjabi film Jija Sali sung by Mahendra Kapoor & Dilraj Kaur on YouTube.com

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 25, 2008 @ 7:18 pm | Reply

  1500. Anand..Thanks..I will reply in detail later. Just came in to wish all Opiums and Sachiniti readers a bright sparkling Diwali, today being Dhanteras. May this year herald peace, prosperity abundance and happiness for all of you.

    With warm regards
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 26, 2008 @ 10:16 am | Reply

  1501. Kaveetaa ji – post # 1501 and still counting. Absolutely terrific !

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — October 26, 2008 @ 8:54 pm | Reply

  1502. Dear Friends,

    I am sorry that I could not participate on Sachiniti for a while as our family needed my attention in connection with our daughter’s engagement and upcoming wedding and some house remodeling project. Further, the economic woes and depressed state of stock market have made Life very miserable.

    Hopefully Diwali, the Festival of Lights will brighten the world for all of us not just for a day but for the entire year and bring about hope and renewed enthusiasm.

    Wishing all of you a Very Happy Diwali.

    With warm regards

    Krishna

    Comment by Krishna Baru — October 27, 2008 @ 8:34 am | Reply

  1503. Happy Diwali Kaveetaaji and all readers and Opiums !!

    Krishna ji..congrats for your daughters engagement.Yes times are tough. Hope The gods deliver us from any further downstroke.

    Regards to all

    Krishnan

    Comment by Krishnan — October 27, 2008 @ 9:05 am | Reply

  1504. Dear Kaveetaa ji & All OPN fans,

    WISHING ALL OF YOU A VERY VERY HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS DEEPAWLI.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 27, 2008 @ 11:49 pm | Reply

  1505. Vineet

    You diatribe against OPN, which was edited by Kaveeta , was uncalled for. Kalyanji Anandji have the lowest copying number followed by OPN and Salil Chowdury ( 6). Anand Raj Anand and Pritam will probably reach a century if they survive for long. 6 among the number of songs composed by OPN averages out in percent is very low.

    There was a anthropologist called Margaret Mead who said that every eighth person in the world may have some identical features. If genes behave attahni, attahni, then music me tho hoga hi. I was once in Hong Kong. There was a Cantonese tune played, very identical to
    Brindaban Ka Krishna Kanhaiya – Miss Mary 1957
    I used to wonder whether it was copied . But no this Miss Mary song has very deep classical Indian music. I cannot off hand say what raag it is. Now why these tunes were identical. GOK ( God only knows).

    If your idea is to show that western music is superior to Indian music, then one thing you must have observed , when westerners play classical music ( Beethoven & others), they have notes in front of them placed firmly. Have you ever seen Bhimsen Joshi, Kumar Gandharva or the Late Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan or late MS Subbulaxmi refer to any notes or text book. This is the beauty of our culture. It comes out of intense grilling by the Guru. It is all in their brain neurons memory chip.

    I am not trying to belittle western music, it is excellent to listen, but if you have indulged in diatribe as Kaveetaji rightly points, I will surely point out this “Out of Memory” aspect, This is the greatest achievement of the human spirit ever anywhere in the world.

    Here is some homework for you.

    1 Count all the copied numbers of all music directors and then calculate the percentage of KalyanjiA, OPN and SalilC. Then rank them. Just see where these three come. For example Kalyanji A will be 4 /Total number of songs copied by all Music Directors*100.

    2. Find out how many songs each mucic director has composed and calculate the percentage copied. For example , if OPN has 6 as per the web page you have cited , then divide 6 by the number of songs OPN has composed * 100. Do it for all music directors and then rank again

    Just at glance , you will see that the new music directors will come trumps up.

    Comment by gajanan — October 28, 2008 @ 1:45 pm | Reply

  1506. Vineet ji,

    Welcome to Sachiniti. Your views and ideas may be radically different however, in a civilized world, we have room for diversity and would like to accommodate folks with different ideas. Please temper your language but do continue to participate and share your views. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — October 28, 2008 @ 4:19 pm | Reply

  1507. Krishna ji,
    This is too late to be a specific reply to greeetings and other posts. you know the reason why I did not have the mood to post any.
    Just one thing off the track of the present controversy.
    I am trying to get the video songs on DVDs. Then I remembered , your saying that my earlier atttemps did not play on your DVD player. The reason is perhaps I recorded them at 25 fps(frames per second), whihc is compatible with PAL format. All your TVs and DVD players in USA are compatible with NTSC format, which is at 29.97 fps apart from other differences in resolution settings. I think the incompatibility is with TV sets.
    CAn you pl. give me some useful feedback?
    1. Do they (The prvious DVDs I sent while in USA) play in your computer?
    2. Can you confirm from some one, may be your son, what I said above. The exact question is “Whether a video recorded in AVI -DVX format at 640×480 pixels and at 25 fps playable on your TV and DVD player?
    The reason I am posting here is if any one knowldegeable in such matters may throw some light on this. I cant test here in India as ours are any way compatible with PAL.
    I will call you after a few days before I decide how to negotiate the problem.

    Comment by curao — October 30, 2008 @ 12:01 pm | Reply

  1508. Friends,

    Today is the Death Anniversary of Dada Sachin Dev Burman who hailed from the Royal Family Of Tripura. But instead of ruling throne he decided to rule hearts of people by his melodious & memorable music.
    He remained key composer in Dev Anand’s Navketan Films and was instrumental in promoting Kishore Kumar’s early singing talents by matching the style of evergreen hero Dev Anand.
    Burman da believed that any music or any song is good if it pleases your ear and makes you sing. Once on a holiday to his native place, he was very sad while fishing as he was not able to catch a single fish since long hour. Suddenly a young boy after his bath in the pond started singing ‘Tadbeer Se Bigdi Huyi Taqdeer Bana Le, Apne Pe Bharosa Hai To Ek Daav Laga Le’ (his composition from Dev Anand’s Taxi Driver film). And YES that was THE BIGGEST CATCH of his life.
    As we all know that our OPN ji was also a great ardent admirer of S.D.BURMAN.,so we all the fans of OPN of Sachiniti pray for his soul rest in peace and Salute to pay a rich homage to one and only SACHIN DEV BURMAN ji.

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 31, 2008 @ 8:09 pm | Reply

  1509. Anand Berry , Piya those naina Lage Re … Guide ka Gana. Is there any compostion like this? SD Burman’s Guide all songs by Shailendra. Still holds numero ono. Piya those is a very difficult composition. Rupaka Taal and Teen Taal combined effect.

    Surely a great Music Director to remember for ages to come. OPN had high regard for Burmanda.

    Comment by gajanan — November 1, 2008 @ 8:49 am | Reply

  1510. Anand #1496..Was pleasantly surprised to read that your father was from DAV college Lahore. My Father was from Forman college and former PM of India I.K. Gujral was his room mate in the hostel. There was a club called Formanites in Mumbai where all the previous college mates got together every month for a dinner. It was fun meeting with papas friends. His love for raja mehdi ali Khan, sahir and our close association with Madan mohan is nostalgic. Madan Mohan ji spent many evenings at our home.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — November 1, 2008 @ 1:58 pm | Reply

  1511. Anand #1500..could you post the link please? And I have replied to your comment on the Karva Chauth post. Sorry for the delay..Diwali and all that 🙂

    Purinder ji..Thanks and please accept the accolade as well. You are no less a factor responsible for the success, as are all OPIUMS.

    Krishna Ji..So good to her from you after a gap. Please accept my heartiest congratulations on your daughters engagement. Yes I know the global meltdown is bothersome to say the least. Hold tight, have faith in yourself. All will be well.

    Cu Rao ji..Hope and pray your mood has been elevated to blissful heights. Amen!

    Gajananji..As usual informative comment..especially this “If your idea is to show that western music is superior to Indian music, then one thing you must have observed , when westerners play classical music ( Beethoven & others), they have notes in front of them placed firmly. Have you ever seen Bhimsen Joshi, Kumar Gandharva or the Late Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan or late MS Subbulaxmi refer to any notes or text book. This is the beauty of our culture. It comes out of intense grilling by the Guru. It is all in their brain neurons memory chip.”

    Set me thinking. How fantastically true!! Wow!

    Anand..Thanks for the information on Sachin Da’s death anniversary.He was indeed incomarable and a legend in his won right. Flawless compositions, innovative melodies. Too many to list. His name itself was magic. SDB again lived close to my house in Khar. he had a quaint Burmese bungalow on Linking Road which has since been taken over by Raheja Builders for their office.

    Read here :
    https://sachiniti.wordpress.com/2006/06/28/for-rd-burmanon-his-birthday/

    We feel the tremendous dearth of this category of talent these days. Wonder if the golden days of Indian music will ever return.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — November 1, 2008 @ 2:28 pm | Reply

  1512. Kaveetaa ji,
    Thank you for your good wishes. The reason for My gloom is also the same as that on which you assured Krishna ji.
    Kaveetaa ji, You were born and grew up in such an illustrious family and in such close association and proximity with great artists, I am really hesitant to say trivia and inanities in this blog. I am so completely ignorant of ragas, instruments, and even credits. i do not know any thing except that I like The songs of late 40s to 70s immensely, by all composers. Only OPN has been special to me. I am loyal to those that created that “Golden era of Hindi music”. to the exclusion of later period, to which I am least exposed.
    You mentioned in the articled cited above that RDB was a pioneer in bringing Rock’N roll to Indian listerns. Pl. correct me if I am wrong. Was it not OPN, N.Dutta and CR who did that in that period, which was often referred to as the age of Rock’N Roll with Elvis presley, beatles ruling that world and even featuring in films entirely devoted to Rock’N roll music and dances, just as Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers etc. ruled the world of tap dances and music earlier? OPN was also called jazz king among other things. This was the impression I gathered from writings in screen and film fare magazines. I am not contradicting you or any thing like that but really want to know the progress of Rock, as I like that music very much.

    Comment by curao — November 2, 2008 @ 9:48 am | Reply

  1513. Krishna garu,
    After many days I am able to access youtbe for a short time, and I posted 4 remaining songs from Zid. you asked for them long ago and I found that none else posted them. You can access them by typing “O.P.Nayyar Zid”. I don’t know why they are not showing up under O.P.Nayyar search.
    It seems that Youtube does not have Nischaiy songs. OR, are they under a different name? If any one wants I shall post its video songs, when youtube permits next time. It looks like I am fighting a war with youtube. I am sure I can conquer it.

    Comment by curao — November 2, 2008 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  1514. Gajananji, Krishna ji and Kaveetha ji.
    This is my opinion on OPN “borrowing” a few western tune bits. I agree with all your opinions , but want to add with a different perspective.
    I simply ask “So what?”. Indian music lovers have greatly benefited and entertained by that little adoption. Why should we take a defensive back-footed stance? By saying that others also did it, or OPN did it much less than others, as if it is a blameworthy offense and OPN should share that blame, but less than others. No, on the other hand, all of them SJ. OP, CR, Salil, etc. should be thanked for it. Should we not applaud OP, for bringing us “My darling clementine”, or N.Dutta for that great Rafi No. “Lal lal gaal” from “Rock rock rock” and immortalizing them? How can we ever forget that alluring duet “Halki chalki” of Tangewala? Would most of us know even their existence in western music unless they brought them to us? I congratulate them for identifying those bits and thank them for indianizing them. As it is only a small bit at the beginning of the songs and not the whole songs in most cases, it does not come under plagiarism.
    This has been a teasing remark right from the early days of “Shehnai” of CR and Aarpaar of OP. I alwys used to counter it as above.

    Comment by curao — November 2, 2008 @ 11:36 am | Reply

  1515. All forgive me for posting too many on one day. Sunday is holiday for me also, LOL, for a retired person!!! I set this day apart exclusively as my music and computer day.
    I just found some useful tool for downloading songs from Youtube, for the songs whose embed codes are not given by the author to keep it private or to seLl them in the net. Even if there is no embed code, there will still be a URL when you click on the song in Youtube. It is enough to download that song. For ex. there are some Naya andaz songs in youtube right now, but not automatically downloadable.
    the tool is: “easy video downloader”. Download it and install. However, you can use it to download one song at a time. Thus this software is useful, where other downloaders like “Miro” fail to automatically download. Some people who post the songs prevent them from being automatically downloaded. and this is the way to negotiate that problem.
    Kaveetaaji, It was from you i knew about embed code and all that, and progressed to this, though I still could not unravel the mystery of Youtube waging war against me. I hope there is nothing legally wrong in downloading like this.
    I am giving such tips from tyme to time to make some tasks easy for people who do not have time to search and test.
    It is certainly not to gloat over my (non existant) prowess in softwaare. Far far from it. I have time and so, I search and do it as a hobby.

    Comment by curao — November 2, 2008 @ 12:55 pm | Reply

  1516. Friends..Shri B.R. Chopra passed away this morning. Deep sense of sadness since he was like an older brother to my Dad. His funeral is this evening. But I avoid attending funerals. Probably will be going for the chautha ceremony. BR Uncle was like a ‘gentleman professional’. Totally rooted and thoroughly humane. He had a unique sense of cinema quite his own. He studied to be a lawyer while in Chakwal,Pakistan, where my family and his lived in the same compound, adjacent bungalows.In fact my mothers ‘doli’ went to his residence first. Always dressed in spotless white with an affable manner, he exemplified a good naturedness which was his trademark.

    He built an empire which will stand tall for generations. I recall seeing the model of his present bungalow while he was in his previous house in Juhu. At the time Yash uncle was also living with them and was like a pampered son. Their new bungalow was among the first to be built in Juhu and was the cynosure of all eyes. I remember the tree house yash uncle desired to build there, and did. Such memories..But all said and done BR uncle has had a long happy eventful life of 95 years where he garnered immense respect and accolades. May the Almighty grant him everlasting peace.

    A great human being and a stalwart who will always be mentioned in Bollywood history in glowing terms..

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — November 5, 2008 @ 1:49 pm | Reply

  1517. CURAO ji..your comments are always a pleasure to read. Please do no hesitate or even inhibit yourself from posting as many or as often as you like.

    As for #1513 “Was it not OPN, N.Dutta and CR who did that in that period, which was often referred to as the age of Rock’N Roll with Elvis presley, beatles ruling that world and even featuring in films entirely devoted to Rock’N roll music and dances, just as Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers etc. ruled the world of tap dances and music earlier?”

    I think we should differentiate between pop and rock and also merely the use of western instruments vs rock, in Bollywood. according to me it was with “Teesri Manzil” and ‘ O haseena zulfon wali” and RDBs later music that the
    whole beat changed. Elvis and beatles used Sitar etc but that is really not what I was referring to. I maybe wholly wrong..but this is what I have gleaned over the years. Willing to be corrected.

    #1515 you mention “I simply ask “So what?”. Indian music lovers have greatly benefited and entertained by that little adoption. Why should we take a defensive back-footed stance?”

    Lol..I understand your point of view Raoji. But you know using even a piece of melody and presenting it as ones own doesnt quite pass the test of ethics. Unless one declares openly prior to the release for public consumption that this piece of work has been inspired from so and so. No harm there imo.In any case OPNs repertoire is too formidable to ven bother with such trivial adaptations. It may have been on the insistence of the Producer or may have been a melody that OPN found mesmerising. Media wasnt so penetrative then so maybe the need to clarify may not have arisen. Or I am certain OPN would have displayed no qualms in owning up to it.

    Thanks for the tip in #1516.And please you dont have to thank me for the embed code nifty…its nothing really.

    Regards
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — November 5, 2008 @ 2:05 pm | Reply

  1518. Friends,

    It is a sad day in the history of Indian Cinema. Today we have lost a great personality Shri Baldev Raj Chopra. The Maker of numerous hit films – Afsana, Ek Hi Rasta, Dhool Ka Phool, Waqt, Ittefaq, Naya Daur, Gumrah, Daastan, Hamraaz, Kanoon, Dhund, Insaaf Ka Tarazu, Sadhna, Karm, Nikah, etc etc and many more.
    He was honoured with Best Director award for KANOON in 1960 and Life Time Achievement Award in 2003.We saw him getting the most prestigious DADA SAHEB PHALKE AWARD in 1998. He was very much instrumental in carving the carrers of Yash Chopra, Pran Chopra, Dharam Chopra, Ravi Chopra, Mahendra Kapoor, Asha Bhosle, Music Director Ravi, N.Datta, and actor Raj Babbar and many others. His films were mostly based on love triangle with great music, excellent story, lyrics, rich direction, good locations and lastly with a social message in it.
    We all the OPN fans of SACHINITI pray to the Parampita Parmatma to grant peace to the departed soul and lots of courage to his family to bear this tragic loss.

    Comment by Anand Berry — November 5, 2008 @ 8:22 pm | Reply

  1519. #1510
    Gajanan ji,

    Indeed there is NO MATCH to GUIDE songs composed by Dada S.D.Burman. EACH of its song is a GEM. Be it ‘Wahan Kaun Hai Tera’ , ‘Allah Megh De Pani De’ sung by SDB still remain a listeners delight. Since last few days I am looking for a SDB song “Piya Sang Khelo Holi, Phagun Aayo Re” sung by Lata from Phagun 1973.

    Comment by Anand Berry — November 8, 2008 @ 10:09 pm | Reply

  1520. Kaveeta ji, #1518,
    My response to the 2nd point first. When you point out the question of Ethics, you are absolutely right. No defence against that. All of them who took bits should have at least acknowledged. The transgression from what is correct-Let it rest as an aspect of rectitude which they did not follow. To that extent they are all morally guilty. I fully agree with you.
    Somehow, in those days very rarely if at all, Things went on without such niceties.
    Those songs, where a bit here and a bit there were taken from others, Indian or western, happen to be my great favorites. In fact, I happen to know more such songs than mentioned by Vineet of OP. It is never the case with OP at least, the whole composition was a copy.
    you might have observed that I never commented on the personal complex relations among singers and composers and others. i am solely devoted to liking or not liking the songs themselves, singing and tunes and music. I always wanted my pleasure to be unalloyed by not allowing other factors to intrude.
    On the question of rock’n’roll, first let me admit that i dont know what exactly is rock and what is not. I was under the impression that rock was, and always is, only pop and There was never classical about that. I may be totally wrong in that impression, and am willing to be corrected. But there is no doubt, that it has its origins in 50s and 60s both in west and Indian. The difference is what you yourself pointed out. The instruments used and stemming from that, the beat. During that era, it was mainly guitar, drums and saxophone, and it was easily recognisable as rock. Now they use other instruments more prominently. The rhythm and beat are different, for, Rock’n’roll is popular in the west even to latest teenage singers like Hannah Montana. The later day rock and that of present day are different and not easily recognisable as in the former era. the type of dancing also changed. the most conspicuous change is in the absence of rhythmic clapping sounds now.
    I am pasting below an extract from Google which has a tangential bearing on both the aspects under our discussion.
    Ranging from Punjabi folk-music-to-western rock-n-roll,-to-pure Indian classical-to-Pop-to-fusion. OPN had it all.Op was to music what Kapil Dev was to cricket. A true rebel if there was any. Broke away from the tradition, established his own style,cooked a snook at the establishment, set trail blazing trends & traditions; instrumentalists to be paid before recording begins, Music Director, lyricist,singers, and all technicians to be paid before the final version is readied for pressing into records. He invited famous instrumentalist masters from all over India just to play a particular piece, Halim Zafar Khan, Pt.Shiv Kumar Sharma, Pt.Hari Prasad Chaurasia, Pt. Shanta Prasad, all have played for OPN. OPN refused to do anything with Lata & Mukesh ( then patronised & monopolised by Shanker Jaikishen), nobody could believe that a music director could survive without Lata, OPN did it. Rediscovered, rejuvenated,polished and relaunched Asha Bhosle in a new avataar,exploited Rafi’s talent to the hilt, introduced a revolutionary style of music that made the industry sit up and take notice. Unique sense of rhythm, metronomically precise beats, perfect to a nano-second (in those days of no electronic timers) made him known as the Rhythm King.The horse-hoof beat he introduced in Tumsa nahin dekha, became a trade mark of OPN. Youthful zest (jawani-ki-masti),seduction and sensuality, were expressed beautifully in OPN compositions…so irreverent and blasphemous in those days! OPN broke on to the scene with an aplomb, people lapped up his music in Nayadaur, Mere Sanam, Tumsa Nahin Dekha, Phir wohi dil.., Sawan ki ghata, Kalpana, Jalinote, Howrah Bridge etc etc…countless hits. Shanker Jaikishen, then ruling the roost, were so stung by OPN that they composed a special song “tin kanastar peet peet kar “ to deride and denigrate OPN style of music. They did the same to RD Burman too with a special song “ Kauva chala hans ki chaal”…but who cared!!

    OPN was a pathbreaker in many ways, first to use Santoor, Taar Shehnai, Gul tarang, Hoofbeat, medley chorus, hawain-guitar,cleo-voilin and synthesiser.Dholak-tabla-drums combination was a speciality. (mera naam chin chin chu) Many famous composers of the time got “inspired”by OPN compositions, and the format was copied without ever bothering to acknowledge the talent of OPN. Some examples; 1. “Tu hai mera prem devta” from Kalpana inspired Naushad to compose “ik shahenshah ne banwake hasin Tajmahal in Leader. 2. Hoof beat was used by Naushad in Kohinoor..”koi pyar ki deke ” 3. “ Chand jard jard hai.”.from Jaalinote inspired Shanker Jaikishen to compose “ajeeb dastan hai yeh” in Dila apna…, and Laxmikant Pyarelal to compose “who hai jara khafa khafa” in Shagird. Out and out sexy, seductive,western number “yeh hai reshmi zulfonka” shook up even the puritan Naushad who praised it unabashedly. This trail blazing s-o-s number was done by OPN much before Donna Summers(love to love you baby), or Cerrone( love in C-minor) got out of high school! OPN did for once use Mukesh to sing the superhit “chal akela chal akela” which perhaps was the last big hit of OPN. He , however never used Lata . I think neither he used Kishore.

    Comment by curao — November 9, 2008 @ 12:43 pm | Reply

  1521. Friends,

    You must have enjoyed some beautiful songs of :-

    Shamshad Begum with Mohd.Rafi
    Shamshad Begum with Mukesh
    Shamshad Begum with Talat

    But a song of Shamshad Begum with KISHORE KUMAR ! That seems to be rare and UNUSUAL combination. As far my memory goes there are just-

    Chana Jor Garam Babu Main Laya Mazedaar from NAYA ANDAZ
    Hum Aur Tum Dono Rahen Ek Saath from NAUJAWAN
    Jo Tum Karo Main Kar Sakta Hoon from ADA
    Meri Neendon Mein Tum Mere KHwaabon Mein Tum from NAYA ANDAZ
    O Madam Do Se Ho Gaye Ek Hum from ASHIANA

    We are indebited to OPN ji for giving us a rare unusual combination hit of SHAMSHAD BEGUM with KISHORE KUMAR “Meri Neendon Mein Tum Mere Khwaabon Mein Tum” which no other composer could give.

    Once again HATTS OFF to SHAHENSHAH-E-SANGEET OPN ji.

    Comment by Anand Berry — November 9, 2008 @ 6:39 pm | Reply

  1522. #1522 : here are other KK-SB songs…
    1.mere ghar ke aage do do galiyaan (rimjhim/khemchand prakash)
    2.kahan chale sarkar, kahan chale (hamara ghar/chitragupt)
    3.jalti hai duniya tera mera pyar hai(pyar/SDB)
    4.aai bahaar hai hum beqarar hain (hamari shaan/chitragupt)
    5.taraste hain tadapte hain (chham chhama chham/OPN, it’s SB not asha as mentioned)
    6.aye babu mai na karoon teri naukri (shrimatiji/jimmi-KK’s yodelling only)
    7.nain mila lo pyar ka dar hai(shrimatiji/jimmi-song dropped from film)
    8.haye ashiquon ne ishq ko ulat pulat kar diya(shrimatiji/jimmi)
    9.tera mera ho gaya pyar(sindbad the sailor/chitragupt)
    10.mohe la de naulakha haar(naulakha haar/bhola shreshtha)
    11.gori ke naino me nindiya bhari(angaarey/SDB)
    12.kunwaron ka bhi duniya me khuda hota(mastana/MM)
    13.meethi narangi lena, lena anardana(rajdarbar/chitragupt)
    14.tumhi se pyar tumhi se qarar(naya andaz/OPN)
    15.saiyan raja la de gale ka mohe haar re(naya andaz/OPN)
    16.kuchh bhi kahein ye duniyawaale(jauhar mehmood in goa/KA)

    thus KK n SB sang a total number of 21 songs together…their first song was in rimjhim (1949) n last in JM in goa (1965)…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — November 10, 2008 @ 4:49 pm | Reply

  1523. Thank you shishirji for your comprehensive list

    Comment by curao — November 10, 2008 @ 6:37 pm | Reply

  1524. #1523

    Songs of Shamshad Begum & Kishore Kumar to be added in the list.

    Aaj Suhani Raat Re – Tu Aaja Re Ke Dil Hai Beqarar (Naya Andaz/OPN)
    Dil Jale Hawa Chale, Teri Yaad Mein (Ilzaam/Madan Mohan)
    Kabhi Bhulake Kabhi Yaad Aake (Joru Ka Bhai/Jaidev)

    Thus the new total of their combination comes to 24 songs.

    Comment by Anand Berry — November 10, 2008 @ 10:46 pm | Reply

  1525. if other than duets, KK-SB ensembles i.e.group songs in more than two voices as those mentioned in #1525 are to consider, here are some more…

    1.mere ghar ke aage (rimjhim/khemchand prakash-this was recorded as a duet too)
    2.ye duniya hai bazar(chham chhama chham/OPN)
    3.arey re mujhe jaane do udhar(nazariya/bhola shreshtha)
    4.tiggi chaukki …ho nache mere aangan me munna(mastana/MM)

    thus total 21 duets & 7 ensembles…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — November 11, 2008 @ 8:26 am | Reply

  1526. #1526

    Arey Re Mujhe Jane Do Udhar – KK with Asha Bhonsle.
    Naache More Angna Mein Munna Pyara Pyara – KK with Mohd.Rafi.

    Comment by Anand Berry — November 11, 2008 @ 5:24 pm | Reply

  1527. Anand sahib and Shishir ji – it is clear that you both have profound knowledge of all the old songs. Would you by any chance have a complete list or the precise number of the Geeta Dutt -Rafi duets sung under the baton of OP Nayyar ? I have been collecting OPN songs for years and my prized possession presently comprises several Geeta-Rafi duets. I really want to know how many more Geeta-Rafi duets are there, to identify,seek and possess.

    Thanks in advance.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 11, 2008 @ 5:33 pm | Reply

  1528. #1528 dear purinderji, here is the list of Rafi-Geeta duets under OP’s baton…

    AARPAAR (3 SONGS)
    1. sun sun sun zalima
    2. mohabbat kar lo (an ensemble but Suman K.pur’s lines were removed from it)
    3. na na na na tauba tauba

    MR.& MRS.55 (3 SONGS)
    1. jaane kahan mera jigar gaya ji
    2. chal diye banda nawaz
    3. udhar tum haseen ho

    MUSAFIRKHANA (1 SONG)
    1. achchha ji maaf kar do

    BHAGAMBHAG (1 SONG)
    1. darshan kab doge (only Rafi’s part picturised)

    CHHOOMANTAR (2 SONGS)
    1. gham nahi kar muskura
    2. ghareeb jaan ke hum ko na tum

    CID (2 SONGS)
    1. ankhon hi ankhon me ishara ho gaya
    2. aye dil hai mushkil jeena yahan

    MR.LAMBU (1 SONG)
    1. aa mere dildar kar le humse naina char

    SHRIMATI 420 (2 SONGS)
    1. humko chhod ke kahan jaoge
    2. yahan hum wahan tum mera dil hua hai gum

    BADE SARKAR (1 SONG)
    1. jahan jahan khayal jaata hai

    JOHNY WALKER (1 SONG)
    1. bach ke balam chal ki rasta hai mushkil

    MAI BAAP (2 SONGS)
    1. tu dil mera lauta de
    2. dekho ji dekho meethi ada se

    USTAD (1 SONG)
    1. kya kya kya kya dil me chhupa hai tere

    12 O’CLOCK (2 SONGS)
    1. tum jo huye mere humsafar
    2. dekh idhar aye haseena

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — November 11, 2008 @ 6:12 pm | Reply

  1529. Thanks a million, Shishir ji.Much appreciated.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 11, 2008 @ 6:30 pm | Reply

  1530. #1527
    the songs mentioned in #1525 & #1527 are ensembles and NOT duets…details of these ensembles are as follow…

    1. arey re mujhe jaane do udhar (nazaria / KK, SB, ASHA BHONSLE)

    2. tiggi chaukki…ho nache more angan me (mastana / KK, SB, MOHAMMAR RAFI)

    3. mere ghar ke aage do do galiyan (rimjhim / KK, SB, mohna)

    4. balle balle dil jale hawa chale (ilzaam / KK, SB, sundar, chorus)

    5. ye duniya hai bazar babu (chham chhama chham / KK, SB, asha bhonsle, sulochna kadam, jagmohan)

    6. kabhi bhula ke kabhi yaad aa ke (joru ka bhai / KK, SB, balbir, chorus)

    7. aaj suhani raat re (naya andaz / KK, SB, rafi, chorus)

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — November 11, 2008 @ 6:54 pm | Reply

  1531. C U Rao ji,

    Thanks for adding more songs of the movie Zid. The songs “Dard E Dilki” and “Aap Qatil Hai” are good. Some time back Shishir ji pointed out the best song from this movie is a song by three female singers – Kavita Krishnamurthy and Joglekar sisters (pardon me if I did not spell the names correctly). Hopefully we will get this song from Sishir ji soon. Among the songs of Zid on Youtube, the one I like the most is “Tujhe Pyar Karlu”. Thanks again for taking time to write elaborate letters and taking time to add more songs of Zid and Nischay to Youtube.

    I hope to see you and a few other admirers of O.P. in December when I visit India. Please give me some time to respond to other points raised by you earlier on this blog.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 12, 2008 @ 9:30 am | Reply

  1532. Shishir Krishna Sharma ji,

    It’s good to see you again contributing and sharing your knowledge on this blog. For a while, you were quiet and we were wondering why Sishir ji is not writing on this blog. Some time back you had mentioned that a song from the movie “Zid” sung by three females is the best song from this movie. Can you please share this song with us?

    I am planning to be in India in December. Can I get this song from you when I visit India. You can reach me at krbaru@hotmail.com Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 12, 2008 @ 9:51 am | Reply

  1533. krishna baru saheb, this song from ‘zid’ is ‘khoone jigar se o likh denge hum to pehla pehla salaam sanwariya ke naam’ (Kavita K, ranjana joglekar, madhuri joglekar / penned by noor dewasi)…so far ‘the best’ is concerned, this is what i feel…others my differ as per their personal choice…i wud definitely love to share this song with you, but donno how? i have songs of this film on LP record and not in my computer…u r welcome at my home when u visit india in december…i’ll try to transfer not only this but many other songs like those from ‘aisa bhi hota hai’ (1.ram jaane-asha / 2.o meri gori gori jaan-KK / chand raton ko – asha / 4. jiska rakhwala bhagwan – rafi) OR akalmand, dil aur mohabbat etc.etc. songs from records to cassettes for you…thanks…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — November 12, 2008 @ 1:34 pm | Reply

  1534. Wonderful contributions here by all the Maharathis..am overwhelmed.

    Dr Rao has posted this comment on the “Contact’ page so am copy pasting it here since it will be of great interest to all us opiums.

    Quote:

    1.I have started posting rare video song clips of Shri Nayyar’s compositions on YOUTUBE and Google Video.

    I need to bring this to the attention of all O.P. Nayyar Fans. You find below a few links:

    “Mai Mai Mai Qartoon..” Film: Mr. Qartoon M.A.
    Asha Bhosle, Shamshad Begum and Mohammad Rafi
    Lyric: Hasrat Jaipuri Music: O.P. Nayyar

    “Chale Ho Kaha Karke Jee Beqarar..” Film: Bhagam Bhag
    Mohammad Rafi sings for Kishore Kumar
    Lyric: Majrooh Sultanpuri Music: O.P. Nayyar
    Featuring: Shashikala and Kishore Kumar

    O.P. Nayyar: Mohammad Rafi “Playbacks” for Kishore Kumar

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=226681920240011102

    Thank you.

    Dr. Nag Rao

    Comment by Dr. Nag Rao — November 12, 2008 @ 1:47 pm

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — November 12, 2008 @ 4:11 pm | Reply

  1535. Shishir ji,
    Re: Darshan kab doge of Bhagam bhag. I always wondered why such a wonderful tune was so short. I now know , only from your post, that it was Rafi-Geetha duet, but, only Rafi part was picturized. Oh !! How much I love to hear Geetha singing that other part?
    I too, love to get s few songs from your list incl. the Zid song. To transfer these songs from your LP to PC, I know how to do it. I also did it . But it needs some patience and time for the first few songs at least, and to maintain good quality. Later, it is a routine affair.
    You must be having a computer mike? That is enough.
    If you are keen on doing this,, you can contact me at .
    We can take up from there.
    You are so knowledgeable, that you can perhaps, or any other boarder here can clarify the following?
    1. Is the song ” Kuch kuch hone laga” by Asha is also from Aisa bhi hotha hai or not? That film with so many wonderful songs is an unexpected and unaclaimed bonus from Nayyar to his fans. I have the audios of those songs, thanks to another fan OPN, which I can share with you.
    2. the song tere teere nazarka balam in bhagam bhag picturised on Bhagwan and Smrithi biswas a Rafi-Geetha or Rafi-Asha duet?

    Krishna ji,
    You are always most welcome you know.
    Tujhe pyar karlu of Zid is my favorite too. It is another “Rasgolla” song from Nayyar.

    Comment by curao — November 12, 2008 @ 8:09 pm | Reply

  1536. Rao sahib – I believe that ‘Kuch kuch hone laga ‘ is from the movie “Dhake ki malmal” and could fact be an Asha- Shamshad Begum duet .

    Perhaps one of the Maharathis, to use Kaveetaa ji’s terminology, can throw more light on this.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 12, 2008 @ 10:50 pm | Reply

  1537. curao sahab, i don’t hv a mike but shall definitely buy one n try to transfer whenever i get time…as purinderji has mentioned, ‘kuchh kuchh hone laga’ is an AB-SB duet from dhake ki malmal (1956) whereas aisa bhi hota hai was released 15 years later i.e. in 1971 and there were only 4 songs in this film released on a set of two SP records (1.ram jaane kiski laagi haye mujhko najariya-asha / 2.o meri gori gori jaan mai hoon tera ik deewana-KK / 3.chand raton ko nikle na nikle- asha / 4.jiska rakhwala bhagwan bigaade kya uska insaan – rafi)…thanks a lot for your kind offer but i already have ‘kuchh kuchh hone laga’ in my collection…’o tere teere nazar ka balam’ from bhagam bhag (1956) is an ASHA-RAfI duet…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — November 13, 2008 @ 12:05 pm | Reply

  1538. #1536 n #1538 curaoji, i think i cudn’t understand correctly, which film tracks you spoke about…is it ‘dhake ki malmal’ OR ‘aisa bhi hota hai’?

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — November 13, 2008 @ 12:21 pm | Reply

  1539. Shishir ji,
    But you Clarified my doubts. Thank you very much and to purinderji.
    Kuch kuch hone laga was acquired by me as Asha song with no other details. I did not know that SB was also there, but, she could well have been. It must be from Dhake ki mal mal as you both said.
    And so “oh tere teere” is Rafi_Asha song. Was there no Geetha at all in bhagam bhag, except in Darshan kab doge bolona, which any way was not in the film?
    Oh, I meant Aisa bhi hotha hai songs. My offer was prompted by your saying that you have them in LPs and need to transfer. I have them ready on my PC in mp3 format, and can be sent easily.
    I have only 3 songs from Dhake ki mal mal. Jadugar sanwariya, Diya tho jala, and now as you corrected me kuch kuch hone laga.

    Comment by curao — November 13, 2008 @ 7:38 pm | Reply

  1540. Shishir ji,
    thank you for the lisitng of Rafi-Geetha songs. It helped me also to identitify the missing songs.
    I find only 3 are missing.
    Kya kya kya kya dilme of Ustad, aa mere dildar of Mr. Lambu, and Darshan kab doge of Bhagam bhag(Part sung by Geetha). Not bad, but, being a Geetha fan I wish to collect these three. I hope some one will help me out. I can share the rest of the songs with others.

    Comment by curao — November 14, 2008 @ 6:10 pm | Reply

  1541. Shishir ji,

    Thanks for your response on my request for the Zid song with three female ck singers. If you and CU Rao ji can work out a way to transfer this song to Rao ji then Rao ji will distribute to every one.

    I definitely would like to take time to see you in my next trip to India.

    My Friends, OPIUMS,

    As a matter of fact, it will be nice if all of us, Opiums can get together for a day. Bombay or Delhi could be the place.

    I will be in Hyderabad from Dec. 11th through 20th and then I will be in Delhi until January 8th. Hopefully all of us can meet and get to know each other better.

    Another idea I would like to share is a T-Shirt with a picture of O.P. on the back and the front can read ” Visit Sachniti. Meet O.P. Fans on Web”. I am open to any other ideas on designing the T-Shirt. I would like to get the shirts printed and bring them to India. If interested in a T-Shirt, please send me your size.

    I can be contacted at krbaru@hotmail.com

    Looking forward to your reaction to my ideas.

    Have a nice Sunday.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 16, 2008 @ 8:31 am | Reply

  1542. Krishna garu,
    I am already sold on the T-Shirt concept. I just suggest an adjective for OP somewhere on the pic. May be something like “Rhythm king”, The epithet most often used since the days of Aarpaar.You can decide as per others’ wishes also.
    We would any way meet in Vijayawada.
    If there is significant response for a meet in Delhi/Bombay, I can manage Delhi, though somewhat difficult for me to travel.

    Comment by curao — November 16, 2008 @ 11:53 am | Reply

  1543. Krishna – good to know that you plan to come to Delhi later next month. It will be great to meet up with you. Please email me your contact details while you are in Delhi.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 17, 2008 @ 8:42 am | Reply

  1544. Dear Opiums,

    Chanced upon some information about OP songs in the Binaca Geet Mala(BGM) annual countdowns from the net. Many of you will recall that Mr Ameen Sayani hosted BGM for years and made it the only recognised Billboard Chart for Hindi movie songs. I think BGM started in 1954 and for the first 3 years its annual countdown was limited to 16 songs. In subsequent years the number was increased to 32.

    I can not really verify the accuracy of the information, but it looks pretty accurate to me. So here goes:

    1954

    # 3.Ye lo main haari piya (Aar Paar)

    1955

    #16.Udhar tum haseen ho idhar dil jawaan hai (Mr & Mrs 55)

    1956

    #10.Piya piya piya mora jiya (Baap Re Baap )

    # 9.Aankhon hi aankhon mein ishaara ho gaya (C I D)

    # 6.Leke pahla pahla pyaar (C I D)

    #1.Ai dil hai mushkil jeena yahaan (C I D)

    1957

    # 23.Thandi thandi hawaa poochhe unka pataa (Johnny Walker)

    # 20.Ude jab jab zulfen teri (Naya Daur)

    # 17.Main Bambai ka baboo (Naya Daur)

    # 16.Maang ke saath tumhara (Naya Daur)

    # 8.Antam fantam chhod de babu (Ham Sab Chor Hain)

    1958

    # 29.Chhor lutere daaku phire hain aawaara kahin (Ustaad,1957)

    # 27.Surmaa mera niraala (Kabhi Andhera Kabhi Ujala)

    # 18.Ik pardesi mera dil le gaya (Phagun)

    # 17.Pyaar par bas to nahin hai mera (Sone Ki Chidiya)

    # 15.Eent ki dukki paan ka ikkaa (Howrah Bridge)

    # 14.Sar par topi laal haath mein resham ka rumaal (Tumsa Nahin Dekha)

    # 10.Yoon to hamne laakh haseen dekhe hain (Tumsa Nahin Dekha,1957)

    1959
    # 27.Main main main cartoon (Mr Qartoon MA,1958)

    1962

    # 25.Hongkong China meena Singapore (Hongkong)

    # 24.Aap yoon hi agar hamse milte rahe (Ek Musafir Ek Haseena) Khan,MD- O P Nayyar

    # 20.Mujhe dekhkar aapka muskaraana (Ek Musafir Ek Haseena)

    # 15.Bahut shukriya badi meharbaani (Ek Musafir Ek Haseena )

    1964

    # 19.Banda parwar thaam lo jigar (Phir Wohi Dil Laaya Hoon,1963)

    # 7.Ye chaand sa roshan chehra (Kashmir Ki Kali)

    1966

    # 5.Huzoor-e-waala jo ho ijaazat (Yeh Raat Phir Na Aayegi)

    1969

    # 24.Dil Ki Awaaz Bhi Sun(HumSaya)

    # 13.Kajra Mohabbatwala (Kismat)

    # 4.Chal Akela Chal Akela (Sambandh)

    Your comments and corrections will be most welcome.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 17, 2008 @ 8:51 am | Reply

  1545. Purinder Ji,

    I applaud you for bringing another topic on BGM Annual Count Downs to highlight another dimension of O.P.’ success. One movie missing from your list is “Mere Sanam”. This movie was released in 1965.

    For sure, Asha’s song “”Jayee Aap Kahan Jayenge Ye Nazar Lautke Phir Aayegi” was number 17 in the annual count down in 1965 or 1966.

    A couple of songs “Humdum Mere Maan Bhi Jao” by Rafi and “Yeh Hai Reshmi Zulfon Ke Andhere Na Ghabaranaaye” by Asha were featured in the regular Binaca weekly programmes. Though Humdum Mere was a mega hit, I don’t know if it made into the annual count down as this process allowed only 32 songs to be accorded this top honor and possibly, selection was limited to one song from this movie due to politics and lobbying from other quarters in addition to competition from other MDs.

    I am sure more comments will follow.

    I will be in touch with you through e-mail and hope to meet you in person soon. Please let me know your ideas on the T-Shirt project. I am not trying to make a buck. As a matter of fact, I would like to show my appreciation to a few Opiums by giving it as a gift. Let’s talk about this in e-mail.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 17, 2008 @ 5:51 pm | Reply

  1546. Dear friends..sorry for the silence on my part. My son wasnt too well so couldnt bear to tear myself away for even a minute. By Gods grace he is much better now.

    Krishna ji the idea of the T shirts is simply superb!! it would be wonderful to meet up with you personally in case you plan to visit Mumbai. Do keep us well informed. I wish other Opiums in Mumbai would also participate like Shishir ji, Tushar Bhatia et al.

    Purinder ji..the BGM topic is simply fantastic although I may not be able to contribute to it personally but will follow the developments keenly.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — November 18, 2008 @ 1:03 pm | Reply

  1547. Krishna,

    I really like the idea of the OPN T-Shirt. But, will you be able to cater to the diverse sizes and tastes?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 18, 2008 @ 1:39 pm | Reply

  1548. Purinderji,
    Thanks you very much for posting the list of OP hits in Binaka. I think they are correct to the small extent I know. Among those I did not know,There are some pleasantly surprising inclusions and many disappointing exclusions(I do not mean by you, but those whoever responsible for those selections)
    Yeh lo mai hari priya at third place is surprising and babuji dhire and hun Abhi not making to top hits of the year is disappointing. And Surma mera and Hong kong China mina making it is surprising but not satisfactory, because there are better songs in the same films and much much better songs from many other films not making it to the top.
    Even now Babuji dhire and Mera naam chin chin are most heard, most adapted , most remixed tunes of OP in my opnion.
    Chore lutere daku and mai mai quartoon, Thandi thandi hawa all great favorites of mine, making it is very satisfactory. When I first heard them i thought they deserve to go top(by top I mean making it to yearly hit parade).(Actually, I rated Thandi thandi hawa as the best song of the year.) But only now I came to know that they made it.
    Mangke saath at so low a place!!! Chal akela at 4 is a great satisfaction.
    As Krishna ji said Mere sanam not being there at all is surprising and a great disappointment. Similarly, Just one song from Yeh raat phir, hum sub chor, Mr. and Mrs. is not just. No tumhara chahnewala, Poocho na humen???
    With three hits from Ek musafir, It did not make to top 3 for best music Film fare award. Professor got the Award. Professor!!!Even Anpadh in 2nd place deserves more. I am not at all unappreciative of the great “awaz deke”. But Ek musafir, with OP at nearly his best, with so much variety, Asha and rafi singing their hearts out left out!! Actually, disgusted with that omission, I stopped following Hindi film songs after that. That was why I did not know many of OP’s later films till last few years.
    Oh! my God, OP ji in heaven! My heart weeps for the injustice done to you. But take heart from the fact there are so many of us who have not forgotten your great creations, which the Apsaras in heaven would prefer, whether they were popular or not and whether they got awards or not.
    My friends, pl. forgive me for this outpouring.

    Comment by curao — November 23, 2008 @ 9:24 am | Reply

  1549. Rao sahib- very interesting to read your feedback. You might call it ‘outporing’, but it was really nice as it came straight from the heart.

    You make a very interesting point about being surprised with the popularity of some songs. It is interesting that some songs viewed in retrospect appear to be much better than they apparently were when they were released. Either tastes have changed or some of us like songs for our association with them.

    As for Binaca Geet Mala I think that the 1956 Annual countdown was the time when OP Nayyar made the first big impact. So, here is the 1956 Annual countdown, ‘lifted’ by me from another blogsite from the net.

    #16.Aajaa sanam madhur chaandni mein hum (Chori Chori) Singers-Lata & Manna Dey,Lyrics-Hasrat Jaipuri,MD-Shankar-Jaikishan
    #15.Zindagi Khwaab hai (Jaagte Raho) Singer-Mukesh,Lyrics-Shailendra,MD-Salil Chowdhary
    #14.Rimjhim rimjhim barkha barse (Taangewali,1955) Singer-Lata,Lyrics-Prem Dhawan,MD-Salil Chowdhary
    #13.Garibon ka pasinaa bah rahaa hai (Naya Aadmi) Singer-Rafi,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-Madan Mohan
    #12.Dil dil se milaakar dekho (Mem Saahib) Singer-Asha,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-Madan Mohan
    #11.Mera naam Abdul Rahmaan (Bhai Bhai) Singers-Lata & Kishore Kumar,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-Madan Mohan
    #10.Piya piya piya mora jiya (Baap Re Baap,1955) Singers-Asha & Kishore Kumar,Lyrics-Jaan Nissar Akhtar,MD-O P Nayyar
    #9.Aankhon hi aankhon mein ishaara ho gaya (C I D) Singers-Rafi,Geeta Dutt,Lyrics-Jaan Nissar Akhtar,MD-O P Nayyar
    #8.Kaise aauun jamana ke teer (Devta) Singer-Lata,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-C Ramchandra
    #7.Halke halke chalo saanware (Taangewali,1955) Singer-Hemant Kumar,Lyrics-Prem Dhawan,MD-Salil Chowdhary
    # 6.Leke pahla pahla pyaar (C I D) Singers-Shamshad Begum & Rafi,Lyrics=Majrooh Sultanpuri,MD-O P Nayyar
    #5.Ai dil mujhe bata de (Bhai Bhai) Singer-Geeta Dutt,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-Madan Mohan
    #4.Nirbal se ladaai balwaan ki (Toofan Aur Diya) Singer-Manna Dey,Lyrics-Bharat Vyas,MD-Vasant Desai
    #3.Tu pyaar ka saagar hai (Seema,1955) Singer-Manna Dey,Lyrics-Shailendra,MD-Shankar-Jaikishan
    #2.Nain se nain naahin milaao (Jhanak Jhanak Paayal Baaje,1955) Singers-Lata & Hemant Kumar,Lyrics-Hasrat Jaipuri,MD-Vasant Desai
    # 1.Ai dil hai mushkil jeena yahaan (C I D)Singers-Rafi & Geeta Dutt,Lyrics-Majrooh Sultanpuri,MD-O P Nayyar

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — November 23, 2008 @ 12:47 pm | Reply

  1550. Am an old timer but an OP fan who cannot get enough from sites that allow listening to some songs that come to mind but are not on sites that I tried.”Do dilo ki daastaan” unreleased but had OPs touch in an EP in 1962.
    I am still to find Bol Pardesia from Mangu and songs from Bhagambag,Qaidi,Mr Lambu and a number of films circa 1955.Will much appreciate if someone could send me a list/guide me to a site or still better kindly offer to share these numbers through mail.Pramod Acharya

    Comment by pramod acharya — November 23, 2008 @ 5:36 pm | Reply

  1551. Hi Opiums!
    I’ve posted the best song of the movie Zid (1994) in Murty’s inbox on rediff.com. Recording quality may be lacking as I didn’t have the right equipment/gadget to capture the best audio quality.
    Enjoy

    Comment by Hemant — November 23, 2008 @ 10:50 pm | Reply

  1552. Hi Opiums!
    I’ve posted the best song of the movie Zid (1994) in Murty’s inbox on rediff.com. Recording quality may be lacking as I didn’t have the right equipment/gadget to capture the best audio quality.
    Enjoy

    Go to rediff.com
    Sign In: Murtyabcd
    Password: abcd123

    Comment by Hemant — November 23, 2008 @ 10:52 pm | Reply

  1553. Hi Hemant Ji,

    I am sure the rest of the gang of Opiums is very happy to hear from you after a long period of silence on you part. The quality of your recording is good. I enjoyed the song by the three females. The next step would be to get this song put on Youtube and make it available to all.

    Thanks again.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 24, 2008 @ 9:39 am | Reply

  1554. Dear Kaveetaa ji,

    I wish God Almighty shower his blessings for good health of your son.

    Let me attempt to REFRESH all OPIUM’s mood !

    Friends,

    You must have listened several songs of :-

    RAFI SAHEB with LATA ji
    RAFI SAHEB with ASHA ji
    RAFI SAHEB with GEETA ji
    RAFI SAHEB with SUMAN ji
    RAFI SAHEB with SURAIYA ji
    RAFI SAHEB with SHAMSHAD ji

    But there are few others also who can share pride to have given a HIT with RAFI SAHEB.

    Balkhati Sharmati Aaja >Usne Kaha Tha / RAFI & SABITA BANERJEE
    Dil Karne Laga Hai Pyar Tumhe >Nateeja / RAFI & HEMLATA
    Ek Pal Ruk Jana Sarkar >Dholak / RAFI & SULOCHNA KADAM
    Hoonth Hain Tere Do Lal Heere >Heera Moti /RAFI & DILRAJ KAUR
    Is Ishq Muhabbat Ki, Kuch Hain Ajeeb Rasmen >Zulm Ki Pukar /RAFI & CHANDRANI MUKHERJEE
    Jab Bhi Yeh Dil Udas Hota Hai, Jane Kaun Aas Paas Hota Hai >Seema / RAFI & SHARDA
    Jab Jab Apna Mel Hua To Dil Yeh Hi Pukara >Mahua / RAFI & SULAKSHNA PANDIT
    Jiske Liye Sab Ko Chora Usi Ne Mere Dil Ko Tora >Sajan Ki Saheli / RAFI & USHA KHANNA
    Kahe Bindiya Lagai, Maine Nindiya Gawayi >Sharda / RAFI & ANURADHA PAUDWAL
    Meri Hasratoon Ki Duniya, Tu Mile Kahin Jo Mujhko >Gaal Gulabi Nain Sharabi / RAFI & KRISHNA KALLE
    More Raja O Le Chal Nadiya Ke Paar >Nadiya Ke Paar / RAFI & LALITA DEOOLKAR
    Mujhko Apne Gale Laga Lo Aye Mere Hamrahi >Humrahi / RAFI & MUBARAK BEGUM
    Sara Mora Kajra Churaya Tune >Do Dil / RAFI & AARTI MUKHERJEE
    Tu Raat Khadi Thi Chat Pe, Ni Main Samjha Ke Chand Nikla >Himalay Ki God Mein / RAFI & USHA TIMOTY
    Yahan Badla Wafa Ka Bewafai Ke Siwa Kya Hai >Jugnu / RAFI & NOORJEHAN

    #The above singers might have sung some other numbers also with RAFI SAHEB. It seems that RAFI SAHAB was PARAS for them to achieve such memorable GOLDEN HITS.

    Comment by Anand Berry — November 24, 2008 @ 10:12 pm | Reply

  1555. #1555 few more to add…

    ansoo thi meri zindagi – RAFI, AMIRBAI KARNATKI – bikhre moti

    jhoothe zamaane bhar ke – RAFI, NIRMALA DEVI – musafirkhana

    kya hua tera vaada – RAFI, SUSHMA SHRESHTHA – hum kisi se kum nahin

    aye ji hoga kya aage janaab dekhna – RAFI, VANI JAYRAM – khoon ka badla khoon

    dil jhoom rahey masti me – RAFI, PUSHPA PAGDHARE – bin maa ke bachchey

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — November 25, 2008 @ 1:44 pm | Reply

  1556. Some more HITS with RAFI SAHEB

    Aaja Gori Nadiya Kinare Tujhe Tera Mitwa Pukare >Phir Janam Lenge Hum / RAFI & USHA MANGESHKAR
    Apna Samajh Ke Aankh Milane Ka Shukriya >Zindagi / RAFI & SUDHA MALHOTRA
    Khushiyon Ke Zamane Aaye >Farmaish / RAFI & MEENA MANGESHKAR
    Ratan Hain Do Anmol Hamare >Krishna Sudama / RAFI & MADHUBALA ZAVERI
    Namaste Jee Namaste Jee Humara Tumhara Jeevan Beete Hanste Hanste >Naach / RAFI & ZOHRABAI AMBALAWALI (Perhaps Shamshad was also joined)

    The list never seems to end……

    Comment by Anand Berry — November 25, 2008 @ 9:54 pm | Reply

  1557. #1551 Pramod Acharya ji,

    OPN’s BHAGAM BHAG 1952 (10) songs are ready for Free Downloads on :-

    Apun Ka Bollywood.net & also on Mp3 Hungama.com

    You get better sound quality of this movie songs on Mp3 Hungama.com > Indian Movies.

    Comment by Anand Berry — November 25, 2008 @ 10:22 pm | Reply

  1558. 1558: Anand Beri ji,Most grateful for your guidance.Pramod Acharya

    Comment by pramod acharya — November 27, 2008 @ 11:19 am | Reply

  1559. Hi my fellow Opiums,

    The Times of India is seeking folks to light a candle in honour of the bravehearts who have lost life at the hands of the terrorists in Mumbai. Please visit http://www.timesofindia and light a candle and show the families of the victims and the nation that we share in the pain of those that are directly hurt by this senseless acts of a few.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 29, 2008 @ 12:21 am | Reply

  1560. Dear Friends,
    Sorry for the absence. Anand thanks for enquiring. My son is okay now.
    All of you must be aware of the recent upheaval in Mumbai. The previous incidents left one flabbergasted and despondent and one thought we had seen it all. But the next time is even worse. What occurred now is truly devastating if not humiliating as an Indian. the world knows of our unpreparedness and lax security while the terrorists are perhaps mocking us at the ease with which they demolished their targets. Will we ever learn? We certainly dont need to send a Chandrayan to the moon if our own backyard is vulnerable to mayhem.
    Our hearts are full of admiration for those that laid down their lives and yet full of disgust at the thought that perhaps it was undeserved. If only they were properly attired, equal to the enemies they fought, they may have yet been around. The anger at witnessing our police force combat dreaded psychopaths with rifles and jackets cannot be aptly described.
    Can go on and on emoting..but..its been done now. What use then crying over innocent lives lost? Do read my latest post..click on header ‘ Sachiniti’.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — November 29, 2008 @ 9:09 am | Reply

  1561. After the recent attacks on BOMBAY, I am reminded of an OPN’s C.I.D. song sung by Rafi Saheb-

    “Aye Dil Hai Mushkil Jeena Yahan
    Zara Hat Ke, Zara Bach Ke,
    Yeh Hai Bombay Meri Jaan”

    Indeed Dirty Politicians with their nexus to terrorists have made lives of Mumbaikars and all countrymen very MUSHKIL to live by ignoring verdict of Supreme Court on terrorists like Afzal Guru just for their vote bank gains. AN EYE FOR AN EYE is the simple funda that U.S.A. followed after 9/11 attacks. Unless and until strict norms are not followed these terrorists won’t get a lesson.

    Comment by Anand Berry — November 30, 2008 @ 9:50 pm | Reply

  1562. there are thousands of film albums one can listen online on http://www.in.com , including many of OPN films…once curao ji was asking for MUQADDAR KI BAAT, which is also there…listen n enjoy…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — December 5, 2008 @ 5:43 am | Reply

  1563. #1563 please click ‘BOLLYWOOD CLASSIC’ in the box at right side for entire alphabetical list of albums…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — December 5, 2008 @ 7:23 am | Reply

  1564. Here’s a good G.S. Kohli song from the film Faulad.

    Comment by hemant — December 9, 2008 @ 3:26 am | Reply

  1565. Thank you shishirji for info. Though I registered for in.com long ago I never opened it. I assumed it is some new and shopping site. I heard the songs and found them to be good. Unfortunately, they could not be downloaded.
    Purinderji, #,
    A few observations on the binaka hit list,
    My (Aaja sanam) “Madhur chandini” just made it to the last place?!! I used to think that that song clinched the first place for Chori chori for filmafare award that year over CID.
    Also, Pl let me know, if a few other songs of chori Chori and CID made it to the next year’s binaka parade. I did not hear the 1956 hit parade , but I heard the 1957 one. At about the fourth place or so, Amin Sayani mentioned about Panch banu, Leke pehla pehla as fit for inclusion, but the number of times they appeared in Binaka weekly programs were divided between those two years, 1956 and 57.
    The other clarfication I request is about Naya admi in 13th place. The song sure desrves that place. Is that the same film with another great song “Laut gaya Sanka jamana hai khushi lehrathi” by Talat-Latha? With N.T.Ramarao and Anwar Hussain, Jamuna etc.? Its original film “santhosham” in Telugu, produced by AVM, with the same tunes was not a hit in Telugu but a silver jubilee hit in Hindi even with Telugu stars!!

    Comment by curao — December 10, 2008 @ 7:31 pm | Reply

  1566. Friends,

    Today is the Birthday of “Adakar-E-Azam” DILIP KUMAR Saheb.
    Let all the OPN fans of SACHINITI wish the thespian a very long, Happy & Prosperous life.

    DILIP Saheb ‘Aap Jeeyen Hazaaroon Saal aur Har Saal Mein Din Hon Pachhas Hazaar’

    Comment by Anand Berry — December 11, 2008 @ 8:36 pm | Reply

  1567. Rao sahib, I present below, the 1957 Binaca Geet Mala Annual countdown that had 34 songs played over 2 programmes of 1 hour each. Out of these 34 songs, S-J had 6 songs including 2 from Chori Chori. OP had a phenomenal year with 7 of his songs making it into the final list. I do not believe that these were OP’s best for that year, but 7 out of 34 is still something special.

    For those of you who are interested, the list of songs is as under :

    34. Jaago Mohan Pyaare (Jaagte Raho)Singer-Lata, Chorus, Lyrics- Shailendra, MD- Salil Chowdhary

    33. Reshmi salwar kurta jaali ka (Naya Daur) Singers-Asha , Shamshad Begum, Lyrics- Sahir, MD- O P Nayyar

    32. Din albele pyaar ka mausam (Begunaah) Singer- Lata,Manna Dey, Lyrics- Hasrat, MD- Shankar Jaikishan

    31. Chhun chhun karti aayi chhidiya (Ab Dilli door nahin)Singer-Rafi, Lyrics-Hasrat, MD- Datta Ram

    30. Jaane kya toone kahi (Pyasa) Singer-Geeta Dutt, Lyrics- Sahir, MD- S D Burman

    29.Ye mard bade dil sard bade (Miss Mary) Singer-Lata/Rafi,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan, MD-Hemant Kumar

    28. Badla zamana aaha badla zamana (Miss India) Singer-Rafi, Lyrics- Rajinder Krishan, MD- S D Burman

    27. O Mr Banjo ishaara to samjho (Ham Sab Chor Hain) Singers- Asha,Rafi, Lyrics-Majrooh, MD- O P Nayyar

    26.Kali ke roop me chali ho dhoop me kahan ( Nau Do Gyarah) Singer-Rafi, Asha, Lyrics-Majrooh, MD- S D Burman

    25.Ye raah bheegi bheegi ye mast fizaayen ( Chori Chori) Singers-Manna Dey, Lata, Lyrics- Shailendra, MD- Shankar Jaikishan

    24.Ae meri topi palat ke aa (Funtoosh,1956) Singer-Kishore Kumar, Lyrics-Saahir Ludhianvi,MD-S D Burman

    23.Hai hai hai ye nigaahen kar dein sharabi (Paying Guest) Singer-Kishore Kumar, Lyrics-Majrooh sultanpuri,MD-S D Burman

    22.Thandi thandi hawaa poochhe unka pataa (Johnny Walker)Singers-Asha & Geeta Dutt,Lyrics-Hasrat Jaipuri,MD- O P Nayyar

    21.Badi der bhai badi der bhai kab loge Khabar(Basant Bahar,1956) Singer-Rafi, Lyrics-Shailendra,MD-Shankar-Jaikishan

    20.Mister John yaa baba Khan ya lala roshandaan (Baarish) Singer-Asha,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-C Ramchandra

    19.Ude jab jab zulfen teri (Naya Daur) Singers-Rafi,Asha,Lyrics-Saahir Ludhianvi,MD-O P Nayyar

    18.Chhup gaya koi re door se pukaar ke (Champakali) Singer-Lata,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-Hemant Kumar
    17.Nakhrewali nakhrewali dekhne mein dekh lo (New Delhi,1956)Singer-Kishore Kumar,Lyrics-Shailendra,MD- Shankar-Jaikishan

    16.Main Bambai ka baboo (Naya Daur)Singer-Rafi,Lyrics-Saahir Ludhianvi,MD-O P Nayyar

    15.Maang ke saath tumhara (Naya Daur)Singers-Asha & Rafi,Lyrics-Saahir Ludhianvi,MD-O P Nayyar

    14.Eena meena deeka (Aasha)Singers-Kishore,Asha,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-C Ramchandra

    13.Nain mile chain kahaan (Basant Bahar,1956)Singers-Lata & Manna Dey,Lyrics-Shailendra,MD- Shankar-Jaikishan

    12.Aajaa zara mere dil ke sahare (Ek Jhalak)Singers-Geeta Dutt & Hemant Kumar,Lyrics-S.H.Bihari,MD-Hemant Kumar

    11.Munna bada pyaara (Musafir) Singer-Kishore Kumar,Lyrics-Shailendra,MD-Salil Chowdhary

    10.Chhup ho jaa chhup ho jaa (Bandi)Singer-Kishore Kumar,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-Hemant Kumar

    9.Maana janaab ne pukaara nahin (Paying Guest)Singer-Kishore Kumar,Lyrics-Majrooh Sultanpuri,MD-S D Burman

    8.Antam fantam chhod de babu (Ham Sab Chor Hain,1956)Singer-Asha,Lyrics-Majrooh Sultanpuri,MD-O P Nayyar

    7.O raat ke musafir (Miss Mary )Singers-Lata,Rafi,Lyrics-Rajinder Krishan,MD-Hemant Kumar

    6.Chhod do aanchal (Paying Guest)Singers-Asha,Kishore,Lyrics-Majrooh Sultanpuri,MD-S D Burman

    5.Aankhon mein kya jee (Nau Do Gyaarah)Singers-Asha & Kishore Kumar,Lyrics-Majrooh Sultanpuri,MD- S D Burman

    4.Pancchi banoon udti phiroon (Chori Chori,1956)Singer-Lata,Lyrics-Hasrat Jaipuri,MD-Shankar-Jaikishan

    3.Laal laal gaal jaan ke hain laagoo (Mr X) Singer-Rafi,Lyrics-Majrooh Sultanpuri,MD-N Dutta

    2.Sar jo tera chakaraaye (Pyaasa)Singer-Rafi,Lyrics-Saahir Ludhianvi,MD-S D Burman

    1.Zara saamne to aao chhaliye (Janam Janam Ke Phere)Singer-Rafi,Lata,Lyrics-Bharat Vyas,MD-S N Tripathi

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — December 13, 2008 @ 5:55 pm | Reply

  1568. I see that in this forum many OP songs are still being unearthed.I recorded many years back a few from a Doordarshan show these Runa Laila OP songs which are in good playable condition on one of my audio tapes.I donot know how to transfer these to a site where these can be shared by all.

    Damadum mast Kalander”
    “Wadiyan wadiyan”
    “Meri jaan main tujhpe fida”

    ” Äaja piya bahonmain”

    “Ghungroo toot gaye”
    “Surmayee sham ke andhere main”
    “Aaj chahe hoat seedo”

    Comment by pramod acharya — December 15, 2008 @ 4:30 pm | Reply

  1569. I just happened to come across this blog while browsing for OP Nayyar. His music is very original and he appears to have been a man of strong opinions and uncompromising of situations. I truly admire him for not towing the line even though it cost him a lot.

    And, who cares if the Bollywood stalwarts didn’t show up at his funeral. He seems to be alive in many people’s hearts and this blog entry is proof that he and his music is deeply loved even today. I have enjoyed listening to his songs for three decades and will do so for many more.

    It is truly heartbreaking to think that your own family can disown you. I am glad to know that in his last days, he had a loving foster family.

    Comment by GDutt — December 16, 2008 @ 8:46 am | Reply

  1570. Welcome on behalf of all Dutt ji.
    You put it very right in saying “uncompromising situations” and that “cost him a lot”. We all share your feelings that he lives forever among music lovers, especially among his fans.
    Acharya ji,
    Are all those songs of O.P.Nayyar? If they are in audio tapes, You must first digitize them to put them in computer. Then sharing them with all of us is easy. But, digitizing them is a bit time consuming and needs learning. Not only for sharing with others, It is better to preserve them also in computer, as the tapes are liable to fungus and scratches and loosing sharpness with time.
    If you are keen to do that and have time to do that, I can guide you, if you contact me at my email addr.

    Comment by curao — December 21, 2008 @ 11:20 am | Reply

  1571. Hi fellow Fans of O.P.

    Let us all welcome G Dutt ji to this forum.

    At present I am in India. On the other day, I visited C U Rao Ji at his home in Vijayawada. Another friend of ours, G N Murty joined us. Three of us had a great time listening to O.P. music. C U Rao Ji has put in lot of time and effort in collecting and storing many songs of O.P. on his computer. His collection is truly impressive. Apart from O.P., he has many other MDs’ compositions in his library.

    G N Murty Ji shared some interesting information and behind the scenes events in respect to O.P. Murty Ji showed us a DVD of an event in B’glore in which O.P. was felicitated and some songs of O.P. were rendered by the local artists in O.P.’s presence. It appears this DVD costs Rs. 250. Every fan of O.P. should buy a copy and show our appreciation to this B’glore fan club.

    O.P.’s will live forever in our hearts and minds.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 22, 2008 @ 8:07 am | Reply

  1572. Sorry for the grammetical mistake in the last sentence. It should have read O.P. will live forever in our hearts and minds.

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 24, 2008 @ 5:14 pm | Reply

  1573. Today December 24 is Mohd Rafi’s 84th birthday. Mohd rafi sang the most songs for OP Nayyar, including Asha. These songs are classical jems now. These include songs from Tumsa Nahee Dekha, Naya Daur, EK Musafir Ek Hasina, Kashmir Ki kali, Mere Sanam and many more. Each and every song by Rafi in these movies was a huge hit. I really miss the great combination of Rafi and OP Nayyar. ” Yuhn to Humne lakh gayak dekhen hain, tumsa nahhe dekha” How true this is for Rafi Sahib.

    Comment by Asif — December 25, 2008 @ 1:46 am | Reply

  1574. Re 1571,Trust me to lose yr email address with all the tecnology at hand!!I would be very happy to follow yr instructions to upload said songs for all to share.Let me say that if my memory serves me right the songs are OPs and even as I listen to these(still in good condition) my ear for OP music says I maybe right.So write to me at my e-mail address(pramodacharya153@hotmail.com) and I shall do the needful.Regards.Pramod Acharya

    Comment by pramod acharya — December 25, 2008 @ 7:39 pm | Reply

  1575. Asif Saheb,

    Thanks for bringing it to our attention that Dec. 24th was Mohd. Rafi’s birthday. No body would deny your comment that O.P. and Rafi combination yielded many melodious songs that are unique. These songs would be cherished by many generations for years to come. As a matter of fact, Rafi Saheb was a super gentleman who was very humble and earned lot of respect and love from every one that worked with him. No one can replace Rafi and O.P. – two totally unique and highly talented individuals.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 27, 2008 @ 8:11 pm | Reply

  1576. Agin, i seem to be the first to wish all OPiums a very prosperous, healthful, happy new year in 2009
    Pramodji, I will contact you at your email addr.
    Krishna ji and others,
    Nayyar and rafi wow, simply “tumsa nahin dekhaa…….”, ” Bahut shukriya badi meherbaani”.

    Comment by curao — January 1, 2009 @ 9:52 am | Reply

  1577. HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 1, 2009 @ 1:37 pm | Reply

  1578. Happy new year.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry , AP

    Comment by G N MURTY — January 1, 2009 @ 8:19 pm | Reply

    • To All OPIUMS..

      A Happy New Year.

      May 2009 be a year of wish fulfillment for you and your family.

      God Bless!

      Love
      Kaveetaa

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 1, 2009 @ 8:22 pm | Reply

  1579. Wishing all SACHINITIANS

    A VERY VERY HAPPY & PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR 2009.

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 1, 2009 @ 9:58 pm | Reply

  1580. Dear OPIUMS,

    Here Is a New Year Gift to all of you.

    You get around 220 songs of SANGEET-E-SHAHENSHAH OPN ji in MP3 format including songs of “The Loves Of Runa Laila” & “Neerajanam” and many many more composed by OPN at http://www.Guruji.com.

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 2, 2009 @ 10:12 pm | Reply

  1581. Dear OPIUMS

    For most people, birthdays seem significant only until you are alive. Upon death, the date of death then seems to overwhelm the date of birth. The death anniversaries eventually take over.

    January is a significant month for us, more than being just the start of the year. O P NAYYAR came into this world on January 16, 1926 and left it and us on January 28, 2007 and we are approaching his second death anniversary.

    While we remember him every single day for the spritual upliftment through his melodies that he has provided us, I find myself remembering him a lot since New Year day.

    We are planning to have an event in Boston on January 24 with local artistes. Nothing big, but we do want to get together to remember him.

    Sharing with you my wish-list to the artistes:

    DUETS THAT SWEEP ME AWAY

    OP’s great duets are many. In fact, they would run into hundreds. There may be many songs that I like more, even duets, but I list here 10 which sweep me away every time I listen to them. They all have that inimitable, magical signature beat that OP has left behind for us. Here are those that I would like to remember him on this month.

    1. Mein pyar ka rahi hoon – Asha/Rafi

    2. Humdum mere bhool na jana – Asha/Rafi

    3. Mange ke saath tumhara – Asha/Rafi

    4. Deewana hua badal – Asha/Rafi

    5. Mujhe mera pyar de de – Asha/Rafi

    6. Hath aya hai jab se tera – Asha/Mahendra K

    7. Khubsurat sathi itni baat – Asha/Kishore

    8. Honton pe hansi ankhon mein nasha – Asha/Rafi

    9. Dil to pehle hee se madhosh hai – Asha/Rafi

    10.Chehre se zara anchal jo aapne – Asha/Mukesh

    Comment by Siraj Khan — January 5, 2009 @ 12:24 am | Reply

  1582. Hi,

    I had 5 T-Shirts printed in Delhi with a picture of O.P. playing piano on the back side. This is a large picture taken from an album cover. O.P. looks handsome, may be he was in his forties at that time. On the front, the Shirt reads ” A Proud Fan of O.P. Nayyar, The Rhythm King”.

    If you would like to have this, please call me in Delhi 011-22721943 in the next two days. I will send it to you free. Positively call me before the end of Tuesday, Jan. 6th. Thanks.

    R

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 5, 2009 @ 12:21 pm | Reply

  1583. Krishna ji..that is such a nice gesture. Op ji will be smiling his inimitable, peaceful smile, much like in the picture on this post from up there I presume. I shall scan a pic of the T shirt and post it her on his birthday on the 16th.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 6, 2009 @ 10:20 am | Reply

  1584. #1583 / song no.2…dear mr. siraj, is it the same song ‘door bahut mat jaiye…nazneen bada rangeen hai waada tera…humdam mere khel na jaano, chaahat ke iqraar ko’ (phir wohi dil laaya hoon)? there is another ‘humdam mere maan bhi jao kehna mere pyaar ka’ (mere sanam) but it’s a rafi solo…AND if it is some other song as mentioned (humdam mere bhool na jaana), then can u please enlighten which film is this from? i wud love to hv this in my collection…thnx…

    curao saheb, can we download video songs from ‘you tube’? if yes, then what’s the procedure? pl guide as there r many rare OPN songs there which r not available in market…once downloaded, my son will take out the audio from these videos…OR if audio cud be taken out directly from you tube? thnx in advance for ur valuable guidance…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 6, 2009 @ 2:01 pm | Reply

  1585. #1586 Dear Sisir ji,

    Yes you can easily download videos from not only You Tube but any other video sites with the help of “Real Player Downloader”

    Later you can easily convert these videos to audio MP3 format with the help of “You Tube Downloader”

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 6, 2009 @ 10:00 pm | Reply

  1586. thnx anandji, i hv succeeded n downloaded a few songs from u-tube…thnx for ur guidance…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 7, 2009 @ 9:27 pm | Reply

  1587. #1587 just AMAZING ! anand ji, i’m really thankful to you sir…hv downloaded many rare OPN songs from youtube as per your guidance n of course with my son’s help…now i strongly feel, our generation is not that computer savvy as compared to the later ones…anyway, apart from youtube which other video sites r thr as u mentioned in ur post? pl guide…thnx…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 9, 2009 @ 7:10 pm | Reply

  1588. #1589 Dear Sisir ji,

    There are thousands of Old movies VIDEO SONGS that you can download from – http://www.Music World Of India.com

    Later all and any VIDEO can easily be within a few seconds converted to Window Media MP3 FORMAT with the help of “You Tube Downloader”

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 9, 2009 @ 8:50 pm | Reply

  1589. #1583 Dear Siraj ji,

    I can’t recall if there is any song ‘Humdum Mere Bhool Na Jana’ sung by Rafi & Asha composed by OPN for any film.I think you got confused with “Humdum Mere Khel Na Jano” of Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon.

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 10, 2009 @ 1:49 pm | Reply

  1590. Dear Opiums,

    Its OPN’s birthday today. May his soul be in heavenly peace and surrounded by divine music. For us earthlings, his music that he has left us as his legacy is divine enough.

    I will be scanning the snap of the T shirt later today. There is another one if somebody would want to have it. Please send me your address and I will courier it to you.

    Love and regards to all

    Kaveetaa

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 16, 2009 @ 8:11 am | Reply

  1591. Dear OPIUMS,

    Let us all today celebrate the birthday of our O.P.Nayyar ji.Please go-
    http://www.Youtube.com > Ronkini-SaReGaMaPa Roll Over Epi3-Results-Girija Sitara

    #1589 Dear Sisir ji,

    THANX to Ms Kaveeta Kaul ji who gave us such a wonderful platform to share.

    1) Some rare 13 songs from ‘The Loves Of Runa Laila’sung by Runa Laila under the composition of OPN ji.
    AND
    2) Much talked about 14 songs of ‘Neerajanam'(the only Telgu film with OPN music) sung by S.P.Balasubramanium, Ms Rama Rao & S.Janaki the AND some 200 songs of OPN are waiting for your download on-

    http://www.Guruji.com

    You have a golden chance to download 16 songs of OPN in INSTRUMENTAL.
    Please go at http://www.ansarimusic.net > Soft Instrument > A Tribute To O.P.Nayyar – 16 files.

    Aare Beraham Uperwale! Kash! Toone O.P.Nayyar saheb ki jagah mujhe bula liya hota! Qam se Qam MAUSIQUI to Zinda rehti is jahan mein.

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 16, 2009 @ 7:52 pm | Reply

    • Friends the snaps of the t shirts are up…on the post..

      Anand ji it is Opiums like you and all the others here who have made this post what it is.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 16, 2009 @ 10:08 pm | Reply

  1592. #1593 dear anandji, there are 10 songs in neerajanam (1992) n not 14, out of which 8 were dubbed in hindi for OPN’s hindi film mangni (1992)…details are as under…

    1.ghallu ghallu na…./ kahan se sanam dil me mere pyar jagaane aaye tum
    2.oohala ooyalalo…./ jub se tujhe dekha jaag uthe mera pyar (male n female solos – thus 2 songs)
    3.mamathe madhuram…/ hum kaise batayen, taqdeer ne humko aisa maara
    4.manasukh madhukalasham…/ kabhi na mitega mera pyar
    5.nee vadanam virise kamalam…/ dil de diya maine tere liye
    6.ninnu choodaka nenu oodalenu…/ mai to marke bhi teri rahoongi (female) n hum to marr ke bhi tere rahenge (male)…thus 2 songs
    7.premavelasindi…/ aatma marti na bigadti na to jalti hai

    (thus total 9 mangni songs)

    other neerajanam songs (not used in mangni) are –

    8.na premke shalvu, na darike shalvu…
    9.ee visaala prasantha…
    10.nene sakshyamu ee premyatra…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 16, 2009 @ 10:46 pm | Reply

  1593. #1595 7 out of 10 neerajanam songs were dubbed in hindi for mangni n not 8 as mentioned…wrong button pushed, my fault…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 16, 2009 @ 10:57 pm | Reply

  1594. #1595 Dear Shishir ji,

    Reg:- NEERAJANAM Songs

    3 songs Ghallu Ghallu, Ninu Chudaka, & Prema Velasindhi seems doubled.
    However 1 song ‘Nee Padanam’sung by S.P.Balasubramanium is missing in your list. Thus It seems that NEERAJANAM had a total of 11 songs.

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 17, 2009 @ 12:13 pm | Reply

  1595. HELLO EVERY ONE, IT IS NIGHT 2.30, P.T JUST WAS SCROLLING THROUGH INTERNATE, REMEMBERED SONG ” DEKHTI HU JIDHAR”. IRONICALLY I SOUND LIKE ASHA B. LOVE ETERNALLY O.P.’ SONGS? IT IS HEART. REAL LOVER OF LYRICS AND MUSIC, I BET CAN THRILL ROMANTIC, WITH HIS SONGS. IT IS LATE .BUT PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE IS ANY O.P. LOVER IN BAY AREA? SEND ME YOUR CONTACT PLEASE.

    Comment by NA ASHA — January 17, 2009 @ 3:52 pm | Reply

  1596. #1597 dear anandji, this song is NEE VADANAM n not PADANAM…pl see song no.5 in my list…this song was dubbed as ‘dil de diya maine tere liye…’the songs which r dubbed in 2 versions r –

    oohala ooyalalo…/ jub se tujhe dekha jaag uthe mera pyar (male n female solos – thus 2 songs)

    ninnu choodaka nenu oodalenu…/ mai to marke bhi teri rahoongi (female) n hum to marr ke bhi tere rahenge (male)…thus 2 songs

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 17, 2009 @ 7:29 pm | Reply

  1597. i make a suggestion. can we have op’s song recitals and evening of his songs ? in northern california is there is someone. Sirajbhai you are in Boston, so can you pl. tell me how to organise op’s evening with his songs?

    Comment by NA ASHA — January 18, 2009 @ 9:28 am | Reply

  1598. i make a suggestion. can we have op’s song recitals and evening of his songs ? in northern california is there is someone. Sirajbhai you are in Boston, so can you pl. tell me how to organise op’s evening with his songs?can we atrt with some in bay area?

    Comment by NA ASHA — January 18, 2009 @ 9:30 am | Reply

  1599. Post# 1600 and still going strong. Bravo, Kaveetaa ji.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 18, 2009 @ 12:21 pm | Reply

    • Purinder ji..#1600 was your comment so Bravo to you for this and all the other brilliant comments by you and all my other Opiums.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 18, 2009 @ 7:58 pm | Reply

  1600. After reading comments on Neerajanam and Mangni songs (written by Anand Berry ji and Shishir Krishna Sharma ji), I am very curious to hear the songs of Mangni. I have an audio tape of Neerajanam but in my recent trip to Hyderabad, the music stores folks told me that new tapes or CDs of Neerajanam are no longer available as the Company that holds the copy rights is either out of business or is not interested in marketing CDs or tapes of this movie. What a tragedy because I am told that many people are still looking to buy Neerajanam songs.

    If any one can help me find a CD (original or copy) of Neerajanam and Mangni, please let me know. Thanks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 19, 2009 @ 9:35 am | Reply

  1601. still i am waiting for someone from northern california.or th eoriginator can tell when there will be memory concert in even bombay?i will be there in april.thanks

    Comment by NA ASHA — January 20, 2009 @ 7:19 am | Reply

    • We were planning a commemorative musical nite in New Delhi this month. Naveen Anand a passionate Opium was in charge of operations which he handles skillfully as the Mubarak Begum event well exemplifies, while I had humbly offered to rope in star singers/actors etc. Unfortunately because of recession, sponsors are not forthcoming so we had to stall our intentions….temporarily one hopes.

      Rest assured that any event on OPN will be well publicised on Sachiniti.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 20, 2009 @ 10:10 am | Reply

  1602. #1604 Dear Krishna Baru ji,

    Please refer my post #1593.

    All the songs of “NEERAJANAM” (the only Telgu Film with OPN music) can be easily downloaded in MP3 format from –

    http://www.Guruji.com

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 20, 2009 @ 8:03 pm | Reply

  1603. #1604 krishna baru saheb, if i’m not wrong you had planned to visit my place in december…then what happened sir? i recently got mangni songs but they r in audio cassette…i’ll hv to digitize them then only i wud be able to mail them to you…i’v taken out audio from many many rare OP songs downloaded from u-tube, thnx to mr.anand berry who guided me…now i’m proud to have all ‘mujrim’ n all but one ‘jaali note’ songs…am in search of penaz masani’s ‘tu hi mera dil…’, ‘the killers’ n ‘chham chhama chham’ n a few others…am confident that ‘hum honge kaamyaab ek din……!’

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 20, 2009 @ 8:16 pm | Reply

  1604. Shishirji,
    I too request Mangini from you.
    i recently found an easy way to digitize songs. This works with Mozilla firefox. I did not verify if it also works with internet explorer.
    The first step is to download “freecorder” and install. It is a tool bar and attaches itself to the browser with record, pause, stop buttons and settings.
    The second step is connect your Cassette player to PC with a chord that has earphone jacks at both ends. Easily available in any electronic shop. one end goes into earphone socket of cassette player and the other into line-in or mic-in slot of you PC. Now you are ready to record.!!
    start playing the cassette, and clik on the record button in the tool bar. you can see a small recorder window showing if it is rcording or not recording. of course, you have to stop and name the song at the end of each song,
    The real advantage of this “freecorder” is it can record any sound you are able to hear thro your PC speakers, as it catches from the sound card itself.

    Comment by curao — January 21, 2009 @ 8:02 pm | Reply

  1605. for those who are interested:
    The “freecorder” mentioned above is useful in many other ways:
    It can download audio from any sites that have audio songs to hear but do not provide for downloading. you simply start playing it and press record button described above to download and record in your PC.
    similarly, if one wants only audio part of the videos in sites such as youtube, one has to simply play it on line(usually in flash player, doesnt matter which) and press the record button to download just the audio part.
    To sum it up it,it allows one to record any sound that comes thro your computer speakers

    Comment by curao — January 22, 2009 @ 9:25 am | Reply

  1606. #1608 Dear Shishir ji,

    Regarding ‘O.P.Nayyar’s Haunting Melodies in “TU HI DIL MERA TU HI MERI JAAN” – 8 Tracks sung by Penaz Masani’

    We have 2 options :-

    A) Either someone Requests Ms Penaz Masani to send a complimentery Album to http://www.in.com for on line listening for OPN fans of Sachiniti.

    Ms PENAZ MASANI
    562,Rustom Mansion
    Adenwala Road
    Matunga
    MUMBAI – 400019

    Tel (91) (22) 4310734
    Fax (91) (22) 4130578

    OR

    B) Someone staying in USA can easily download these 8 Ghazals and share with other OPIUMS from the undermentioned link

    http://www.altnet.com/album/1090660/tu_hi_mera_dil_tu_hi_meri_jaan/index.aspx

    The 8 Tracks are-

    1 Dekh Mohabbat Ka Dastoor
    Time: 5:35 Size: 8MB

    2 Raat Jab Khileke Muskurati Hai
    Time: 5:52 Size: 8MB

    3 Jaane Do
    Time: 4:37 Size: 6MB

    4 Ye Bhi Kya Shaam- E- Mulaqat Aayi
    Time: 5:50 Size: 8MB

    5 Dil Ke Shikari
    Time: 4:54 Size: 7MB

    6 Kisae Dekhen Kahan
    Time: 5:45 Size: 8MB

    7 Dilber Dil Bhi Ajeeb Hota Hai
    Time: 5:32 Size: 8MB

    8 Kaun Is Raah Se Guzarta Hai
    Time: 5:39 Size: 8MB

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 22, 2009 @ 6:17 pm | Reply

  1607. #1611

    Sorry, It is “TU HI MERA DIL TU HI MERI JAAN”

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 23, 2009 @ 8:02 am | Reply

  1608. #1611 anandji, thnx for sending the link…i tried a lot but the pages are available in US only…i do have a friend in US who can help me…HEMANTJI, listening?
    i tried to meet penaz as well, that too as a journalist but everytime i called up, she was not in mumbai…i even mailed to her on the mailing address mentioned in her website but it bounced back…bataiye aise me kya kaiya jaaye?

    #1609/1610 curao saheb, ur knowledge in computers is amazing…i’ll definitely try the way u suggested…i can’t talk of others but so far my collection of songs is concerned, i don’t hv any problem to share mangni or any other songs with music lovers…but the problem is lack of time (to digitize) n that of technical knowledge…still i promise, i’ll send these songs to ‘murtyabcd’ / password – abcd123 once they r digitized…thnx…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 23, 2009 @ 8:19 am | Reply

  1609. Shishirji,
    Thank you very much in advance for Mangni and your open offer.
    “I can’t speak of others, but as far as I am concerned”, I too am absolutely of the same nature as you. Pl. do not have any doubts on that. I shared and will share in future too without any reservations, as many may attest. Similarly, Many Sachnitians and others have supplied me many songs for which I am forever grateful to them.

    Comment by curao — January 25, 2009 @ 10:30 am | Reply

  1610. respected curao saheb, i was full if enthusiasm when joined this blog…ofcourse the reason was opening of a whole new world after i got 24 hrs net connection though i hvn’t becum that computer friendly till today…computer still remains a typewriter n music system for me n the reason is my profession (of writing / journalism) in which i have to devote too much time…i happily contributed to murtyabcd n sent CID-909 songs n wanted to continue…i cud even share ‘dil tere hawaale’ with u all which was never released, neither the film nor the soundtrack…but gradually i realised, this forum has turned into a ‘speakers’ platform…if i’m not wrong, mangni songs are available with a few ‘very active’ speaker friends for long…you all requested for the songs but what was the result? anyways, when i said in #1608 that i’m in search of ‘penaz masani’, ‘chham chhama chham’ n ‘killers’, no one came ahead though i know, people do hv these albums as many earlier posts suggest…but i’m thankful to mr.anand berry who sent the link for PM n also to hemantji who tried a lot to download the album (in US) though all his efforts went futile due to certain reasons…n as i mentioned ‘hum honge kaamyaab ek din’ in the same post, i have got penaz masani, runa laila n ashok khosla albums n all 9 chham chhama chham songs which wr released on disc (other 2 wr picturised but not released on disc)recently from some other sources…n am confident, i’ll get ‘killers’ very soon as by the grace of God, am sitting in a place n am into such a profession which make things comparatively easier for me…still i’m ready to share all my collection with those for whom ‘sharing’ is not a one sided affair…sorry if i hurt anybody but for how long can we act in a superficial manner? let’s see, now people contribute to murtyabcd or not….

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 26, 2009 @ 8:08 am | Reply

  1611. Shishirji,
    I am aware of all the aspects mentioned by you above, though I never said in so many words for fear of hurting others. You, I and a few others I know have “open house” policy. It is not possible to fathom the thinking of others. I too know that some people do have the songs we request. As far as i am concerned, You must have seen in murtyabcd and youtube that I did post songs, whenever someone showed interest. From my various messages here, you might have observed how I struggled to find a way of uploading videos to youtube, when I had trouble with the software. Anandji and Hemanthji contributed to my collection also, as I acknowledged in one post earlier.
    AS Im a retired person, I have enthusiasm for songs as well as for computer software. Though I am myself quite busy, my time is flexible. I do not claim to be a computer expert, But, I am elated when I find suitable tools for various operations and am always glad to share what I know with others. The tools I suggest are tested by me and found to be safe and useful.
    Sometimes, Iam frustrated at simple tasks. Like now, I could not download the “Zid” song from murtyabcd. I tried so many ways but failed. Did you post all CID 909 songs? I have 6 of them. i do not know how many songs are there in the film actually.
    About PM songs, I asked my son in USA to download from the link provided by Anand saab. As soon as my son sends them, I will upload them to murtyabcd.
    Did you observe the eagerness of others in Ansarimusic.netto get your collection? They are all urging you to put up your collection, without even promising you anything. That was what prompted me to write a message there for you. It was not any mean-minded-ness on my part.

    Comment by curao — January 26, 2009 @ 6:17 pm | Reply

  1612. #1616 curao saheb, i hv all regards for you n know well about your contribution in murtyabcd n youtube…even i’v benefited from ur contribution…if u remember i had sent an email to u a year back expressing my desire to share all my (digitizes)collection with u but i didn’t get any reply, the reason is better known to u…i had n still hv a guilt that i was not able to contribute my LP collection due to lack of knowledge n time, especially ‘muqaddar ki baat’ which u had asked for, n didn’t want to be called a ‘one way traveller’ that’s why i had expressed my said desire… still i’m open but now want to stick on ‘one to one’ relationship…hence i’m in no mood to contribute to murtyabcd because i repeat, ‘sharing’ is not a one sided affair…i can send u PM or AK or RL or mangni, but don’t want these to reach ‘one way travellers’…OR let us wait n watch if other commenters bring out their hidden treasure n share with all after reading these posts…if i’m not wrong, motive behind starting murtyabcd wud definitely be sharing OPN songs only…but it’s funny that many other things r found dumped there which reminds me of the peepal tree near my residence, the cemented platform around which is being used as dumping ground for all kinds of used pooja saamagri including broken fotos n idols of different gods…

    there r 6 songs in CID-909, all of which r there on murtyabcd…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 26, 2009 @ 8:22 pm | Reply

  1613. Shishir ji there are many of us who arent involved in this exchange. Could you specify which commenter your anger is against.It will simplify things and others like me and so many others who are not exchanging songs will not come under one sweep of Opiums.

    Thank you.

    Comment by Krishnan — January 27, 2009 @ 10:15 am | Reply

  1614. i think everything is clear in my post krishnan ji…but i can assure that u r NOT the one…i don’t even know that u hv mangni songs…n if u hv then i fail to understand why u didn’t share these with others…pl note that i never requested anybody here for mangni songs…this is what elderly curao saheb did but i felt it an insult to him when his request was ignored…i had a guilt that i was unable to gv him ‘muqaddar ki baat’ as the songs r in LP record…that’s why as sn as i got the link, i immediately sent to him…pl chk all the previous posts…
    i strongly feel, we shud not make the things public if v r so possessive about them…why to show off if we don’t hv guts to share with others…i did the same n made ‘dil tere hawaale’ public in the same manner BUT merely as a reply…

    CURAO SAHEB, please send me your email id once again, i’ll send u all my (digitized) collection…i had this, but when u didn’t gv any reply of my mail which i sent to u a yr back, i deleted it…my email id is ‘shishirkksharma@gmail.com’ …all other friends r welcome as well…thnx…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 27, 2009 @ 1:02 pm | Reply

  1615. Shishirji,
    I am aghast at the fact you mentioned. I did not respond to your mail??!!! I am really extremely sorry for that slip. It is extremely rare I dont respond in general for any mail. Particularly, from you. Usually, I wait for the other person to show lack of interest to correspond with me before I stop. Over and above that i missed a great opportunity of getting your collection. The loss is mine.That past event is all dark to me. there is absolutely no reason, known or unknown to me. But, since you are saying it, it must have happened somehow, without my cognizance.
    Any way, We know each other, at least, we are not one way travelers. and we also agree that sharing should not be one-way affair.
    Having said that, as Krishnan pointed out , we should not sweep all opiums with the same brush.

    Comment by curao — January 27, 2009 @ 1:25 pm | Reply

  1616. Shishir ji.please relax. You are angry but it is directed at the wrong people. I dont want to get into the right and wrong but will talk only of myself. I think you are mistaking me for Krishna Baru. I am Krishnan. 39 years old and have never even heard of Mangni or the songs.

    Comment by Krishnan — January 27, 2009 @ 2:57 pm | Reply

  1617. Shishir, and Krishnan Ji,

    I am truly lost and cannot understand who are you talking about. As far I am concerned, I have been sharing what I have.

    I have offered free T-Shirts. Those that responded to my note, I sent them the shirts by courier at my expense. Folks liked the shirt and the idea behind it.

    C U Rao and I have developed a strong line of friendship and communication. He has put in lot of time and effort in making DVDs for me. In return, I have bought a few DVDs for him. Over the last couple of years, we have become very good friends and frankly discuss many things.

    I can say the same thing with my friendship and communication with Murthy Ji.

    I personally believe in developing a strong rapport. As a matter of fact, I have suggested a get-together in Bombay or Delhi during my latest trip. My idea did not receive much enthusiasm. During my trip, I met Sri C U Rao and Murthy. Kaveetaa and Purinder took time to talk to me over the phone. I hope to meet them in my next trip. In my current trip, I could only visit Hyderabad, Vijayawada (home of C U Rao), Vishakpatnam, and Delhi. Our trip was very hectic as we had to do lot of shopping for my daughter’s upcoming wedding and one of my uncles was in the hospital which caused us lot of anxiety.

    I am in regular touch with Siraj Khan and Hemant.

    Shishir Ji, you did not write me to tell me where you live. I have shared my e-mail address in the past. I always welcome to hear from new friends.
    In addition to my daughter’s wedding, a new house construction and full time jobs (both my wife and I work) are keeping us on our feet. The global economy is in deep recession causing wide spread grief and anxiety to many of us. Recently my friends from Satyam who work in my city are on the verge of losing jobs. What all time I can spare, I have been working with them on alternatives. As a result, I cannot spare much time at this juncture.

    Also, I am not devoting much time to play on computers to retrieve music from different sources and store them on different media to share. When ever, I find time I am listening to O.P. songs on You Tube.

    Shishir Ji, if you wish to write me, please send me a note to krbaru@hotmail.com.

    I would like to end this mail with sincere thanks to Kavvetaa ji for providing a platform for us to get together and share and care. Also, Sirak Kan Ji has been organizing many projects. He deserves our sincere thanks and recognition.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 27, 2009 @ 6:07 pm | Reply

    • Ok friends.. Lets just all take a deep breath breath and close our eyes in peace for a second.

      Now, I really dont know what this is about. I have read and re read the comments. Apparently nothing seems out of line. if Shishir ji has been disturbed by something, which I think he has he has expressed his anguish. Obviously its just between him and another person. None of the commenters who have responded here are involved including Krishna Baru ji.

      Krishna baru ji i think what krishnan meant by clarifying between your name and his was not in the least to implicate you but to clear it with Shishir ji since he asked him to share songs. Krishnan has been in touch with me. He is the last person to say or do anything detrimental to this thread.

      Its easy to react spontaneously since emotions are high. In my humble opinion I would suggest to Shishir ji to directly connect with the person and sort it out amicably outside of Sachiniti through email since I see that its beginning to affect all.

      Krishna Baru ji you really dont have to prove and say anything. You are a respected and most cherished OPIUM and will always remain so. Please handle this with the maturity that is so apparent in your comments.

      Lets just put this all behind us and move on. i dont think any further discussion is needed on the matter. I am in touch with Shishir ji too and am sure he doesnt mean one bit to cause distress. he is most willing to put an end to this matter. In fact he had even offered to get his comments deleted.

      OP ji deserves loyalty and steadfastness. Its the least we can offer him.

      Regards to all.

      Once again a humble request to create positive energy and carry on.

      OP jis song is lilting in my thoughts
      “phir miloge kabhi is baat ka vaada kar lo

      Humse ik aur mulaqat ka vaada kar lo”……..

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 27, 2009 @ 7:56 pm | Reply

  1618. Krishna ji..as kaveetaa ji rightly explained to you i was only making clear with Shishir ji about your name and mine since I thought he is mistaking me because I never made any offer for any songs since I dont have any. i am only a fan of Ops music and much younger than all of you. if I have done anything wrong i am sorry. Kaveetaa ji I am sorry.I will never do and say anything to spoil the atmosphere of this sacred space which you have nutured with love and care.. None of us should.

    Comment by Krishnan — January 27, 2009 @ 8:18 pm | Reply

  1619. Krishna baru ji..I read your comment again. Must point out something. On 16th january on Op jis birthday itself kaveetaa ji had put the photographs of the T shirt you sent for all of us to see. They are there on the post. Did you see them? Then how can we misunderstand you? Peace to all.

    Comment by Krishnan — January 27, 2009 @ 8:35 pm | Reply

  1620. i’m sorry if i hurt anybody but this was the outburst of my long suppressed anger…i feel, true tribute to the great maestro wud be to spread his works but not to sit on the treasure like ‘naagraaj’…once hemantji simply informed us that he was in search of a particular OPN film album (pl see previous posts)…i had the ACD of that film so i sent a copy to him though we hardly had any interaction till that time…n this was not an obligation but my duty being a true OPN fan …i never expected anything in return but hemantji at his own sent me some very rare OPN songs, many of which i was searching for…his gesture really touched me n now we r such a good friends that often i ask him (with full rights) for any song i require…n he tries his his level best to fulfill my requirement…as i said earlier, he also tried to get ‘tu hi mera dil…’ thru the link provided by mr.anand berry but pages didn’t open in US too…

    n krishnan ji, YES, i mistook u as krishnan baru ji n i really feel sorry for that…this happened just because i was under impression that there is only one KRISHNAN i.e. mr.baru on this blog with whom i hv interacted a number of times …but my dear friend, i fail to understand what prompted you to suddenly jump into the picture when u hvn’t even heard of mangni? i think u didn’t read my posts properly…pl go thru them once again n then only u’ll come to know that they r aimed towards the person who has the said album in his possession, first he tries to show this to the whole world so that the world claps for him, but when it comes to sharing the same with others, all his enthusiasm n energy vanishes…this is indeed an insult to those who had asked him for the songs…n it’s really great to know that u r 39 yrs old…but curao ji must be double ur age if i’m not wrong n just look at his contribution to ‘murtyabcd’ n ‘youtube’, his knowledge of computers n his passion which fails even today’s coputer savvy generation…n see the innocence of this fatherly figure, who shares his collection with the same person who ignores his request for mangni songs…i was helpless bcoz i didn’t hv this album at that time so i quietly waited for the right time…

    n baru saheb, i definitely meant what i said…at that time u wr just planning to come to mumbai…had u said u’ll be here on such n such dates, i wud hv definitely given u my contact details n fixed a program to meet…but ur program itself wasn’t fixed n ultimately u didn’t come to mumbai as u inform now…so whenever u fix a program, pl do inform…i’ll send u my address n we will meet up at my place…

    n at last, let me tell you all, my anger shot up when i informed thru one of my latest posts that i’m searching for ‘tu hi mera dil…’, ‘chham chhama chham’ n ‘killers’. dear friends, wasn’t it enough? is it must that i should hv begged for these albums with folded hands? why didn’t the people who proudly call themselves OPIUMS n who hv these songs not come 4ward at their own? i don’t say, u send these songs to me…but u can share these with all thru murtyabcd…once u do, u see my contribution…in such circumstances am i wrong if i say this forum has merely turned into a ‘speaker’s platform’?

    curao ji, am still waiting for ur e-mail i.d. sir…

    shishirkksharmasharma@gmail.com

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 28, 2009 @ 7:59 am | Reply

    • Shishir ji, I would have expected that my previous comment might have given an indication strongly that this matter be put to an end and whatever your complaints against a particular member in all fairness ought to be settled on a personal basis outside Sachiniti.

      Fans of OPN who visit and read here do solely for the purpose of sharing news, views and love for OPN. Nowhere is it incumbent on anyone to share his songs as a ground rule. If it is done so out of personal choice then all the better. But I think you should exercise more restraint in your speech and show of anger.

      Lets give everyone the benefit of doubt. I have no idea who you are referring to. Who knows..the person in question may have been busy and not accessed the site for some time. Or in the worst case scenario may not want to share his collection. That is perfectly okay. It is a personal choice. As you had already made clear it would be a one to one exchange ..based on a give and take..so where is the conflict? You dont have to give him songs either, if that is how you want it.I dont see the need for aggravation.

      This post has reached the statistics it has out of selfless love for OPN and not of any single OPIUMs personal gratification. When it came to that I took action to set the tone and course right. You are an informed, thinking individual. Please do not allow your emotions to get the better of you. We all make mistakes, and should be patient and compassionate with others who make them. Expectations kill our innermost goodness. Let us try and love each other, beyond immediate needs or irrespective of conditions. At least that is what one would expect in a forum such as this where we have been having a beautiful inter play for close to three years now and nothing of this kind has happened before. Please do not vitiate the atmosphere. I am unhappy with your use of words in conclusion.

      Nobody expects anything out of you and all Opiums would be most pleased to share only thoughts with you. I guess you should reciprocate that sentiment. Any other give and take is a bonus. Let us be inclusive instead of exclusive. I hope better sense will prevail.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 28, 2009 @ 8:29 am | Reply

  1621. kaveetaji, i’m sorry to bother u all…i request u to please delete all my posts which u find offending…this was my fault to club murtyabcd with this platform…but i wud like to clear one thing, whatever i did, was not for myself…my best wishes r with u all n with OPN SACHINITI…all the best !

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 28, 2009 @ 10:29 am | Reply

    • Shishir Ji..I have not the faintest idea what murtyacd is since I have never visited there. How and why Sachiniti got coupled with it almost inextricably is the perplexing conundrum that led to all of this. Since you have rightly zeroed in on the issue things are now sorted.. all’s well that ends well. You are and will always remain an erstwhile member of Sachinitis forum on OPN. If certain members have fallen below your expectations and falsely led you on.. I apologise on their behalf.

      Friends, as Krishnan and Purinder ji have already pointed out, today is Sh OP Nayyars 2nd death anniversary. In a way this clamour for his songs which we have witnessed over the past few days is nothing but another form of tribute to his magical compositions. Perhaps he sits back on his heavenly throne amusedly looking down at the proceedings and one hopes feeling comforted in the knowledge that he is yet so admired and will always be.

      Creativity which is divinely inspired has a life of its own. Nothing and nobody can stifle or choke it….since eternity is its destiny. We are but a cog in the wheel that ensures this.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 28, 2009 @ 9:27 pm | Reply

  1622. Shishir ji i dont want to speak more since Kaveetaji has said what was required but since you have directly addressed me as to why I ‘jumped in’ then I think you have not read my comment. please read #1618. It will clear the reason especially since you had mentioned ‘ great opiums’ and accused all of us which kaveeta ji edited out and made ‘commenters’ so as not to hurt all our sentiments. My only reminder to you was that. Anyways no hard feelings from my side..I was the first to welcome you on this blog since I came in earlier and still do admire your comments.
    No more talk of this kind since today is 28th january O P nayyars death anniversery. Let us not spoil it with all this useless talk.You are welcome and will always be welcomed here. Opn is more important than all of our petty differences.

    thank you

    Comment by Krishnan — January 28, 2009 @ 5:47 pm | Reply

  1623. Dear OPIUMS, today is the second anniversary of the passing away of the maestro OP Nayyar , who is one of the main reasons for our participation on Sachiniti.

    Let’s all remember him for the right reasons and salute the genius of this fabulous composer.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 28, 2009 @ 5:50 pm | Reply

  1624. Dear all,

    I have been coming here mostly twice or thrice a week. Just writing in to say that let us remember O P Nayyar the Great today with love and dedication. He will remain in our hearts like a genius who but visits the earth once in a way. There are many great people who write here and I really enjoy reading all of you. This unique site is a real blessing for Op fans. Last but not the least thank you Kaveetaa ji. Keep it up! We are always with you.

    Blessings and love to all.
    Niloufer.

    Comment by Niloufer — January 28, 2009 @ 6:26 pm | Reply

    • Niloufer ..its been long. But glad to know you have been around..even if invisibly lurking.

      There are many silent readers on Sachiniti who perhaps enjoy the discussion on OPN. We ought to remember this at all times and try and keep our comments read worthy and inspired just like the legend this post is dedicated to. Sometimes things get disturbed..but thats okay. Nothing and nobody is perfect..

      Curao ji please dont disturb yourself anymore. Three years we have all read your comments and that is what I and I am sure other Opiums would like to remember. You are valued and trusted. Please keep us enthralled with your passion.

      With warm regards to all
      Kaveetaa

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 28, 2009 @ 9:34 pm | Reply

  1625. Oh my God!! to what extent this small thing has blown up friends!!
    I think kaveethaji’s moderating comments should end this “storm in Sachniti’s idealistic cup”. As she rightly said, Every Opium has his/her freedom of choosing to share or not to share and how to share. I stress on the 3rd para of #1627 by her, and only add that we should have some mutual tolerance and understanding.
    I feel it is my duty to apologetically explain my totally unintended role in prolonging this unpleasant episode, Kaveethaji,eventhough you desired to put a stop. I merely tried to moderate in a different way. I am searching my own heart if I am to blame. May be i am, but wholly unintended. I happen to know a little more on the origin of this, but that is wholly unrelated to Sachniti.
    Pl. read the last 2 lines of my post #1616, that proves the point.

    Shishirji,
    my email addr is: cumrao@yahoo.com.
    Any way, I will send mail to you right now, and publicly apologize here if I am the unintended cause of any embarrassment to you. And I thank you for your appreciation of my efforts. I hate to hurt any one here as we all got together in Sachniti to swim joyously in the ocean of the glorious musical compositions of OP. I will admit frankly I “felt” hurt a few times, but, I absorbed that, as I am sure that the other persons did not intend to hurt me. Moreover, Sachniti has given so many happy moments, knowledge and motivation, that the hurt “felt” by me was negligible.
    Krishna baruji,
    I thank you for your compliments and will strive to deserve them.

    Comment by curao — January 28, 2009 @ 7:24 pm | Reply

  1626. I think , after reading some old comments that Shishir ji is upset Siraj Khan and is talking of him when he said “i strongly feel, we shud not make the things public if v r so possessive about them…why to show off if we don’t hv guts to share with others”.. I dont see anybody else who could have one that. Please read #773.He describes the songs in detail like Shishir ji mentions. I am only saying this to clear things up so that other commnetrs may not feel involved. If Shishir ji says it is not Siraj Khan I am willing to eat my words. The other possibility is GN Murthy.

    Another piece of news. Shamshad Begum one of OPS favorites has been selected for the Padma Bhushan and the OP Nayyar award is being given to her today.
    She is donating her prize money to charity
    http://www.radioandmusic.com/content/editorial/news/padma-bhushan-o-p-nayyar-award-shamshad-begum

    Comment by Krishnan — January 29, 2009 @ 7:59 am | Reply

  1627. Krishnan Ji,

    Thanks for sharing the wonderful news on Shamsad Begum being awarded with Padma Bhushan and O P Nayyar awards. Indeed, her action of donating O.P. award money to charities is highly commendable.

    Though it has been two years since O.P. ji left us, he is still very much with us, in our hearts and minds.

    Siraj Khan saheb is working on a musical program dedicated to O.P. This program is scheduled to be held in Boston some time in March.

    As O.P.’s fans, let us cling together and move forward singing ” Saathi Haath Badhana”.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 29, 2009 @ 9:36 am | Reply

  1628. Two years now – OP saheb must be busy composing his lilting melodies in Heaven. Normally we wish the departed souls ‘Peace’. I wish him ‘Music’ ! I wish him to know that his music is alive in our hearts and will always be..

    I am very glad to hear of the OP Nayyar Award being given to Shamshad Begum by the Eklavya Foundation and compliment Rohan Pusalkar for the service he is rendering in honouring the great artistes of our times as also simultaneuosly focussing on his social causes.

    Regrettably as mentioned by Kaveetaji, we could not find a sponsor for organising a stage event in Delhi due to the slowdown. We decided to meet soon at a friends place to render a musical tribute to the great legend by singing his songs.I encourage all OPiums to do the same. Nothing will bring more succour to his soul.

    Comment by Naveen Anand — January 29, 2009 @ 10:58 am | Reply

    • Krishnan thanks for sharing that timely and wonderful piece of News on Shamshad Begum. Well deserved honor must say.

      Naveen.. well said. Op ji is possibly enchanting the divinely bodies with his music.
      I know well of your dedication, selfless endeavouring and diligently pursuing the cause of an OPN nite. No matter it couldnt take place this time..there is always another.

      Like Krishna Baru ji suggested.. ‘ saathi haath badhaana” a grand sentiment .

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 29, 2009 @ 11:32 am | Reply

  1629. Naveenji and Krishnanji,
    you do not know how much I am elated at the news on my Favourite Shamshad. Oh!!, how many unforgettable solos and duets with particularly OP, Naushad and CR she gave!! The other day, I happened to come across a remix of the famous Kabhi aar kabhi paar, Which was just a pale imitation of her lilting piece. That fresh OP, First appearance of Kumkum, Guru’s deft direction, the dynamism and camera angles are inimitable. That is only just one example of Shamshad’s brilliance. How can we ever forget the the songs of Patanga, CID, Naya andaz, Dulari, just to name a few. Her’s was a mirthful arresting voice, unique and quite different from others of her era.
    The great OP continued to give her opportunities even after others left her. It was only fitting that her last song was Kismet’s Kazra mohobbatwala(am I right?). And that ever fresh, effervescent “Thodasa dil lagakke dekh” of Musafirkhana.
    As a tribute to OP, I want to recall one great song of his which is not lauded enough. Raat bharka hai mehmaan andhera- of soneki chidya. Rafi really excelled in that song , particularly the beginning. For some reason I can’t explain, After the soul stirring mukhda, it could be as likely to be followed by “dil ek mandir hain” as Raat bharka hai mehmaan andhera. (Of course , I know the meaning only partially). i am talking merely of the tune and style.

    Comment by curao — January 29, 2009 @ 7:48 pm | Reply

  1630. Shishir Ji,

    How are you doing? I am truly impressed at your analysis of Mangni and Neerajanam songs though, I don’t think you speak or understand Telugu. You are very knowledgble and you are always willing to share what you know and what you have. I am sorry if some is not reciprocating your friendly gestures and cooperation.

    Please send me a note so that we may initiate direct correspondence and communicate on a personal level. Naturally, it would take some time to develop a good sense of understanding and achieve some degree of comfort.
    My e-mail is krbaru@hotmail.com

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 30, 2009 @ 8:41 am | Reply

  1631. Kaveetaji
    Thanks for all the nice things you said.
    OPNs compositions even when he was in this world were so ‘heavenly’ I really wonder what they would be like while he is in Heaven ! ‘Seventh Heavenly’ ?
    Last few days I have been playing his “Nazneen bada rangeen hai wada tera, o haseen hai kidhar ka irada tera” – pls listen to it once more. It is guaranteed to make you get up and dance to its rhythm.

    Comment by Naveen Anand — January 30, 2009 @ 6:46 pm | Reply

  1632. Dear Shri Krishnan,

    Please refer to your post 1635. It can not be G N Murty because in my post 740 I have clarified that I do not have MANGNI Songs. I have mistaken it with songs of Jaane Meheboob.

    Curaoji, Thank you so much for sharing OPji’s rare songs. Great songs.

    Krishna baru ji, thank you so much for the OPN T Shirt.

    Shishirji, thank you so much for Mukaddar ki baat songs. I liked all the songs very much.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — January 31, 2009 @ 10:52 am | Reply

  1633. HELLO FRIENDS, I HAVE THIS SONG ON SCREEN SUNG BY EITHERE LATE MS. PARWEEN BABI OR HELEN. SONG IS ‘ MAN DOLE YA DOLE MERA TAAN, MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY, BIN PAISE KA PYAAR NA HO, KHALI JEB KOI YAAR NA HO’. WILL YOU PLEASE E MAIL ME THE NAME OF THE MOVIE? IT WILL PUT TO REST MY HAUNTING HEART TO EASE. AS I AM LOOKING FOR THIS SONG IN YOU TUBE AND EVERYWHERE. PLEASE E MAIL At pratiksha2002@hotmail.com. will be very greatful. thank you.

    Comment by NA ASHA — January 31, 2009 @ 11:39 am | Reply

  1634. Dear Shri G N Murthy ji,

    Thank you for clarifying. Your name came up as a second thought. So now it is very clear that Shishir ji meant Siraj Khan. I am very sorry that such a thing has happened.If the goal is to show love for Op then sharing songs is the least we can do.But like Kaveeta ji said we can not force anybody to share and show largeness of heart.
    Shishir ji you should have confronted the person directly. It is sad that your sensitive nature made you first get angry and then not even name the person.But I dont want to rake up anything. This is only in response to Murthy Sir.

    Comment by Krishnan — January 31, 2009 @ 6:37 pm | Reply

  1635. how come no talks? jago friends. say something.do not be dry. life with op’s music is beautiful.

    Comment by NA ASHA — February 8, 2009 @ 10:17 am | Reply

  1636. Hello Ashaji,
    For this not to dry out, there should be dialogues, not monologues. Some one posts something and often it goes un-responded. One gets discouraged with that.
    I would like to see the responses for this comment given by an anchor at an obituary concert soon after his death.
    1. “Rafi has sung for so many MDs. But never was he so unfettered and relaxed as when he sung for OPN and especially picturizing on johny walker”
    2. “Nayyar expressed a guilty feeling towards Geetha in many cadid interviews. Did Nayyar do enough for Geetha, but for whom he would not have been there at all? Many people think that Geetha’s high-spirited voice would not have suited Nayyar’s style.”

    My personal opinion on the above two.:
    The first is absolutely true.
    On the second, I totally disagree. First, it was wrong on his part to abandon Geetha, Whatever may be Asha’s pokings. Secondly, That high-spirited voice would have absolutely suited his style, as he tried to make Asha sing like Geetha(recall the great exhillerating and electrifying songs of Mangu, Howrah bridge and a few others). And, thirdly, Geetha can sing high-spiritedly as well as soulfully and mellifluously as exemplified by “ai dil hai deewane of Baaz”, “Ja ja ja bewafa” , “Jhuka jhuka hai” with Mukhesh in Miss coca cola, Meera bhajans for others and many songs she sang for SDB and Anil biswas.

    I will be delighted with comments on the above for and against.

    Comment by curao — February 8, 2009 @ 11:41 am | Reply

  1637. Hi guys,
    I heard a rare Asha/Rafi OP tune on my way back home from work in my wife’s car. I was totally absorbed with Dekh kasamse kehte hai tumse haaa, Isharo isharo yeh dil lene walo, Mujhe mera pyar de de. Then came this tune that I hadn’t heard for a million years. I played it over and over and memorized the tune by the time I reached home. This typical Nayyar signature tune accompanied by violin, mandolin, base, light drums, and other percussion, I believe was from Mr & Mrs 55.

    Since I was not sure if it was from 55 or some other flim, I googled the song. I typed “Zameen se hume aasmaan par bithake gira to na doge. Agar hum yeh poochhe ke dil mein basake bhula to na doge.” And to my surprise the song lyrics came up and indicated that it was a Madan Mohan tune from Adalat. Now I know Adalat had other OP signature tune by Asha “Ja ja re ja re.” that MM copied. But I didn’t know about this one. What confused me was that why did I always think that this was an OP tune. Was there a similar style tune that Nayyar composed earlier?

    Comment by Hemant — February 11, 2009 @ 5:50 am | Reply

  1638. Krishna ji,
    Thanks for the Nayyar Sahab T-shirt you sent me. I wore it once and am looking forward to wear it at musical events. The inimitable maestro on piano with a smile calls for “Aap ke hasin rukh pe aaj naya noor hai.” Sing with me “meeeera dil machal gayaaaa tu mera kya kusur hai.” This tune is my “All Time Favorite”

    Comment by Hemant — February 11, 2009 @ 6:03 am | Reply

  1639. Hemant Ji,

    I am happy to hear that you have liked the shirt. My experience showed me that this type of shirts can be printed in India for a fraction of what it costs in U.S. Though I could gift this shirt to only a limited number of OPIUMS, this idea has generated lot of excitement.

    I paid only Rs. 400 per shirt. This included the price of a plain shirt and the printing costs. I could have got the cost down to Rs. 300 or so if I had ordered a large quantity (Economies of Scale). I could only wait for four hours at the store and the result was that only 8 printed shirts could be made.

    I will be delighted if any fan of O.P. can look into the feasibility of production of this type of shirt in India in large quantities and make them available to other OPIUMS.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — February 11, 2009 @ 10:27 am | Reply

  1640. Hemant ji – your post # 1647 brought a sense of deja vu. Have a look at the postings[# 790 to # 796, including # 794 by you] made more than year ago.

    I believe that when the phenomenon called OP Nayyar stormed in on the music scene ,this happening shook up many music directors and induced them to veer from their own sedate styles. A case in point is Madan Mohan, a truly wonderful music director, but cast in the traditional mould. I guess he and some of his kind might, have been pressurized by their producers to come up with OPesque kind of music – which felt like a breath of fresh air.

    Any comments/views from other Opiums?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — February 11, 2009 @ 4:35 pm | Reply

  1641. THANKS MR. CURAO.LOOKS LIKE HEARTS HAVE STARTED BEATING AGAIN.BUT STILL ONE OF MY QUERI FOR THE SONG : MAN DOLE YA DOLE MERA TAAN, MONEY MONEIN PAISE KA PYAR NA HO KHALI JEB KOI YAAR NA HO: CAN U FIND OUT WHAT MOVIE WAS THAT? IT IS I THINK AMITABH ABACHAN AND PARVEEN BABI MOVIE. PLEWASE. AS I ALSO LIKE TO SING AND FEEL LIKE NA ASHA VOICE, AND MANY PEOPKLE LIKE THE MEANING IN THISS WORLD. I DO NO KNOW FULL SONG THAT IS WHY. MONEY MONEY MONEY, BIN PAISE KA PYAAR.THANK YOU AGAIN. NEXT COMMENT I WILL HAVE MY EXPERIENCE TELLING.

    Comment by NA ASHA — February 12, 2009 @ 1:01 pm | Reply

  1642. THANKS MR. CURAO.LOOKS LIKE HEARTS HAVE STARTED BEATING AGAIN.BUT STILL ONE OF MY QUERI FOR THE SONG REMAINS: MAN DOLE YA DOLE MERA TAAN, MONEY MONEIN PAISE KA PYAR NA HO KHALI JEB KOI YAAR NA HO: CAN U FIND OUT WHAT MOVIE WAS THAT? IT IS I THINK AMITABH ABACHAN AND PARVEEN BABI MOVIE. PLEASE. AS I ALSO LIKE TO SING AND FEEL LIKE “NA ASHA” VOICE, AND MANY PEOPKLE LIKE THE MEANING IN THISS WORLD. I DO NOT KNOW FULL SONG THAT IS WHY.THANK YOU AGAIN. NEXT COMMENT I WILL HAVE MY EXPERIENCE TELLING.

    Comment by NA ASHA — February 12, 2009 @ 1:12 pm | Reply

  1643. Mr Murthy ,I am Prakash Mool Bharti calling from Bangalore. Please communicate
    With regatds

    Comment by Prakash Mool Bharti — February 13, 2009 @ 7:04 pm | Reply

  1644. Mr. Prakash Mool Bharti,

    Welcome to Schiniti. Recently Murthy ji showed me a DVD on felicitation of O.P. ji by his fans in Bangalore. It appears Bangalore has a good group of O.P. fans.

    After seeing this DVD, I developed a desire to add it to my collection, As I do not live in India, I requested Murthy ji to buy another original DVD for me. Murhty ji and I have developed a good amount rapport and friendship and communicate regularly over the phone.

    In fact, I just spoke to Murthy ji and mentioned to him that he has a letter from you waiting for him on Sachiniti.

    Thanks to Kaveetaa ji, Sachiniti has been flourishing as an excellent platform for O.P. fans to communicate and share the wonderful creations of this musical legend.

    Hope you and other O.P. fans from Bangalore can stop in at Sachiniti once in a while and contribute to this blog. As your group was closely associated with O.P., you may have many interesting tidbits to share.

    With warm regards.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — February 15, 2009 @ 10:15 pm | Reply

    • Dear Krishna Baru

      Thank You for mentioning my name. I will buy the original DVD and send to you.
      with regards
      9845123335

      Comment by Krishna Baru — March 6, 2009 @ 8:19 pm | Reply

  1645. Thank You Krisha Baruji.

    Prakash ji, I will call you within a day or two.

    regards,

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — February 16, 2009 @ 11:45 pm | Reply

  1646. meri awaaz suno, meri pukaar suno, ai o.p.ji ke diwano, hum bhi to khade hai rahome, pl help me to find movie;s name for song’ man dole yaa dole mera man, money money money money, bin paise ka pyaar n HO KHALI JEB KOI YAAR NA HO’?

    Comment by NA ASHA — February 17, 2009 @ 11:56 am | Reply

  1647. NA Asha ji,

    For the next few days, I will contact some young folks and see if any one can help us find the name of the movie you are looking for.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — February 18, 2009 @ 9:26 am | Reply

    • Friends Ravi Panesar from London has sent me this mail. Please advise on how he can be helped.

      Quote:
      “Hi there.

      We are singer/songwriters from London. As a side project we have recently recorded english versions of some famous hindi songs and OP Nayyar’s ‘Pukartha Chala hoo main’ is one of them. The lyrics have all been completely re-written but the music has stayed the same considering it was so amazing in the first place!

      You wouldn’t happen to know who owns the copyright for OP Nayyar songs do you? so that we can inform them of what we are doing -to save from any problems, down the line if we ever start making money from our recordings. You can hear what we have done with the song at myspace.com/ivyyork and the song is called ‘Call Of Spring’.

      Thanks for your time

      Kind Regards

      Ravi (London)

      I will also try and link his song which he has sent, in the post.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — February 24, 2009 @ 9:47 am | Reply

  1648. Dear Opiums and Kaveetaa ji,

    Just have to report that we in Delhi, had a wonderful OP Nayyar nite on 28th Feb evening when we met at a friend’s place and celebrated the memory of OPN through his music.

    This event was earlier planned to be held on a large scale, simliar to the ‘Hamari Yaad Ayegi’ show , last April. But, inspite of heroic efforts of friends such as Naveen Anand, adequate resources that were needed for a public show, just could not be raised. Consequently, the event was re-cast in the form of a private ‘baithak’. While professional accompanists were hired for the evening, many of the 30 invitee guests came prepared to sing OP compositions. And boy, did they sing.. till well past mid-night . Had it not been for the fact that our host [ Rajiv Burman] and Naveen had to participate in Golf tournament on 1st March morning, the show would have not stopped, when it did.

    In terms of quality of music, this event turned out to be an exceptional one and frankly exceeded all our expectations. Firstly, many of the singers were absolutely wonderful. Actually, this is not really surprising as many of them had sung with tremendous flair and gusto at HYA function, last year.The surprise of the evening were the accompanists. These 3 musicians armed only with dholak, a gadget that I will call “electronic drums” and the organ, re-created remarkably faithfully, the sounds and strains of OP’s inimitable music .People sang with passion and feeling and some danced impromptu. It was particularly heartening to see Shikha Biswas [ daughter of the illustrious MD, Anil Biswas] dance and later sing a lesser known song of Asha from the film “Taxi Driver”[ not the old Dev Anand] called ‘Baalam Harjai’.

    All in all a memorable evening to celebrate the music of the one and only OP Nayyar.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — March 2, 2009 @ 5:48 pm | Reply

  1649. Dear Krishna Baru
    Thanks for your mail. I will send a original DVD. Please let me know your mail adress
    With regards
    9845123335

    Comment by Krishna Baru — March 6, 2009 @ 8:26 pm | Reply

  1650. shri BARUJI, THE SONG WAS PICTURE OF AMITABHA BACHHCN AND PARWEEN BABI OR ZEENAT AMAAN. WILL HELP. THANKS.

    Comment by NA ASHA — March 7, 2009 @ 12:31 pm | Reply

  1651. This article is specially for Mr. Siraj Khan (USA based music buff) and OPN fans. Mr. Siraj, I am not hiding myself but during these days I have gone in search of living legend singer Salochna Kadam. I hope you can recollect that I was the first to inform you regarding misreable life of Ms. Mubarak Begum. With your kind efforts and good contact she got exposure and did various concerts in Delhi, Pune and Mumbai. At present she can live with dignity. For your information Ms Salochna Kadam (Chauhan) is also leading the same life but a little better. I am hereby reproducing the summary of the interaction I had with her during her recent visit to Delhi.

    Old is Gold/Unforgetable Living Legend Singer Salochna Kadam (Chauhan)

    On 13th March 2009 yesterday female playback singer Ms. Salochna Kadam (Chauhan) is celebrating her 76th birthday. I met her in Delhi on 1st March 2009 along with her son Mr. Vijay Chauhan who is associated with Tabla master Zakir Hussain and playing Sarangi. Well Salochna was looking depressed as she recently lost her husband and elder son. During discussions with her she told me that in late forties she was doing a play ‘Laila Majnu’ and had to sing few lines. The makeup man of the play liked her voice and took her to music director Mr. Shambabu Pathak (SP). SP polished her voice and gave her first break throught in film ‘Krishan Sudama’ directed by Mr. C.R. Bajaj. Her first song in that film was ‘Mai to so rahe thi’. Then she sang in films like ‘Lal Dupatta’, ‘Refugee’, ‘Dukhiyari’, and ‘Jeevan Tara’, etc. However, the major breakthrough came in film ‘Dholak’ when music director Shamsunder invited her to sing ‘Chori Chori Aag si dil mai’ picturised on heroine Meena Shorie. The song was ok in one take and there was no looking back. The other songs of the film also become popular, i.e. Chalak raha hai pyar, and Magar hai hasina-e-bekhabar (with Rafi), and Mausam aaya hai rangeen (with Satish Batra and Shamsunder). Some of the other well known songs of Ms Salochna Kadam are – Kisi majboor ka jalta hua, Ulfat ise kahte hai (both from film Kale Badal), Khel re khilona (With Rafi) from Dasavtar, Hum Tumse Juda (Bade Bhaiya), Akhiyan mila ke ankhiyon ki (Mukhra), Woh aaye hai dil ko (Malika Saloni), Duniya mai garibo ko (Dukhiyari), Phir lot kae Aaja Balm (Dushmani), Lot Aaiye piya (Basera). In this way she has sung more than 150 songs. In 1952 Salochna Kadam got married and became Salochna Chauhan. She is still activily involved in singing Marathi Songs and there is not much change in her voice.

    For the information of the fans of Salochna Kadam, Radio Ceylon (Now Sri Lanka Broadcasting Corporation is organising special programme by paying tribute to living legend Salochna Kadam on 13th March, 2009 between 7 am to 8.30 am (morning). And those who want to wish her should dail her mobile no. 9820396166 (Mumbai). This numer is given with the concent of Salochna Kadam (Chauhan).

    Suresh Bhatia (Delhi) (email: asianenterprise135@yahoo.com)
    Music buff

    Comment by Suresh Bhatia — March 9, 2009 @ 1:37 pm | Reply

  1652. Dear Ophiums,

    On the eve of HOLI , I wish to share a SMS

    Why did the Sardar watch Rang de Basanti?
    Why did the Sardar watch Rang de Basanti??

    He thought it was a movie on Holi.

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 10, 2009 @ 8:38 pm | Reply

  1653. today i made cd on kiosk at rydham house, but sad to say shri o.p’s collection is miserable.can any one tell where to get all his collection? or any one has cd or dvd to offer with whatever remuneration for those unforgettable treasure of opsaab? or if i offer the list and someone can make cd ,ofcourse ,i will pay for the help.thanks you.

    Comment by NA ASHA — March 14, 2009 @ 1:07 am | Reply

  1654. Dear Opiums,

    Recently while on my trip to Punjab, travelling on G.T.Road from Phagwara to Jalandhar, I happen to go for a lunch at famous Vegetarian Punjabi Dhaba “HAVELI” managed by Heritage Group. (Just 2 km from “Lovely Professional University” of famous Lovely Sweets)

    While eating the Delicious food,I was shocked for a while when I got to listen the songs being played there in soft volume. They reminded me of childhood days when they made me crazy for Mohd.Rafi Saheb and of course the Mallika of Golden Voice Shamshad Begum.

    I still cherish those famous Punjabi songs syng by them –

    Ambiyan De Bootiyaan Noo / Shamshad Begum
    Batti Baal Ke Banere Utte / Shamshad Begum
    Chitte Dand Hasno Naiyun Rainde / Rafi
    Rab Na Kare Je Chala Jayen Tu Vichad Ke / Rafi & Shamshad

    Wah Wah Wah, Excellent food with EXCELLENT songs of Rafi & Shamshad.
    This was truly ‘Sone Pe Suhaga’. SWAAD AA GAYA

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 14, 2009 @ 7:55 pm | Reply

  1655. #1630

    Dear Curao ji,

    I think the last song of Shamshad Begum was in Heer Ranjha (1970) starring Raaj Kumar, Priya Rajvansh, Pran, etc etc. directed & produced by Chetan Anand with Music by Madan Mohan.

    “Naache Ang Ve, Chalke Rang Ve” (beautiful song with beautiful music)

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 14, 2009 @ 9:08 pm | Reply

  1656. #1654

    Dear NA ASHA ji,

    Please help yourself to get OPN treasures from :-

    http://www.apunkabollywood.net
    http://www.guruji.com
    http://www.in.com
    http://www.smashits.com
    http://www.youtube.com

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 14, 2009 @ 9:47 pm | Reply

  1657. First apologies to all for the rather late response.

    Purinder ji @1649.. How wonderful!! I can just imagine and almost hear the melodious strains of OP jis music. Which were the songs that filled that evening with divine enchantment. It would be nice if a recording could be sent. Do ask Naveen if he can do the needful. I know you can be relied on always to be as good as your word. On behalf of all OPN fans ..Thanks.

    Anand ji..aapka jawab nahin:)

    Are the songs you mention on youtube? I know what it must have felt like hearing them in a most unexpected place.Makki di roti, sarson da saag, kathel da achaar, lassi te naal punjabi gaane. Hor ki chaida ey:)

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — March 17, 2009 @ 4:55 pm | Reply

  1658. #1658

    Dear Kaveetaa ji,

    I had downloaded these songs from some other sites 2 years ago as these rare songs of Punjabi Movie “BHANGRA” starring Sundar & Nishi were then not available on You Tube. But you are very lucky to have now. Please go ahead and enjoy them with Royal Punjabi Food.

    Ambiyan De Bootiyaan Noo / Shamshad

    Batti Baal Ke Banere Utte / Shamshad

    Chitte Dand Hasno Naiyon Rainde / Rafi

    Rab Na Kare Je Chala Jayen Tu Vichad Ke / Rafi & Shamshad

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 17, 2009 @ 8:19 pm | Reply

  1659. Dear Kaveetaa ji, Purinder, #1649, # 1658
    The OPN evening at Rajeevs place was indeed unforgettable, and its very special charm lay not only in the exceptional music, but also the fact that some people who never sang before felt compelled to shed their inhibitions to sing OP favourites – and did a neat job of it.
    The only regret I have is that we did not record the evening. I never thought it would turn out to be as good as it did. Sorry, we will have to wait for a full blown show in better times.
    Naveen

    Comment by Naveen Anand — March 18, 2009 @ 4:48 pm | Reply

  1660. Anand ji you tube is such a boon. Its amazing really. With a click one can summon up past memories and songs one feared lost forever.

    @1660 . Naveen ji..never mind.I guess we will wait for better times.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — March 19, 2009 @ 12:17 pm | Reply

  1661. Dear Opiums,

    It seems OSCAR is an award for Slumdogs, by Slumdogs.

    People like OPN ji and Rafi Saheb are immortals. The don’t need any Oscar, Bharat Ratana as they are still prayed by music lovers all over the world. They rule and shall rule for centuries to come..

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 20, 2009 @ 8:27 pm | Reply

  1662. Hi Kaveeta ji,

    I am looking for an O P NAyyar song “Yoon muskura ke saamne aaya ” from Qaidi (1957) since a long time. Do you have it available in your collection or if you can direct me to that?

    Comment by Richa — March 26, 2009 @ 12:13 pm | Reply

  1663. Richaji,
    I will be glad to supply that. pl send me your request to my email addr.

    The other day I was hearing the very acclaimed “Vande mataram” of A.R.Rahman. What a far cry from the two great Vande mataram songs composed by Hemant kumar in Anand math and Jagrithi!! Such is the effect of publicity and hype.

    Comment by curao — March 26, 2009 @ 7:20 pm | Reply

  1664. Dear Opiums,

    This is to inform all of you that a year ago we had an opportunity to hear and download songs of TALAT MAHMOOD saheb at-
    http://www.talatmahmood.net

    But since last few months his unknown Greedy Son Khalid Mahmood has stepped in and blocked the site for personal monetary gains.

    This NIKAMMA son tries very hard to compare & influence viewers for free download of TALAT ji’s songs in his rotten voice. It reminds me “Kahan Raja Bhoj aur Kahan Ganguwa Telli”

    Well, Talat lovers can get free download of Talat songs from :-

    http://www.allindiansite.com
    http://www.ansarimusic.net
    http://www.apnaymp3.com
    http://www.apunkabollywood.net
    http://www.bollyextreme.com
    http://www.cooltoad.com
    http://www.desimusicstore.co.nr
    http://www.djmusiq.com
    http://www.epakimusic.net
    http://www.fmw11.com
    http://www.fm420
    http://www.funmaza.com
    http://www.ghazal.110mb.com
    http://www.Guruji.com
    http://www.in.com
    http://www.indiamp3.com
    http://www.indianmelody.com
    http://www.indianscreen.com
    http://www.mp3hungama.com
    http://www.mp3songshome.com
    http://www.musicmahal.com
    http://www.Pz10.com
    http://www.SmasHits.com

    I hope you all enjoy.

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 1, 2009 @ 11:30 pm | Reply

  1665. Bar Bar Din Yeh Aaye , Bar Bar Dil Yeh Gaaye ,
    Tum Jiyo Hazaaron Saal , Yeh Meri Hai Aarzoo !

    Happy Birthday To You , Happy Birthday To You
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY to KAVEETAA ji

    on behalf of all Opiums, Rafians & Sachinitians

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 4, 2009 @ 8:36 pm | Reply

    • Thank you Anand ji!! Sincerely.

      A question.. How did you get to know it was my birthday yesterday?

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 5, 2009 @ 3:44 pm | Reply

  1666. Belated Happy Birthday Kaveetaaji!!! Since the date is not mentioned on Sachiniti, there wasnt a way to know.And yes I repeat the question to Anand ji.. how did he know? 🙂

    Hope you had a great day and wishing you a wonderful year ahead!!

    Regards
    Jatin

    Comment by Jatin Lall — April 6, 2009 @ 10:00 am | Reply

  1667. 48 hours belated ‘ Happy Birthday’Kaveetaa ji!!! Its wishes of peace. prosperity happiness and goodies for you

    Comment by krishnan — April 6, 2009 @ 12:07 pm | Reply

  1668. Friends..Shakti Samantha the well known Producer/ Director has expired. His success was legendary and Op Ji’s musical compositions enhanced many of his films. Who can forget the songs of Sawan Ki Ghata?

    # aaj koi pyar se dil ki baatein keh gaya

    # zulfon ko hatale chehre se thoda sa ujaala hone de

    # haule haule saajna dheere dheere balma

    May his soul rest in peace. An innings well played and his memories will live forever through his work.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 13, 2009 @ 2:06 pm | Reply

  1669. Talking of Shakti Samantha /OP Nayyar partnership, can not forget “Howrah Bridge” and “Kashmir ki Kali”. ‘Howrah Bridge’ is remembered for Madhubala as well as for its incredible music. Each song was really good.

    As for “Kashmir ki Kali”, this film was unique because the movie was apparently developed around the songs, which were written and recorded at the start of the venture. Shakti Samanth’s son was recently on TV,stating that OPN in fact created 14 songs for “Kashmir ki Kali” of which 9 were used in KKK and the balance 5, in Sawan ki Ghata.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — April 14, 2009 @ 12:20 pm | Reply

    • Oh thats news Purinder ji. SKG songs were originally composed for Kashmir Ki Kali! And they were so apt in the film as well. But of course, Mumtaz and Sharmila tagore were at their peak and looked beautiful. Although Sharmila in kashmir ki Kali and Saawan Ki Ghta was poles apart..appearance wise. She had matured etc by then.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 14, 2009 @ 3:14 pm | Reply

  1670. And here’s something else on KKK.

    I was talking to Ms Shikha Biswas [ daughter of the music maestro Anil Biswas ji] at the OPN Nite on 28th Feb 2009 and learnt from her that she had in fact auditioned for the lead role in KKK. The fact that Shakti Samantha chose Sharmila Tagore is, as they say, now history.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — April 14, 2009 @ 4:05 pm | Reply

    • Oh really. Please do convey my best wishes to Shikha ji. I knew her late brother Utpal da well. He lived close to my house in Pali Hill. I met him often on my walk at Carters. It came as a shock to know of his untimely demise. Do ask her to visit Sachiniti if she finds the time and is inclined. One would love to hear from her of her legendary father.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 14, 2009 @ 6:07 pm | Reply

  1671. Shakti Samantas line up of flms is most impressive with mammmoth hits and great songs in all of them. What a time that was!

    * Bahu (1955)
    * Inspector (1956)
    * Hill Station (1957)
    * Sheroo (1957)
    * Howrah Bridge (1958)
    * Detective (1958)
    * Insaan Jaag Utha (1959)
    * Jaali Note (1960)
    * Singapore (1960)
    * Naughty Boy (1962)
    * China Town (1962)
    * Ek Raaz (1963)
    * Kashmir Ki Kali (1964)
    * Saawan ki Ghata (1966)
    * An Evening in Paris (1967)
    * Aradhana (1969)
    * Kati Patang (1970)
    * Pagla Kahin Ka (1970)
    * Jane Anjane (1971)
    * Amar Prem (1971)
    * Anuraag (1972)
    * Charitraheen (1974)
    * Ajnabee (1974)
    * Amanush (1975)
    * Mehbooba (1976)
    * Anurodh (1977)
    * Anand Ashram (1977)
    * The Great Gambler (1979)
    * Khwab (1980)
    * Barsaat ki Ek Raat (1981)
    * Alag Alag (1985)

    Comment by Jatin Lall — April 14, 2009 @ 6:20 pm | Reply

  1672. Thanks for the details Jatin. Impressive to say the least.

    Which brings me to another detail.

    Op Nayyar Not Forgotten is 3 years old today ( A BIG thanks to Purinder ji for bringing it to my notice) What a journey its been. Fulfilling and enlightening. I am sure many Opiums feel the same.

    A request to all those silent readers who have dropped in day after day, year after year, please leave your footprints in the comments section as well not just the stats:)

    This post is about honoring our legends and the smallest contribution we can make is spare a few words in their glory, which will remain forever on the internet and therefore for posterity ..or then face the tragic consequence of their memories, contributions, talent having died a silent death..unsung.

    Thank you all..

    Warm regards
    Kaveetaa

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 16, 2009 @ 4:42 pm | Reply

  1673. Kaveetaa ji- this is a remarkable mile-stone for any blog. Congratulations and felicitations. To nurture this interactive platform about OP Nayyar sahib is compliment not only to the maestro and his music , but also to you.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — April 16, 2009 @ 6:19 pm | Reply

    • You are too kind Purinderji. However I do sincerely feel that this post has an energy of its own which for that matter is true of any endeavour.But sincere thanks all the same.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 17, 2009 @ 9:13 am | Reply

  1674. CONGRATS Kaveetaa ji. Indeed a great achievement..if I am right not heard of on blogs. OPN hamesha hamare dil mein zinda rahein. Thanks to Sachniti..lets go on to the next phase now 🙂

    Comment by Krishnan — April 16, 2009 @ 9:09 pm | Reply

  1675. Warm felicitations Kaveetaa ji. Some things in life are destined to be long lived. I know two. OP’s music and Sachnitis post on OP 🙂

    Plenty more to come as is the best yet to happen.

    Regards
    Jatin Lall

    Comment by Jatin Lall — April 16, 2009 @ 9:33 pm | Reply

  1676. Dear Friends,

    Please refer to comment #8 of Shri Rahim Chundrigar.

    I am quoting his mail to me. I was very uoset to learn that he is unwell. Please do pray for his long life and wellness. Thank You.

    “Kaveeta beti,
    namaste,
    sada sukhi/khushi raho,
    thnxs for the note/reminder,
    now a days my health doesnt allow me,and almost am under int/care,
    i wish to talk to all my net buddies.but..pray for me.
    my old memories take me to the days of k.l.saigal shahib and pankaj malik/kanan devi/jyotika roy/k.c. day/khursheed/master madan and what more.i hv met some of them in real life and hv pleasure to be with talaat shaib when he came to karachi for recording of pakistani film.hv long association with naushad shaib,had lunch to gwether when he visited aramco(saudia) in 1984
    ,and so on.
    will cont yu all once in good shape.
    hv a blessing day,keep smiling.
    life is too short,
    love you all.
    khooshi raho
    uncle rahim”

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 17, 2009 @ 9:19 am | Reply

  1677. O P Nayyarji
    He was unique in life and death. I am one of an ardent fans of Nayyar Saheb. Now only souls like u and other should keep him alive in this materilaistic world by memories

    May God Keep His Soul Smiling

    Sunder
    Secunderabad

    Comment by sunder — April 17, 2009 @ 4:30 pm | Reply

  1678. Dear Opiums,

    I was on summer holidays trip to SHIMLA for a fortnight.
    Just imagine the popularity of Old heritage songs.
    I was enjoying my breakfast, Onion Utthapam at famous BALJEE’s just opposite GAITEY Theatre on Mall Road.

    There I got to listen ‘Aaya Tumpe Dil Aaya’ sung by Asha for Do Ustad,
    ‘Dil Mein Chupa Ke Pyar Ka Tufan Le Chale ‘ sung by Rafi for Aan.

    Something more on Late Shakti Samanta…

    Initialy during the days of making ‘Howrah Bridge’ he was assisted by Promod Chakravarty who later started his own productions.

    Shaktida used Shammi Kapoor while Pramodda favoured Joy Mukherjee. If one made ‘Kashmir Ki Kali”An Evening in Paris’etc with Shammi the other made ‘Ziddi’& ‘Love in Tokyo’ with Joy. But after few years Shaktida opted for Rajesh Khanna and Pramodda choice was Dharmendra. Shakti’s favourite was Sharmila and Pramod’s choice was Hema Malini. It used to be tuff competetion between both Bengalis.

    However Pramodda once used Rajesh Khanna in his Movie ‘Shatru’, but Shaktida never used Dharmendra !

    Shaktida was instrumental for bringing back Uttam Kumar (who left hindi movies after his ‘Choti Si Mulaqat’ flopped ) again in hindi movies Amanush, Anand Ashram,etc.

    Intrestingly Rajesh Khanna was top choice for Shammi Kapoor and also for Joy Mukherjee.

    While Shammi Kapoor directed Rajesh Khanna in Bundalbaaz (1976)
    Joy Mukherjee also directed Rajesh Khanna in Chhaila Babu (1977)

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 19, 2009 @ 1:15 pm | Reply

  1679. Hi friends

    More on Shakti Samanta and OP. I guess, Shakti Samanta’s son (Ref #1670) should have also mentioned some other facts about the KKK and SKG songs, which seem to have slipped through the cracks.

    Of the 9 songs mentioned, selected for Kashmir Ki Kali, Asha’s Balma Khuli Hawa Mein though recorded beautifully, was not included in the film itself. Despite being one of Asha’s own fav songs (beautifully sung too) it basically got “sacrificed”, for various reasons.

    Yes, some songs originally recorded for KKK, got rolled over to Sawan Ki Ghata, though not all. 8 songs in all were recorded and one of OP’s own all-time fav Honton Pe Hansee Ankhon Mein Nasha was again, not included in the film itself. Although an Asha/rafi duet, Asha really excelled in it, even by her own high standards. Becuase it is so diffciult to sing, most stage singers do not even attempt to sing it (as is Balma Khuli Hawa Mein).

    There was some sort of a fall out between OP and SS. It is interesting to note that in Shakti Samanta’s impressive list of films, the last ten or so had very little to offer in terms of music quality. One wonders why he continued to patronise RDB when his music consistently continued to be on the threshold of mediocrity, at least in the SS films.

    Comment by Siraj Khan — April 19, 2009 @ 8:00 pm | Reply

  1680. #1679

    While Pramod Chakravarty once in a while cast Rajesh Kahnna in ‘SHATRU’
    and also cast Shammi Kapoor in ‘TUMSA NAHIN DEKHA’ but Shakti Samanta never cast Dharmendra nor Joy Mukherji in any of his films.

    Well friends, please enjoy an all time Punjabi Bhangra hit of OPN + Shakti Samanta combination :-

    Hai Re Hai Yeh Mere Hath Mein Tera Hath from Kashmir Ki Kali

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 19, 2009 @ 8:33 pm | Reply

  1681. where are the songs for download ?
    I need the songs from OPN’s Mangu.

    Comment by Velgean — April 20, 2009 @ 8:49 pm | Reply

  1682. And talking of Sawan ki Ghata, I understand that the movie might have a special significance for Kaveetaa ji. Would she kindly ‘stand up’ and tell us a bit more about this ?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — April 21, 2009 @ 12:59 pm | Reply

  1683. Anand ji excellent study of choices of two stalwarts. Wow!! Had never looked at it this way but hard to disagree. Of the two I prefer the films of Shakti Samant. They had a good deal of story/concept and bordered on the best of commercial cinema. The songs in his films deserve a special mention. I am not sure exactly what was his input to do with selection.I.I havent read much of it anywhere . But he was doing something right, obviously.Here we have to accept the fact that talent of MDs was a lot more visible those days. They all took pride in their work and therefore belted out terrific numbers movie after movie.

    Sirajj your comment “One wonders why he continued to patronise RDB when his music consistently continued to be on the threshold of mediocrity, at least in the SS films.”.. really astounded me.
    We all have accepted time and again that OPN was a genius but frankly, definitely NOT to the exclusion of any other! To say that RDB was mediocre is downright unfair. He was a genius in his own right..undisputed. The tones and rhythms he introduced were unique.I disagree totally with your comment on RDB. And specifically in ALL of SS films..the songs were simply terrific. In our love for one I foind it arbitrary that we have to resort to running down another.. and both departed souls. It reeks of mean mindedness. Sorry!

    Comment by Jatin Lall — April 22, 2009 @ 6:36 pm | Reply

  1684. Anand ji terrific comment..I ditto Jatin jis comment. I guess there were ‘camps’ even then 🙂 Favorites are a natural phenomenon or like they say in filmi parlance ‘tuning sahi hai’. Promod da had a great one with Dharmendra and Shakti da was moe experimental Uttam Kumar was great in Amanush.

    Purinder ji.. aapke kya kehne:) Seems like you have really read this post in great detail..hahaha. What is there to ‘stand up for’..really? It was a minor event. But yes getting to know Shakti Samanta was the best thing that happened.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 23, 2009 @ 12:20 pm | Reply

  1685. I am able to visit Sachniti after a long time, because of various reasons. the site did not open im my PC for many days.

    Firstly, I wanted to congratulate Kaveethaji for successfully completing 3 years. It has been a wonderful forum we could all express our appreciative opinions on the genius of OP, his various songs. Many of us were able to enrich our knowledge of the finer aspects, various ragas he used, the singers he molded and the instruments he used.

    I do not exactly know the RDB songs for SS films and their relative merits. By the time RDB came to the top OP faded away. I know more of his actual contemporary composers like SJ, Naushad, SDB etc. Just as we are fans of OPN, There were large following for them also. It is unfair to say definitely that they were inferior to OP, just because we like OP more than others. I agree with Jatin lall ji there. There were a large no. of songs of other MDs, which, even we OP fans have to agree were simply great. OP’s songs some how appealed to us more than others in general, the reasons for which are not easy to explain. Such was the case with other MDs also, for their fans.
    An example of how likings inexplicably differ, is the case of OPN songs themselves. Many of my age group among OP’s fans, liked his early films, say upto Tumsa nahin dekha (with the exception of a few like ek musafir…) than his latter. Still, we liked his later songs also, because we were already addicted to his stile.

    Comment by curao — April 26, 2009 @ 11:51 am | Reply

  1686. #1684 Dear Jatin ji,
    You rightly said Shaktida deeply concentrated on story & music while Chakkida (Pramod Chakravarty) used stunts & skills with good music.His films had a diffrent fan following.

    #1685 Dear Kaveetaa ji,
    Obviously there were exclusive hit teams even those days..

    Shaktida with Rajesh Khanna in – Aradhna,KatiPatang,Anurag,AmarPrem,Ajnabi,Mehbooba,Anurodh and finaly Alag Alag.

    Chakkida with Dharmendra in –
    Naya Zamana,Jugnu,Barood,Dream Girl,Azaad and finaly Jagir.

    Intrestingly Chakkida gave a break to Akki (Akshay Kumar- son in law of Rajesh Khanna) in Deedar,but never casted Dharmendra’s son Sunny or Bobby !

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 26, 2009 @ 4:52 pm | Reply

  1687. #1682, Velgean
    Well, to my knowledge, some Mangu songs are not available for downloading any where. Thanks to some of our friends in Sachiniti here, I could collect 5 of the 6 composed by OPN. Mail me what songs you want and I can send them to you. I like them so much that I would like all OPIUMS to appreciate them.
    The very name Mangu evokes nostalgic thrill in me. It was actually in Mangu that OPN’s fast paced rhythmic and provocative stile took shape, to which old timers like us got attracted instantly. By the time Aarpaar was released, the 2 Mangu songs, Dol mere man pyarse and Mam more gaa were already shaking our hearts, heard from loud speakers in cinema theaters and restaurants. None of us ever saw the film, never released in our provincial town. We came to know of O.P.Nayyar’s name only from looking at the gramophone records. It was after seeing Aarpaar,his 2nd musically successful film, with OPN’s full repertoire that we got hooked to him.
    Oh!! How many sweet memories of those days of our early youth, how we craved and looked forward to the release of films like Mr. and Mrs., Baapre baap, Musafirkhana, Hum sub chor hain, Choomantar, Bhagam bhag, Shrimati 420, Qaidi, CID etc.!! Never got disappointed with them.

    Comment by curao — April 29, 2009 @ 7:10 pm | Reply

  1688. Dear Opiums,

    Feroz Khan has passed away. He tried to be Clint Eastwood of hindi cinema (see ‘Khotey Sikkay’and some other movies).

    Whenever teamed with Sunil Dutt, he was always left behind and overshadowed by Dutt Saheb in movies like ‘Pyasi Sham’ ‘Geeta Mera Naam’ ‘Nagin’ ‘Darinda’ etc etc.

    He was fortunate to get some good songs of OPN in ‘CID 909’ like

    Dhadka To Hoga Dil Zaroor
    Jane Tamanna Kya Kar Dala
    Tera Nikhra Nikhra Chehra

    Well here is a good song of Feroz Khan + Rafi saheb combination.

    Hum Tum Se Juda Hoke, Mar Jayenge Ro Ro Ke..

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 30, 2009 @ 6:23 am | Reply

    • Feroz Khan had a unique style almost unmatched over the years. There hasnt been one like him before his rea and even today with so mnay gifted actors and talent, none can actually be Feroz Khan. He had the perfect combination of a vulnerable face with a macho personality when he wanted to be so. Elvis Presley had much the same charm.

      Thanks for the reminder of the films and the songs Anand ji.

      Another one of Fk which i had added long back to the vodpod was ‘ Jaag dil e deewaana rut aayee vasle yaar ki’// something happens to me every time I listen to it. Its painfully, longingly romantic. And FK looked extremely dashing.

      He had a charmed life and was lucky to have lived life on his own terms.May the Almighty grant him everlasting peace.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — May 4, 2009 @ 7:19 pm | Reply

  1689. #1686 Curaoji.. so good to hear from you after a gap. Hope ypur health is okay and all else is fine. I wonder why you werent able to access the blog. Tried clearing your cache and cookies from the tools>clear private data option? It helps especially since this page has many comments. Maybe I should try and putting them on different pages..but come to think of it that may not help much since the older comments come last. Ahh well we have to pay the price for being the largest collection of his fans and perhaps the largest number of comments on a site :)(on a lighter note)

    I agree with your contention in toto. Talent to my mind is incomparable. It is unfair to judge geniuses since there are really no parameters or barometers. What touches ones heart is born from the sublime.. is a sign of the divine and He is present in all.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — May 4, 2009 @ 7:28 pm | Reply

  1690. Dear Opiums,

    Few days ago I saw a programme on Prithvi Raj Kapoor (father of Raj,Shammi & Shashi popularly known as PAPA ji). I was reminded of his great performanances in Punjabi Movies Nanak Naam Jahaz Hai,Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar, & hindi movies Mughal-e-azam, Ghazal,Rustom Sohrab,Janwar, Sikander-e-azam ,Kal Aaj Aur Kal,Awara,and many many other movies. I also miss his famous documentary with children ‘Khud Jiyo Auron Ko Bhi Jeene Do’

    Friends, see how nice performanance this PUNJABI PUTTAR gave in a tamil film..

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 8, 2009 @ 10:58 pm | Reply

  1691. Hi Friends,

    Just now I came across your web site. It is indeed a great site. I am also an ardent fan of OP Sahab. I am looking for a few songs composed by him. Do you have following songs:
    1. Aji Pehli Mulakat Mein Nahin Pyar Jataya Karte – Film Do Dilon Ki Dastan
    2. Milti Hai Agar Nazron Se Nazar – Film Do Dilon Ki Dastan

    Can anyone of you e-mail at my e-mail address

    Comment by Shammi Sukh — May 12, 2009 @ 8:45 pm | Reply

  1692. Hi Friends

    My e-mail address is : shammisukh@gmail.com

    Comment by Shammi Sukh — May 12, 2009 @ 8:48 pm | Reply

  1693. Dear Shammi Sukh,

    Please get your ‘Do Dilon Ki Dastan’ songs from:-

    http://www.guruji.com/music?hl=en&q=Do+Dilon+Ki+Dastan+%281966%29+&sb=1

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 12, 2009 @ 9:17 pm | Reply

  1694. Hi All – its good to be back from the hills of Kerala. We landed straight into a Baithak for Shankar Jaikishan where we met many OP fans and could not help but reminisce on those wonderful songs and that enjoyable Baithak of Feb 28 for OP Nayyar.

    Kaveetaji, belated Happy Birthday – and a big Godbless.

    I notice that the order of comments has reversed!! Good, though the only problem is that the serial numbers of all comments posted change each time a new comment is posted – and one cannot refer to specific posts by #. Any particular reason for recasting the order ?

    Comment by Naveen Anand — May 14, 2009 @ 12:02 pm | Reply

  1695. Anand ji..thanks for that terrific share. Prithviraj Kapoor was an icon who is unique in not just his contributions but his legacy in the form of his talented children. He and his wife have definitely been responsible for giving us the First family of Indian cinema. So many creative artists in a single family is quite a feat. Prithvi raj ji was one of the most humble, down to earth and lovable patriarchs ever. His simplicity and compassion is legendary. But this Tamil film bit was indeed a revelation.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — May 14, 2009 @ 12:15 pm | Reply

  1696. Hi Naveen ji. Lucky you.. first the calm of Kerala and then the music sessions. Thanks much for the wishes.

    Sorry for that glitch on comments. I faltered in the settings. have rectified it. Please let me know if there is anything else that needs to be looked into.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — May 14, 2009 @ 12:20 pm | Reply

  1697. Dear Kaveetaa ji & Opiums & Raffians,

    We all must thank Kaveetaa ji for giving us this wonderful platform ‘O.P.Nayyar – Not Forgotten’. I feel this platform along with OPN ji gives full credit and due respects to even his fellow collegues,producers,directors,artistes,singers,technicians,rivals,critics,etc etc.

    Remembering Sangeet Samrat OPN ji we also remember S.D.Burman,Naushad,Shankar Jaikishen,N.Dutta,Vasant Desai,Husnlal Bhagatram,Kalyanji Anandji,Laxmi-Pyare,R.D.Burman,A.R.Rehman……endless list.

    Remembering Shahenshah-E-Sangeet OPN ji we also remember Dilip Kumar,Raj Kapoor,Dev Anand,Shammi Kapoor,Joy Mukrg,Biswajeet,Rajendra Kumar,Dharmendra,Jhonny Walker,Guru Dutt,Shakti Samanta,Pramod Chakravarty,Ratan Mohan…….list dosen’t seems to end.

    Remembering Rythym King OPN ji can we forget most beautiful Madhu Bala,dual dimpled Sharmila,charming Rekha,versatile Nutan,her younger sister Tanuja,unforgetable Sadhna,stylish Asha…….I don’t know how to finish the list !

    Remembering Unforgetable OPN ji we also pay rich tributes to RAFI saheb,Kishore Kumar,Mukesh ji,Mahendra Kapoor ji,Talat ji,C.H.Atma,Manohari Singh ji,Hari Prasad Chaurasiya ji,Shiv Kumar Sharma ji,Rais Khan,Hazara Singh,Van Shipley…………..many still at large!

    Remembering Punjabi Puttar OPN ji we also pay respects to Asha ji, Lata ji,Geeta Dutt ji, Shamshad Begam ji, Suman Kalyanpur,Krishna Kalle,Vani Jayram,Suraiya ji, Noor Jehan ji………….many left behind !!

    Listening OPN combinations & enjoying them needs Mature Music Sense.
    Friends come and enjoy this OPN number:-

    Gustakh Nazar Chehre Se Hata sung by Rafi & Asha filmed on sexy Helen and evergreen Dev Anand from movie ‘Jali Note’

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 14, 2009 @ 6:30 pm | Reply

    • Anand ji. You are too kind. I consider it an honor that my site has been the space of such tributes to our legends. Mere words cannot explain their genius . All we can do is perpetuate their memory for aeons. You have yourself been an erstwhile contributor of many such memories. I need to thank you 🙂 Please carry on with your interesting comments.

      Helen was something else. Never before and never after another like her. Brilliant.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — May 15, 2009 @ 11:43 am | Reply

  1698. Dear Kaveetaa ji & Opiums,

    Please hear how comfortably Lata ji sings even Bengali Versions.

    Can someone identify the Hindi version of following songs !

    Three Hindi Songs ( I forgot the lyrics )

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/NonFilm-1960-LataMangeshkar-OBanshiKenoHai-SalilChoudhury-SalilChoudhury.mp3" /]

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/Monihaar-1966-LataMangeshkar-NijhumSandhyayPanthaPakhira-HemantaMukherjee.mp3" /]

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/Monihaar-1966-LataMangeshkar-AsharrSrabanManeyNaToMon-HemantaMukherjee.mp3" /]

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 16, 2009 @ 6:12 pm | Reply

  1699. Dear Raffians,

    I had been on a hunt for a Non Film patriotic song written by Jan Nisar Akhtar, composed by Khaiyyam ji, sung by RAFI saheb during Indo-China war in 1962. It is indeed a Masterpeice. Just enjoy it :-

    Awaaz Do Hum Ek Hain, Hum Ek Hain, Hum Ek Hain……

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 17, 2009 @ 10:18 pm | Reply

  1700. Dear Opiums,

    Here ends your search for an unreleased rare duet sung by RAFI & ASHA
    for movie BASANT composed by OPN ji.Hope you all enjoy it…….

    O MADAM NANCY, TOU ARE MY FANCY…….

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 19, 2009 @ 10:07 pm | Reply

  1701. Dear Opiums,

    The TRIO of Lalu,Paswan & Mulayam finally got what they desperately deserved. “A STRONG HARD KICK AT THEIR BACK” by Dr SARDAR Manmohan ji.Thanks to the hard efforts of Baba Ramdev ji to change the mindset of voters not to vote for blackmailers.

    What amazes me the most is – AB THAALI KE BAINGAN ‘Amar Singh’ ka kya hoga ! Well friends here I am dedicating an OPN song for Dalal Amar Singh. Hope you all enjoy ……..

    Chhuri Ban Kanta Ban O My Son sung by Rafi Saheb from Jali Note…

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 21, 2009 @ 8:56 pm | Reply

  1702. Hi Friends,

    Due to many reasons, I could not access Sachiniti for almost 3 months. My PCs were infected with virus. It took about two weeks to fix the PCs. Then we got busy with the new house construction and a wedding in the family. I need some time to read the comments put on this site for the past several months and bring myself up-to-date.

    It’s good to see that many of our friends being very active on the blog though a few pioneers seem to have assumed the role silent spectators.

    As it has been noted O.P. and Rafi are immortals and they will always be alive in our minds and hearts.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 25, 2009 @ 8:21 am | Reply

  1703. Dear Krishna Baru ji,

    A hearty welcome for your re-entry after 3 months.Hope your all commitments are finely & finally settled.Now we expect your active and regular participation.

    Sir,You rightly said OPN & RAFI are immortals.
    They both were like “PARAS” , whatever they touched…it became GOLD !

    Just to inform you…..please spare sometime at :-

    https://sachiniti.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/a-few-unforgettable-song-picturisations/

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 26, 2009 @ 8:12 pm | Reply

  1704. Dear Anandji,
    You brought a new dimension to Sachniti by posting videos. Can you pl. let us know how to do it? I also want to bring some rare gems of OP to revive the memories and tickle the ear buds of OPIUMS. but i have only audios though. I can make a video like the one you posted from you tube “oh Madam Nancy”, with pix of singers or of OP. I wish to do that way or only audio, that can be clicked on to play right here in Sachniti. But how to post it in Sachniti? I could not understand that step. Normally, we can post text comments only.
    I laud various comments of yours on many subjects, all of them.
    I want to add only this: Among the beauties that shone in the brilliance of Rhythm king OP and in turn made many of his songs memorable, I want to include (may be second-rung stars) Shakila, Kumkum, Geetha bali and Shyama. Shakila owes her rise to a reasonable stardom to Aarpaar and CID. Kumkum through her dances and wonderful smiling face gave many an OP song some indefinable plesantness. Shayma owed her very survival to OP. Though she was not a great beauty, somehow she appeared beautiful while performning for OP songs. Of course, geetha bali was not second-rung star
    Your mention of “hum tumke juda hoke” revived memories of the one and only Rafi. He sang scores of such soul stirring songs, about any one of which we can easily say “None else can sing like that”. Gareeb jaanke, Jaan saketho, Aana hai tho, Darshan kab doge, man mora bawara immediately come to mind from OP’s repertoire.
    Your “Madam Nancy” should remind opiums that perhaps many of us have under rated Basant which has many pleasant songs as well as many exhilarating songs.

    Comment by curao — May 27, 2009 @ 8:18 pm | Reply

  1705. Dear Curao ji,

    A hearty welcome for your re-entry after about a month !

    You rightly said…..There are countless who benefited from miraculous & melodious music of OPN.

    In my comment #1698 I really missed to say –

    Remembering Sangeet-E-Azam OPN ji we also pay tributes to S.H.Bihari,Sahir Ludhiyanvi, Majrooh Sultanpuri, Rajendra Krishan, Raja Mehandi Ali Khan Saheb,Anand Bakshi,Qamar Jalalabadi……I apologize for the names left behind.

    RAJESH KHANNA had also rightly said –
    “ORIGINALITY WAS THE SYMBOL OF O.P.NAYYAR SAHEB”

    Regarding posting of videos…it is very simple…I just simply copy the embed code & Paste it while sending a comment.

    You are to see some more rare videos at :-

    https://sachiniti.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/a-few-unforgettable-song-picturisations/

    Well CURAO SAHEB, here is a gift song for you…….
    King RAFI sings Telugu version of ‘Baar Baar Dekho, Hazaar Baar Dekho’
    Movie is ‘Bhale Tammudu’ released in 1969 music by T.V.Raju and the song is ‘Yenta Vaaru Gaani’

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 28, 2009 @ 10:22 pm | Reply

  1706. Anand Ji,

    Thanks for welcoming me back to the blog. You have put in lot of effort to add many video clips to the blog along with detailed comments. I need time to go through all of these and digest the material. Please give me some time.

    C U Rao Ji,

    Some time back you mentioned that you are looking for songs of the movie “Bina Maa Ke Bachhey”. I noticed three songs of this movie are on the Youtube. The number of O P’s songs on the Youtube are on the rise. Nearly 980 songs can be found, a few are duplicates.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — May 30, 2009 @ 10:35 pm | Reply

  1707. Dear Opiums,

    Here is a Good Chance for FREE DOWNLOADs –

    Numerous songs of NAUSHAD ji
    http://indianscreen.com/Naushad.htm

    Numerous songs & ghazals of TALAT MAHMOOD ji
    http://indianscreen.com/Talat.htm

    This Sunday just enjoy a Bhajan sung by King RAFI for ‘Shyam Ki Jogan’
    Kahan Gayi Bhagwan Bata Do

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 31, 2009 @ 1:32 pm | Reply

    • As usual great find Anand ji. Rafi was inimitable and is the greatest in his league.

      Krishna Ji.. welcome. I have been on vacation and therefore the delay in posting. Hope the wedding went well and all is fine with the family and yourself.

      Cu rao ji, posting videos on Sachiniti now is just a matter of copy paste of the embed code..and that is all. Its a new feature which has all of us delighted. Definitely on par with your previous comment. Such a load of information on Rafi. Your comment on Shyama got me thinking. Yes, certainly sometimes music and that of Ops genre can contribute miraculously to the career of any actor. Joy Mukherjee too benefitted greatly from Ops numbers I think. The songs of his films were all a hit and that added to his popularity notwithstanding the talent per se.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — June 1, 2009 @ 12:55 pm | Reply

  1708. Kaveethaji,
    Copy and paste is really wonderful news. It works nicely if i want to post from YT. But, suppose I want to post a video or audio from my own collection, where do I get the embed code? I presume I should first post it to YT and then get the embed code from there. Right? Even then it is fine.very useful indeed.
    I think there was one actor who definitely owed his rise and survival exclusively to OP-Rafi songs pictured on him. That was johny walker. Right from Aarpaar, when he got the name “johny Walker” given by Guru dutt, thro Gurdutt films and early films of OP, he flourished and the songs became very popular. No other example is needed than “yeh bomaby meri jaan”. The way OP-songs on him were becoming hits, prompted other producers and MDs to compose hilarious and exhilarating songs on him which also became hits. Ex: are : Sarjo tera of Pyasa, Jara rukja of Sitaronse aage, Lal lal gaal of Mr. X. Though he was mere comedian playing side roles, often we found the song on him was the major hit of many films. No wonder then, When johny produced his own films he preferred OP as MD for 3 successive films, all with great songs(My personal opinion).

    Comment by curao — June 2, 2009 @ 7:40 pm | Reply

    • Cu rao ji.. I am afraid the embed code works only for YT. From your own collection if its is posted elsewhere not just YT perhaps we can do it here..

      Johnny Walker was in a class quite his own. What I admire most of our legends of the time was the fact that they had no previous precedent to emulate. Their style and talent was unique and totally of their own making. I quite agree qith you that all of the songs picturised on him were hits.

      One tends to wonder what it is that most films/songs work those days. It certainly was the extent of involvement and the quality of creativity present. Also perhaps tastes were more naturally oriented. In the sense that what appealed was what was close to the heart. Today its more about what sells..marketing, hoopla, noise, pr about the product. People have forgotten to think for themselves. Everything has to be fed to them..including what their tastes should be. I really miss those days.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — June 7, 2009 @ 9:00 am | Reply

  1709. Dear Kaveetaa ji,

    JOY MUKHERJEE reminds me of a tall,handsome,mediocre talented,happy go lucky guy,married to a Punjabi lady Neelam of Patiala.He is Bhanja of Dadamoni Ashok Kumar & Kishore Kumar. He gave us many hits.But as nobody can take film industry for granted….he had to face his own sung lines of Humsaya song (‘Dil ki awaaz bhi sun’)
    “Waqt Insaan Ka Aisa Bhi Kabhi Aata Hai
    Raah Mein Chhod Ke Saya Bhi Chala Jata Hai”
    Well, we last saw Joy Mukherjee in a TV serial ‘Yeh Dil-e-Nadaan’

    Although OPN contributed great success to his songs, but he was lucky to get some hits from other music directors also.

    Among his non OPN hits we get of thinking :-

    Aaja re aa zara > Rafi > Love in Tokyo
    Dil beqarar sa hai hamko khumaar sa hai > Rafi > Ishara
    Ham bhi agar bacche hote nam hamara hota > Rafi > Door Ki Awaaz
    Le gayi dil gudiya japan ki > Rafi > Love in Tokyo
    O mere shah-e-khooba > Rafi > Love in Tokyo
    Saaz ho tum awaaz hun main > Rafi > Saaz Aur Awaaz
    Teri soorat se nahin milti kisi ki soorat > Rafi > Love in Tokyo
    Woh hain zara khafa khafa > Rafi > Shagird

    So it appears that apart from OPN ji, King RAFI was more instrumental in his hit songs with heroines like Asha,Saira,Vajyanti,Sadhna,Sharmila etc etc.. what else did he deserve !

    Well friends let dear Joy Mukherjee enjoy a Tonga ride with beautiful Saira Banu in a rare but melodious song composed by Naushad ji and sung by King RAFI & Asha from ‘Saaz Aur Awaaz’
    Pyar Ki Raah Bahar Ki Manzil

    Comment by Anand Berry — June 3, 2009 @ 8:04 pm | Reply

    • Ananad ji.. what an amazing knowledge. You can recapitulate so easily. Thanks.

      You have quoted a superb number for Joy Mukherji Op combination. I couldnt control myself..had to embed it for all OPN fans. It still manages to send shivers of thrill .

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — June 7, 2009 @ 8:50 am | Reply

  1710. Dear Curao ji,

    Although Jhonny Walker had maximum number of films with OPN ji like Baaz,Aar Paar,Musafirkhana,Mr & Mrs 55,Miss Coca Cola,Naya Andaz,C.I.D,Chhoo Mantar,Oaidi,Naya Daur,Mai Baap,Johnny Walker,Mujrim,Mr Qartoon M.A,12 O’clock,Basant,Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi,Kahin Din Kahin Raat,Dil Aur Mohabbat etc etc and they both gave us many many melodious RAFI hits.

    But one song that I wish to share with all Opiums is a song from BASANT. Lovely,Melodious song with so many places – Russia,China,England,India,Patiala,Ambala..

    & such big celebrities all coming together in it – RajKapoor,AshaBhosle,Rafi,SD.Burman,ShankarJaikishen,O.P.Nayyar,Naushad

    Ghoom Ke Aaya Hoon Main Bandhu Roos,Cheen,England…excellent combination of OPN + Jhonny Walker + King RAFI

    Comment by Anand Berry — June 5, 2009 @ 8:30 pm | Reply

  1711. Dear Opiums,

    Please hear how comfortably Lata ji sings even Bengali Versions:-

    Na Jiya Lage Na
    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/NonFilm-1969-LataMangeshkar-NaMonLageyNa-Salilchoudhury-Salilchoudhury.mp3" /]

    O Sajna Barkha Bahar Aayi
    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/NonFilm-1959-LataMangeshkar-NaJeyonaRajani-SalilChoudhury-SalilChoudhury.mp3" /]

    Ja Re Ja Re Ud Ja Re Panchi
    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/NonFilm-1959-LataMangeshkar-JareyJareyUreyJareyPakhi-SalilChoudhury-SalilChoudhury.mp3" /]

    Jago Mohan Pyare Jago
    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/EkdinRatre-1956-LataMangeshkar-JagoMohanPreetam-SalilChoudhury-SalilChoudhury.mp3" /]

    The third song ‘Jago Mohan Preetam’ is from the original Bengali Version of Raj Kapoor’s JAGTE RAHO called ‘EK DIN RATRE’ the only Bengali film Raj Kapoor ever worked.

    Comment by Anand Berry — June 7, 2009 @ 6:17 pm | Reply

  1712. Dear Opiums,

    Much has been said about the singing talents of Late Mahendra Kapoor saheb. Here I wish to send a song sung by him along with KING RAFI from the movie Aadmi. Incidently this song was first recorded in the voices of Rafi & Talat. But Manoj Kumar insisted to get Mahendra Kapoor after getting an impressive golden hit ‘Mere Desh Ki Dhatri Sona Ugle, ugle Heere Moti…

    Just listen the song when TITANS CLASHED. Rafi undoutedly is KING, but Mahendra also seems Second to None.TWO GREATS ToGETHER.

    RAFI for Dilip Kumar & MAHINDRA KAPOOR for Manoj Kumar.
    Kaisi Haseen Aaj Baharon Ki Raat Hai…beautiful lyrics by Shakeel and as ever melodious composition by MAUSEEQAR-E-AZAM Naushad Saheb.

    Comment by Anand Berry — June 7, 2009 @ 8:26 pm | Reply

  1713. I need some information about a beauty number of late O.P. Nayyar.

    “KYA KYA KYA DIL MEIN CHUPA HAI TERE YEH TAU BATA…” from movie USTAD.
    If anybody have this sone song,please forward it to me. That would be a great favour to me.

    Thanks.

    Comment by Majid — June 8, 2009 @ 5:54 pm | Reply

  1714. Belated birthday wishes to Samshad Begam ji. If I am correct 14th June was her birthday(90th birthday). I wish her a long and healthy life.

    G N Murty, Rajahmundry

    Comment by G N MURTY — June 16, 2009 @ 7:35 pm | Reply

  1715. Dear Anand

    No doubt Mahendra Kapoor has sung well.But I have the original Talat recording where Talat sounds definitely better like in the ‘Susila’ movie duet by Rafi and Talat.

    Comment by Ramamurthy — June 17, 2009 @ 7:07 am | Reply

  1716. I am Trying to Collect Opn Songs but I dont Have film like
    Do Dilon Ki Dastan
    Sabse Bada Rupiya
    Miss Coco Cola
    Duniya Rang Rangili
    Ustad
    Bade Sarkar
    Do Ustad
    Anyone Can Help Me ?

    My email is pbhushanjha@yahoo.com

    Comment by PBhushanjha — June 18, 2009 @ 11:25 pm | Reply

  1717. Well, I do not know Kaveetha ji and other RAFI fans. I wanted to post this song timeless piece for a long time. I made a video with a few pix and uploaded to YT. I pasted the embed I got there above. Hope it will work. What a marvellous song I am not finding enough adjectives to do full justice to that song.
    And thank you Kaveethaji and Anandji for your kindred thoughts on Johny walker. I posted such opinions on him at the beginning of my stint in Sachniti , but no one seconded me. Hence, I have been thinking that many music fans are biased against Johny walker. Your comments dispelled that doubt. Am I a fan of his? No, not at all. Was he great actor? no. But, Really big BUT, he lent his antics to a vast no of films, particularly those of OP they suited to a ‘T’ , a particular type of songs composed by OP and sung by Rafi. Examples are dozens. He was one of those who owed a lot to Gurudutt and especially OP. No wonder he gave his own productions 3 films in succession to OP, and Nayyar did not disappoint. There are real gems in Johny walker, Mai baap and Mr. Qartoon. It is altogether a different matter that they did not become hits. What made the songs on him likable was the dynamism or movements with absolutely no obscenity.
    “Today its more about what sells..marketing, hoopla, noise, pr about the product.” I have quoted you there Kaveethaji. You are absolutely correct. And those songs which did not become hits are much better stuff than present-day cacophony. There is now too much dynamism to our liking and gestures and movements of all sorts, which are better left uncommented.
    Anandji, I commented upon that song from Basanth long ago. a very hilarious one indeed.
    Two more song come immediately to mind: Muhse mat laga cheez hai buri of film johny Walker and Mai mai mai qartoon from Mr. Qartoon M.A.
    A critic commented like this on the OP-Rafi-Jaby combo. ” Rafi Never sang with such freedom and abandon as when he sang OP’s compostions for Johny.” I totally agree with him.

    Comment by curao — June 24, 2009 @ 8:05 pm | Reply

  1718. Well , Thank god god and Kaveetha ji. It worked.
    I so much want all the music lovers and Rafi fans to appreciate it.

    Comment by curao — June 24, 2009 @ 8:08 pm | Reply

  1719. Dear Curao ji,

    First of all lots of thanks and appreciation for the RAFI song.

    The association of Johny Walker with OPN was excellent.They both had 19-20 films together which no Hero can have that credit.I feel that OPN music composed films had a special created role and a hit song for Johny Walker. Even when OPN had a fallout with RAFI, he did care for Johny Walker.Just listen a song very well sung by Mahendra Kapoor for Johny Walker in movie DIL AUR MOHABBAT, an OPN composition..

    Aakhon Ki Talashi De De Mere Dil Ki Ho Gayi Chori..

    Comment by Anand Berry — June 25, 2009 @ 6:50 pm | Reply

  1720. A tribute to Michael Jackson. Hi untimely demise has left the world shocked. Plagued and harangued with controversy, nevertheless his genius was unmistakable. May the Almighty grant him everalsting peace.

    One of my favourite songs.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — June 27, 2009 @ 1:35 pm | Reply

  1721. Another legend is suddenly gone like Elvis. A great Shock for all his fans and pop music lovers. though what I know of Micheal Jackson’s music is very little, I did like what I heard. But, I can understand the vacuum he must have left in the world of pop music. May his soul rest in everlasting peace. Kaveetha ji, the one you posted is a soul stirring and thought provoking piece and is fitting tribute to his philanthropic attitude.
    Yes, Anandji, Ankhonki talshi is an example of MK adopting to OP and Johny wlaker. And, Thank you for your appreciation of Rafi’s “Khel-Jeewan-maran-ka” song of Mat bhul are insaan

    Comment by curao — June 27, 2009 @ 7:59 pm | Reply

  1722. here is a list of OPN songs which i’m searching for…rest all i hv in my collection…can anybody please provide to me n oblige? my e-mail id’s r as under…

    shishirkksharma@gmail.com / shishirkksharma@rediffmail.com

    thnx…

    1952 Film – Chham chhama chham
    1. Achchha wo tum the haaye zaalim tum they (asha)
    2. Pyaar bhare dil hain nadiya kinaare (asha, kishore)

    1954 Film – mangu (I have these songs, but quality is poor)
    1. Dol mere mann pyaar se – (asha)
    2. Bol pardesiya ye tone kya kiya – (asha)

    1955 Film – sabse bada rupaiya
    1. Aye dil na ro leke ansoo ke haar – (asha)
    2. Kahe patanga Deepak se…suno honthon pe dil ki baat – (asha)

    1956 Film – bhaagambhaag
    1. Darshan kabb doge – (rafi- geeta ) ( I have rafi’s part only)

    1956 Film – dhake ki malmal
    1. Preetam jubb aan milenge – (asha)

    1956 Film – hum sab chor hain
    1. Wo baat jispe ki dil darta hai – (asha)

    1956 Film – mr.lambu
    1. Aaj jo hum tum mil gaye – (geeta)

    1956 Film – shrimati 420
    1. Tum to hamre man me bhagwaan ban ke – (shamshad)
    2. Muhabbat se tujhe…tu laage mora baalma – (shamshaad)

    1957 Film – duniya rang rangeeli
    1. Kiya ye kya tone ishaara – (geeta)

    1957 Film – qaidi
    1. Humse bhi aate jaate – (asha)

    1957 Film – Ustaad
    1. Ye sama phir kahaan – (asha)
    2. So ja mere rajdulaare – (asha)
    3. Mile jo raah me chhede…bedardi, be-imaan, natkhat – (asha, sudha)

    1958 Film – kabhi andhera kabhi ujala
    1. Hum zid me aa gaye…bhagwaan tujhe rote huye – (asha)
    2. Kahin taaqat ke panje me…jahan waalon isey kehte hain – (kishore)

    1966 Film – do dilon ki dastaan

    1. Har jagah aapke kadmo ke nishaan milte hain – (rafi)

    1969 Film – sambandh
    1. Mai aankhon me Milan ki ek tadpan leke aayi – (asha)
    2. Mere paas hai aur na kuchh…ab to shamshaan ki maati – (m. kapoor)
    3. Apni mata ke dulare bachche – (hemant kumar)
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    UNRELEASED FILMS
    Ek gunaah aur sahi
    1. Khuda jannat se bhej ke pachhta raha hoga – rafi
    2. Teri duniya me jeena chaahta hoon – rafi

    Jawaani ki raat
    1. Kisi se haal e dil apna yahaan kahiye – rafi
    2. Aaj ki raat rangeli hai – vani jairam
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    NON – FILM SONGS
    1. Kaun nagar tera door thikana – (c.h.atma)
    2. Papi nahi gaa tu geet preet ke – (c.h.atma)
    3. Aya tha kis kaam se – (c.h.atma)
    4. Kit gayi man ki naav – (kamal roy, real name habib wali mohammad)
    5. Aag lagi man me more – (kamal roy)
    6. Diya to jala sab raat re baalam – (manmohan Krishna)
    7. Bujhe diye hua andhera – (manmohan Krishna)
    8. Chaudah raat ki bhayi chaandni – (n.l.puri)
    9. Punarjanm me miloongi baalam – (n.l.puri)
    10. Chalti chkki dekh ke diya kabira roy – (o.p.nayyar)
    11. Kabira rassi paanv me – (o.p.nayyar)
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 2, 2009 @ 2:17 pm | Reply

  1723. Dear Raffians,

    Well I dedicate a song sung by King RAFI.There is no day that goes by without listening to GEMS of RAFI. If I am fortunate enough to go to heaven, the first thing I will do is to listen to RAFI GEMS..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXTyNlqWoG8

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 4, 2009 @ 4:16 pm | Reply

  1724. Dear Shishir ji,

    A very hearty WELCOME after a gap of 150 days.

    Please have your desired song ‘Apni Mata Ke Dulare’ – Hemant Kumar

    http://www.guruji.com/music?hl=en&q=Apni+Mata+Ke+Dulare&sb=1

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 8, 2009 @ 10:00 pm | Reply

  1725. dear anandji, thnx for sending the link…the 3 ‘sambandh’ songs mentioned above though picturised were not released on LP record…i hv already taken out the audio of all ‘sambandh’ songs from the DVD, recently gifted by a good friend working with shemaroo video, the company having rights of this film…unfortunately ‘Mai aankhon me Milan ki ek tadpan leke aayi – (asha) is missing in the DVD as well thus i still need this one…now the total number of OPN songs i need is 36…i’ll be obliged if someone kindly provides the same…thnx in advance…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 11, 2009 @ 2:25 pm | Reply

  1726. dear all, i’hv got 1957 Film duniya rang rangeeli song ‘Kiya ye kya toone ishaara'(geeta)…thus the total no. of OPN songs i need is 35 now (mentioned as under)…pl send to shishirkksharma@gmail.com / shishirkksharma@rediffmail.com n oblige…thnx…

    1952 Film – Chham chhama chham
    1. Achchha wo tum the haaye zaalim tum they (asha)
    2. Pyaar bhare dil hain nadiya kinaare (asha, kishore)

    1954 Film – mangu (I have these songs, but quality is poor)
    1. Dol mere mann pyaar se – (asha)
    2. Bol pardesiya ye tone kya kiya – (asha)

    1955 Film – sabse bada rupaiya
    1. Aye dil na ro leke ansoo ke haar – (asha)
    2. Kahe patanga Deepak se…suno honthon pe dil ki baat – (asha)

    1956 Film – bhaagambhaag
    1. Darshan kabb doge – (rafi- geeta ) ( I have rafi’s part only)

    1956 Film – dhake ki malmal
    1. Preetam jubb aan milenge – (asha)

    1956 Film – hum sab chor hain
    1. Wo baat jispe ki dil darta hai – (asha)

    1956 Film – mr.lambu
    1. Aaj jo hum tum mil gaye – (geeta)

    1956 Film – shrimati 420
    1. Tum to hamre man me bhagwaan ban ke – (shamshad)
    2. Muhabbat se tujhe…tu laage mora baalma – (shamshaad)

    1957 Film – qaidi
    1. Humse bhi aate jaate – (asha)

    1957 Film – Ustaad
    1. Ye sama phir kahaan – (asha)
    2. So ja mere rajdulaare – (asha)
    3. Mile jo raah me chhede…bedardi, be-imaan, natkhat – (asha, sudha)

    1958 Film – kabhi andhera kabhi ujala
    1. Hum zid me aa gaye…bhagwaan tujhe rote huye – (asha)
    2. Kahin taaqat ke panje me…jahan waalon isey kehte hain – (kishore)

    1966 Film – do dilon ki dastaan
    1. Har jagah aapke kadmo ke nishaan milte hain – (rafi)

    1969 Film – sambandh
    1. Mai aankhon me Milan ki ek tadpan leke aayi – (asha)
    …………………………………………………
    UNRELEASED FILMS
    Ek gunaah aur sahi
    1. Khuda jannat se bhej ke pachhta raha hoga – rafi
    2. Teri duniya me jeena chaahta hoon – rafi

    Jawaani ki raat
    1. Kisi se haal e dil apna yahaan kahiye – rafi
    2. Aaj ki raat rangeli hai – vani jairam
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    NON – FILM SONGS
    1. Kaun nagar tera door thikana – (c.h.atma)
    2. Papi nahi gaa tu geet preet ke – (c.h.atma)
    3. Aya tha kis kaam se – (c.h.atma)
    4. Kit gayi man ki naav – (kamal roy, real name habib wali mohammad)
    5. Aag lagi man me more – (kamal roy)
    6. Diya to jala sab raat re baalam – (manmohan Krishna)
    7. Bujhe diye hua andhera – (manmohan Krishna)
    8. Chaudah raat ki bhayi chaandni – (n.l.puri)
    9. Punarjanm me miloongi baalam – (n.l.puri)
    10. Chalti chkki dekh ke diya kabira roy – (o.p.nayyar)
    11. Kabira rassi paanv me – (o.p.nayyar)
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 17, 2009 @ 5:42 pm | Reply

  1727. kaveetaji, i sent a post yesterday which disappeared after a few hours…this was in connection with my earlier post(no.1723) n thru this i had requested all to remove the following 3 songs from the list mentioned above as i’v got these n kindly help me to get rest of the 35 songs…

    1957 Film – duniya rang rangeeli – Kiya ye kya tone ishaara – (geeta)
    1969 Film – sambandh – Mere paas hai aur na kuchh…ab to shamshaan ki maati – (m. kapoor) / Apni mata ke dulare bachche – (hemant kumar)

    the same happened with the earlier post(no.1723) also which disappeared after a day or two n reappeared with anand berry ji’s posts…pl chk if there is any technical problem….thnx

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 18, 2009 @ 7:29 am | Reply

    • Shishirji I cannot fathom what the glitch may have been. Nevertheless rest assured that no comments can ever be lost. They may go into the spam folder which if informed I retrieve immediately. It may have been a momentary wordpress problem. All seems fine now. Great to see you back.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 21, 2009 @ 7:20 am | Reply

  1728. i’m amazed, the post has reappeared with the next one…kaveeta ji, i’m sure there’s some problem…pl chk…thnx

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — July 18, 2009 @ 7:42 am | Reply

  1729. Dear Kaveetaa ji,

    #1724 I had posted a very good video link of ‘Tu Shokh Kali Main Mast Pawan’sung by KING RAFI for our Raffians but unfortunately it didn’t open.I too agree with Shishir ji, it surely would be some technical problem.Pl arrange to check it…

    Somehow I again sent another fresh link for the same song with much better FLV & Audio. Lets see if it works…

    Tu Shokh Kali Main Mast Pawan sung by KING RAFI from ‘Main Suhagan Hoon’ composed by Lachhiram

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 20, 2009 @ 10:13 pm | Reply

    • Anand ji the link is working now. Do let me know of any other problem you may face. The song is simply marvellous.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — July 21, 2009 @ 7:27 am | Reply

  1730. Dear Kaveetaa ji,

    Thanks a lot for rectifying the link.

    Well, today is the birthday of Punjabi Puttar MUKESH ji, who was a class in himself.

    Although there are numerous hit songs to his credit but I fail to digest why this RARE GEM was not included in the film ANDAZ staring Dilip Kumar, Nargis & Raj Kapoor ! I suppose if included, it would have been piturized on Dilip Kumar as all the 4 solos ( Hum Aaj Kahin Dil Kho Baithe, Tu Kahe Agar Jeevan Bhar, Toote Na Dil Toote Na, Zhoom Zhoom Ke Naacho Aaj) sung by Mukesh ji were piturized on Dilip Kumar.

    Lost song from Blockbuster Movie ANDAZ sung by MUKESH ji & composed by none other than Great Naushad Saheb.
    Kyon Pheri Nazar, Dekho To Idhar…….

    Comment by Anand Berry — July 22, 2009 @ 8:02 pm | Reply

  1731. Those of you who still listen to the morning Hindi service of Radio Sri Lanka [ Radio Ceylon of old] would have noted that songs by Mohd Rafi sahib have featured prominently in their recent programmes, essentially because tomorrow is his 29th death anniversary.

    Yesterday’s programme was devoted to songs sung by Rafi for Johnny Walker, as it happened to be 6 years since Johnny Walker passed on. I think about 80% of the songs played were OPN compositions and they were wonderful. Notwithstanding the fact that these songs were picturised on a comedian, each of these songs had beautiful melody and were absolutely delightful. It re-endorsed OPN’s work ethics of giving his best, irrespective of who the song was picturised on.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — July 30, 2009 @ 4:49 pm | Reply

  1732. Hi Friends,

    After having been out of the loop for a long time, I have a lot to catch up on what’s happening on Sachiniti.

    Thanks to our friends (to name a few: Kaveeta ji, Purinder sahaeb, Anand ji, C U Rao ji, and Sishir Sharma ji), this blog seems to be flourishing.

    Kaveeta Ji, is there any way to know how many hits this post “Sachiniti” has recorded thus far this year i.e. number of hits?

    Anand Ji, thanks for providing us with the YT video clip of the song “Aakhon Ki Talshi” by MK and picturized on Johnny Walker in the movie Dil Aur Mohabbat. Recently I happen to find the song “Yaro Ki Tamnna Hain” by MK from Kahin Din Kahin Raat on YT. I did not realize that this song was picturized on Johnny Walker. This is a superb song. Overall, the songs of Kahin Din Kahin Raat were of high quality but unfortunately OP and MK did not receive the recognition they deserved.

    Purinder Saheb, it has been a while since we had a telephone conversation. I will try to reach you in the next couple of weeks.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — August 2, 2009 @ 11:33 am | Reply

  1733. Dear Kaveeta ji and all other friends contributing to or visiting this great blog, I am very happy to find that this blog is going great. I try to visit this blog whenever I get time. I just wanted to mention that even my fifteen month old granddaughter Tamanna (Tanu) has become an OP fan. A naughty little one,she would sit on my lap without making any move as long as she watches the videos of aaya tumpe dil aaya (Do Ustad), aankhon ki talashi dede and Uf yeh bekarar dil (both from Dil Aur Mohabbat). If anyone asks her to sing a song, she would say ‘aaya’ ! That is the magic of OP.

    Comment by Macheendran Keloth — August 3, 2009 @ 12:05 pm | Reply

  1734. After a long time, I am able to access this blog. I read the a few latest posts. Krishan garu, Purinderji! You both mentioned johny walker-OP combination. You both and I have been stressing flourishing together of OP-Johny walker, mostly with Rafi who perhaps suited best, and a few times with others. Some of the most exhilarating, exuberant, and ebullient duets of OP were on johny walker, especially when Geetha was also around. It was owing to OP that Rafi-Johny walker combination became so popular that other composers too were forced to have one or two songs on johny to create hits. Often, The song on johny walker was the most popular song of the film, for nearly a decade from 1954.
    I would like to mention another fact among OP songs, though without a basis of statistical nos. OP must have had a special liking for composing songs with 2 and sometimes 3 female singers. And, more often than not, they were popular, and invariably they were very likable for me, without any exception. I can not a find even a single such song which can be considered “not so good”. I wish some of us would list all such songs and find their proportion to the total no. of songs composed by him. I presume it may be one of the highest among all composers. Of course, we can generally say that Naushad, and CR also composed many. But, were they as high a proportion as OP’s?

    Comment by curao — August 3, 2009 @ 6:52 pm | Reply

  1735. Post 1727 of Shishirji:
    Though i have a few from the list, abt 4 to 5, I too badly need others in the list. I will be most grateful if any one can supply some or all of them even at a price. Lest any one take offense at my mention of price, let me clarify that it only indicates my strong desire to have them.

    Comment by curao — August 3, 2009 @ 7:29 pm | Reply

  1736. Dear Opiums,

    I remained a silent observer whenever Curao Saheb and some other music listeners very oftenly scored Geeta over Asha. But after listening lots of songs of Geeta, Geeta with Rafi, Geeta with Kishore, Hemant,Talat, Mukesh,Manna etc etc….

    Now I fully agree that Geeta Was Much more versatile rather a CLASS in herself. It could be Bad Luck for OPN & Geeta to part ways..

    Well friends don’t miss a golden chance to download plenty of songs of Geeta Dutt, Rafi Saheb, compositions of OPN ji at

    http://www.indianscreen.com

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 3, 2009 @ 7:46 pm | Reply

  1737. Truly a class in herself, Anandji. While there is no doubt that Lata and Asha were great singers, by the sheer no. of songs or hit songs sung by them in comparison with others, Geetha was something special: seductive, alluring, lilting. There were many songs in whcih other singers(with the exception of Lata), tried mimicking Geetha, but Geetha never had to imitate others. That substantiates your saying that she was a class by herself.
    Recently, there were many Rafi_Geetha duets posted in YT also-many non-OP songs.

    Comment by curao — August 6, 2009 @ 6:55 pm | Reply

  1738. Dear Curao Saheb,

    Today is a wonderful day as all digits from 1 to 9 had come together!
    This happened at 12:34:56 7/8/9. Hope you figured out how!
    Live the moment & Enjoy it!

    Sometimes I feel that our most talented SHAMSHAD BEGUM ji was also no less than Asha. One has to hear the songs that she sung along with Asha and that makes you confused …..

    Hum Pe Dil Aaya To Bolo Kya Karoge, Humne Tadpaya To Bolo Kya Karoge sung by Shamshad,Asha & KING RAFI /Do Ustad/ music by OPN

    Idhar Dekh Mera Dil Tera Diwana Hai,Yeh To Tera Aashiq Bada Purana Hai sung by Shamshad & Asha / Jali Note/ music by OPN

    Kajra Mohabbatwala, Akhiyon Mein Aisa Dala, Kajre Ne Leli Meri Jaan, Hai Re Main Tere Qurbaan sung by Shamshad & Asha/ Kismat/ music by OPN

    Leke Pehla Pehla Pyar, Bhar Ke Ankhon Mein Khumaar sung by Shamshad, Asha & KING RAFI / C.I.D./ music by OPN

    Main Main Main Qartoon sung by Shamshad, Asha & KING RAFI/ Mr Qartoon M.A. sung by Shamshad, Asha & KING RAFI/ music by OPN

    Reshmi Salwar Kurta Jali Ka, Roop Saha Na Jaye Nakhrewali Ka sung by Shamshad & Asha/ Naya Daur/ music by OPN

    Can someone honestly say who scored over the other!

    I HONESTLY feel that only OPN the GENIUS could..

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 7, 2009 @ 6:29 pm | Reply

  1739. I can not agree with you more Anandji. Shamshad too, like Geeetha, was a special treat. Only OPN could and did. I think it was Siraj ji, who has been tracking his biography, Who quoted OPN himself saying that Shamshad and Geetha were his best female singers. in this very blog, long long back.
    Actually, Though Shamshad and Geetha, amaong his female singers, were recognised as great singers by other MDs too, Their songs for OPN had a different flavor altogether, particularly those of Shamshad. What to speak of those gems of Asha, shamshad, Rafi together? He gave chances to Shamshad, even after many MDs preferred other singers by then. It is so gratifying that shamshad’s last song was for OPN in Kazra mohobbat. Idhar dekh mera dil by asha-shamshad in Jalinote? This is the first time I ever heard of it. Iam thinking that I have all the songs of Jalinote.
    The beauties he created with 2 or 3 female singers about which I mentioned a few posts above, started with somewhat less known song from Qaidi, ” Be dard preet nahin jaani” by Asha and Usha. It has been an enduring favorite of mine since i first heard it as a teen. The incomparable Reshmi salwar, kazra mohobbat, Thandi thandi hawa by Asha_Geetha and so many others-an especial class by themselves among OPN’s special treats to music lovers.

    Comment by curao — August 7, 2009 @ 8:31 pm | Reply

  1740. O.P.Nayyar ji is definetely one of the greatest music directors of all times. He is the only successful music director without lata ji.If he had made lata ji sung some of his songs like:Yeh he reshmi Zulfoon, Aye aap kahan and many more, it would have left still much better impact on the listeners.He is undoubtedly one of the greatest Music Directors of all times.His style was unique.May his soul rests in peace.

    Comment by Khawaja Shujauddin — August 10, 2009 @ 2:26 am | Reply

  1741. I sent my comments a few minutes ago but I did not see them here.Any reason

    Comment by Khawaja Shujauddin — August 10, 2009 @ 2:39 am | Reply

  1742. #1736 respected curao saheb, as u mentioned, pl let me know which 4-5 of the songs i need do u hv? cn u pl mail these to me to either of the following addresses n oblige?

    shishirkksharma@gmail.com / shishirkksharma@rediffmail.com

    if u don’t mind, i’m ready to pay for these songs.

    am eagerly waiting for ur reply n the said songs…thnx in advance.

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 11, 2009 @ 12:05 pm | Reply

  1743. Dear Curao Saheb,

    Although there may be diffrence of opinion between us in regard to singing skills of Shamshad Begum ji, but personally I feel that Shamshad Begum’s voice was very rich and unimitable.Apart from OPN she holds the credit of giving several hits under the baton of Naushad saheb, Dada S.D.Burman, Punjabi films music director Hans Raj Bahl and many others..

    We see plenty of musical contests & programmes on various TV channels and we see dozens of copycats & clones of Lata & Asha, but perhaps no one can risk to imitate the one and only Shamshad Begum ji.Her duets with King Rafi are MONEY CAN’T BUY songs. Be it –

    Aaja Dil Naal Dil Nu Milale
    Bhiga Bhiga Pyar Ka Sama, O Gori Tujhe Jana Hai Kahan
    Humne Jab Dil Tha Diya
    Jat Jati Nu Darawan Aaya
    Jat Kudiyan To Darda Mara
    Khabar Kya Thi Ke Gham
    Main Jaan Gayi Tujhe Saiyan
    Nakhre Dikhla Dil Le Liya
    Rab Na Kare Je Chala Jayen Tu Bichad Ke
    Teri Meri Ek Jindree
    Teri Kanak Di Rakhi Mundeya Hun Main Nahin Karni
    Thora Sa Dil Laga Ke Dekh
    Tu Peeng Te Main Parchawan

    Please get her melodious song of Jali Note sung with Asha
    Idhar Dekh Mera Dil Tera Diwana Hai,Yeh To Tera Ashiq Bada Purana Hai

    http://guruji.com/music?q=Jali+Note+songs&s=10&hl=en&f=

    Please note Kajra Mohabbatwala song sung by Shamshad ji may be the last song she sang for OPN in 1968 for Kismat, but her final and the last song was NACHE ANG VE for 1970 movie Heer Ranjha composed by Madan Mohan ji.This masterpeice song she shared with Jagjit Kaur & Noor Jehan.To get this song just press the following link..

    http://guruji.com/music?lang=Hindi&q=Nache+Ang+Ve&sb=1&f=

    Well friends today is our 62nd Independence, should it be Celebrated!!
    Just listen the truth of our Leaders in a song by KING RAFI

    Azaadi Ayee Bhi To Kya

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 15, 2009 @ 5:42 pm | Reply

  1744. Unbleavable, unforgottable songs of O.P. Sahab.

    I have a collection of his songs & remembering him daily.

    Comment by Rajeev Gupta — August 16, 2009 @ 3:00 pm | Reply

  1745. Krishna ji and Rao sahib, it is good to note that you both are back with us. Now only Kaveetaa ji is missing !![ Kaveetaa ji , only pulling your leg]

    Rao sahib it was interesting to read your post #1740 on Shamshad and OPN. I liked what you wrote but am not completely in consonance with your views. I feel that while OP used Shamshad frequently and that she sang some delectable numbers under OP’s baton, she somehow comes across as the ‘second string’ artiste when compared with Geeta Dutt and then later Asha Bhonsle. Although I can not be fully sure, my guess is that Shamshad’s songs were rarely picturised on the herione of the film. That privilege was reserved for Geeta Dutt in the pre-1957 period and later on for Asha Bhonsle.In my opinion music directors like Naushad placed Shmashad Begum at a higher pedestal than OPN. If you have the chance to listen to the duet “Kyon unhe dil diya” from Anokhi Ada and sung by Shamshad and Surendra, you will recognise what I am trying to articulate.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 18, 2009 @ 4:00 pm | Reply

  1746. Oh!1 after a long time, i am able to access Sachniti. I do not know why i was failing to open it. now, i find that I have to catch up a lot.
    First, Purinderji: There is not disputing the facts you mentioned, which I also am aware of. I did not mention any thing that is not in agreement with what you said. When I said “only OPN did know”, I was only mentioning what someone said in this sachniti quoting OPN’s opinion that he liked Sahamshad and Geetha best. It just happened to coincide with my opinion. But not what he did, which was as we all know. Except perhaps Naya andaz and the obscure film Cham chama cham. Shamshad was not filmed on the heroine to any apreciable extent . Any way these are well known facts.
    And, Anandji, I am a great fan of Shamshad, and there is also no disagreemnt with what you said. Anokhi ada, Dulari, anmol ghadi, Patanga of CR have many time-less classics of Shamshad. Except this impression of mine: By the time OPN started giving some songs to Shamshad, her earlier patrons, Naushad, CR, AB etc., also stopped giving heroine based songs to her. OPN perhaps gave more importance to her than other contemporary MDs (and not more than Geetha or Asha). I did not collect any statistics to prove this.
    Shishirji, i will send the songs in the next 2 or 3 days.

    Comment by curao — August 20, 2009 @ 7:57 pm | Reply

  1747. #1747 thnx curao saheb…am eagerly waiting for the songs…also please let me know if u hv got ‘mangni’ songs?

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 21, 2009 @ 7:35 am | Reply

  1748. A little more explanation on the previous post. my post of yesterday was a hurried one and may not have clarified the way I wanted to, on all the comments raised against my post, which was actually meant to add my appreciation also to others who already did for Shamshad’s.
    Anandji , my “only OPN could and did” were exactly only in response to your comment “I HONESTLY feel that only OPN the GENIUS could..”, to be read and interpreted in juxtaposition in your prev. post, #1739. If you do not mind, pl go through the later part of your post. What i meant in plain words was ” OPN opined that he liked Shamshad and Geetha were best, according to a post by one of us, in Sachniti itself , most probably, Siraj khan. I have been telling right from my entry into Sachniti that I too like them best. Pl. observe that i am not saying that they are the best, only that I personally like them best.
    Purinderji, I steess again that I have been mentioning about my liking for Shamshad time and again in sachniti, not only with OPN but with other MDs as well. That being so, I could not understand with which statement of mine you are not in complete consonance.
    Any way, what surprised me, was that both of you made me appear as if I am not aware Shamshad’s contribution to OPN and others, and as if I opposed to your appreciating her, where as the fact is I have been always (I repeat again) praising her singing.
    And, Anandji, I stand corrected about Kajra mohobbat being the last song of Shamshad.
    Shishirji, pl. do not mention payment. I am ready to fully share whatever I have. Only time and method of sending.

    Comment by curao — August 21, 2009 @ 6:16 pm | Reply

  1749. Dear Curao Saheb,

    Regarding your first time ever heard song of Jali Note “Idhar Dekh Mera Dil Tera Diwana Hai” sung by Shamshad & Asha music by OPN..and the last song of Shamshad Begum please refer my post #1744 sent alongwith refered links..hope it helps to solve your confusion.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 21, 2009 @ 9:58 pm | Reply

  1750. I posted a further explanation to #1747 yesterday, but, it got removed. OK let it go. Only this concise piece would suffice.
    in my post #1740, I only wanted to add my little appreciation for SB, to what Anandji has already done. I did not make any controversial or arguable statements there.
    I am really surprised at both Anandji and Purinderji saying “opinions differ” and ‘not in consonance”. Certainly our opinions differ on many things, it is natural unobjectionable. We are here only to share such different opinions. But nothing in my post 1740 comes under that class. What you said about Shamshad in posts 1744 and 1746 also echo my own opinions. We seem to be saying the same things , perhaps in different ways.
    Right from the time I entered Sachniti, I have been all praise for Shamshad, not only for OPN but other MDs as well, being her ardent fan. Being her fan, I am aware of most of the positives and facts you said about her singing. My collection of her songs is considerable though not exhaustive.
    Anandji, I stand corrected on Kazra mohobbat being her last song. Thank you for the same. The wonder is actually, Nurjehan too in 1970!!!. I did not know that.

    Comment by curao — August 22, 2009 @ 5:59 am | Reply

  1751. #1744 dear anandji, ‘kajra mohabbat waala’ was shamshadji’s last recorded song, though a few of her (previously recorded) songs including ‘naache ang we’ got released later…

    #1749 respected curao saheb, sorry that i hurt u for asking about payment…but can i ask if u hv got ‘mangni’ songs?

    #1751 this is some other noorjehan who sang a few songs in 70’s…one of her hits was ‘jo bujhe na kabhi aisi aag lagaoongi’ (film – ooparwaala jaane / 1978 / lyrics – asad bhopali / music – LP)…interestingly HMV is also confused about the two noorjehans as this song is included in senior NJ’s ‘golden collection’ series ACD…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 22, 2009 @ 7:42 am | Reply

  1752. #1752 same year, i.e. in 1970 there also released shamshadji’s another song (rather a parody) with mahendra kapoor, ‘pyaar kiya to darna kya’ (film – raton ka raja / lyrics – rajesh nahata / music – RDB) but all these songs were recorded long back i.e. prior to ‘kajra mohabbat waala’…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 22, 2009 @ 8:00 am | Reply

  1753. Rao sahib , I guess I need to explain my views about OPN and Shamshad Begum further and why I did not fully agree with you.

    When I read your words ” Though Shamshad and Geetha, among his female singers, were recognised as great singers by other MDs too, their songs for OPN had a different flavor altogether, particularly those of Shamshad”, I could not, in all honesty agree with these views. Purely my personal point-of-view.

    Although Shamshad might have sung her heart out for OPN, she did not necessarily get the best songs of the movies in which OPN composed the music. This honour was reserved in the earlier movies for Geeta Dutt and later on for Asha Bhonsle. The fact that Shamshad made the best of the unequal situation, speaks volumes about her singing skills.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 23, 2009 @ 2:32 pm | Reply

  1754. But Purinderji,
    After all, I said merely “different” and did not say “better” and deliberately avoided saying so, being well aware of the facts mentioned by you. That is why I wondered with what you could not agree. That being so,I reassert what you quoted me in the first para and personally think that there is nothing in it to which one can take exception to. Natuarlly, that is my own personal opinion on what I said. I repeat my meaning “OPN-Shamshad had a different flavor”. (What difference? How different? I can not explain that, just as I can not explain why I am crazy about OPN songs.) If you still think there is something which you can not agree with, let us agree to differ.

    On the other hand, I fully endorse what you said in 2nd para. That was and is still my opinion too. That OPN did not give as much importance as he gave to Geetha and Asha is a historical fact, and more so to Asha. The net result was in Shamshad’s career, she ended up with great timeless classics with other MDs and some memorables with OP. I never compare OP’s songs of any singer in quality, greatness or popularity with songs of other MDs. OP’s songs are always special treats to me to be enjoyed in absolute terms and not in comparative terms.
    Sorry to all the OPIUMS for being the cause of this prolonged discussion. I am afraid whatever I say, is leading to objections and controversies. My apologies once again.

    Comment by curao — August 24, 2009 @ 7:13 pm | Reply

  1755. Shishirji,
    about payment. i was not offended at all. I only saw your yearning for collecting OP’s songs in that, Just like mine. I too am willing to share any expenses in collecting the songs in your list.
    BTW, I sent you 3 songs to your gmail addr. . Did you receive them? Pl. reply to my email addr. If they successfully reached you, I can send you 3 more and unfortunately, no more from your list. Let us hunt for the remaining together.
    Sorry, I do not have any Mangni, but have all Neerajanams.

    Comment by curao — August 24, 2009 @ 7:40 pm | Reply

  1756. Dear Curao Saheb
    Dear Purinder ji
    Dear Shishir ji

    Could anyone of you please help me to find out the name of Movie of the following songs..

    Kothay Se Bara Lamba Hamara Banna, Bijli Ka Lage Khamba Hamara Banna.. sung by Shamshad ji

    Hum Ishq Ke Maron Ko, Do Dil Jo Diye Hote, Humne Na Kabhi Unke Ehsaan Liye Hote.. sung by Suraiya ji.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 24, 2009 @ 10:10 pm | Reply

  1757. respected curao saheb, i hvn’t received the songs yet n i’m not aware if they landed in my junc mail which i emptied without proper check…please resend (to my rediffmail account also)n oblige…i’ll send u ‘mangni’ songs in a day or two…also pl let me know if u hv ‘penaz masani’, ‘ashok khosla’ n ‘runa laila’ albums?

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 24, 2009 @ 10:10 pm | Reply

  1758. dear anandji, details of the song ‘Hum Ishq Ke Maron Ko, Do Dil Jo Diye Hote, Humne Na Kabhi Unke Ehsaan Liye Hote…’ r as under…

    film – Bilwamangal (1954) starring Suraiya, Ulhas, Nirupa Roy & Asha Mathur.
    Producer: Minal Movies
    Director: D. N. Madhok
    Lyrics: D. N. Madhok
    Music Director: Bulo C. Rani

    i’m not able to recollect any detail about shamshadji’s song rt nw…pl gv some time…thnx…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 24, 2009 @ 10:22 pm | Reply

  1759. Shishir ji,

    You are amazing considering the wealth of knowledge and information that you have about music and the related film industry of old. Have you ever considered publishing it or is it already availabe as a compilation ?

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 25, 2009 @ 12:11 pm | Reply

  1760. purinderji…i had columns ‘kya bhooloon kya yaad karoon’ n ‘log’ in hindi weekly sahara samay (now closed)for which i interviewed almost all the long forgotten n retired artistes…presently i’m writing for ‘rajasthan patrika’s saturday supplement bollywood’…hv all the write ups in my computer as well as in hard copies but due to certain reasons and a few commitments am not getting time to compile them though there are certain offers to publish…for 7-8 months i was busy writing dialogues of the serial ‘jaane kya baat hui’ on ‘colors’ which went off-air some time back…then i also did hindi-urdu adaptation of dialogues of the feature film ‘sikandar’ which released last Friday…due to all this i cudn’t even complete my book ‘pack up ke baad’ which was supposed to come in market last year…anyway, i’ll try to complete all this as soon as possible…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 25, 2009 @ 12:41 pm | Reply

  1761. Shishir ji, thank you very much for your last post. It explains a lot. When in doubt about old movies , I now know who to turn to.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 25, 2009 @ 12:56 pm | Reply

  1762. purinderji…pl don’t over-estimate me…i’m simply a student of history of indian cinema…but i wud definitely love to share with u all, whatever is in my knowledge…regards…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 25, 2009 @ 2:57 pm | Reply

  1763. Shishir ji – While I already know Asha Bhonsle’s first & the last song for OPN, would you by any chance know the first and last songs[ including duets] that were sung for OP Nayyar by :
    – Rafi sahib,
    – Geeta Dutt
    – Kishore Kumar
    – Shamshad Begum and
    – Mahendra Kapoor

    This knowledge will give added meaning to my listening pleasure, whenever I hear rare songs from my OPN collection.

    Many thanks in advance.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 25, 2009 @ 4:31 pm | Reply

  1764. dear purinderji…it’s really difficult to tell about the first n last song as there might be more than one song of a particular singer in a single movie…still here is a list of songs sung by the said singers released in the same year…

    RAFI : 1st song – ghata me chhup ke bhi bijli (baaz / 1953)
    last – 1.honth hain tere do laal heere (duet with dilraj kaur)
    2.o girdhari…o more shyaam (with manna de & chorus)
    3.zindagi lekar hatheli par deewaane aa gaye
    (with manna de, dilraj kaur, chorus)
    (all 3 from heera-moti / 1979)
    4.jab yaad tumhari hamey
    5.chhod babul ka ghar angna
    6.bin maa ke ye bachhe dekho
    7.dil jhoom rahe masti me (with pushpa pagdhare & chorus)
    (all 4 from bin maa ke ye bachhe / 1979)

    GEETA : 1st song 1. dekho jadu bhare more nain
    2. arrey kya hoon mai na khizaan hoon
    3. dil hai deewana
    4. pom pom pom baja baaje dholak dhin dhin dhin (with chorus)
    (all 4 from aasmaan / 1952)
    Last : in the year 1958, there released maximum 9 OPN films… 12 O’ clock, farishta, howrah bridge, kabhi andhera kabhi ujala, mr. qartoon m.a., mujrim, phagun, raagini, sone ki chidiya… in 6 of these, geeta sang – 4 solos, 2 solos with chorus, 2 male duets & 3 female duets thus total 11 songs…it is said that ‘dil tera deewaana o mastani bulbul’ (with asha b.) was geeta’s last recorded song for OPN.

    KISHORE KUMAR : 1st : he sang 6 duets with asha b. & 1 with shamshad begum in CHHAM CHHAMA CHHAM (1952)
    Last : 1.kitne atal the tere iraade
    2.roop tera aisa darpan me naa samaaye
    3.savere ka sooraj tumhaare liye hai
    4.kitne atal the tere iraade (with asha)
    5.ik baar muskura do (with asha, chorus)

    SHAMSHAD BEGUM : 1st : taraste hain, tadapte hain, machalte hain (with kishore kr.) –
    chham chhama chham / 1952
    last : kajra mohabbat waala (with asha) – kismet / 1968

    MAHENDRA KAPOOR : 1st : according to mr. m.kapoor, his first song with OPN was mera pyaar wo hai ke mar kar bhi tumko – (ye raat phir na aayegi)
    Last : 1. kitaabe ishq ka parhna kabhi kharaab nahi
    2. hum teri yaad me roye
    3. pyar pyar to sab kehte hain
    4. aisa ho Milan mehboob mere
    5. ab kahan pyaar me pakeezgi ka namo nishaan (with anuradha paudwal)
    (all 5 from JAANE MEHBOOB)
    6. gori gori o gore zalim
    7. seene me agar dil hai
    8. mere pyar ka faisla likhne waale
    9. kya ye mumkin hai hum dono (with pushpa pagdhare)
    10.sone me sugandh milaai gayi (with pushpa pagdhare)
    11.sarv mangal mangalye…hare Krishna hare Krishna (with pushpa pagdhare, chorus) (all 6 from muqaddar ki baat)
    Though jaane mehboob & muqaddar ki baat are OPNs unreleased films, yet as per my knowledge, jaane mehboobs songs were recorded later

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 25, 2009 @ 6:29 pm | Reply

  1765. Shishir ji – I can only say WOW! A million thanks.

    You are right about 1958 being the high point in OPN’s career with 10 movies and almost 80 songs , which translates into 1 new composition every 4-5 days. Absolutely, incredible!!

    I have many if not most of the songs of theses movies and can vouch for the exceedingly high percentage of catchy and melodious numbers and top class compositions. I guess this is the genius of OPN that separates him from many other composers. Quantity with quality.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 25, 2009 @ 7:00 pm | Reply

  1766. #1766 purinderji, total number of OPN’s films released in 1958 is 9 (not 10 as you said) which r as under-

    1 – 12 O’ clock
    2 – farishta
    3 – howrah bridge
    4 – kabhi andhera kabhi ujala
    5 – mr. qartoon m.a.
    6 – mujrim
    7 – phagun
    8 – raagini
    9 – sone ki chidiya

    total number of songs in these 9 films are 78

    i need 2 out of these 78 songs…n those 2 songs r from the film kabhi andhera kabhi ujala

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 25, 2009 @ 7:50 pm | Reply

  1767. Shishir ji – I stand corrected. 9 movies instead of 10. I somehow included Ustad which I think was released in the following year.

    But my guess about the number of songs was quite accurate – 80 instead of 78. Hopefully there is no disputing about OPN’s high output without endangering the proclivity of producing sweet melody and foot-tapping rythm.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — August 26, 2009 @ 7:41 am | Reply

  1768. dear purinderji, i don’t know why my previous post hasn’t appeared here, it may reappear after i post this one…anyway, film ustad was released in 1957 under the banner of shri krishna films…producer was sunil & dharmesh darshan’s father mr. darshan n director was mahesh bhatt’s father nanabhai bhatt…starring ashok kumar, anjali devi, anita guha, kumkum n k.n.singh, ustad had 7 songs penned by jaan nisar akhtar…

    1. ye samaa phir kahaan – asha
    2. so ja mere rajdulaare – asha
    3. mile jo raah me…bedardi, beimaan, natkhat sanwaria – asha, sudha malhotra
    4. jaan sake to jaan – rafi
    5. chor lutere daku – geeta
    6. kiske liye beqaraar gori aaj tera pyaar – asha, rafi
    7. kya kya kya kya dil me chhupa hai tere – geeta, rafi

    no doubt, OPN had his own unique style which definitely compelled most of his contemporary MD’s to compose his kind of music at one or other moment…

    i’m desperately searching for first 3 songs mentined above…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 26, 2009 @ 8:42 am | Reply

  1769. #1757 Kothay Se Bara Lamba Hamara Banna, Bijli Ka Lage Khamba Hamara Banna.. sung by Shamshad ji

    dear anandji, this song was recorded by MD ghulam mohd. for pakeezah but wasn’t used in the film…this was later released in pakeezah ‘rangbirangi’…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — August 26, 2009 @ 7:58 pm | Reply

  1770. Dear Shishir ji,

    Thanx a lot for the movie names of 2 songs I was searching for..

    A point to be noted –

    KING RAFI, Mukesh ji, Kishore Kumar,Hemant Kumar & Talat Mahmood. All of them ruled the world of playback singing and all of them died suddenly of a Heart Attack. It just shows how intensely passionate they were & how much strain they put on their HEARTS while singing.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 30, 2009 @ 8:05 pm | Reply

    • Hello dear dear OPIUMS,

      First of all my sincere apologies for having been incommunicado for so long. There were certain pressing personal matters that needed my attention. I have simply enjoyed the comments above by all. Although I must confess it made me feel so inadequate as compared to the knowledge shared by all. I am so delighted that such enormously educative discussions take place here..Simply mind blowing. Soon I guess we will create a record of some kind on the web ( if not already) for the highest number of views and comments on a blogsite..The credit for which goes most certainly to the genius of OPN and the contribution of his staunch devoted fans here.

      Shraadh begins on the 5th I miss my parents very much. As luck would have it I just chanced upon a ghazal sung by Jagjit Singh which was written by my father Dr. Chandar Oberoi..one of the many which he had written over the years and sung by Kishore Kumar , Alka yagnik etc.. I have them on a cd but to find them on the net was wonderful. Enjoy!

      [audio src="http://wais-rahman.persiangig.com/audio/%C2%A7corpio%C3%B1%20-%20JAGJIT%20SINGH%20-%20MERI%20AJAB%20HAY%20ZINDAGI.MP3" /]

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — September 2, 2009 @ 8:11 pm | Reply

  1771. Fascinating song Kaveetaa ji. Really lilting and the lyrics were thought provoking. It must be painful to bear the loss of a parent. also one so talented and loving.

    Friends I just read this article on Rediff excerpts from Lata Mngeshkars book. It was interesting to peek into her humbe beginnings and travels by train with Dilip Kumar and Kishore Kumar. Unbelievable!!

    http://movies.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/sep/25/slide-show-1-excerpts-from-lata-mangeshkar-in-her-won-voice.htm

    What a life she has lived!

    Comment by Jatin Lal — September 25, 2009 @ 11:46 am | Reply

  1772. Dear Opiums,

    Here is a rare treat when two Begums (Shamshad & Mubarak) sung together. Just enjoy..

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 12, 2009 @ 8:19 pm | Reply

  1773. #1727 hi all…here is an amended list of OPN songs i’m desperately searching for…now the total no. of required songs is 24 as i’v got rest 11, thnx to music lover friends…pl help n send to –

    shishirkksharma@gmail.com / shishirkksharma@rediffmail.com

    …thnx in advance…

    1952 Film – Chham chhama chham
    1. Achchha wo tum the haaye zaalim tum they – (asha)
    2. Pyaar bhare dil hain nadiya kinaare – (asha, kishore)

    1955 Film – sabse bada rupaiya
    1. Aye dil na ro leke ansoo ke haar – (asha)

    1956 Film – dhake ki malmal
    1. Preetam jubb aan milenge – (asha)

    1956 Film – mr.lambu
    1. Aaj jo hum tum mil gaye – (geeta)

    1956 Film – shrimati 420
    1. Tum to hamre man me bhagwaan ban ke – (shamshad)

    1957 Film – qaidi
    1. Humse bhi aate jaate – (asha)

    1957 Film – Ustaad
    1. Ye sama phir kahaan – (asha)
    2. So ja mere rajdulaare – (asha)
    3. Mile jo raah me chhede…bedardi, be-imaan, natkhat – (asha, sudha)

    1958 Film – kabhi andhera kabhi ujala
    1. Hum zid me aa gaye…bhagwaan tujhe rote huye – (asha)
    2. Kahin taaqat ke panje me…jahan waalon isey kehte hain – (kishore)

    1966 Film – do dilon ki dastaan
    1. Har jagah aapke kadmo ke nishaan milte hain – (rafi)

    1969 Film – sambandh
    1. Mai aankhon me Milan ki ek tadpan leke aayi – (asha)
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    UNRELEASED FILMS
    Ek gunaah aur sahi
    1. Khuda jannat se bhej ke pachhta raha hoga – rafi
    2. Teri duniya me jeena chaahta hoon – rafi

    Jawaani ki raat
    1. Kisi se haal e dil apna yahaan kahiye – rafi
    2. Aaj ki raat rangeli hai – vani jairam
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    NON – FILM SONGS
    1. Papi nahi gaa tu geet preet ke – (c.h.atma)
    2. Aag lagi man me more – (kamal roy, real name habib wali mohammad)
    3. Diya to jala sab raat re baalam – (manmohan Krishna)
    4. Bujhe diye hua andhera – (manmohan Krishna)
    5. Chalti chkki dekh ke diya kabira roy – (o.p.nayyar)
    6. Kabira rassi paanv me – (o.p.nayyar)
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — October 13, 2009 @ 11:07 am | Reply

  1774. hi all…thnx to one of good friend n music lover, i got 5 of the above stated songs today…now the no. of OPN songs i need has reduced to 19 (as under)… i’ll be obliged if somebody kindly helps me n mails these songs to…

    shishirkksharma@gmail.com / shishirkksharma@rediffmail.com

    thnx…

    1952 Film – Chham chhama chham
    1. Achchha wo tum the haaye zaalim tum they – (asha)
    2. Pyaar bhare dil hain nadiya kinaare – (asha, kishore)

    1955 Film – sabse bada rupaiya
    1. Aye dil na ro leke ansoo ke haar – (asha)

    1956 Film – dhake ki malmal
    1. Preetam jubb aan milenge – (asha)

    1956 Film – mr.lambu
    1. Aaj jo hum tum mil gaye – (geeta)

    1956 Film – shrimati 420
    1. Tum to hamre man me bhagwaan ban ke – (shamshad)

    1957 Film – Ustaad
    1. Ye sama phir kahaan – (asha)
    2. Mile jo raah me chhede…bedardi, be-imaan, natkhat – (asha, sudha)

    1966 Film – do dilon ki dastaan
    1. Har jagah aapke kadmo ke nishaan milte hain – (rafi)

    1969 Film – sambandh
    1. Mai aankhon me Milan ki ek tadpan leke aayi – (asha)

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    UNRELEASED FILMS

    Ek gunaah aur sahi
    1. Khuda jannat se bhej ke pachhta raha hoga – rafi
    2. Teri duniya me jeena chaahta hoon – rafi

    Jawaani ki raat
    1. Kisi se haal e dil apna yahaan kahiye – rafi
    2. Aaj ki raat rangeli hai – vani jairam
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    NON – FILM SONGS
    1. Aag lagi man me more – (kamal roy, real name habib wali mohammad)
    2. Diya to jala sab raat re baalam – (manmohan Krishna)
    3. Bujhe diye hua andhera – (manmohan Krishna)
    4. Chalti chkki dekh ke diya kabira roy – (o.p.nayyar)
    5. Kabira rassi paanv me – (o.p.nayyar)
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — October 13, 2009 @ 11:42 pm | Reply

  1775. However bad comments you all write about LATA and Asha, Still I love both of them. I rate all the singers only after Lata and Asha.

    Comment by Meenu — October 15, 2009 @ 12:38 am | Reply

  1776. After a long time, here I come. yes 1736, one cannot criticise any yesteryear singers. They had class. Their diction and sweet expression of words should be an Oscar of a primer to modern singers. All the new singers compete with the gadgets , synthesizer and electronics. In this process, they have a nasal boli , which is liked by the Oscar committee. For an Indian , who has doobafied in Indianess, this shrill and frills of the modern singers gets out of memory as soon as the film gets over. You leave the theatre only to sing ” Gate Rahe mera dil” Then you can change the lyrics to ” Oh!! Mera Hamrahi, thum aur kya ganewale, Bas aab thum na gayo, antara ko nose se maar ke” You take any singer Lataji, Ashaji ( my only grouse against her is she has ignored OPN so much as if he did not exist for her. Itni Vaham … aur Itni Sannata about OPN, is painful deceit and droha of a high order), Manna Dey, Hemant Kuamr, Rafi saab, Mahendra Kapoor, Chitalkar , Shamshad Begum are all of very high class. There are a lot of personal problems with all , but one cannot ignore their talent, which is the sands of time will be very , very , very difficult to fill.

    Comment by gajanan — October 15, 2009 @ 10:25 am | Reply

  1777. apologies it is 1776.

    Comment by gajanan — October 15, 2009 @ 10:27 am | Reply

  1778. Rafi and Manna Dey with OPN Music a rare song. Tuhi mera Prem Devata.
    If anybody has posted , please ignore, otherwise enjoy.

    Comment by gajanan — October 15, 2009 @ 10:35 am | Reply

  1779. Here is a write up about Asha disowning OPN.

    http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/capital-closeup/2009/09/23/asha-disowns-op-nayyar/

    Comment by gajanan — October 15, 2009 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  1780. Hello my fellow O.P. Fans,

    Diwali or Deepavali, is here.

    Have lots of Fun, Smile and spread Happiness & Cheer!!
    Do your bit for the environment…..play safe with crackers…..show compassion & Love.

    Wishing all of you A HAPPY DIWALI/DEEPAVALI.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — October 16, 2009 @ 4:55 pm | Reply

    • Thank You Krishna Ji 🙂 Same to you a thousand times over. Gajanan ji its so wonderful to hear from you after so long. As usual brilliant observations. Anand ji..love your comments. Meenu will want to respond to you but some time later. Jatin ji thanks 🙂 Shishir ji how lovely to see you here. Glad that at least some part of your list is getting accomplished.

      Its the time of the year when festivities overwhelm us totally with their inherent significance and apparent gaiety. Here is wishing all Opiums to be blessed by Mother Lakshmi with her benevolence and bounties that may kindle our hearts and souls with love and compassion, fill our lives with the joy of abundance in every aspect material and spiritual.

      I am posting the Aarti here with the sincere hope that it may provide succour to all those who so desire.

      SHUBH DEEPAVALI

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 16, 2009 @ 5:27 pm | Reply

  1781. Dear Opiums,

    Wishing all of you a “VERY VERY HAPPY COLOURFUL DIWALI”

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 17, 2009 @ 9:49 am | Reply

  1782. Dear Opiums,

    Today afternoon I saw TOTAL RECALL – S.D.Burman on Times Now.

    A Fact that many people perhaps may not know, I would like to share..

    We all are well aware that the famous TRIO of DILIP KUMAR – RAJ KAPOOR – DEV ANAND had something very special about themselves.

    DILIP KUMAR suited KING RAFI
    RAJ KAPOOR suited MUKESH
    DEV ANAND suited KISHORE KUMAR

    But Dada Burman was the only music director to experiment in a diffrent style..

    DILIP KUMAR was perhaps only once used for KISHORE KUMAR in SAGINA 1974
    RAJ KAPOOR was perhaps only once used for KISHORE KUMAR in PYAR 1950
    DEV ANAND was used for first time with MUKESH in VIDYA 1948

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 17, 2009 @ 9:58 pm | Reply

  1783. where and how i can download the song “woh hans ke mile humko by asha bhonsle music by OP nayyar

    Comment by santokh singh — October 23, 2009 @ 4:23 pm | Reply

  1784. Dear Santokh Singh ji,

    Please download this melodious OPN song –

    http://www.apunkabollywood.net/browser/category/view/1236/baharen-phir-bhi-aayengi-(1966)

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 24, 2009 @ 6:26 pm | Reply

  1785. Dear Anand Berry ji,

    Thanks for providing us an opportunity to download Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi songs. The songs were super melodies. The solo by Asha “Wo Hanske Miley Humse, Hum Pyar Samaj” … is very touching. As a matter of fact, Asha ji told the radio listeners on Radio Vividh Bharati that she was so much moved by this song that she really cried when Nayyar Saheb conducted rehearsals before the recording of this song. It looks like the lyricist, music director, singer, and the orchestra truly felt the pain reflected in the song. Both Asha and OP ji are mortals but their partnership produced musical compositions that would defy the passage of time.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — November 30, 2009 @ 10:36 am | Reply

  1786. Hi fans here is a filmography of the great O P Nayyar:

    Aasmaan 1952
    Is bewafa jahan men – C H Atma ( Nayyar first song)
    Raat suhani hanste tare – C H Atma
    Kachhu samajh nehin aaye – C H Atma
    Dekho jadubhari more nain – Geeta Dutt
    Are kya hoon main – Geeta Dutt
    Dil hai diwana – Geeta Dutt
    Pon pon baje baja dholak – Geeta Dutt
    Mori nindiya churaye gayo – Rajkumari

    Chham chhama chham 1952
    Aa pardesi balma more angna – Asha Bhosle
    Accha woh tum the zalim – Asha Bhosle
    Ye zindagi hai jeene ke liye – Asha Bhosle & Kishore Kumar
    Tumhari duniya se hamari duniya – Asha Bhosle & Kishore Kumar
    Tumse nehin kam – Asha Bhosle & Kishore Kumar
    Pyar bhare dil hain mile – Asha Bhosle & Kishore Kumar
    Naina mila zara chupke se – Asha Bhosle & Kishore Kumar
    Woh cheez hai kya jiske aage – Asha Bhosle & Kishore Kumar
    Yeh duniya hai bazaar babu – Asha Bhosle & Kishore Kumar
    Kismat ke khel dekho – Asha Bhosle & Jagmohan
    Taraste hai tadapte hain – Shamshad Begum & Kishore Kumar

    Baaz 1953
    Ghata men chhup ke bhi – Mohd Rafi
    Mujhe dekho hasrat ki tasweer – Talat Mehmood
    Zara saamne aa zara ankh mila – Geeta Dutt
    Taren chandni afsane – Geeta Dutt
    Majhi albele chalo re haule – Geeta Dutt
    Ae dil diwane ang laga le – Geeta Dutt
    Ae watan ke naujawan – Geeta Dutt
    Jago jago savera hua – Geeta Dutt

    Aar Paar 1954
    Babuji dheere chalna – Geeta Dutt
    Hoon abhi main jawan – Geeta Dutt
    Yeh lo main hari piya – Geeta Dutt
    Ja ja ja bewafa – Geeta Dutt
    Kabhi aar kabhi paar – Shamshad Begum
    Sun sun sun zalima – Geeta Dutt & Mohd Rafi
    mohabbat karlo ji bharlo – Geeta Dutt & Mohd Rafi
    Are na na tauba tauba – Geeta Dutt & Mohd Rafi

    Comment by Radjesh — December 5, 2009 @ 11:57 am | Reply

    • Radjeshji,

      Being born in late 1940(s), I cannot recollect anything about the songs of the two movies:

      Aasmaan 1952

      Chham chhama chham 1952

      I hope some of our veteran friends who have these film songs in their collection will come forward to share their views and comments.

      Although, Aar Paar songs came out in 1954, those are being played again and again today, 55 years later. O.P.ji is gone but his musical creations will last in one form or the other forever.

      Comment by Krishna Baru — December 6, 2009 @ 10:33 pm | Reply

  1787. Dear Krishna Baru ji,

    First of all I would like to wish DILIP KUMAR saheb a very very Happy Birthday on behalf of all Sachinitians. He turned 87 yesterday and we all wish him many many more years of cheerful and healthy life.

    Secondly, please download and enjoy two melodious songs composed by Sangeet Samrat O.P.Nayyar sung by C.H.Atma for ‘Aasman’ released in 1952.

    http://smashits.com/music/oldies/songs/7610/aasman.html

    Comment by Anand Berry — December 12, 2009 @ 6:59 pm | Reply

  1788. It is impossible to fill the void in the Hindi Film Music world after the death of most renounced music composer Sh. O P Nayyar.
    Today’s composers better say tune lifters are dwarfs who absolutely lack creativity.Nayyar Sahib was Inimitable and his usage of shayari before the mukhda was truly captivating.His all compositions are straight from dil se.
    May his soul rest in Peace.

    Comment by Surjit Singh Hira — December 13, 2009 @ 1:04 pm | Reply

  1789. Dear Anand Berry ji,

    Thanks to you I have heard two great songs of the movie “Aasman”. As anticipated the songs are of slower pace reflecting the trends prevalent at that time.

    Does any one remember which was the first song rendered by Rafi saheb for O.P.ji?

    I just spoke with our friend, C U M Rao ji. He was in Dubai recently. I have requested him to come back to Sachiniti and share his thoughts.

    As I was absent from this blog for a considerable period of time, I have to go back and catch up on the subject matter of discussions for the past few months. I hope that fans of O.P. aka Opiums will resume frequenting this blog and generate some interesting discussions as we race to close the calendar year of 2009.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 20, 2009 @ 10:19 am | Reply

  1790. Dear Surjit Singh ji,

    You better said about today’s music composers. I also feel that with the exception of A.R.Rehman or Jatin Lalit (whom OPN also praised) none of the current lot has any or even 5% talent of OPN.

    Are the heritage music listeners of our lot blind or deaf ? Can’t we see and feel the diffrence of how much effort they put in their music as compared to OPN, Naushad ji, S-J, K-A, L-P, SDB, or even RDB !

    Their only shortcut way for getting quick money is to use cheap class artificial Synthesizers and drum beats. It is a period we listened some melodious Piano Accordian, Harmonium, Mouthorgan, Harmonica’s of M.Hohner Germany, or desi Shehnayi, Mandolin, Jal Tarang, Spanish Guitars etc etc.

    Comment by Anand Berry — December 20, 2009 @ 9:05 pm | Reply

  1791. #1790
    dear krishna baru ji…in OPN’s first film ‘aasmaan’ (1952) there was only one male singer c.h.atma (3 solo’s)…in OPN’s second film ‘chham chhama chham'(1952) there were two male singers kishore kumar (7 duets) n jagmohan (1 duet)…his third film ‘baaz’ (1953) was the one for which not only rafi but talat mehmood also sang his first OPN song…they both had one solo each in this film…

    RAFI – ghata me chhup ke bhi bijli jhalak dikhla hi jaati hai, jo dil ki baat hoti hai nazar tak aa hi jaati hai (a qawwali style song)

    TALAT – mujhe dekho hasrat ki tasveer hoon mai, jo ban ban ke bigdi wo taqdeer hoon mai

    coincidentally ‘baaz’ was majrooh sultanpuri’s first film with OPN too as in ‘aasmaan’ it was prem dhawan n in ‘chham chhama chham’, p.l.santoshi…

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — December 21, 2009 @ 2:16 pm | Reply

  1792. To all friends who celebrate Christmas, I would like to wish them and their families

    A MERRY CHRISTMAS.

    Have a safe and an enjoyable holiday.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — December 24, 2009 @ 6:04 pm | Reply

    • Merry Christmas to all OPIUMs and readers. May the spirit of Jesus , his love, compassion and kindness be imbued in all of humanity in the coming year.

      Regards to all
      Kaveetaa

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — December 25, 2009 @ 12:45 pm | Reply

  1793. o.p. comes alive
    thane municipal corp.
    installs his mural
    to comemorate his
    last days stay in thane city
    at ghantali garden
    on 16 january 2010

    Comment by sadashiv kulkarni — December 25, 2009 @ 6:30 pm | Reply

    • This is GREAT news Sadashiv ji. Cannot thank you enough for bringing it to the notice of Sachiniti. His birthday was the most appropriate day for such an event. Wonderful!! Only brings us once more to the realisation that finally what matters and lives on is ones work, long after and for aeons after the dissolution of the manifest. Op jis music and the resultant everlastingness of his name a true example of talent above all else.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — December 26, 2009 @ 11:55 am | Reply

  1794. To

    All fans of O.P. Nayyar and their families

    WISHING YOU ROBUST HEALTH…
    so you may enjoy each day in comfort.

    Wishing you the Beauty of Nature…
    that you may enjoy the work of God.

    Wishing you the wisdom to choose priorities…
    for things that really matter in life.

    Wishing you Generosity so you may share…
    all good things that come to you.

    Wishing you Happiness and Joy,

    Love of friends and family,
    And Peace within your heart.

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! 2010

    Comment by Krishna Baru — January 1, 2010 @ 4:33 am | Reply

  1795. Dear Opiums,

    New Year’s Day is every man’s birthday.

    I Wish in 2010
    God gives You…
    12 Month of Happiness,
    52 Weeks of Fun,
    365 Days Success,
    8760 Hours Good Health,
    52600 Minutes Good Luck,
    3153600 Seconds of Joy…and that’s all!

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 1, 2010 @ 11:41 pm | Reply

  1796. Well, After a long time indeed.
    I sincerely wish all OPN’s fans a very happy, prosperous, contended, year 2010 ahead.
    Krishna garu, I liked the phrase “Wisdom to chose priorities”. A very important thing in life. I often tend to see small and transient irritants with a magnifying glass.
    Thanks to Sadashiv Kulkarni for the wonderful news and Kaveethaji’s apt comments on that.
    Well said abt today’s music, Surjitji and shishirji. I cant agree with you more. I am afraid of saying the same loudly amid the accolades and Oscars for th present day composers.
    At this point it is apt to relate my small experience during my holiday outing for abt 10 days in Dubai. Nothing great but interesting.
    We visited “Asha’s” restaurant. We all know that OP was always praising Asha’s culinary expertise. That is reflected in Asha’s, her own restaurant. A good amnt of musical ambience. Interesting thing was the photo gallery at the entrance lobby. There was just one photo with any MD. Frankly, I was surprised to see that the MD is C.Ramchandra. I do not remember much long association between Asha and CR, though there are Navrang and some more.
    I was happy to see 2 photos of all the 4 sisters at different ages. Then there were many concert and award photos.
    However, In the background, Asha’s songs were playing and I heard some RDBs and yeh reshmi, and koyee kehde kehde. Quite a few Lata’s too. none of Geetha or any other during the time we were there.
    We had a more pleasing experiencing in another Indian restaurant in Sheraton. There was an orchestra and a male and a female singers. They wanted suggestions for songs to be sung. The occupants were mostly youg to middle aged. I was one of the few old.
    I immediately sent a request for Babuji dhire Chalna(Which in my personal opinion was a complete definition OP-Geetha-Majrooh combination). The lady simply said that she cant sing any Geetha or shamshad or Suraiya. Then I requested for “Jalthe hai Jiske liye” and “Jaaye tho jaaye kahan”. There was resounding applause for the first one. After 2 songs of modern era, which received only lukewarm response from the audience, The male singer called me again and asked me to suggest some more old songs. From a list I gave, he sang, “Maine chand aur sitaronki tamanna” of chndrakanta, Pukartha chala hun, and lastly “Bahuth Shukriya badi meherbani”. The last one received overwhelming response, though the lady did not do justice to Asha’s part. But the male singer was very talented particularly in soft slow songs. At the end he said he enjoyed the evening more than his audience. Out of the 7 or 8 songs they sang 5 were suggested by me. It was very good musical dinner for me.

    Comment by curao — January 3, 2010 @ 7:14 pm | Reply

    • A Bright, Happy, fulfilling New Year and decade to all! May we bring out the best in us and others through our thoughts, words and actions.
      As usual it is such a pleasure reading through all the comments.
      Anand ji your maths deserves accolades.
      Krishna jis deep words of wisdom are so comforting.

      Cu Rao ji…have missed you a lot. Glad to hear that life is presenting memorable moments to you. May it always be so. Your depiction of the evenings at Dubai were so graphic that I almost felt present there. I can imagine what a ‘sama’ the songs must have created. They are unfailing in conjuring up a magic that elevates, moods and sends us into thrills of a sublime nature. Old is gold..unmistakable so.

      Regards
      Kaveetaa

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 4, 2010 @ 12:33 pm | Reply

  1797. The search for several film/nonfilm songs is incomplete because even the massive collections like Surjit Singhs one and hamara forum donot have all the songs that music lovers seek.N L Puris geet and Asha Bhonsle’s QAIDI(1957) :Kuchh to aisi baat kar balam”come to mind.
    Sri Lanka Broadcasting Corporation can be heard for an hour at the best on 25 m SW on radio and that too when it is not submerged by other radio stations-I receive it only in the mornings and the old numbers(not played by any other radio station) gladden me.I am taken back to the 1950s when Radio Ceylon was ruling the airwaves and had all the records that one could desire.Therefore I believe that SLBC has every song that features in our search;the problem is how to access their repository.Can the stalwarts of this forum find a way to let SLBC share a few songs from their archives?
    Would somebody please let me know if SLBC Hindi service has the programming of old times or is it a limited one,(feeble reception at least in Pune);can this service be heard online or radio to get a clearer reception?
    Can anbody indicate where I can access the above songs that I am pining for ?

    Comment by pramod acharya — January 9, 2010 @ 5:44 pm | Reply

  1798. hi all…i’m in search of following 18 OPN songs…rest of all i have in my collection…i’ll be obliged if somebody kindly helps…pl send these songs to-

    shishirkksharma@gmail.com / shishirkksharma@rediffmail.com

    thanks…

    1952 Film – Chham chhama chham
    1. Achchha wo tum the haaye zaalim tum they – (asha)
    2. Pyaar bhare dil hain nadiya kinaare – (asha, kishore)

    1955 Film – sabse bada rupaiya
    1. Aye dil na ro leke ansoo ke haar – (asha)

    1956 Film – dhake ki malmal
    1. Preetam jab aan milenge – (asha)

    1956 Film – shrimati 420
    1. Tum to hamre man me bhagwaan ban ke – (shamshad)

    1957 Film – Ustaad
    1. Ye sama phir kahaan – (asha)
    2. Mile jo raah me chhede…bedardi, be-imaan, natkhat – (asha, sudha)

    1966 Film – do dilon ki dastaan
    1. Har jagah aapke kadmo ke nishaan milte hain – (rafi)

    1969 Film – sambandh
    1. Mai aankhon me Milan ki ek tadpan leke aayi – (asha)
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
    UNRELEASED FILMS

    Ek gunaah aur sahi
    1. Khuda jannat se bhej ke pachhta raha hoga – rafi
    2. Teri duniya me jeena chaahta hoon – rafi

    Jawaani ki raat
    1. Kisi se haal e dil apna yahaan kahiye – rafi
    2. Aaj ki raat rangeeli hai – vani jairam
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    NON – FILM SONGS
    1. Aag lagi man me more – (kamal roy, real name habib wali mohammad)
    2. Diya to jala sab raat re baalam – (manmohan Krishna)
    3. Bujhe diye hua andhera – (manmohan Krishna)
    4. Chalti chakki dekh ke diya kabira roy – (o.p.nayyar)
    5. Kabira rassi paanv me – (o.p.nayyar)
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 9, 2010 @ 11:41 pm | Reply

  1799. kavitaji kindly check what may be the problem as my last post has again disappeared…lets see it it reappears with this one as it did a few times in past…

    …to…leke prabhu ka naam…ye kiya button….CLICK!

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 10, 2010 @ 8:32 am | Reply

  1800. Well nothing new in this post. A few feelings of mine to share with others.
    Kaveethaji, Old is truly, eternally Gold.
    Some time back, I happened to see “Slumdog”. The song that most impressed me was ” Darshan do ghan shyam”, though i heard it 100s of times before and it was only a small bit. Compared to that none other was even noteworthy. I have to qualify this statement by saying that it is purely my own opinion, to preempt others from taking objection. In this connection I like to mention an opinion expressed by a columnist in “New Yorker”. A friend of his asked him if he ever read “Da Vinci code ” or such other modern work. This columnist replied ” Where is the time? I am yet to read ” P.G.Wodehouse’s “Blandings Castle” for the 15th time!! I often mention this, because his is a kindred spirit to mine, to my frieneds and sons, whenever they fault me for not even trying to expose myself to modern music and literature. There is also perhaps an immeasurable antique value, involving nostalgia of those times, our tastes, and feelings at our childish/young ages.

    Comment by curao — January 10, 2010 @ 9:24 am | Reply

  1801. I found something unknown to me before in the net. Torrents!! Well, May be most others already know abt this thro’ which you can download whole movies, old and new. Even 3 idiots also is available. Actually, recent movies are more easily downloadable. Though there is some possibility of malware, you can avoid by taking a few simple precautions. It is a whole new world to me. I am writing this to ask some help from any one who is already familiar with this and who can spare a few min. for me. I shall be grateful if any one contacts me at <cumrao@yahoo.com"

    Comment by curao — January 10, 2010 @ 9:36 am | Reply

  1802. respected curaoji…pl take the following steps to get the desired movies…

    1. write ‘bittorrent free download’ on google search.
    2. download and install the ‘bittorrent’in ur PC.
    3. go to google again.
    4. write the name of the desired movie followed by ‘free torrent download’.
    5. click on the downloaded torrent of the movie.

    bittorrent will automatically start downloading the movie. u need not worry, the bittorrent is free of viruses.

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — January 10, 2010 @ 11:50 am | Reply

  1803. Dear Opiums : Worth remembering that today is OP Nayyar’s birthday. He would have been 84 if he were still with us.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 16, 2010 @ 5:23 pm | Reply

    • Thank You Purinder ji . I was waiting to see who would arrive 🙂

      Am posting a rare video where our dear OP ji is seen and heard presenting sa re ga ma at the Taj mahal. We have been listening to his songs but today I guess we should meet him via this video.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 16, 2010 @ 5:47 pm | Reply

  1804. Kaveetaa ji , that was a quick response. There are not too many birthdays that I remembers, but today is a special day for all of us who have the good fortune of loving OPN’s creations.

    Also good to see that this wonderful platform for Opiums continues to prosper thanks to his ardent admirers and of course, you Kaveetaa ji.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 16, 2010 @ 6:47 pm | Reply

  1805. Thank you Shishirji,
    I really appreciate your prompt response. I followed your suggestions and got some old favorites of mine like Guns of Navrone, Roman holiday, To kill a mocking bird, Casablanca, Citizen Kane and failed in some others. I encountered 3 types of problems. I installed Btjunkie as torrent search toolbar, and m torrent(they call it (micro torrent) in addition to bit torrent as the torrent clients. Many people in the net said that these were the best of their class.
    1. The speed of download. I am in BSNL 500 home C+ pack with a speed of 256 kbps upto 2mbps. Generally it gives more than 256 kbps, I followed some netizen’s suggestions to change the settings for getting higher speed. Some improvement. But not great.
    2. I found the speed also depends the No. of seeds. Alas! old films do not have many seeds.
    Perhaps there is nothing we can do abt these problems, except subscribing to higher speed which at 1350/- or so is too expensive for me.
    3. But a problem which we can solve with a bit more knowledge is that some films do not play, though they are in AVI with xvid codec. Some with wmv also do not play. so, now my efforts are focussed on finding how to know before dnlding, whether they will play or not and also for a converter to a playable format. Some sort universal converter. I normally use “Super”, whcih can do most of the jobs otherwise, except this one. I heartily welcome any suggestions.

    Comment by curao — January 17, 2010 @ 7:21 am | Reply

  1806. Dear CURAO ji,

    Firstly, there is no need to download toolbaar from Btjunkie.Its waiste of time and effort!:)
    Secondly, when u needed the best quality, the highest seeds and also a great speed for completing the movie, u should have searched for the abv mentioned movies at this link:- http://www.torrentz.com !8)
    As far as the issue of no internet virus coming in is concerned from torrents, my son has been using torrents for the past 3-4years and he always accuses of the viruses which come from torrent files. The best way to avoid these torrents is to go to a more trusted site!
    I forgot to mention, that the abv link provided, gives all the torrents available on the internet and is like the “UNIVERSAL” torrent site for movies, music, games etc. So after u search it out on torrentz.com,the next page takes u to the host sites providing download facilities for it and the same page also gives comments(sometimes) abt the quality and speed abt the torrent! To escape getting viruses on ur PC, go for either piratebay.org or monova.com as mininova.com has been shut down earlier last year(2009).
    Hope u get the best seeds and quality available on the internet and don’t forget to seed it after u download! 😀
    Cheers !! 😉

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 17, 2010 @ 11:37 am | Reply

  1807. Dear Opiums, it’s 3 years since we lost OP Nayyar from our midst. It is time for remembrance and thanksgiving.
    As I write this, I am listening to Radio Sri Lanka where they have devoted the last 1 hour playing OPN’s songs. While some of the songs played were his lesser known songs( movies like Shrimati 420 , Musafirkhana & Dhake ki malmal), each one was a gem- a reminder of the genius of OP Nayyar.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 28, 2010 @ 8:12 am | Reply

  1808. Wow, Shrimati 420 and Musafirkhana. The very names cause goose pimples to me. Yahan hum vahan tum, Mai dhundthi hun, Thodasa dil lagake, Achchaji maaf karlo, Palti are palti, Agar babu, dil de dala nazrana. My only regret is I do not have all the songs of Shrimati. I loved those movies and every song of them.

    Comment by curao — February 5, 2010 @ 7:28 pm | Reply

  1809. Thank you anand Berry ji,
    for your detailed reply. I am following some of your suggestions already and will follow others.
    I also found that comments are important. I discovered that some names like Klaxxon, keltz etc, are trust worthy for playability and freedom for viruses. so, far i downloaded nearly 50 movies. No virus porblem from them. But, When I downloaded Nero with key, some intrusions came. I am taking precautions at every stage, and I could clean it before it damaged any, with E-Set antivirus I purchased.
    It is really a problem with old but less popular films. They have very few seeds. Like Eye witness, Topkapi, The Italian job etc.
    BT junky lists from piratebay, torrentz, Isohunt and most of the sites.

    Comment by curao — February 5, 2010 @ 7:45 pm | Reply

    • Curao ji, it is always a good idea to have a credible and trustworthy virus check installed even if you have to pay a few hundreds per year. This way you wont have to bother too much with downloads. Otherwise trojans and others can really harm your comp. I have been through it and it was hell.

      By and large Pirate bay and Mininova are reliable.

      And yes comments and no of seeds are a great sign to know before hand whether or not one should download.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — February 8, 2010 @ 11:45 am | Reply

  1810. All the dear OPiums,
    It is surprising no one has posted the wonderful news of at last having a web site on OP. opnayyar.org. created by Siraj ji.with credits to given to many of you. Let us all contribute in some way to that at least by posting laudatory comments some of OP’s songs and other titbits. Pl. post things there also.

    Comment by curao — February 5, 2010 @ 7:59 pm | Reply

  1811. Hello dear Opiums… One always chuckles a little at this coining of the phrase OPIUMS which is peculiar to Sachiniti. I have been mostly travelling and missed a lot many comments. Just happened to read this article. It isnt new but even then makes a few points which have already been made here but it is surprising to see how many fans in the universe seem to think alike.Do read this.

    http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/capital-closeup/2009/09/23/asha-disowns-op-nayyar/

    Comment by Jatin Lall — February 5, 2010 @ 9:42 pm | Reply

  1812. respected curao saheb…pl mail me the list of shrimati 420 n musafirkhana songs which u need…my email i.d’s are…

    shishirkksharma@rediffmail.com

    shishirkksharma@gmail.com

    i won’t be able to send u the following song of smt.420 as i’m also searcing for the same…

    Tum to hamre man me bhagwaan ban ke – (shamshad)

    Comment by shishir krishna sharma — February 5, 2010 @ 10:56 pm | Reply

    • Trust Shishir ji to always be forthcoming with his sharing. Kudos to you.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — February 8, 2010 @ 11:42 am | Reply

  1813. Thank you Rao garu for the wonderfull news about OPji’s website.

    Thank you, G N Murty, Rajahnmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — February 7, 2010 @ 3:40 pm | Reply

  1814. Can somebody post a link for the song “Chaman ke phool bhi tumhein ghulab kehte hain” by Rafi/Lata
    Thx

    Comment by Madhuri — February 11, 2010 @ 4:50 am | Reply

  1815. For you Madhuri

    Chaman ke phoolUploaded by videoguy007. – Classic TV and last night’s shows, online.

    Comment by Krishnan — February 11, 2010 @ 9:30 am | Reply

  1816. Oh the player didint come. You can listen to it here

    Comment by Krishnan — February 11, 2010 @ 9:34 am | Reply

    • Krishnanji,
      Thanks so much for the link. A lovely song.
      Looks like this site has a lot of not only active fans,
      but knowledgeable ones too.
      Thanks!

      Comment by Madhuri — February 14, 2010 @ 1:34 am | Reply

  1817. hello friends,
    I am a big time collector of Hindi film music and possess a huge collection on LP/Ep and 78rpm discs. I can give you very high quality audio cds of the rare o.P. Nayyar’s discs like :

    CID909,THE KILLERS, NASIHAT, KALPANA, HUMSAYA, ETC. ETC…
    I am sure I can get you all the published material. Anyone interested is welcome.
    Thanks

    Comment by analoguemusic — February 16, 2010 @ 12:12 pm | Reply

  1818. do you have all songs of Ustaad, Kabhi andhera kabhi ujala, Qaidi, and shrimati 420?

    Comment by curao — February 21, 2010 @ 12:46 pm | Reply

  1819. Am Copy pasting the comment by Gajanan ji from the All time Most read post to this one. He has shared some dlight ful links with us.

    Quote:
    Please see this collection. You all may have this , but just encore thru this and enjoy.

    OP. Nayyar & SH. Bihari Combo
    http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/album/HC000496.html
    Other songs
    Vol 1
    http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/HC000497.html
    Vol 2
    http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/HC000498.html
    Hits Vol 1
    http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/HC000494.html
    Hits Vol 2
    http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/HC000495.html
    OP Nayyar albums
    http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/music/OP._Nayyar.html

    Unquote

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — February 23, 2010 @ 1:43 pm | Reply

    • Thanks for this treasure-house of information. Nayyar’s music is pernnial.

      Comment by Jay Subramanyam — June 23, 2010 @ 1:44 pm | Reply

  1820. Dear Opiums,

    Dil ko dhadkan se pehle,
    Dost ko dosti se pehle,
    Pyar ko mohabbat se pehle,
    Khushi ko gum se pehle,
    Aur Appko sab se pehle
    Rang udaye Pichkari,
    Rang se rang jaye duniya sari,
    Holi ke rang aapke jeevan ko rang de,
    Ye shubhakamana hai hamari.

    WISHING ALL OF YOU A VERY VERY HAPPY COLORFUL HOLI

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 1, 2010 @ 10:14 pm | Reply

  1821. “HUM BHI AGAR BACHCHE HOTE,
    NAAM HAMARA HOTA DABLU BABLU,
    KHANE KO MILTE LADDU,
    AUR DUNIYA KEHTI
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ……

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY To KAVEETAA Ji

    on behalf of all Opiums,Rafians & Sachinitians.

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 4, 2010 @ 3:27 am | Reply

  1822. ‘tum jeeyo hazaaron saal saal ke din ho Pachaas hazaar..”

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you Kaveetaaji

    Comment by Krishnan — April 4, 2010 @ 7:29 am | Reply

  1823. Anand ji ..THANK YOU and SORRYYYYY for the late response…I wont offer an excuse since none would be valid enough. I wonder how you got to know though:) Facebook?? Wow..thats really sweet of you and of course dear Krishnanji.. Thank you so much.. again.

    Today , inexplicably I got inot the mood for listening to OPNs melodies.. So apart from my videopod went on to You tube and look what I found!! A simply sensational rendition of one of Ops best ” Hai Duniya usiki”.. The singer was totally unknown to me and I was pleasantly surprised at his ease and prowess.

    And that is not all friends! This video is a recording of a programme where our OPN was present as well!! I was sooo happy to discover it.

    For OPIUMS and SACHINITIANS viewing and hearing pleasure.. here goes

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 12, 2010 @ 9:22 pm | Reply

  1824. OP is the best! His compositions were so simple, but yet so melodious. These haunting melodies will live forever. OP, RD and of course Shankar-Jaikishen were the music directors who have given us so many wonderful tunes.

    Comment by by0 — April 23, 2010 @ 8:52 am | Reply

  1825. To all the die-hard fans of OPjee, I would like to inform all that there is a facebook page dedicated to the BOSS. Every day there are new songs of his posted by numerous fans. If you are on facebook, do go to :
    http://www.facebook.com/O.P.Nayyar
    and click on ‘Like’ to become a fan. I always enjoy the very rich discussion on this Sachiniti site on BOSS and his music and I am sure you will all enjoy being in the fb site too…Also the fans on that page will benefit tremendously from the profound knowledge of senior members from this site..

    Comment by Naveen — June 26, 2010 @ 9:13 am | Reply

  1826. Dear Opiums,

    There are hundreds of Antique Songs that did not got included in Memorable Classics.
    Here I feel shocked to see why this melodious song of KING RAFI got off from PAKEEZAH

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 1, 2010 @ 9:45 pm | Reply

    • Anand ji..the reason may have been because Pakeezah’s music is by Ghulam Mohammed and not O P Ji..I am not clear which comment you are referring to.
      BTW.. I have not previously heard it nor is it included in the film. How did you find it? But I guess anything is possible with you 🙂

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — August 2, 2010 @ 10:37 pm | Reply

  1827. Mohd Rafi played a huge role in OP Nayyar’s success. Today they produced the finest in indian music. When I listen to the songs of Tumsa Naheen Dekha, Kasmir Ki Kali, Mere Saam, Ek Musafir Eik Haseena, and many others I wonder what a talent God gave these two men.

    Comment by asif — August 2, 2010 @ 10:18 pm | Reply

  1828. Shammi , Rafi & OPN.
    Great combination. Shammi Kapoor too said, ”Nayyar was one of the finest music directors in Indian cinema and gave immense style to his compositions.” Nayyar had composed music for films ‘Tumsa Nahi Dekha’ and ‘Kashmir Ki Kali’ in which Kapoor had acted. China town is a film where both Ravi and OPN have been given credits. Anybody to verify this? Please list if any other Shammi Kapoor songs are by OPN.

    I do not know if this site by Siraj Khan has been posted here, but a repeat is a good viewing for all OPIUMS.

    http://www.opnayyar.org/

    Comment by gajanan — August 13, 2010 @ 5:20 am | Reply

  1829. One query is about Chinatown. Many have listed Ravi along with OPN. Any one to verify this. Siraj Khan a a true OPN fan has created a web site for OPN . Very good one , please go thru it. If already posted no problem, but a repeat value is never bad.

    http://www.opnayyar.org/

    Many have written that OPN wasted his music on B grade actors. Well, you can say that OPN and Rafi made them heroes. Remember Rafi singing for Premnath , Mohabbat Zinda Rehti hai. in R-Sohrab ( This is just an example Music may be not from OPN). I heard a 16 yr old boy singing this song in a village in UP in a function recently. So many yrs have passed.

    Rafi and OPN made Biswajit, Joy Mukerji into heroes, rather than the other way around.

    The one great writer who comes to mind in analogy is George Bernard Shaw . Remember, Eliza Doolittle, a Cockney flower girl who takes speech lessons from Professor Henry Higgins, a phoneticist, so she can pass as a lady. This was egalatarianism taken to very high level by Shaw in class conscious England. In a similar way , OPN and Rafi composed and sang their best irrespective of who the hero was. This must be lauded. It is very easy to take on a A grade student and make him do good work. But to make a B grade student into an A grade student takes great effort and time and which no great school or great artist
    would do. OPN and Rafi did this by singing and composing for B grade artists. This is truly a achievement extraordinary. The artists were not upto the mark, so, let us do our bit by playback and music and elevate their status. Whenever I type ” Hum dum mere — Mere Sanam” on Utube I get Biswajit moving his lips to Rafi’s legendary singing tuned in by OPN. Truly a My Fair Composer and singer.

    Comment by gajanan — August 13, 2010 @ 6:17 am | Reply

  1830. I posted one more , but not posted. Why?

    Comment by gajanan — August 13, 2010 @ 6:42 am | Reply

  1831. Here is the post.

    The egalatarianism of OPN and Rafi

    OPN and Rafi combined to make Bijawajit , Joy Mukeji into heroes. Many say that they were B grade heroes. Now let us digress a little to GB Shaw and his My Fair lady, Eliza Doolittle, a Cockney flower girl who takes speech lessons from professor Henry Higgins, a phoneticist, so she can pass as a lady.
    Shaw wrote this in a class conscious England.

    Rafi has sung for Pradeep Kumar and Bharat Bhushan some great songs ( with other MDs). Truly a singer making a hero. This is egalatarianism

    OPN and Rafi broke barriers. By giving us such excellent songs for Biswajit and Joy Mukerji, they became heroes for film goers. You can make an A grade student do good work , but to make a B grade student into a A grade student takes a lot effort and time. OPN and Rafi by playback and music did exactly a Shaw like exercise, but from behind the scenes. Whenever I type ” Hum Dum Mere – Mere Sanam” in utube, I get Biswajit singing the song , with the legendary Rafi and OPNs voice and music. My Fair composer and singer. .

    Comment by gajanan — August 13, 2010 @ 6:55 am | Reply

  1832. Dear Gajanan Ji, #1829

    Apart from ‘Tumsa Nahin Dekha’ & ‘Kashmir Ki Kali’ we also got Shammi, Rafi & OPN’s
    Great Combination in ‘Basant’,’Hum Sab Chor Hain’& ‘Mujrim’. But a SAD point to be
    noted is that WHY our Shammi Kapoor Ji failed to cast Rafi & OPN Combo in his own acted &
    directed ‘Manoranjan’ & ‘Bundalbaaz’ staring Sanjeev Kumar & Rajesh Khanna respectively.
    I bet these would not have been FLOPS if it got the saving hands of Rafi & OPN.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 16, 2010 @ 8:24 pm | Reply

  1833. Kaveetaa Ji, #1827

    You Know my thirst for Antique Songs never seems to end… Whemever I get reminded of
    my childhood, some songs immediately strike my mind and the session starts to find them…
    And I don’t feel comfortable till I get them.

    I am still searching ‘Aa Gaya Maza, Pyar Ka Nasha’ sung by C.Ramachandra
    & Asha from a Dev Anand – Suchitra Sen starer movie SARHAD.I wish to get Full Song instead
    of 2 ULTRA Tampered Versions on Youtube.

    Comment by Anand Berry — August 16, 2010 @ 10:05 pm | Reply

  1834. Anandji Thanks for the OPN/ Shammi update.
    Shammi K and Rafi, Rafi was the soul and Shammi the body. They were inseparable. Take any song by any composer for Rafi on Shammi , its vibrance all the way. For example Janwar , Dekho Dilbar, the Beatles song ” C’ Mon Let me hold your hand” on Shammi and Rafi’s voice. I have seen many old and young dance to this song in a party in Delhi recently. Rafi was sheer magic for Shammi. Since this is OPN tribute. I will not list other composers here for Rafi/ Shammi combo. There are many.

    Comment by gajanan — August 18, 2010 @ 9:05 am | Reply

  1835. HI EVEREYONE
    I am also one of millions of o p nayyar fans.
    Just few songs from HUM SAB CHORE HAIN..LIKE
    BAEEMAAN BALMA MAAN BHI JA GAI JAAN ZALMA MAAN BHI JA..ETC SO SIMPLE MELODY.MADE OP NAYYAR MY MOST LOVED AND RESPECTED PERSON AFTER LORD KRISHNA.I STILL AM HIS MOST FANATIC FAN IN THE WHOLE WORLD AND HAVE ALMOST EVERY SONG COMPOSED BY HIM I USE TO CUT OUT ALL HIS PICTURES IN EARLY FIFTEES FROM SCREEN AND ANY WHERE ELSE FILMI MAGAZINES.I THINK HE WAS ALSO THE MOST MOST HANDSOME GENT IN THE WHOLE BOLLYWOOD INDUSTRY IN HIS TIME.I COULD NOT SLEEP WHEN I HEARD OF HIS DEATH.MAYGOD ALMIGHTY GIVE HIS SOUL PEACE IN SWARG.AS FOR ASHA BHONSLEY ETC ..I BETTER NOT SAY ANYTHING….BUT I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT HER….

    Comment by mr.R.k.vij — September 9, 2010 @ 9:20 pm | Reply

  1836. Hi my fellow O.P. Fans,

    I have been very passive for almost two years. It appears I have lots of material on this site to catch up. It’s good to see comments being added on this site regularly.

    Recently I spoke to our friends, C U M Rao and Hemant Shah. Both are doing well though they too haven’t been participating on Sachiniti for a while.

    Once in an interview, O.P. revealed that he is a devotee of Krishna. This came to my mind when I read Mr. Vij’s mail which made a reference to Lord Krishna. I fully agree with you, Mr. Vij that O.P. was very handsome among his peers. He lived in style and on his own terms.

    Comment by Krishna Baru — September 25, 2010 @ 8:31 am | Reply

    • Hello Krishna ji.. How nice that you met Rao ji and Hemant ji. They are missed 🙂 Recently in a Sa re Ga ma episode one of the contestants sang ‘ Ek tu hai piya jiss pe dil aa gaya”.. believe me it came like a breath of fresh air ..indescribable. The MD Shekhar ( Vishal Shekhar duo) hadnt heard the song earlier..strange but true. He is rather young. But the song itself was such a hit.. she was asked to repeat it the next day too.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — September 27, 2010 @ 9:08 am | Reply

  1837. Kaveetaa Ji,

    Rightly said, I was also delighted to see RINI CHANDRA of Canada singing 2 OPN songs.
    I am just speachless and don’t find words for her talent.OPN fans must see & judge.

    Aao Huzoor Tumko Sitaron Mein Le Chalun

    Ek Tu Hai Piya Jispe Dil Aa Gaya

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 16, 2010 @ 11:43 pm | Reply

    • Anand ji, I too was quite impressed with her rendition. I think she got ousted quite prematurely. She was a favorite with audiences too.. wonder why? One cannot rule out politics and other factors. However, her lisp did come in the way of a perfectly enunciated song. I do love watching this programme. Immense talent on display. Abhilasha is my favorite as is Kamal.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — October 18, 2010 @ 8:09 am | Reply

  1838. Happy new year to all OP jee fans.

    regards, G N Murty, Rajahmundry, AP

    Comment by G N Murty — January 3, 2011 @ 8:09 pm | Reply

  1839. Happy new year to all!!

    Today is OPNs birthday. Cant seem to thank him enough for having brightened up my days with peace and soulfulness just by listening to his compositions. What a magic is contained therein!! It transports you into a world of nostalgic romanticism in a second. I doubt if this merit is present in any other composer. A song or two here and there but in OPNs case almost all his melodies had this tremendous quality. Unbelievable and oh so wonderful.

    This post yet remains the highest viewed in the blogging world and with the highest number of comments. It proves the power of his talent and the timelessness of his work. never fails to amaze me really. Its not for nothing that our sages impressed upon us to just do our work with sincerity and leave the rest to HIM. In the case of OPN he was truly blessed and was on earth for a specific purpose. That to leave behind a repertoire of unforgettable melodies.

    Here is a video of one of his magical songs from Phir Wohi dil laaya hoon..

    It may be visible only to residents of India and Nepal.

    AAnchal meni saja lena kaliyaan zulfon mein sitaarein bhar lena
    aise hi kabhi jab shyam dhale
    tab yaad hamein bhi kar lena

    ENJOY!!

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 16, 2011 @ 11:15 am | Reply

  1840. Kaveeta ji – feels good to re-visit this wonderful site on this special day. We OPIUMs are lucky and blessed to have in common this remarkable personality, for bring us together. Happy Listening.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 16, 2011 @ 1:49 pm | Reply

  1841. Kaveetaa ji – feels good to re-visit this wonderful site on this special day. We OPIUMs are lucky and blessed to have in common this remarkable personality, for bring us together. Happy Listening.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 16, 2011 @ 1:50 pm | Reply

    • Purinder ji.. so nice to hear from you after what seems like.. aeons.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 16, 2011 @ 1:53 pm | Reply

  1842. Kaveetaa ji .. Thank you for your kind and soft words.

    I recognise that it has been some time since I posted on this site. But, this does not mean that I have been too far away. In fact, I sometimes visit the site,read what others have to say and in absence of anything spectactular to add, eventually keep my counsel to myself.

    It is truly wonderful the way in which you have kept the OPN flame burning.

    Comment by Purinder Ganju — January 17, 2011 @ 5:57 pm | Reply

    • Purinder ji..I guess its not the quantity but quality of the comment that matters. Yours have always been appreciated. Also From my stats I do know that our regulars and newbies are reading here, but just as you so aptly explained that in the absence of anything spectacular to add, silence is the only option. Nevertheless the views keep mounting and his memory lives on and will always do.

      Meanwhile,,A song which I regularly hum , mostly whilst making my morning cuppa.. simply simply wonderful! Oh the melody and romanticism so imbued in this one.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 18, 2011 @ 10:46 am | Reply

  1843. Oh God! So many tributes.Never seen so many at least given to any film personality of the previous generation.Tried to go through many of them. Really fitting! All for a great composer rather one of the greatest in my knowledge.Its very sad that he was not properly honoured with due recognition by the government during his lifetime.
    Must say the King is gone. LONG LIVE HIS RHYTHM.

    Comment by Dr Anjan — January 20, 2011 @ 10:46 pm | Reply

  1844. Dear Opiums,

    Here is the link to download Penaaz Masani’s 8 tracks of “Tu Hi Mera Dil Tu Hi Meri Jaan” that was released in 1986, presented by Late Sunil Dutt Ji alongwith Mr Subash Ghai. Music was composed by none other than “SANGEET SAMRAAT” OPN.

    http://www.musicindiaonline.com/album/51-Urdu_Ghazals/11625-Tu_Hi_Mera_Dil_Tu_Hi_Meri_Jaan/#/album/51-Urdu_Ghazals/11625-Tu_Hi_Mera_Dil_Tu_Hi_Meri_Jaan/

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 26, 2011 @ 9:02 pm | Reply

  1845. Dear Raffians,

    We all Know that KING RAFI never spoke English, but you have to hear this to believe the awesome song sung by the LEGEND.
    Celebrate this song as 26th January Gift……

    Comment by Anand Berry — January 26, 2011 @ 9:21 pm | Reply

    • Hahaha.. Is this really Rafi ? Doesnt sound like him Anand ji. Where do you unearth these rare pieces from? Again.. is this really Rafi?

      Please give some information on the source and occasion he sang this. If it is him then this is truly wonderful:) Thanks

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — February 4, 2011 @ 11:30 am | Reply

  1846. Dear Kaveetaa ji.

    The LEGEND & RARE GEM with MAGICAL VOICE is INDEED one and only KING RAFI. This Non-Filmi Song on the lines of ‘Baharon Phool Barsao Mera Mehboob Aaya Hai’was recorded in 1970s when he visited for LIVE CONCERTS and till day it is very popular in Guyana, Uganda and other South African Lands. He had already done what modern singers try to get away with. While searching for his Live Concerts performed at Royal Albert Hall in London, I got these songs……
    Please share an another RARE GEM of our Punjabi Puttar, an english song on the lines of ‘Hum Kale Hain To Kya Hua Dil Wale Hain’

    Comment by Anand Berry — February 5, 2011 @ 10:11 pm | Reply

    • Oh This is magnificent. Truly a marvellous find. Thank you so much Anand ji. I’m writing whilst listening to it…” she tickles me she teases me”.. Who’d ever think Rafi would ever sing that!! I cant get over it. Thank you again:)

      There was a retrospective and tribute to OPN today on INX channel. Just happened to see it and was soo thrilled that I chanced upon it. Listening to those wonderful melodies one cannot but get enthralled.

      “Pyaar par bas to nahin hai mera lekin phir bhi tu bataa de ke tujhe pyaar karoon ya ne karoon>>Gosh so utterly divine.

      Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — February 8, 2011 @ 7:09 pm | Reply

  1847. Dear Opiums,

    Its a nice chance to download rare 6 OPN songs from Chham Chhama Chham 1953

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/ChhamChhamaChham_1952-ShamshadBegum,KishoreKumar-TarasteHainTadapteHain-PLSantoshi_OPNayyar.mp3" /]

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/ChhamChhamaChham_1952-AshaBhosle-AaPardesiBalmaMereAngana-PLSantoshi_OPNayyar.mp3" /]

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/ChhamChhamaChham_1952-AshaBhosle,KishoreKumar-NainaMilaNainaMilaJaraChupKeSe-PLSantoshi_OPNayyar.mp3" /]

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/ChhamChhamaChham_1952-AshaBhosle,KishoreKumar-LaddooBhiHaiLaLaLaLaPedaBhiHai-PLSantoshi_OPNayyar.mp3" /]

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/ChhamChhamaChham_1952-AshaBhosle,KishoreKumar-JhoomUtheDuniyaWohGeetGayenHum-PLSantoshi_OPNayyar.mp3" /]

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/ChhamChhamaChham_1952-AshaBhosle,KishoreKumar-ChalRiAmiranJhakJhak-PLSantoshi_OPNayyar.mp3" /]

    Comment by Anand Berry — February 25, 2011 @ 12:09 am | Reply

  1848. Dear Opiums,

    I Think, Shatrughan Sinha Should Pride Himself Of Having A Most Melodious Song Of His Entire Carrier Composed By None Other Than Late O.P.Nayyar Saheb.
    Sung By None Other Than Late KING-RAFI along with Dil Raj Kaur from Film Heera Moti. The Best Part Of The Song Is The Last Parah Sung In Punjabi..
    What Else Our Bihari Babu Deserves – Reena Roy + Dil Raj Kaur + KING-RAFI & Above All Sangeet Samrat OPN !!

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 16, 2011 @ 10:17 pm | Reply

  1849. I agree with Mr Anand

    Comment by G N Murty — March 17, 2011 @ 7:08 pm | Reply

  1850. HAPPY HOLI TO ALL!

    Anand ji thanks for the song. It was iI think one of the last of OP ji. Dilraj Kaur was a close copy of Asha Bhosle and perhaps never quite made it as much as she ought to..Maybe if she had come in as an original it would have established her better. But since OP ji gave her a break (?) she had to perform as per his wishes.

    I copy here a letter from an institution. If anyone can help them do oblige

    Thanks

    “I happened to be viewing Sachiniti Featuring an article and responses on O P Nayyar.

    About 15 years or more ago Chandru Atma, brother of C H Atma gave a programme on Doordarshan rendering songs by C H Atma.

    Among these was Preetam Aan Milo. It had an extra stanza following the customary, Raat Andheri…. and Bheegi raat mein….

    I wonder if you could get me this third stanza.

    I will be most obliged.

    Regards

    jvsss ( Jawahar Vidyalaya Senior Secondary School )

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — March 20, 2011 @ 11:41 am | Reply

  1851. Dear Opiums,

    Some People Never Get Oblidged and I Think Asha Bhosle is one of them. O.P.Nayyar lifted her when she was struggling for an Identity……
    Rest is the History. Just Hear this Melodious Composition, that any singer would die to get…….

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 25, 2011 @ 10:58 pm | Reply

  1852. Dear Opiums,

    Mahendra Kapoor giving his Best with Asha Bhosle….in a Most MELODIOUS Bhangra Song composed By RHYTHM KING O.P.Nayyar for MOHABBAT ZINDAGI HAI (1966)
    Swaad aa gaya ji ? … Boht Wahdiya…..

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 28, 2011 @ 7:49 pm | Reply

  1853. Dear Kaveetaa Ji,

    Wishing You A Very Very HAPPY BIRTHDAY
    Lovely to see a happy face on a superb accordionist
    Presenting The Famous Music of RAJ KAPOOR’s Films.
    Original “Ion Ivanovichi’s” <> Absolutely beautiful.

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 4, 2011 @ 5:31 pm | Reply

  1854. Dear Opiums,

    Hear LATA MANGESHKAR sing a line of OPN’s “UDE JAB JAB ZULPHEN TERI” (from Naya Daur)

    [audio src="http://indianscreen.com/mp3/Previous2/lata___OP.mp3" /]

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 9, 2011 @ 9:41 pm | Reply

  1855. O.P.Nayyar was a great music director they gave us very melodious songs thank you

    Comment by vipin diwan — May 28, 2011 @ 1:13 pm | Reply

  1856. Dear Opiums,

    Here Is Your Chance To Download Un-Released 8 Songs Of “Muqaddar Ki Baat” Composed By Sri O.P.Nayyar.

    http://www.in.com/music/muqaddar-ki-baat/songs-41581.html

    Comment by Anand Berry — June 9, 2011 @ 11:08 pm | Reply

  1857. This morning the SLBC short broadcast aired in “Ek hi film ke geet” and to my delight the film was Qaidi whose songs I had not heard for ages. I could not get good reception so the recording was not good.
    For years I am waiting to access all songs from Qaidi and Ustad;would some friend point me to a site from where I could download these?Or if any one of you has these I shall be most thankful if the mp3s could be sent to me-my e mail is pramodacharya153@hotmail.com.Thanks and best wishes to all.

    Comment by pramod acharya — July 6, 2011 @ 3:45 pm | Reply

  1858. Today is a sad day for all O P Nayyar fans as one of the best suited hero for all O P Nayyar songs, Shammi Kapoor ji is no more. May his soul rest in peace.

    Comment by G N Murty, Rajahmundry, ,AP — August 14, 2011 @ 9:40 pm | Reply

  1859. Evergreen Dev Ananad saab is no more. May his soul rest in peace. According to me, what O P Nayyar ji is for music, Dev Saab is for acting. Both of them having individual styles, which can not be copied easily by any one. Both are EVERGREEN.

    Comment by G N Murty — December 5, 2011 @ 8:48 pm | Reply

  1860. Happy new year to all OP Nayyar ji’s fans…

    Comment by G N Murty — January 1, 2012 @ 5:23 pm | Reply

  1861. Wishing you a Great yeah ahead Murthy ji and all OP fans. Years may elapse but one thing is certain that the magic of Ops melodies will never wane.

    One of my favorites: will make a lovely start to the year.

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — January 1, 2012 @ 5:45 pm | Reply

  1862. Another Memorable Song Of KING RAFI & Asha With Sangeet Samrat O.P.Nayyar Ji…

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 10, 2012 @ 9:42 pm | Reply

  1863. Remembering JOY MUKHERJEE
    Another Memorable Song Of KING RAFI & Asha With Sangeet Samrat O.P.Nayyar Ji…

    Comment by Anand Berry — March 10, 2012 @ 9:48 pm | Reply

  1864. Dear Kaveeta Ji,

    Wishing You A Very Very Happy Birthday…….
    Presenting A Very Beautiful Song By Dilraj Kaur Composed By Sur-Badshah O.P.Nayyar Saheb…

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 4, 2012 @ 11:31 pm | Reply

  1865. Thank you so much Anand ji..Much appreciated. You are ever so kind.. I love this song and also the ones you posted above. Stay blessed!

    Comment by Kaveetaa Kaul — April 5, 2012 @ 7:57 am | Reply

  1866. I can simply write this much. HE IS GREATEST AND TALLEST OF ALL HIS CONTEMPORARIES. Neither any music director of his stature has been born nor will be. Every composition is a gem. The only Raj Kapoor-OP Nayyar film “DO USTAD”, had such beautiful and romantic duets that I consider it far better than “HOWRA BRIDGE”, musically. Especially his genius in giving music to two very beautiful songs-(1) Aaya, tum pe dil aaya, and with similar wordings,(2) Hum pe dil aaya to bolo kya karoge? His music can be listened to a thousand times and even then one is not tired of listening to him. Salute to OPN

    Comment by Soorya Kant Mandaldutt Ojha — May 17, 2012 @ 9:30 pm | Reply

  1867. i fully agree with Shri Ojha, regards, G N Murty, Rajahmundry

    Comment by G N Murty — June 20, 2012 @ 8:56 am | Reply

  1868. Jiyer singing Like Rafi Yeh Duniya Usika , tribute to Rafi and OPN

    Excellent rendering of this masterpiece by J Iyer

    Comment by gajanan — July 16, 2012 @ 12:09 pm | Reply

  1869. True Rafiana Andaz . Iyerji aap kaha chupp the . Kya baat hai!!! OPN and Rafi must be very happy up listening. You must get a break in films.

    Comment by Dilkhush — July 16, 2012 @ 4:45 pm | Reply

  1870. Superb J Iyer , class your are. Keep it up. Sing all OPN/ Rafi songs. God bless you.

    Comment by suresh — July 17, 2012 @ 12:41 pm | Reply

  1871. Jyotiraman Iyer Saheb……………..KHUSH KITA……!!

    Comment by Anand Berry — September 6, 2012 @ 1:26 pm | Reply

  1872. Dear Opiums,
    Just To Inform You….Late OPN’s Grand-Daughter “Ms Niharica Raizada” a Doctor by profession,a very ambitious model,actor, singer, dancer and performing artist, dealing with the entertainment industry in London and New York,currently resides in Mumbai.She’s elegant,She’s enchanting,She’s exotic.Her Credetials –

    Miss India Worldwide 2010
    MTV the seven
    Sony Camera Commercial
    Sahara Indian TV anchor
    Elizabeth II (Shekar Kapur)
    Current Guru for Singing: Kavita Krishnamurthy

    She is the granddaughter of Late Omkar Prasad Nayyar, from whom she inherited her musical talent.

    Niharica Raizada. She is an ex Miss India Worldwide winner as well as an ex Miss India UK in the past. She is also an qualified doctor (in stem cell research no less!) and trained dancer in Bharatnatyam and ballet. She also happens to be the grand daughter of legendary music composer from Bollywood, O.P.Nayyar. Well, since her grandfather still makes us hum his tunes from time to time, it seems to us that she will make dance to her numbers in the immediate future!

    Niharica Raizada is doing an item number in Manoj Michigan’s new film ‘Damadol’ (his last film ‘Hello Kolkata’ was made in 2008) is a situational comedy.

    Comment by Anand Berry — September 6, 2012 @ 2:26 pm | Reply

  1873. great news mr anand

    Comment by G N Murty — October 3, 2012 @ 10:16 pm | Reply

  1874. For long now I am unable to access the Asha Bhonsle song ” Kuchh To aisi Baat kar balam, Dil bahal jaye mera …”. Can somebody tell me which film it is from and possibly a link to access and download it? Pramod Acharya

    Comment by Pramod Acharya — January 13, 2013 @ 7:38 pm | Reply

  1875. I am visiting this blog after a long time and I am happy to note that it continues to attract the attention of Hindi film music lovers. I have just come across an article in The Hindu dated Dec 07, 2012. This article, captioned “Behind the Voice” contains comments by Zia Us Salam on “MOHAMMED RAFI: My Abba — A Memoir” by Mohd. Rafi’s daughter-in-law Yasmin Khalid Rafi.

    It says, “Yasmin Khalid Rafi’s Mohammed Rafi: My Abba — A Memoir, translated by Rupa Srikumar and A.K. Srikumar deserves credit for treading the lesser known path. Yasmin, daughter-in-law of Rafi was privy to a lot of personal moments with the legend, having spent close to eight years under the same roof with him in Mumbai. She makes good use of the proximity to give us an insightful account of Rafi’s unique bond with music director O.P. Nayyar. Now, Nayyar did not really get his due in the industry. Even when people tapped their fingers on their tables and dashboards while listening to his songs, the talk almost inevitably veered to his association with Asha Bhonsle, and how he preferred Asha over Lata.

    “Yasmin though tells us about his chemistry with Rafi and states, “O.P. Nayyar was the only one in the entire industry with whom Rafi Saheb was really friendly. They both hailed from Lahore and enjoyed each other’s company very much, so much so that their conversation even tended to be laced with invectives.”

    “For all those who have grown up as fans of Rafi — as did Yasmin — this could be a bit of an eye opener to the legend’s very human side. Not as well documented as Asha’s rapport with Nayyar, but Rafi sang almost all the songs of Nayyar for around 27 years! Only in a stray case here or there, did others, including Mukesh and Kishore Kumar, get a chance to sing under the baton of Nayyar.”

    Those interested in reading the article may visit the URL:-

    http://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/behind-the-voice/article4174199.ece

    Comment by Macheendran Keloth — February 15, 2013 @ 8:14 pm | Reply

  1876. Dear Mr Pramod Acharya, *1875

    The Song You Are Searching Is From Qaidi 1957 Sung By Asha Lyricist – Jan Nissar Akhtar Composed By OPN Ji….

    kuch to aisi baat kar jalim
    dil bahal jaye mera balam
    aaj mere paas hai tu
    aaj kaisa gham
    kuch to aisi baat kar jalim
    dil bahal jaye mera balam

    ye hawaye ye bahare ye samma
    ched bhi de koi rangeen dastan
    kal na jane tu kaha ho mai kaha
    kal na jane tu kaha ho mai kaha
    kuch to aisi baat kar jalim
    dil bahal jaye mera balam
    aaj mere paas hai tu
    aaj kaisa gham
    kuch to aisi baat kar jalim
    dil bahal jaye mera balam

    kuch ada kuch najar se tham le
    chupke chupke haye mera naam le
    mai uthu to mera daman tham le
    mai uthu to mera daman tham le


    kuch to aisi baat kar jalim
    dil bahal jaye mera balam
    aaj mere paas hai tu
    aaj kaisa gham
    kuch to aisi baat kar jalim
    dil bahal jaye mera balam

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 4, 2013 @ 11:30 pm | Reply

  1877. Dear Kaveeta Ji,

    May You Live THOUSAND YEARS Of Life..
    And Each Year Contain FIFTY THOUSAND Days !!

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 4, 2013 @ 11:36 pm | Reply

    • Dear Mr Anand Berry * 1877. Many thanks for the song and the full lyrics- Isn’t it a great thing that though we have never met and may never do so , O P s great music has connected us. In this age when noise passes for music people of our ilk can fall back on the evergreen and superb compositions of an era that was truly golden. Please accept my apologies for coming up after months on this forum and to thank you. Pramod Acharya

      Comment by Pramod Acharya — August 7, 2013 @ 7:45 pm | Reply

  1878. GREAT GREAT SHAMSHAD BEGUM born in Amritsar. She was conferred the Padma Bhushan in 2009.

    “She was an artist of extraordinary talent and abilities, and the songs she has left behind in her long career, which she started with AIR in 1947, will continue to enthral music lovers.”

    She Still RULES & Inspires Young Generations…An Awesome Combo Of OPN >> SHAMSHAD >> RAFI

    Comment by Anand Berry — April 25, 2013 @ 11:49 am | Reply

  1879. Sad how OP chose those lines from the song. It was to reflect what his life was at around that time. He was all alone in the end no family support….no saya.
    OP Nayyar singing with Sonu Nigam

    Comment by Anand Berry — October 6, 2013 @ 8:41 pm | Reply

  1880. I know that all music lovers get the “earworm”. when a snatch of music keeps playing repeatedly in the mind; until the full version is not actually heard the earworm does not recede. For very long I am hearing the ends of an Asha Bhonsle song from the 1960s or earlier. The end lyrics are ” … Yeh pyaar ki kahani, yeh pyaar ki kahani “, If anyone can remember the film of this rarely-heard or aired song please let me know.

    Comment by Pramod Acharya — November 19, 2013 @ 8:35 am | Reply

  1881. If some one wants expert view about running a blog after that
    i recommend him/her to go to see this blog, Keep up the nice job.

    Comment by hostnetindia — August 21, 2014 @ 4:19 pm | Reply

  1882. Dear Opiums,
    Something to interest all of you –
    Loved Fifi from Bombay Velvet? Here are ten gems from the original song composer OP Nayyar
    http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/loved-fifi-from-bombay-velvet-here-are-ten-gems-from-the-original-song-composer-op-nayyar-2243696.html

    Comment by Anand Berry — May 19, 2015 @ 3:19 am | Reply

  1883. Dear Opiums,
    Something to interest all of you –
    Classic Legends – O.P. Nayyar | Full Episode | Javed Akhtar

    Comment by Anand Berry — February 8, 2016 @ 7:41 pm | Reply

  1884. Dear Opiums,
    Something to interest all of you –
    Typical OP tune, presented by Ravi !
    Honth Gulaabi Gaal Katore, Haay Main Sadake Jaavaan
    Ghar Sansar (1958)

    Comment by Anand Berry — February 8, 2016 @ 9:33 pm | Reply


RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI

Leave a reply to Krishna Baru Cancel reply

Blog at WordPress.com.